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Posted: 8/27/2016 9:25:28 AM EDT
I'm at work yesterday in my office and the receptionist passes a call to me. It's the NRA with a message from Wayne for me. Well, a firm paid by them. I'm a life member already. I ask how he got my office number and he says NRA gave it to him. I login and my contact info is my home number. I call member services and ask how they have my office number and they got nothing. They finally pass me to headquarters and they blacklist my work number which they are not supposed to have with the explanation their marketing team has gone out and data mined their membership list for alternative numbers.
I go out of my office and the whole workplace is "why is NRA calling you?" Fortunately, I work in a closely held business and I am in an executive position. The owner has me help him buy his first pistol last year. However, none of the employees knew any of our personal business and I'm sure have no idea what is in my briefcase with full support of owner. I bet they have a good guess now. I can't believe our own allied organization is this irresponsible. The consequences for some could be disastrous. UPDATE: Modern-Musket contacted me and he really went to work on this issue and has dug deeper and deeper until he could find and solve the problem with their membership committee and 3rd party marketing firms. We have spoken a couple of times on the phone through this process and he is truly a Brother to all of us! It's nice to see that organizations can change through the efforts of dedicated and sincere people like him. Issue resolved! |
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Why is the receptionist telling the "whole workplace" what calls you are receiving?
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Why is the receptionist telling the "whole workplace" what calls you are receiving? View Quote They have an open floor plan and can hear her pass the calls. We have a busy place with 3-4 people in the pit at any one time. Private business such as the legal, insurance, etc who know us call our direct lines. We do not allow personal or non work related calls and we have enforced this policy. So, it looks hypocritical too. |
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Hopefully the phone call was important enough to warrant that action.
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So you got a cold call at work. Big whoop. Cheer up, next time the receptionist might get one for sex toys.
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Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden.
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Hopefully the phone call was important enough to warrant that action. It was a fundraising call. I'm sure in their mind it was probably one of the most important calls to make. Unfortunately this is what you signed up for. |
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I'm sure in their mind it was probably one of the most important calls to make. Unfortunately this is what you signed up for. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hopefully the phone call was important enough to warrant that action. It was a fundraising call. I'm sure in their mind it was probably one of the most important calls to make. Unfortunately this is what you signed up for. I signed up to be contacted at the number provided. Why are they data-mining their own members and sharing that with outside organizations? Many people cannot disclose such an affiliation at work and it will discourage membership if they are known to be indiscreet. |
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That is annoying. Only thing you can do now: wall-hang a .30-.30 lever action above your desk.
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Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. View Quote In some areas and businesses it is. They should not be calling people at work. It will get people fired. |
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I'm sure in their mind it was probably one of the most important calls to make. Unfortunately this is what you signed up for. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hopefully the phone call was important enough to warrant that action. It was a fundraising call. I'm sure in their mind it was probably one of the most important calls to make. Unfortunately this is what you signed up for. I don't recall ever signing up to allow the NRA (or anyone) to data mine for numbers I did not give them. |
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Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. View Quote It sucks that you support the 2nd amendment but not the complete bill of rights which addresses what, how, when, and to whom, I disclose my political associations being my decision. Freedom of expression, freedom to assemble/associate, freedom not just guns. |
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I'm at work yesterday in my office and the receptionist passes a call to me. It's the NRA with a message from Wayne for me. Well, a firm paid by them. I'm a life member already. I ask how he got my office number and he says NRA gave it to him. I login and my contact info is my home number. I call member services and ask how they have my office number and they got nothing. They finally pass me to headquarters and they blacklist my work number which they are not supposed to have with the explanation their marketing team has gone out and data mined their membership list for alternative numbers. I go out of my office and the whole workplace is "why is NRA calling you?" Fortunately, I work in a closely held business and I am in an executive position. The owner has me help him buy his first pistol last year. However, none of the employees knew any of our personal business and I'm sure have no idea what is in my briefcase with full support of owner. I bet they have a good guess now. I can't believe our own allied organization is this irresponsible. The consequences for some could be disastrous. View Quote Another reason why I'm glad I live in a red state. |
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One question I'd have would be did the NRA actually track down the caller and call, or are they assuming it was a data mined number etc.
Seems like an easy way to scam people... If you had a list of people who had bought something from a company that got hacked for instance. If you're on LinkedIn I'm guessing it wouldn't be hard to find an office number for you. |
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This is why I am not a member of the NRA, I support the second ammendement but they have turned the pro 2a movement into a marketing machine.
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They are intrusive as hell. They have a don't solicit list that I am finally on. It came to a head with the 10PM est calls and when I called to change my address the guy literally wouldn't let me just change my address until he got his begging out of the way. Even when we got down to business he kept asking. I finally told him if he asks again, I'd donate to hillary. I support their efforts but it's ridiculous the boundaries they push. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hopefully the phone call was important enough to warrant that action. Because of the Millennial/NRA thread, I contacted two old friends who have become really into guns over the last two years (as seen on social media) and asked if they were NRA members. Both were initially, but aren't anymore. - one stated that they just got them to stop calling and his wife would kill him if the phone calls started up again. - the other was worried about a similar situation to the OP. He does a ton of contract work (white color/creative) with very liberal businesses and stated "it would be like having the Nazi party spam me with telemarketing at the wrong place or time". |
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They gotta fund that ceramic eagle factory in China somehow. Perfect example of why we need to vote in Nolo and Supermoose and kick out the morons like Wayne and Nugent.
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Quoted: Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. View Quote Dude said be was a life member. Dude also said company has strict policies on non work stuff. He also said he is a part of the executive team there. What the fuck is so hard for you to process. You sound like the kind of guy who farts loudly in church, then says "aaaahhhh", just cuz you can. |
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Yeah, they got my office #. It's my office, so that's not a big deal, but very aggravating, finally quit just hanging up and told
"some guy" it was my business # and it was intruding on my work. He apologized, said they'd delete it. Never got another call at that #. Now if I could just get rid of "Sarah" from Google. |
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I'm currently a member, but I wasn't for a while due to their sleazy marketing tactics. No other organization I have dealt with is as bad as they are. Fortunately, they'll stop everything except an occasional letter if you tell them to.
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This is why I am not a member of the NRA, I support the second ammendement but they have turned the pro 2a movement into a marketing machine. View Quote Yup. Fuck the NRA. They don't support the types of weapons I enjoy and have a long track record of being more then happy to throw us under the bus when push comes to shove. Fuckem. |
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Quoted: I signed up to be contacted at the number provided. Why are they data-mining their own members and sharing that with outside organizations? Many people cannot disclose such an affiliation at work and it will discourage membership if they are known to be indiscreet. View Quote How do they know where you work? Did you provide that information to the NRA? The issue I would be more concerned with is how can a marketing company with just your basic information track down where you work? Do you have a linked in profile with information on it? Facebook? Some how you have provided a way for a business to follow you from home to work. |
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Quoted: This is why I am not a member of the NRA, I support the second ammendement but they have turned the pro 2a movement into a marketing machine. View Quote Oh you are one of those. Fuck the most effective gun rights organization because they send me spam people. Don't worry, rest of us will carry the water for your lazy ass. You know how much marketing mail, email, and phone calls I get from the NRA? ZERO. It takes sending them an email to be put on the restricted communication list. Something apparently too difficult for you to accomplish. Fucking 13er. |
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Dude said be was a life member. Dude also said company has strict policies on non work stuff. He also said he is a part of the executive team there. What the fuck is so hard for you to process. You sound like the kind of guy who farts loudly in church, then says "aaaahhhh", just cuz you can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. Dude said be was a life member. Dude also said company has strict policies on non work stuff. He also said he is a part of the executive team there. What the fuck is so hard for you to process. You sound like the kind of guy who farts loudly in church, then says "aaaahhhh", just cuz you can. This... |
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Quoted: One question I'd have would be did the NRA actually track down the caller and call, or are they assuming it was a data mined number etc. View Quote The NRA didn't do that as they don't run their own telephone fundraising center. Like most companies the bid that type of work out to 3rd parties. I'm sure the 3rd party company is paid based on the revenue they bring in and they are using the underhanded tactics to track people down. |
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Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. View Quote You'd be better off getting a call from NAMBLA in parts of NY, MD, CA, NJ, OR, HI, and even a couple parts of MI. I agree, but some people live in antigun regions and work for antigun employers. NRA should be smarter than that, especially with a lifetime member. |
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Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. View Quote His support won't mean shit if he gets fired. I get the the idealistic argument... but reality doesn't give a shit about your ideals. If they're calling people at work and outing them in such a manner that's fucked up and needs to stop. If for no other reason than it's nobody else's fucking business what OP does in his spare time. |
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styles - have you sent an IM to the NRA board members that we have on this site? I know we have at least 2 right now and 2 more in the works. Let them know what happened and the problem it could have caused. Modern-Musket http://www.ar15.com/member/member.html?id=338804 SCDonttreadonme http://www.ar15.com/member/member.html?id=176077 |
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I'm trying to figure out why they have or you gave them your work info to begin with?
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How do they know where you work? Did you provide that information to the NRA? The issue I would be more concerned with is how can a marketing company with just your basic information track down where you work? Do you have a linked in profile with information on it? Facebook? Some how you have provided a way for a business to follow you from home to work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I signed up to be contacted at the number provided. Why are they data-mining their own members and sharing that with outside organizations? Many people cannot disclose such an affiliation at work and it will discourage membership if they are known to be indiscreet. How do they know where you work? Did you provide that information to the NRA? The issue I would be more concerned with is how can a marketing company with just your basic information track down where you work? Do you have a linked in profile with information on it? Facebook? Some how you have provided a way for a business to follow you from home to work. ADP or someone probably reports it to a third party. I doubt they are calling based on LinkedIn data and not something that is easily aggregated automatically. |
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Quoted: Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. View Quote If some other worker gets a call from the Sierra club would people freak out? Man the fuck up. |
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The NRA didn't do that as they don't run their own telephone fundraising center. Like most companies the bid that type of work out to 3rd parties. I'm sure the 3rd party company is paid based on the revenue they bring in and they are using the underhanded tactics to track people down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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One question I'd have would be did the NRA actually track down the caller and call, or are they assuming it was a data mined number etc. The NRA didn't do that as they don't run their own telephone fundraising center. Like most companies the bid that type of work out to 3rd parties. I'm sure the 3rd party company is paid based on the revenue they bring in and they are using the underhanded tactics to track people down. Then the NRA needs to either fire that company or reign them in. Calling people at work is going to get people fired. |
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Quoted: It sucks that you support the 2nd amendment but not the complete bill of rights which addresses what, how, when, and to whom, I disclose my political associations being my decision. Freedom of expression, freedom to assemble/associate, freedom not just guns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. It sucks that you support the 2nd amendment but not the complete bill of rights which addresses what, how, when, and to whom, I disclose my political associations being my decision. Freedom of expression, freedom to assemble/associate, freedom not just guns. |
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They kept calling me every 2 days asking for more money. I was working 2nd shift and would sleep until 10:30 am and they would call me at 8:30 am waking me up. After asking nicely The caller on the other side told me that I couldn't stop the calling. After sending corporate s scathing email and vowing to never again be a member they stopped calling. Fuck em.
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So you advocate freedom, yet you feel that those same freedoms need remain hidden? Irony much? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sucks you treat a call from the NRA the same way someone would treat a call from NAMBLA. Your support for the Second Amendment is nothing to be ashamed of and shouldn't be kept hidden. It sucks that you support the 2nd amendment but not the complete bill of rights which addresses what, how, when, and to whom, I disclose my political associations being my decision. Freedom of expression, freedom to assemble/associate, freedom not just guns. Their business, their rules? OP was lucky, I'm sure if the National Revenue Association called some employers it would only single the person out. They shouldn't be calling people at work anyway, he didn't give them permission to and provided them with a valid number to call. Why do they think have a right to do what they want? oh ya, to spam people with calls to raise money lol |
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I prefer to keep as low a profile as possible, as I feel it's nobody's business but mine and the folks I let know. Not so much that I really care who knows, but moreso I don't ever want to talk about guns with someone unless I know they're not an idiot. So many "fake" gun people talking total nonsense based on their call of duty knowledge, or "I know a guy with an illegal machine gun" - Also so many anti-gunners that want to get into a debate.
I get lightweight bummed out at the amount of mail I get with guns/etc printed all over it. If they started calling me at work I'd probably be fairly upset. |
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I don't remember what I did or said after some obnoxious shithead called me on behalf of the NRA saying crap like "why don't you support the 2nd Amendment?" and telling me that he was going to call me back twice a day after I asked them not to call back, but it must have worked because I don't get anything from the NRA except my magazine. No calls, no fundraising letters, no trinkets in the mail, nothing.
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I'm at work yesterday in my office and the receptionist passes a call to me. It's the NRA with a message from Wayne for me. Well, a firm paid by them. I'm a life member already. I ask how he got my office number and he says NRA gave it to him. I login and my contact info is my home number. I call member services and ask how they have my office number and they got nothing. They finally pass me to headquarters and they blacklist my work number which they are not supposed to have with the explanation their marketing team has gone out and data mined their membership list for alternative numbers. I go out of my office and the whole workplace is "why is NRA calling you?" Fortunately, I work in a closely held business and I am in an executive position. The owner has me help him buy his first pistol last year. However, none of the employees knew any of our personal business and I'm sure have no idea what is in my briefcase with full support of owner. I bet they have a good guess now. I can't believe our own allied organization is this irresponsible. The consequences for some could be disastrous. View Quote Check your IM brother. I'll need to get some information from you so I could help you with your issue. Be more than happy to help. Joe |
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This is why I am not a member of the NRA, I support the second ammendement but they have turned the pro 2a movement into a marketing machine. View Quote Riiiiiight..... I'm sure it has nothing to do with you being a consummate cheap ass that's comfortable letting others pull your dead weight. |
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I'm at work yesterday in my office and the receptionist passes a call to me. It's the NRA with a message from Wayne for me. Well, a firm paid by them. I'm a life member already. I ask how he got my office number and he says NRA gave it to him. I login and my contact info is my home number. I call member services and ask how they have my office number and they got nothing. They finally pass me to headquarters and they blacklist my work number which they are not supposed to have with the explanation their marketing team has gone out and data mined their membership list for alternative numbers. I go out of my office and the whole workplace is "why is NRA calling you?" Fortunately, I work in a closely held business and I am in an executive position. The owner has me help him buy his first pistol last year. However, none of the employees knew any of our personal business and I'm sure have no idea what is in my briefcase with full support of owner. I bet they have a good guess now. I can't believe our own allied organization is this irresponsible. The consequences for some could be disastrous. View Quote thats effed up! |
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I'm trying to figure out why they have or you gave them your work info to begin with? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I'm trying to figure out why they have or you gave them your work info to begin with? From the OP: They finally pass me to headquarters and they blacklist my work number which they are not supposed to have with the explanation their marketing team has gone out and data mined their membership list for alternative numbers.
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my boss ended a business development meeting early this past Wednesday by announcing "let's talk tomorrow, Leisure Shoot has to get to his gun class so he can be a more efficient killer"
I took it as a compliment that he cares. |
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