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You think you will get 600 horse out of a 3.5EB just by cranking up the boost and advancing timing? No way, and even if you could, it would live a very short life. View Quote The ecoboost truck doesn't need 600hp Mr Wizard. It' weighs 800lbs less and has a 10 speed transmission that keeps it in the power band. How many 600hp vehicles have you owned? I have have owned multiples including cars that have made north of 1500hp at the rear wheels. This is easy enough to solve. You go but a 6.2L powered truck and supercharge it, we can meet on the middle and I will drag you silly. Sound like a plan? |
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For realz though OP aside from busting your balls, are you gonna tow at all with it? Actually been looking to downsize from my ram 2500 due to no longer having to pull heavy with it. Would be interested to see if these things tow decent at all View Quote I have a tow truck, the Raptor is my daily driver/play truck. |
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rc is like lerue, people eat his shit up no matter what he posts View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How the hell is this shit 5 pages? rc is like lerue, people eat his shit up no matter what he posts I can assume you have a similar dislike for both. |
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The Shelby trucks do not have what makes a Raptor a Raptor, the suspension is second to none. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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RCC1, why didn't you buy a 700hp Shelby F150? The Shelby trucks do not have what makes a Raptor a Raptor, the suspension is second to none. That sounds like another way of saying you can't afford it. Good luck with your Raptor. |
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg View Quote 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. |
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Fuck there's some haters in here. My old man works for ford at the stamping plant. I can appreciate another ford guy.
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That sounds like another way of saying you can't afford it. Good luck with your Raptor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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RCC1, why didn't you buy a 700hp Shelby F150? The Shelby trucks do not have what makes a Raptor a Raptor, the suspension is second to none. That sounds like another way of saying you can't afford it. Good luck with your Raptor. Lol......... You are probably right. |
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The ecoboost truck doesn't need 600hp Mr Wizard. It' weighs 800lbs less and has a 10 speed transmission that keeps it in the power band. How many 600hp vehicles have you owned? I have have owned multiples including cars that have made north of 1500hp at the rear wheels. This is easy enough to solve. You go but a 6.2L powered truck and supercharge it, we can meet on the middle and I will drag you silly. Sound like a plan? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You think you will get 600 horse out of a 3.5EB just by cranking up the boost and advancing timing? No way, and even if you could, it would live a very short life. The ecoboost truck doesn't need 600hp Mr Wizard. It' weighs 800lbs less and has a 10 speed transmission that keeps it in the power band. How many 600hp vehicles have you owned? I have have owned multiples including cars that have made north of 1500hp at the rear wheels. This is easy enough to solve. You go but a 6.2L powered truck and supercharge it, we can meet on the middle and I will drag you silly. Sound like a plan? They aren't even in production yet, so nobody knows what it will weigh. But the standard F150 was not even close to their predicted weight reduction, when they went to Al. I though about buying a 6.2 Raptor, but I can't justify paying new prices for a 3 y.o. truck. If I buy one, it will be new with 3.5. |
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Are you regretting not going to college yet? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Went by the dealership today and a new Raptor, it will be my third one. Hoping I will see it in October/November. #MicroPenisProblems Are you regretting not going to college yet? your mom goes to college Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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They aren't even in production yet, so nobody knows what it will weigh. But the standard F150 was not even close to their predicted weight reduction, when they went to Al. I though about buying a 6.2 Raptor, but I can't justify paying new prices for a 3 y.o. truck. If I buy one, it will be new with 3.5. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You think you will get 600 horse out of a 3.5EB just by cranking up the boost and advancing timing? No way, and even if you could, it would live a very short life. The ecoboost truck doesn't need 600hp Mr Wizard. It' weighs 800lbs less and has a 10 speed transmission that keeps it in the power band. How many 600hp vehicles have you owned? I have have owned multiples including cars that have made north of 1500hp at the rear wheels. This is easy enough to solve. You go but a 6.2L powered truck and supercharge it, we can meet on the middle and I will drag you silly. Sound like a plan? They aren't even in production yet, so nobody knows what it will weigh. But the standard F150 was not even close to their predicted weight reduction, when they went to Al. I though about buying a 6.2 Raptor, but I can't justify paying new prices for a 3 y.o. truck. If I buy one, it will be new with 3.5. My offer still stands. |
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500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. You have no way of knowing that. 20% increase on 500 is 600, as said it'll be lighter so it'll handle better and be quicker. Edit: it'll also have a significant torque advantage |
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For realz though OP aside from busting your balls, are you gonna tow at all with it? Actually been looking to downsize from my ram 2500 due to no longer having to pull heavy with it. Would be interested to see if these things tow decent at all View Quote Rented a F-150 eco boost to pull a 14 foot enclosed trailer full of tools for a week. The truck had plenty of power, can boil tires with a lot of tounge weight, goes down the highway fine at 80mph. Could use airbags in the back to help with the sag. |
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You have no way of knowing that. 20% increase on 500 is 600, as said it'll be lighter so it'll handle better and be quicker. Edit: it'll also have a significant torque advantage View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. You have no way of knowing that. 20% increase on 500 is 600, as said it'll be lighter so it'll handle better and be quicker. Edit: it'll also have a significant torque advantage Yes, I do. How exactly did you think they are going to going to increase the power of the 2017 3.5EB? By doing the same thing you do with a "tune". And it's not going to have 500 horse from the factory, not even at the crank. More like 450. Yes, it will be lighter, but probably 400 pounds lighter, not 800. If anyone really thinks that it's going to have 500 horse (stock) and weigh 800 pounds less, they are going to be disappointed. But it should still be a great truck; some people just need to be more realistic. |
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does it have the aluminum bed that if you drop a tool box on it, it rips?
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Wow such class warfare and faggot hate. No wonder Bernie had such momentum.
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your mom goes to college Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Went by the dealership today and a new Raptor, it will be my third one. Hoping I will see it in October/November. #MicroPenisProblems Are you regretting not going to college yet? your mom goes to college Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile BOOM!!! /THREAD |
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Yes, I do. How exactly did you think they are going to going to increase the power of the 2017 3.5EB? By doing the same thing you do with a "tune". And it's not going to have 500 horse from the factory, not even at the crank. More like 450. Yes, it will be lighter, but probably 400 pounds lighter, not 800. If anyone really thinks that it's going to have 500 horse (stock) and weigh 800 pounds less, they are going to be disappointed. But it should still be a great truck; some people just need to be more realistic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. You have no way of knowing that. 20% increase on 500 is 600, as said it'll be lighter so it'll handle better and be quicker. Edit: it'll also have a significant torque advantage Yes, I do. How exactly did you think they are going to going to increase the power of the 2017 3.5EB? By doing the same thing you do with a "tune". And it's not going to have 500 horse from the factory, not even at the crank. More like 450. Yes, it will be lighter, but probably 400 pounds lighter, not 800. If anyone really thinks that it's going to have 500 horse (stock) and weigh 800 pounds less, they are going to be disappointed. But it should still be a great truck; some people just need to be more realistic. Lol, there are pretty significant improvements coming on the new EB. Even at 450HP and 400 lbs less that will make it faster than the SC 6.2. Guess we'll just wait and see. |
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does it have the aluminum bed that if you drop a tool box on it, it rips? View Quote No, it has the aluminum bed that most people are smart enough to Linex, so it doesn't rip from anything. Contrary to uneducated opinions, that coating makes it much stronger. I'm 46 years old and I've been driving pickups since I was in my early teens (farm kid), and I've never dropped a toolbox into a bed on it's corner. Never dropped a load of bricks from ten feet in the air, either. Really common problems there. |
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This is the same basic engine as the one in the Ford GT, which will be making no less than 600 horsepower. I'm sure the Raptor will get smaller turbos which could be a bottleneck, but the engine itself seems to be far from "maxed out".
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Lol, there are pretty significant improvements coming on the new EB. Even at 450HP and 400 lbs less that will make it faster than the SC 6.2. Guess we'll just wait and see. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. You have no way of knowing that. 20% increase on 500 is 600, as said it'll be lighter so it'll handle better and be quicker. Edit: it'll also have a significant torque advantage Yes, I do. How exactly did you think they are going to going to increase the power of the 2017 3.5EB? By doing the same thing you do with a "tune". And it's not going to have 500 horse from the factory, not even at the crank. More like 450. Yes, it will be lighter, but probably 400 pounds lighter, not 800. If anyone really thinks that it's going to have 500 horse (stock) and weigh 800 pounds less, they are going to be disappointed. But it should still be a great truck; some people just need to be more realistic. Lol, there are pretty significant improvements coming on the new EB. Even at 450HP and 400 lbs less that will make it faster than the SC 6.2. Guess we'll just wait and see. I see that math isn't your strong suit. 400 pounds is not enough to offset 150 more horsepower. |
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I see that math isn't your strong suit. 400 pounds is not enough to offset 150 more horsepower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. You have no way of knowing that. 20% increase on 500 is 600, as said it'll be lighter so it'll handle better and be quicker. Edit: it'll also have a significant torque advantage Yes, I do. How exactly did you think they are going to going to increase the power of the 2017 3.5EB? By doing the same thing you do with a "tune". And it's not going to have 500 horse from the factory, not even at the crank. More like 450. Yes, it will be lighter, but probably 400 pounds lighter, not 800. If anyone really thinks that it's going to have 500 horse (stock) and weigh 800 pounds less, they are going to be disappointed. But it should still be a great truck; some people just need to be more realistic. Lol, there are pretty significant improvements coming on the new EB. Even at 450HP and 400 lbs less that will make it faster than the SC 6.2. Guess we'll just wait and see. I see that math isn't your strong suit. 400 pounds is not enough to offset 150 more horsepower. You forgot the tune that was discussed. If the tuned engine puts out 560hp then 10HP per 100lb weight savings will make it equal to a 600HP version. I would bet they will get more HP out of it than that. Edit: I'm sure you realize that the existing 2011 ecoboost has made +175HP and +300lbft with just a tune, exhaust and different intercooler. |
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Quoted: I like the op and his gun's, even though he drives a piece of shit Ford View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Wow such class warfare and faggot hate. No wonder Bernie had such momentum. I like the op and his gun's, even though he drives a piece of shit Ford OP has sick gats, I'm hoping for more burnt Bronze on his next cerakote spree |
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Lol, there are pretty significant improvements coming on the new EB. Even at 450HP and 400 lbs less that will make it faster than the SC 6.2. Guess we'll just wait and see You forgot the tune that was discussed. View Quote I didn't forget anything. I was responding to your comment in bold. |
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500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. K |
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. K http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/ATC-Crazy/GT.jpg That's "projected" horsepower, in case you didn't notice. And being in a car, they can tune it to make power at high RPM. In a truck, that doesn't work well. That GT 3.5 will be very different from the one in a Raptor. Different cams, different exhaust, different intercooler, different turbos, and probably different heads, too. Cool looking car though. I think I heard 400k MSRP. |
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Good lord people sure will bitch about anything. Nice truck OP.
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That's "projected" horsepower, in case you didn't notice. And being in a car, they can tune it to make power at high RPM. In a truck, that doesn't work well. That GT 3.5 will be very different from the one in a Raptor. Different cams, different exhaust, different intercooler, different turbos, and probably different heads, too. Cool looking car though. I think I heard 400k MSRP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. K http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/ATC-Crazy/GT.jpg That's "projected" horsepower, in case you didn't notice. And being in a car, they can tune it to make power at high RPM. In a truck, that doesn't work well. That GT 3.5 will be very different from the one in a Raptor. Different cams, different exhaust, different intercooler, different turbos, and probably different heads, too. Cool looking car though. I think I heard 400k MSRP. You think Ford is going to put out all this hype about their new supercar having over 600hp and reveal it with only 500, or 550hp? Of course it's going to have different parts to help it breathe better. It will possibly have different (lighter) pistons. But with that said, I bet the short block will be the same. Throw a good tune, intake, exhaust/headers, and turbos on the truck and I bet you can get very close to 600. You make it seem as though the 3.5EB is incapable of making 600hp. |
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You think Ford is going to put out all this hype about their new supercar having over 600hp and reveal it with only 500, or 550hp? Of course it's going to have different parts to help it breathe better. It will possibly have different (lighter) pistons. But with that said, I bet the short block will be the same. Throw a good tune, intake, exhaust/headers, and turbos on the truck and I bet you can get very close to 600. You make it seem as though the 3.5EB is incapable of making 600hp. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 2011-2014 EB with a tune and 93 adds about 25% HP and TQ gain. This one should not be any different. http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/prm/homepage/TouchClarity/images/articles/Performance-Chips/diablosport-trinity-and-intune-ford-f150-ecoboost.jpg 500 is a long way from 600. The "new" 3.5 is going to be delivered in a higher state of tune. There won't be as much left on the table, so you won't be able to gain 25%. K http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/ATC-Crazy/GT.jpg That's "projected" horsepower, in case you didn't notice. And being in a car, they can tune it to make power at high RPM. In a truck, that doesn't work well. That GT 3.5 will be very different from the one in a Raptor. Different cams, different exhaust, different intercooler, different turbos, and probably different heads, too. Cool looking car though. I think I heard 400k MSRP. You think Ford is going to put out all this hype about their new supercar having over 600hp and reveal it with only 500, or 550hp? Of course it's going to have different parts to help it breathe better. It will possibly have different (lighter) pistons. But with that said, I bet the short block will be the same. Throw a good tune, intake, exhaust/headers, and turbos on the truck and I bet you can get very close to 600. You make it seem as though the 3.5EB is incapable of making 600hp. I'm not saying that it can't do it. I'm saying that if the new 2017 3.5 Raptor is making 450 or 500 horse, you aren't going to add 25% more with just a "tune", as was claimed by someone in this thread. I'm saying that it's already going to be in a higher state of tune, with less "left on the table" than the previous version. That's all. |
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Not to bust your bubble OP, but the 2017 tuned ecoboost won't keep up with a blown 6.2 in a drag race. The weight difference isn't enough to even keep it close. It's simply not debatable.
The 17 is a better truck in every other way, though. Congrats on the new (upcoming) ride. |
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Meh...... still a Ford, should have gotten the Toyota instead.
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the order sheet is missing the requested dog breed for their latest promotion
they give you someone to walk home with in all honesty sweet truck though, I would drive it |
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