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Posted: 8/30/2016 12:01:44 AM EDT
Resident Miffed Over $50 Fine for Swimming With Wife at New Jersey Condominium Complex

A 69-year-old former postal worker and his wife are among the non-Jewish residents of a New Jersey condominium complex frustrated by rules that limit mixed-sex swimming to two hours per day Sunday through Friday.
Jewish law prohibits men and women from bathing together, and the rules at A Country Place were implemented to accommodate the majority of Orthodox Jewish homeowners at the 376-unit Lakewood adult community, according to The Asbury Park Press. Anyone who violates the rules on mixed-sex swims faces a $50 fine, which was what Steve Lusardi encountered when he went for a swim with his wife earlier this summer, the newspaper said.

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“I’ve been told, ‘This is a Jewish community. Get used to it,’” Lusardi said.

More at:
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Jewish-Swimming-Pool-Gender-Segregated-Hours-Lakewood-New-Jersey-391600861.html


Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:03:28 AM EDT
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Do all religions have dumb ass rules like this?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:03:44 AM EDT
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My first thought is "fuck off, I'm not Jewish".

OTOH, their condos, their rules?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:03:48 AM EDT
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Just what the Hell was he expecting when he bought into a condo?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:03:59 AM EDT
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Shouldn't have signed that HOA agreement I guess, huh?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:04:45 AM EDT
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Do they have a rule about eating bacon in the pool?

Because I would suddenly get a burning desire to eat a shitload of bacon in the pool.

Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:05:06 AM EDT
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So are the social justice warriors that demand people bake gay cakes going to swoop in on this one?




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Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:07:30 AM EDT
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Break the rules - pay the established fine.  Don't like the rules?  Don't live there.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:07:43 AM EDT
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If they each swim all day, none of the Orthodox Jews can swim at all. Dumb rule, so they probably should have an Orthodox Jew only condos, but I suppose those aren't allowed by law either. And swimming is bathing? Why do they make me wash off before going into the pool and why do I shower when I'm finished?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:08:52 AM EDT
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most religions have dumb rules
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:11:16 AM EDT
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While I agree, I'm guessing if this was Sharia-based rather than Jewish law-based, the average opinion here would be quite different.

And yeah, dumb rule.  But oh well.    I'm still miffed that we can't buy beer on sunday before noon.   God this shit hangs on centuries after anyone gives a shit.
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YES!! A new one.
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I like your style
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:21:41 AM EDT
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Community rules are made by committee, and the Jews stacked it.









Find a new condo.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:22:54 AM EDT
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Dude lives in a Jewish condo.

The same sorta dork, has a hissy fit because McDonalds isn't Vegan.

Then again, this guy is probably just pissed, because he can't eyeball all that prime 70+Yr old poon for more than 2 hours.

Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:23:02 AM EDT
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That is seriously a Jewish rule?

lol
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:23:12 AM EDT
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If you're an observant Jew you obey the law you choose to follow.

Expecting others to follow that law even when they don't share your faith is absurd.

Punishing them for not following your religious rules that they don't believe in is religion law taking over.

Not any different from the Sharia law pushers.

May as well punish them for pushing an elevator button on the sabbath.

You can impose whatever limits you like on yourself based on your religious beliefs.  Don't expect everyone else to follow those particular limits.


Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:24:21 AM EDT
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Just what the Hell was he expecting when he bought into a condo?
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and this

Shouldn't have signed that HOA agreement I guess, huh?
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<Removed.  Rule one.  --tbk1>
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:25:20 AM EDT
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If they changed the rules on him...I would be pissed too.
If he was told in the docs before he moved in, then tough shit.
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While I agree, I'm guessing if this was Sharia-based rather than Jewish law-based, the average opinion here would be quite different.

And yeah, dumb rule.  But oh well.    I'm still miffed that we can't buy beer on sunday before noon.   God this shit hangs on centuries after anyone gives a shit.
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While I agree, I'm guessing if this was Sharia-based rather than Jewish law-based, the average opinion here would be quite different.

And yeah, dumb rule.  But oh well.    I'm still miffed that we can't buy beer on sunday before noon.   God this shit hangs on centuries after anyone gives a shit.



Oh yeah, if this was a Sharia based thing there would be massive amounts of butthurt.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:29:03 AM EDT
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Read Leviticus some time.  They've got some doozies.
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Probably a community grill...

Cook bacon on it.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:33:56 AM EDT
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If you're an observant Jew you obey the law you choose to follow.

Expecting others to follow that law even when they don't share your faith is absurd.

Punishing them for not following your religious rules that they don't believe in is religion law taking over.

Not any different from the Sharia law pushers.

May as well punish them for pushing an elevator button on the sabbath.

You can impose whatever limits you like on yourself based on your religious beliefs.  Don't expect everyone else to follow those particular limits.


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Agreed, but the Orthodox Jews should be allowed to have their own Jew condos where they can practice.
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Oh yeah, if this was a Sharia based thing there would be massive amounts of butthurt.
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While I agree, I'm guessing if this was Sharia-based rather than Jewish law-based, the average opinion here would be quite different.

And yeah, dumb rule.  But oh well.    I'm still miffed that we can't buy beer on sunday before noon.   God this shit hangs on centuries after anyone gives a shit.



Oh yeah, if this was a Sharia based thing there would be massive amounts of butthurt.


The Muslims can go build their own Islam condos for all I can. The gays can also build their own naked gay sex condos for all I can. I won't buy a condo in any of these scenarios. I already bought my house in the massive, white, gun owner, Christian condo known as all of East TN. If they want to live among their own kind and follow their silly rules, good for them. I assume they aren't allowed to say "Orthodox Jews only", so that's where the problem comes in.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:41:40 AM EDT
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And some shrimp cocktail. Just fling the tails in the pool.
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I dunno but the Aussies had a pool at the Al Faw Palace in Baghdad and they had a similar rule:  Aussie females could not be alone at night in the pool with non-Aussie men.

Which we interpreted to mean at least two couples minimum.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 2:11:37 AM EDT
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Time to move.
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Bring a fifth of bourbon into Utah in from Colorado and see what the Sharia Police do to you.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 2:59:44 AM EDT
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Time to dump a case of Dawn into the pool. Either that or a pan full of bacon grease. If I can't use the pool nobody will.
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While I agree, I'm guessing if this was Sharia-based rather than Jewish law-based, the average opinion here would be quite different.

And yeah, dumb rule.  But oh well.    I'm still miffed that we can't buy beer on sunday before noon.   God this shit hangs on centuries after anyone gives a shit.
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While I agree, I'm guessing if this was Sharia-based rather than Jewish law-based, the average opinion here would be quite different.

And yeah, dumb rule.  But oh well.    I'm still miffed that we can't buy beer on sunday before noon.   God this shit hangs on centuries after anyone gives a shit.


Ooooh yeah.  This would be a much different thread.


Also, the beth din is real.  REAL I TELL YOU!
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 3:11:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/30/2016 3:13:48 AM EDT
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Wait until they find out he hasn't been poking her through a hole in a sheet.

I imagine the fines for that are massive.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 3:24:04 AM EDT
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Haha, imagine the shit storm if some christians got together and called it Christian community and then imposed some christian rules on a Jew.

Holy shit we would never hear the end of that.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 3:24:28 AM EDT
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If you're an observant Jew you obey the law you choose to follow.

Expecting others to follow that law even when they don't share your faith is absurd.

Punishing them for not following your religious rules that they don't believe in is religion law taking over.

Not any different from the Sharia law pushers.

May as well punish them for pushing an elevator button on the sabbath.

You can impose whatever limits you like on yourself based on your religious beliefs.  Don't expect everyone else to follow those particular limits.


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About what I'm figuring.

And why the hell does anyone care about mixed swimming? It's not bathing, it's a recreational exercise, no different than jogging, yoga or lifting.

Is it $50 per time they're reported as being in the pool during "non-mixed" hours, or is it a weekly/monthly/yearly fee?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 3:28:05 AM EDT
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I dunno but the Aussies had a pool at the Al Faw Palace in Baghdad and they had a similar rule:  Aussie females could not be alone at night in the pool with non-Aussie men.

Which we interpreted to mean at least two couples minimum.
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I dunno but the Aussies had a pool at the Al Faw Palace in Baghdad and they had a similar rule:  Aussie females could not be alone at night in the pool with non-Aussie men.

Which we interpreted to mean at least two couples minimum.


In Baghdad?

Yeah, that's because the men over there are rape-happy, goat-fucking bastards. They've been groping and raping women in Western countries ever since they started letting the Syrian "refugees" immigrate into Europe. Savages.
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You mean like blue laws?
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You mean like blue laws?
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You mean like blue laws?



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This. The time to fuss about the rules is BEFORE you agree to them.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 4:45:41 AM EDT
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You sinned. Give us money.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 7:30:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/30/2016 7:41:35 AM EDT
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Pay the fine in ass pennies.
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Lakewood. I knew it would be Lakewood or Toms River when i clicked on the link.

Kharn

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Orthodox Jews are blockbusting in Lakewood and Toms River like crazy. Either you take their low offer or your neighbor will, and then the next offer will be even lower.

Kharn

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Link Posted: 8/30/2016 7:52:03 AM EDT
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The proper response to the $50 fine duty.


http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91493
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The proper response to the $50 fine.


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Was going to post this.
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ABSOLUTELY
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 8:19:57 AM EDT
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Idk....I quit that shit years ago....
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This. The time to fuss about the rules is BEFORE you agree to them.
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Shouldn't have signed that HOA agreement I guess, huh?

This. The time to fuss about the rules is BEFORE you agree to them.



Ayup.  If you signed the Covenant, you're bound by it. To you, it's a stupid rule. To someone else, it's the difference between eternal salvation and eternal damnation, and that's not something to be taken lightly. If the rule says, "No mixed bathing between such-and-such hours", why should you be allowed to keep everyone who agrees with the rule from bathing when they want to?
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