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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:15:58 AM EDT
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It's a good time to buy stock in Olin-Winchester (20.5). The stock dropped ~5% on Friday when the company forecasted lower earnings than expected.
http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/OLN/ The stock pays a 3.9% dividend. You can write covered calls and make even more. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:20:37 AM EDT
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:26:08 AM EDT
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I don't think you can lose money buying ammo. Mags on the other hand, yes I think there are so many manufactures now that there will always be a surplus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With everything going on in the past month, from Orlando on, we should be in the middle of a "shelves are bare" panic right now. We actually are in a panic, but the fact that I can still buy whatever I want for just a slight increase in Spring 2016 prices is a sign of the industry's increased capacity. Guns and ammo is the crowded trade of 2016. Invest with the hope of turning a huge profit at your peril. I don't think you can lose money buying ammo. Mags on the other hand, yes I think there are so many manufactures now that there will always be a surplus. When did you get into guns? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:27:10 AM EDT
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With everything going on in the past month, from Orlando on, we should be in the middle of a "shelves are bare" panic right now. We actually are in a panic, but the fact that I can still buy whatever I want for just a slight increase in Spring 2016 prices is a sign of the industry's increased capacity. Guns and ammo is the crowded trade of 2016. Invest with the hope of turning a huge profit at your peril. I don't think you can lose money buying ammo. Mags on the other hand, yes I think there are so many manufactures now that there will always be a surplus. When did you get into guns? Late 1980s |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:30:41 AM EDT
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Runs to the basement...........measures the various ammo forts............everything is 5 by 5 here.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:32:33 AM EDT
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As long as Georgia Arms is open for business and making canned heat bulk ammo.....there is no reason to panic.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:33:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. That's a fact, Jack. Reloading equipment and supplies too. I spent a few hours yesterday trying to sort and organize my ammo stash. It's pretty amazing how much I accumulated from about 2000 - 2012. I have another shipment of .22 LR on the way this week. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:37:30 AM EDT
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At no point during the 2008 and 2013 panics was I unable to find ammo so I have no clue what you are talking about OP.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:45:29 AM EDT
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Research ammo cost for a common case of ammo over the last 20 years.
Or longer if you want to do so. I expect most folks will decide they should be placing an ammo folder in their budget folder and when the ammo folder can purchase a case or two of ammo, will do so. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:45:52 AM EDT
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I'm still seeing bulk in the shelves at the shops. Maybe it's just you. I buy from SGammo and their stock is looking pretty darn thin these days Yesterday at the local Sportsmen Warehouse here in town, there were buckets of Remington 9x19, cans of Blazer 9zx19, Hornady, HPR, and Federal .223. Reloading supplies, there was [plenty of powder and projectiles but primers was hit hard. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:46:42 AM EDT
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It's a good time to buy stock in Olin-Winchester (20.5). The stock dropped ~5% on Friday when the company forecasted lower earnings than expected. http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/OLN/ The stock pays a 3.9% dividend. You can write covered calls and make even more. How long is that dividend going to last when they are losing money? They are paying out more in dividends than they make in profit at least at the moment. It also appears that their small arms ammunition business is only about 25% of their sales so it's not a pure play in the ammo business. Your investment is going to be subject to the performance of the other 75% of their business as well. Just being the devil's advocate. I'm sure you've spent more time with it than me. That's just my 5 second flyby based on looking at their fundamentals and annual report. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:46:57 AM EDT
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what are you talking about? i still see plenty in stock
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:47:04 AM EDT
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Just hit one of the search engines. Lots of 9mm blasting ammo available for ~20c per round, including delivery.
http://ammoseek.com/ |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:50:12 AM EDT
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That's a fact, Jack. Reloading equipment and supplies too. I spent a few hours yesterday trying to sort and organize my ammo stash. It's pretty amazing how much I accumulated from about 2000 - 2012. I have another shipment of .22 LR on the way this week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. That's a fact, Jack. Reloading equipment and supplies too. I spent a few hours yesterday trying to sort and organize my ammo stash. It's pretty amazing how much I accumulated from about 2000 - 2012. I have another shipment of .22 LR on the way this week. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:53:47 AM EDT
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Do you work at Wal mart OP?
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:56:16 AM EDT
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Will you guys still be able to buy ammo across the borders and bring it home with you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. That's a fact, Jack. Reloading equipment and supplies too. I spent a few hours yesterday trying to sort and organize my ammo stash. It's pretty amazing how much I accumulated from about 2000 - 2012. I have another shipment of .22 LR on the way this week. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:59:49 AM EDT
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Go online bro, every store im looking at is full stocked and with some of the cheapest prices Ive seen for quite some time.
As for a prediction maybe a small panic come like October or November followed by a larger panic if Hillary wins. She likely will so stock up on anything you need now. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:03:01 PM EDT
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. Can you buy ammo ftf out of state in 17? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:06:19 PM EDT
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. Can you buy ammo ftf out of state in 17? 17? please explain. I'm going to Colorado in a few weeks. Neva mind, 2017  Thanks
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:06:43 PM EDT
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. That's a fact, Jack. Reloading equipment and supplies too. I spent a few hours yesterday trying to sort and organize my ammo stash. It's pretty amazing how much I accumulated from about 2000 - 2012. I have another shipment of .22 LR on the way this week. https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M3ce73a04f835d95a8168c76d656909f8o0&w=300&h=127&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:13:11 PM EDT
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That's a fact, Jack. Reloading equipment and supplies too. I spent a few hours yesterday trying to sort and organize my ammo stash. It's pretty amazing how much I accumulated from about 2000 - 2012. I have another shipment of .22 LR on the way this week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. That's a fact, Jack. Reloading equipment and supplies too. I spent a few hours yesterday trying to sort and organize my ammo stash. It's pretty amazing how much I accumulated from about 2000 - 2012. I have another shipment of .22 LR on the way this week. I have a pretty decent stash of .22 but I think that is the caliber I am going to go deep on. Pretty good on everything else too. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:14:26 PM EDT
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Let the Great Ammo Freak Out of 2016 Begin!!!!
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:14:51 PM EDT
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17? please explain. I'm going to Colorado in a few weeks. Neva mind, 2017 ThanksQuote HistoryQuoted:
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. Can you buy ammo ftf out of state in 17? 17? please explain. I'm going to Colorado in a few weeks. Neva mind, 2017 ThanksUnless the surrounding states start getting leaned on by Cal DOJ or they pass some "clean up" legislation next year making "ammo smuggling" a crime then yes. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:17:16 PM EDT
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Let the Great Ammo Freak Out of 2016 Begin!!!! http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/empty-gun-ammunition-shelves-.jpg That was something wasn't it? Thank God the manufactures stepped up to the plate this time and Obama hasn't bought billions of rounds of ammo. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:18:22 PM EDT
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Just got an in stock notification on wolf gold... Seems like stuff sells out but gets restocked fairly quickly too...
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:20:20 PM EDT
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I have plenty of powder and primers. Enough to last a long time. I do not have enough projectiles. I have a few thousand coated cast 9mm, .45, and .44 mag. I don't like them though so they just sit in my closet. I am damn near out of jacketed pistol bullets. I have a shit ton loaded though. I have quite a few 5.56 fmjbt bullets aside from the thousands loaded. I am completely out of .308 bullets besides what I have loaded.
I moved 12 hours away though without aid from my new job, have paid a $2300 mortgage in Oklahoma for over a year now without living in the house plus have paid rent in Alabama since December. I finally just sold my OK house at a loss. Gotta catch up on debt from all that stuff before even thinking about buying components or guns or anything. I can get what's called a DR loan for a mortgage easily since I am a dentist which is a good rate, no downpayment, and no PMI insurance needed so at least I don't need to save for a downpayment for when I buy again. Luckily I have pretty much every gun I have really wanted. There are a few others I would like but just fluff/stuff I don't need. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:20:24 PM EDT
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It's stupid threads like these that make ammo disappear. Thank you OP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP must be looking in the wrong places or has some ammo to sell. I'm planning on moving soon. I won't be buying anymore ammo for quite some time. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:22:07 PM EDT
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Unless the surrounding states start getting leaned on by Cal DOJ or they pass some "clean up" legislation next year making "ammo smuggling" a crime then yes. I wouldn't count on that. The same could be said of hawaii. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:22:20 PM EDT
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Just got an in stock notification on wolf gold... Seems like stuff sells out but gets restocked fairly quickly too... That's about all I shoot now, 223/556 wise. Still have some 223 pmc and about 500 556 AE in storage, but wolf gold is my standard. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:22:26 PM EDT
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Plenty round these parts.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:22:59 PM EDT
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Runs to the basement...........measures the various ammo forts............everything is 5 by 5 here. The sign of a beginner. A standard pallet measures 40 x 48. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:24:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I buy from SGammo and their stock is looking pretty darn thin these days Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm still seeing bulk in the shelves at the shops. Maybe it's just you. I buy from SGammo and their stock is looking pretty darn thin these days |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:26:57 PM EDT
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I was at Cabela's yesterday. They had so much ammo that there was not enough room for it on the racks so they had it setting on the floor in front of the racks.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:27:31 PM EDT
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On election night if FHRC is elected shit is going to fly off the shelves. What ever don't have and want better get it now.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:29:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just placed an order from them for bother 9 and 223 late last week. No problem. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm still seeing bulk in the shelves at the shops. Maybe it's just you. I buy from SGammo and their stock is looking pretty darn thin these days Just placed an order from them for bother 9 and 223 late last week. No problem. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm still seeing bulk in the shelves at the shops. Maybe it's just you. I buy from SGammo and their stock is looking pretty darn thin these days Just placed an order from them for bother 9 and 223 late last week. No problem. Exactly |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:33:14 PM EDT
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I was at Cabela's yesterday. They had so much ammo that there was not enough room for it on the racks so they had it setting on the floor in front of the racks. How's their prices? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:35:03 PM EDT
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I'm still seeing bulk in the shelves at the shops. Maybe it's just you. I buy from SGammo and their stock is looking pretty darn thin these days Just placed an order from them for bother 9 and 223 late last week. No problem. Exactly No doubt. I got a shipping notice on Sunday. I'm thinking they are working 24/7 trying to stay on top of this panic buy. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:37:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No doubt. I got a shipping notice on Sunday. I'm thinking they are working 24/7 trying to stay on top of this panic buy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I buy from SGammo and their stock is looking pretty darn thin these days Just placed an order from them for bother 9 and 223 late last week. No problem. Exactly No doubt. I got a shipping notice on Sunday. I'm thinking they are working 24/7 trying to stay on top of this panic buy. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How long is that dividend going to last when they are losing money? They are paying out more in dividends than they make in profit at least at the moment. It also appears that their small arms ammunition business is only about 25% of their sales so it's not a pure play in the ammo business. Your investment is going to be subject to the performance of the other 75% of their business as well. Just being the devil's advocate. I'm sure you've spent more time with it than me. That's just my 5 second flyby based on looking at their fundamentals and annual report. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's a good time to buy stock in Olin-Winchester (20.5). The stock dropped ~5% on Friday when the company forecasted lower earnings than expected. http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/OLN/ The stock pays a 3.9% dividend. You can write covered calls and make even more. How long is that dividend going to last when they are losing money? They are paying out more in dividends than they make in profit at least at the moment. It also appears that their small arms ammunition business is only about 25% of their sales so it's not a pure play in the ammo business. Your investment is going to be subject to the performance of the other 75% of their business as well. Just being the devil's advocate. I'm sure you've spent more time with it than me. That's just my 5 second flyby based on looking at their fundamentals and annual report. Olin said they'd make ~$1.20/share this year. That's more cash than they're paying out in dividends. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:39:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:46:33 PM EDT
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Just placed an order from them for bother 9 and 223 late last week. No problem. Exactly No doubt. I got a shipping notice on Sunday. I'm thinking they are working 24/7 trying to stay on top of this panic buy. If you weren't wrong you would be right
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:58:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you weren't wrong you would be right http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc344/mcwherterj/image_15.jpeg[/URL] Background checks? Arfcom members only purchase thru a Gun Show Loophole store. Cash only, please.  |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:08:35 PM EDT
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Unless the surrounding states start getting leaned on by Cal DOJ or they pass some "clean up" legislation next year making "ammo smuggling" a crime then yes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. Can you buy ammo ftf out of state in 17? 17? please explain. I'm going to Colorado in a few weeks. Neva mind, 2017 ThanksUnless the surrounding states start getting leaned on by Cal DOJ or they pass some "clean up" legislation next year making "ammo smuggling" a crime then yes. Do individuals have to ship to an ffl if you bought it off the EE? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:09:24 PM EDT
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looks like trump will schlong Hillary, so probably no election panic coming...
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:09:53 PM EDT
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Background checks? Arfcom members only purchase thru a Gun Show Loophole store. Cash only, please. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h78/danomite45/Subaru/Subyguns.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc344/mcwherterj/image_15.jpeg[/URL] Background checks? Arfcom members only purchase thru a Gun Show Loophole store. Cash only, please. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h78/danomite45/Subaru/Subyguns.jpg Washington state closed that loophole although I can still buy assault rifles off the internet.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:20:21 PM EDT
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Do individuals have to ship to an ffl if you bought it off the EE? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. Can you buy ammo ftf out of state in 17? 17? please explain. I'm going to Colorado in a few weeks. Neva mind, 2017 ThanksUnless the surrounding states start getting leaned on by Cal DOJ or they pass some "clean up" legislation next year making "ammo smuggling" a crime then yes. Do individuals have to ship to an ffl if you bought it off the EE? Not here in the peoples republic of hawaii |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:22:58 PM EDT
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All us Californians are going to suck the supply chain dry over the next year or so before our ammo license scheme and on line sales ban goes into effect. Can you buy ammo ftf out of state in 17? 17? please explain. I'm going to Colorado in a few weeks. Neva mind, 2017 ThanksUnless the surrounding states start getting leaned on by Cal DOJ or they pass some "clean up" legislation next year making "ammo smuggling" a crime then yes. I wont be surprised at all, if California does not do that.. and, have leo do operations, where they cross the border, and watch gun shops for California license plates, then follow them back across the border and search their cars.. OH 30 ROUND MAGS ! going to jail ! they are almost out of anti gun laws to pass... the next step will be to attempt to stop you from using the state line loophole to resupply. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:24:15 PM EDT
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GFY OP. Stupid threads like these don't help.
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