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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:38:23 AM EDT
[#1]
Too bad you missed out on the SKD group buy. Check out their 10x12 stand alone level IV plates.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:39:23 AM EDT
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Not to derail the thread (because I think it's good you're asking) but I believe there's an area here for that. Likely tons of info there.
ETA: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_6/10_Tactical_Gear.html |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:39:29 AM EDT
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Go with some level IV ceramics highcomm and others have good prices.
I'd pass on AR500 |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:40:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:40:30 AM EDT
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Coated steel works in a pinch, but I'd also look at the highcom SAPI plates. They're good for the money. Throw them in a banshee and you've got a basic set.
ETA: The SKD set above is also good |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:44:18 AM EDT
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You can get a set of two level 3 plates from Spartan Armor for $125. Decent basic steel plates.
Try to find a good carrier, there's a big difference in comfort between a budget carrier and a good one. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:50:25 AM EDT
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Did these shooters have armor? whats the panic here about armor about?
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:54:16 AM EDT
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Go with some level IV ceramics highcomm and others have good prices. I'd pass on AR500 Why? |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:57:20 AM EDT
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You can get a set of two level 3 plates from Spartan Armor for $125. Decent basic steel plates. Try to find a good carrier, there's a big difference in comfort between a budget carrier and a good one. I've been looking at Spartan plates and a Condor carrier. Carrier is only like $60 so I consider that "budget" but I've always been really impressed with condor gear. Thoughts on that? |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 11:57:54 AM EDT
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Go with some level IV ceramics highcomm and others have good prices. I'd pass on AR500 Why? Most likely weight |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:00:02 PM EDT
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I've been looking at Spartan plates and a Condor carrier. Carrier is only like $60 so I consider that "budget" but I've always been really impressed with condor gear. Thoughts on that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can get a set of two level 3 plates from Spartan Armor for $125. Decent basic steel plates. Try to find a good carrier, there's a big difference in comfort between a budget carrier and a good one. I've been looking at Spartan plates and a Condor carrier. Carrier is only like $60 so I consider that "budget" but I've always been really impressed with condor gear. Thoughts on that? Condor is for airsoft. Get a US made carrier. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:02:48 PM EDT
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Too bad you missed out on the SKD group buy. Check out their 10x12 stand alone level IV plates. I like my GB setup very much, skd is a great site vendor. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:03:57 PM EDT
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I like my GB setup very much, skd is a great site vendor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Too bad you missed out on the SKD group buy. Check out their 10x12 stand alone level IV plates. I like my GB setup very much, skd is a great site vendor. Me too. Really nice stuff. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:07:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been looking at Spartan plates and a Condor carrier. Carrier is only like $60 so I consider that "budget" but I've always been really impressed with condor gear. Thoughts on that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can get a set of two level 3 plates from Spartan Armor for $125. Decent basic steel plates. Try to find a good carrier, there's a big difference in comfort between a budget carrier and a good one. I've been looking at Spartan plates and a Condor carrier. Carrier is only like $60 so I consider that "budget" but I've always been really impressed with condor gear. Thoughts on that? My main carrier is a Blackhawk STRIKE cutaway, it's a huge difference vs the condor. Very comfortable to wear for hours on end. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:10:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDamn..they are serious about selling those. They want a notarized document and a copy of your CCW and drivers license. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:14:04 PM EDT
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https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/spartan-armor-systems-concealment-plate-carrier-and-armor-platform/
This one has been fairly comfortable for me. It's nothing like a lighter and more flexible vest but when you have a higher likelihood of something more substantial coming your way it's a good additional insurance policy. High performance carries a high price tag. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:15:15 PM EDT
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SKD is good stuff and good people.
I got my plates a few years ago, right when the AR500 was first being used as inexpensive armor. There weren't affordable, easy-to-get level IV ceramic plates like there are now. I'd spend the few extra $$ to get the lightweight ceramic or composite plates. Why? M193, that's why. It's one threat the AR500 doesn't protect against, and it's a common one. Also, weight. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:16:13 PM EDT
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Go with some level IV ceramics highcomm and others have good prices. I'd pass on AR500 Why? Most likely weight And M193 goes right through it. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:21:39 PM EDT
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Cancel that AR500 order and go to Spartan Armor. I ordered their armaply swimmer's cut plates last weekend and it arrived yesterday.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:51:57 PM EDT
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Did these shooters have armor? whats the panic here about armor about? It appears that the shooter was indeed wearing armor. Reports are that an officer was able to score a pistol hit on the shooter while his back was turned, shooter brushed it off, turned around and shot the officer, and finished him off execution style. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cancel that AR500 order and go to Spartan Armor. I ordered their armaply swimmer's cut plates last weekend and it arrived yesterday. Those guys seem to be the best in the steel plate business. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:11:58 PM EDT
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Did these shooters have armor? whats the panic here about armor about? Also whenever there is a mass shooting we keep hearing initial reports from the media where the shooter is wearing a bullet proof vest when it actually didn't happen. The Orlando terrorist also tried to buy body armor as well. I can see where Congress will try to ban body armor before they move on guns. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:14:23 PM EDT
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Too bad you missed out on the SKD group buy. Check out their 10x12 stand alone level IV plates. If it weren't for their stupid ID rules I would have possibly purchased from them but after the AIM debacle my ID goes nowhere unless it is required to by law. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:15:52 PM EDT
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This is called chain mail.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:18:22 PM EDT
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Go with some level IV ceramics highcomm and others have good prices. I'd pass on AR500 Why? This. I have the AR500 plate for my backpack (turns it into a 'in a pinch' armor vest from the front when I wear it with straps). Is it a real vest? No. Can I wear a real vest to my current job? No. Best of both worlds? No, but it's better than a cotton dress shirt if TSHTF |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:19:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:21:03 PM EDT
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There is nothing wrong with AR500 plates if you can't afford anything more. People complaining about them not stopping M193, that is at close range out of a 20" barrel. Most higher armor won't stop common hunting rounds, so there is that. AR500 is certainly better at stopping bullets than harsh language and a carhart jacket.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:23:31 PM EDT
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I bought Shellback Banshees and compressed Dyneema plates for all members of my family years ago. Also bought them Shellback Aggressors and 3A soft armor. Coulda bought a boat, probably, with what I paid for their gear. Its good stuff. I think Shellback has a new carrier or that you can get with armor for like $600. You should do that. Skip that steel crap.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Condor is for airsoft. Get a US made carrier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You can get a set of two level 3 plates from Spartan Armor for $125. Decent basic steel plates. Try to find a good carrier, there's a big difference in comfort between a budget carrier and a good one. I've been looking at Spartan plates and a Condor carrier. Carrier is only like $60 so I consider that "budget" but I've always been really impressed with condor gear. Thoughts on that? Condor is for airsoft. Get a US made carrier. ^ this Grey Ghost Gear Minimalist carrier or Shellback Banshee are about as "budget" as I'd want to go with a carrier. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:25:27 PM EDT
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Too bad you missed out on the SKD group buy. Check out their 10x12 stand alone level IV plates.  Fuck that was a good deal.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:29:31 PM EDT
[#31]
How about another group buy? Who ran it last time?
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is the correct answer^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've got Highcom level IV plates in a Shellback Banshee. I don't want to be shot. Ever. But if I get hit, I hope it's center mass while I'm wearing my PC. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:36:35 PM EDT
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SKD if you are reading this, now is a good time for an ARFCOM deal.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:41:55 PM EDT
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There is nothing wrong with AR500 plates if you can't afford anything more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
There is nothing wrong with AR500 plates if you can't afford anything more. Quoted:People complaining about them not stopping M193, that is at close range out of a 20" barrel. -- wrong. Here is a M193 out of 16" bbl defeating AR500 Level III plates 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vkighPlBoc Here is some 45 gr varmint ammo defeating AR500 Level III from multiple barrel lengths. Any barrel length 14.5"+ defeated the armor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfcJ1RtnDOg Quoted:
Most higher armor won't stop common hunting rounds, so there is that. What common hunting rounds are you referring to? |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:42:31 PM EDT
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SKD if you are reading this, now is a good time for an ARFCOM deal. You just missed it |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:43:28 PM EDT
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Make sure you have a wife like Gecko45's
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:44:20 PM EDT
[#37]
If I had the money I would just get quality ceramic plates.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:46:47 PM EDT
[#38]
I have AR 500 single curve shooters cut and multi current level for cera I have AR 500 single curve shooters cut and HighComm multi curve level 4 ceramic. The difference in weight and fit make the ceramics so much more comfortable. Spend the extra dough on ceramics.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:48:33 PM EDT
[#39]
This is the armor you seek
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:48:58 PM EDT
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I have AR 500 single curve shooters cut and multi current level for cera I have AR 500 single curve shooters cut and HighComm multi curve level 4 ceramic. The difference in weight and fit make the ceramics so much more comfortable. Spend the extra dough on ceramics. I spent more on take out for the fam Tuesday night for dinner than the difference in price between 2x steel plates and 2x Level IV ceramic plates. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:51:33 PM EDT
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Level 4 highcom ceramic and PIG carrier is all you need to know. I'm with the crowd that thinks steel armor is sucks, even though it's better than a carharrt jacket.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:54:08 PM EDT
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If you really want armor get ceramics and a decent carrier. Realistically though, they will most likely sit in the closet and hardly ever get worn let alone used for their intended purposes. I say this as a guy whom has a fairly hard to source Crye JPC and other cool guy gear. I've worn my PC more when exercising than I have while training.
I don't need all the guns I have either. 
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is nothing wrong with AR500 plates if you can't afford anything more. People complaining about them not stopping M193, that is at close range out of a 20" barrel. Most higher armor won't stop common hunting rounds, so there is that. AR500 is certainly better at stopping bullets than harsh language and a carhart jacket. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 2:00:33 PM EDT
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This is the correct answer^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've got Highcom level IV plates in a Shellback Banshee. I don't want to be shot. Ever. But if I get hit, I hope it's center mass while I'm wearing my PC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is the correct answer^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've got Highcom level IV plates in a Shellback Banshee. I don't want to be shot. Ever. But if I get hit, I hope it's center mass while I'm wearing my PC. pretty much this. Steel if you are a tight wad. Ceramic is the way to go. Banshee is a good carrier to start with |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 2:05:01 PM EDT
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Level IV ceramic is rated to stop a 30.06 AP round... what the hell are you hunting with? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is nothing wrong with AR500 plates if you can't afford anything more. People complaining about them not stopping M193, that is at close range out of a 20" barrel. Most higher armor won't stop common hunting rounds, so there is that. AR500 is certainly better at stopping bullets than harsh language and a carhart jacket. Here is .300 WM defeating steel armor but not penetrating ceramics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuSg2DbyduQ |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 2:09:07 PM EDT
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If I were just buying for me, I'd go ceramics, but since I outfitted 4 LBV's with steel coated plates I wouldn't have the resources to put ceramics in it.
Depends on what you are going for. |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 2:16:33 PM EDT
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My choice was a HighComm Level 3+ single curve (lighter than multi). Very good plates and lighter than most for commonly encountered threats. I do keep them in a Condor carrier with the cutout MOLLE. Aside from the negative comments of the HSLD Commandos here, it is superbly built and a perfect fit for those plates.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 2:18:15 PM EDT
[#48]
My thoughts on armor.. Its better to have than not to have.
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Posted: 7/8/2016 2:28:33 PM EDT
[#49]
HighCom Guardian is what I want
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Posted: 7/8/2016 2:34:02 PM EDT
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Is this the right one from High Com?
http://highcomsecurity.com/collections/level-iv-plates/products/guardian-4sas-7?variant=361423011 |
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