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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:03:47 AM EDT
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why not just use an AR?
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:04:53 AM EDT
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The ruger scout?
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:05:04 AM EDT
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why not just use an AR? Whats wrong with his question? |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:05:48 AM EDT
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why not just use an AR? Whats wrong with his question? What's wrong with mine? |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:06:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:07:08 AM EDT
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The ruger scout? This. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:13:53 AM EDT
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I think it was 1989 guns and ammo. Had a big article on OMG scout rifles. I read it. Thought * wtf is the point of that. Tossed the magazine in the garbage lol
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:16:01 AM EDT
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The Savage Scout rifle looks pretty nice.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:24:55 AM EDT
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M1 Garand
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:28:27 AM EDT
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why not just use an AR? Whats wrong with his question? What's wrong with mine? While Ive used a 556 to cull a lot of deer it's not my first choice in a hunting round. 6.8 or a .300 would be better but if Im just loafing around the woods or seriously hunting I prefer more traditional rifles. Like my 16" .45 colt 92 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:36:12 AM EDT
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I always thought the 527 looked neat. I wonder if anyone makes a durable rear peep sight for them? |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:36:19 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, the OP put this question in GD rather than a technical forum.
Medicfrost did ask a valid question and that topic is a whole subforum on Scout Rifle.org. An AR15 with one of Wolf Ammo's 6.5 Grendel uppers would be very close to what the late great Saint Colonel Jeff Cooper discussed in the back pages of Guns & Ammo magazine back in the early 1970's during the times of the African bush wars. I'm planning on getting one of the $400 6.5 Grendel uppers for such a build. * I'll defer giving any specific firearm recommendation since your stated needs are rather vague. My recommendation is to goto that scout rifle forum and research your interest in depth. They're nice enough folk but are not tolerant of any GDish shenanigans(they like their bolt actions and 1911's, so you better color inside the lines there). I registered there since I wanted help with converting a bubbaized Swedish M96 into what they call a PScout, which stands for Pseudo-Scout. They've been friendly and helpful thus far to me. Good luck in your quest, those things can get almost as expensive as AR15's.
HTH, wganz * Linkage to story here, goto 4th paragraph about half way down the page. Besides the Type 91 upper, Wolf is making a 6.5 Grendel upper and it will retail for $400. ETA: corrrected misspelllings and format. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:37:21 AM EDT
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M60 .. comes with iron sights and in 7.62
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:44:51 AM EDT
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Ruger Scout or Savage Hog Hunter.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:45:40 AM EDT
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Buuba'd Ishapore 2A
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:45:52 AM EDT
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Can you get an MVP with irons on it?
My friend had one without them in .308, nice shooting gun. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:52:59 AM EDT
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Remington 7
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Posted: 10/16/2016 9:59:32 AM EDT
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Be a man. Rifle, No. 5 Mk I i.e. the Jungle Carbine.
You have another shoulder to use after you get done shooting it. Plus .303 is readily available |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:00:41 AM EDT
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The CZ is a good choice. Model 7 laminate would work nicely.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:02:20 AM EDT
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While Ive used a 556 to cull a lot of deer it's not my first choice in a hunting round. 6.8 or a .300 would be better but if Im just loafing around the woods or seriously hunting I prefer more traditional rifles. Like my 16" .45 colt 92 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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why not just use an AR? Whats wrong with his question? What's wrong with mine? While Ive used a 556 to cull a lot of deer it's not my first choice in a hunting round. 6.8 or a .300 would be better but if Im just loafing around the woods or seriously hunting I prefer more traditional rifles. Like my 16" .45 colt 92 I'm talking about an AR in .308. Get one with a 14.5" barrel and perm muzzle device, and you have higher capacity and faster follow-up shots than you will with a bolt action. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:06:52 AM EDT
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I'm talking about an AR in .308. Get one with a 14.5" barrel and perm muzzle device, and you have higher capacity and faster follow-up shots than you will with a bolt action. True, But it's also going to be quite a bit heavier and more expensive. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:14:19 AM EDT
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True, But it's also going to be quite a bit heavier and more expensive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm talking about an AR in .308. Get one with a 14.5" barrel and perm muzzle device, and you have higher capacity and faster follow-up shots than you will with a bolt action. True, But it's also going to be quite a bit heavier and more expensive. And no where near as handy How much do 14.5" ar10s weigh? |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:17:58 AM EDT
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And no where near as handy How much do 14.5" ar10s weigh? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm talking about an AR in .308. Get one with a 14.5" barrel and perm muzzle device, and you have higher capacity and faster follow-up shots than you will with a bolt action. True, But it's also going to be quite a bit heavier and more expensive. And no where near as handy How much do 14.5" ar10s weigh? About a pound more than a traditional Scout rifle. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:18:18 AM EDT
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The Savage Scout rifle looks pretty nice. Shot one the other day and was impressed. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:19:36 AM EDT
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My vote is an ares scr with a 6.8spc or 6.5g upper. You get the best of both worlds - bolt gun ergonomics, and the ar15s semi auto and large ammo capacity. Just sucks they don't make a .308 version
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:19:53 AM EDT
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Polymer stocked Ruger Scout was my answer when I went through this. Very happy with that decision.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:20:51 AM EDT
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My vote is an ares scr with a 6.8spc or 6.5g upper. You get the best of both worlds - bolt gun ergonomics, and the ar15s semi auto and large ammo capacity. Just sucks they don't make a .308 version I was just thinking the same thing. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:24:30 AM EDT
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Be a man. Rifle, No. 5 Mk I i.e. the Jungle Carbine. You have another shoulder to use after you get done shooting it. Plus .303 is readily available Only if you're a sissy...... |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:26:47 AM EDT
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Find yourself a Mosin M44 carbine.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:28:35 AM EDT
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Buuba'd Ishapore 2A Did someone say Bubba'd Ishapore? That's exactly what I did and made my own scout rifle. 
Mit und suppressor. ja! 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:39:00 AM EDT
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My vote is an ares scr with a 6.8spc or 6.5g upper. You get the best of both worlds - bolt gun ergonomics, and the ar15s semi auto and large ammo capacity. Just sucks they don't make a .308 version Wonder if the Ares will be legal post Hillary. 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:40:40 AM EDT
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Wonder if the Ares will be legal post Hillary.
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My vote is an ares scr with a 6.8spc or 6.5g upper. You get the best of both worlds - bolt gun ergonomics, and the ar15s semi auto and large ammo capacity. Just sucks they don't make a .308 version Wonder if the Ares will be legal post Hillary.
No, it will not be. nothing will be. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:43:19 AM EDT
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Can you get an MVP with irons on it? My friend had one without them in .308, nice shooting gun. Yes and they make a scout version as well, both in 5.56 or .308. I happened to be looking at their website today and was wondering what folks thought of them and their odd bolt. From some reading they seem to be pretty accurate and the 5.56 seem to be reliable while the .308 has had some hiccups for some folks. I've never seen one, much less handled or shot one, though. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:46:48 AM EDT
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Yes and they make a scout version as well, both in 5.56 or .308. I happened to be looking at their website today and was wondering what folks thought of them and their odd bolt. From some reading they seem to be pretty accurate and the 5.56 seem to be reliable while the .308 has had some hiccups for some folks. I've never seen one, much less handled or shot one, though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you get an MVP with irons on it? My friend had one without them in .308, nice shooting gun. Yes and they make a scout version as well, both in 5.56 or .308. I happened to be looking at their website today and was wondering what folks thought of them and their odd bolt. From some reading they seem to be pretty accurate and the 5.56 seem to be reliable while the .308 has had some hiccups for some folks. I've never seen one, much less handled or shot one, though. My buddy has one of each. They are pretty nice. A lot lighter than the Ruger Scout rifle which, in my opinion I would not want to carry around for very long. That thing is a tank for being a bolt gun. seems heavier than a Garand or M1A. I know the Garand IS heavier, but the scout just "seems" to feel heavier. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:50:34 AM EDT
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None semi-auto MAS 36
Semi Auto M1 Tanker Model |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:52:31 AM EDT
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Yes and they make a scout version as well, both in 5.56 or .308. I happened to be looking at their website today and was wondering what folks thought of them and their odd bolt. From some reading they seem to be pretty accurate and the 5.56 seem to be reliable while the .308 has had some hiccups for some folks. I've never seen one, much less handled or shot one, though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you get an MVP with irons on it? My friend had one without them in .308, nice shooting gun. Yes and they make a scout version as well, both in 5.56 or .308. I happened to be looking at their website today and was wondering what folks thought of them and their odd bolt. From some reading they seem to be pretty accurate and the 5.56 seem to be reliable while the .308 has had some hiccups for some folks. I've never seen one, much less handled or shot one, though. I'm going to pick one up next week in .223. Not sure which model yet. The scout or the patrol both look good. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 10:54:57 AM EDT
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The savage scout 11 is a nice accurate gun
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Posted: 10/16/2016 11:00:58 AM EDT
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How about 300 B.O.
14.5" Barrel, Pinned Spikes Comp, Chrome Bolt, Fortis Hammer CH, CZ Scorpion Iron Sights, Lightweight/slim Rail, QD Sling Swivels Freshly built with MBUS 
Now with correct height CZ sights 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 11:01:42 AM EDT
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The Savage Scout rifle looks pretty nice. Crappy aluminum sights ruin that rifle IMHO. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 11:10:21 AM EDT
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Be a man. Rifle, No. 5 Mk I i.e. the Jungle Carbine. You have another shoulder to use after you get done shooting it. Plus .303 is readily available Or a Spanish FR-8. Steyr Scout isn't bad, either, although the irons are backup sights and I think they make them out of plastic now rather than "iron". |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 11:12:18 AM EDT
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Be a man. Rifle, No. 5 Mk I i.e. the Jungle Carbine. You have another shoulder to use after you get done shooting it. Plus .303 is readily available Or a Spanish FR-8. I really wish I would have bought an FR-8 when they were fairly common. 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 11:13:51 AM EDT
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I really wish I would have bought an FR-8 when they were fairly common. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Be a man. Rifle, No. 5 Mk I i.e. the Jungle Carbine. You have another shoulder to use after you get done shooting it. Plus .303 is readily available Or a Spanish FR-8. I really wish I would have bought an FR-8 when they were fairly common. I see several for sale every month online. There's always at least a couple on Gunbroker. Prices aren't as good as they used to be, but that's true for most milsurps. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 11:28:42 AM EDT
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True, But it's also going to be quite a bit heavier and more expensive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm talking about an AR in .308. Get one with a 14.5" barrel and perm muzzle device, and you have higher capacity and faster follow-up shots than you will with a bolt action.
poster please! 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 12:42:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My buddy has one of each. They are pretty nice. A lot lighter than the Ruger Scout rifle which, in my opinion I would not want to carry around for very long. That thing is a tank for being a bolt gun. seems heavier than a Garand or M1A. I know the Garand IS heavier, but the scout just "seems" to feel heavier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can you get an MVP with irons on it? My friend had one without them in .308, nice shooting gun. Yes and they make a scout version as well, both in 5.56 or .308. I happened to be looking at their website today and was wondering what folks thought of them and their odd bolt. From some reading they seem to be pretty accurate and the 5.56 seem to be reliable while the .308 has had some hiccups for some folks. I've never seen one, much less handled or shot one, though. My buddy has one of each. They are pretty nice. A lot lighter than the Ruger Scout rifle which, in my opinion I would not want to carry around for very long. That thing is a tank for being a bolt gun. seems heavier than a Garand or M1A. I know the Garand IS heavier, but the scout just "seems" to feel heavier. The laminate stock adds a lot of weight to the Ruger. The Hogue version is a half pound lighter than the MVP. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 12:45:34 PM EDT
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The laminate stock adds a lot of weight to the Ruger. The Hogue version is a half pound lighter than the MVP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you get an MVP with irons on it? My friend had one without them in .308, nice shooting gun. Yes and they make a scout version as well, both in 5.56 or .308. I happened to be looking at their website today and was wondering what folks thought of them and their odd bolt. From some reading they seem to be pretty accurate and the 5.56 seem to be reliable while the .308 has had some hiccups for some folks. I've never seen one, much less handled or shot one, though. My buddy has one of each. They are pretty nice. A lot lighter than the Ruger Scout rifle which, in my opinion I would not want to carry around for very long. That thing is a tank for being a bolt gun. seems heavier than a Garand or M1A. I know the Garand IS heavier, but the scout just "seems" to feel heavier. The laminate stock adds a lot of weight to the Ruger. The Hogue version is a half pound lighter than the MVP. Now that is something to look into then. 
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Posted: 10/16/2016 1:00:08 PM EDT
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I'd suggest doing some reading on Scoutrifle.org, as suggested above.
My personal suggestion would be a stainless, polymer-stocked Ruger Gunsite Scout rifle. If you are into using iron sights, I strongly suggest buying the rear sight accessory pieces that XS Sights sells. One of them is a baseplate for the Ruger's rear sight, and the other is an internally threaded rear sight aperture. Used alone, it makes a good Ghost sight. When commonly available rear apertures are screwed into it, the apertures allow much greater precision at longer ranges, given good light. Right up your alley, IMHO. You might consider painting the relatively bright metal with some sort of duller finish. I have had good experience with Brownell's AlumaHyde II, but as with any refinishing, the simple steps required in preparation are essential. For the most part, this means removing the rifle from the stock, masking off any parts not to be painted, and most importantly, [I]thoroughly de-greasing the surfaces to be painted. See this thread on SRO:http://www.scoutrifle.org/index.php?topic=6313.0. It gives links to all the parts needed. Add a Langlois Rhodesian sling + appropriate sling swivels, and you're all done, except buying spare mags. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 1:17:56 PM EDT
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For me, nothing beats a Styer.
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Posted: 10/16/2016 1:31:50 PM EDT
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I bought into the scout concept when I was just getting interested in guns about 5 years ago. I decided to modify a Mosin to make a pseudo scout. I bought one of those BrassStacker scope mounts, bought a long eye relief scope, and all of a sudden I had a 350 dollar, 10 pound rifle that balances horribly, and has sat in my gun case for 4.5 years. The scout rifle doesn't really do anything all that well. I would advise you to buy a 308 AR with a free float rail, and mount an aimpoint. The aimpoint does everything a scout scope does, and does it better.
Whatever you do, do not buy one of those stupid factory Scout rifles. Overpriced and way overhyped. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 1:50:20 PM EDT
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Springfield Armory M1A Scout Squad rifle.
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