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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:12:17 PM EDT
So, i need a new vehicle. mine is on its last leg without dumping 3k into it just to feel safe driving down the road. Current vehicle is an 05 Duramax, 4 door, LT 4X4 with 235,000 miles on the OD. The front end needs a complete replacement, factory just about everything, needs new tires and power steering gear box. I am thinking that 3k into it would maybe give me 3 more years
Now i went to a stearleership today and they quoted me 6k trade in and around 11k rebates off of a 2016 1/2 ton crew cab LT 2X4 with leather and an out the door price of 36k with trade. everything is telling me this is a screaming deal, but a small part of me wants to keep the ole hag around and dump 3k into her 
So, what say the hive, are the current GM deals legit? going to roll over into next month? The sales manager did say this was the last month and the last quarter of the year, so likely not going to happen again until the end of the year. Also told me that he had 22 more to sell before closing tomorrow and to make him a real offer. I just said ill get back with you tomorrow morning sometime, but i will be buying something somewhere tomorrow. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:14:26 PM EDT
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My first house cost less than you will be paying for your truck!
Does that help? |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:15:14 PM EDT
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My first house cost less than you will be paying for your truck! Does that help? no, because my first house cost 450K 
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:15:20 PM EDT
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Make payments and lose 4x4?
i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:16:58 PM EDT
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Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. but the reality is, i work 3 miles from home, have used 4X4 maybe 2 times in three years, and have a vehicle i dont want to drive more than 30 miles from the house |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:18:40 PM EDT
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That doesn't seem right on 2WD, might be ok deal on 4WD think I'd do more research.
What model of 2WD cost 50K? You could easily buy a 4WD for that. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:25:35 PM EDT
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Not really a screaming deal. I'd look around some more.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:27:32 PM EDT
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Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. That's never the right answer. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:28:59 PM EDT
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That doesn't seem right on 2WD, might be ok deal on 4WD think I'd do more research. What model of 2WD cost 50K? You could easily buy a 4WD for that. Edit: wait I missed something, he's selling you the truck for 42 then giving you trade in value of 6 leading to a out the door price of 36??? IMO that's not even a decent deal on the 4x4 unless it's loaded. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:29:02 PM EDT
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but the reality is, i work 3 miles from home, have used 4X4 maybe 2 times in three years, and have a vehicle i dont want to drive more than 30 miles from the house Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. but the reality is, i work 3 miles from home, have used 4X4 maybe 2 times in three years, and have a vehicle i dont want to drive more than 30 miles from the house So you want to spend $36k to drive 3 miles from home? You just said you don't want to drive more than 30 miles from home, but work is only 3 miles away..... |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:35:45 PM EDT
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but the reality is, i work 3 miles from home, have used 4X4 maybe 2 times in three years, and have a vehicle i dont want to drive more than 30 miles from the house Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. but the reality is, i work 3 miles from home, have used 4X4 maybe 2 times in three years, and have a vehicle i dont want to drive more than 30 miles from the house If you put $5k into it, would you change your mind about it's reliability? If you would feel OK, then drop the $5k. If you won't, do what you feel is right. Personally I would feel kind of hinky about paying $30k+ for a lower trim level 2x4 1/2 ton. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:40:36 PM EDT
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That is not a deal.
I paid approx 44 for my '14 crew, Z 71 LTZ2 (I think) package. The only thing my truck doesn't have is a sun roof. And that was when they first released the new body style. They weren't discounting them at all. Having said that, I REALLY miss the '06 Duramax this truck replaced. 1/2 ton trucks are glorified cars these days. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:44:51 PM EDT
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If you put $5k into it, would you change your mind about it's reliability? If you would feel OK, then drop the $5k. If you won't, do what you feel is right. Personally I would feel kind of hinky about paying $30k+ for a lower trim level 2x4 1/2 ton. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. but the reality is, i work 3 miles from home, have used 4X4 maybe 2 times in three years, and have a vehicle i dont want to drive more than 30 miles from the house If you put $5k into it, would you change your mind about it's reliability? If you would feel OK, then drop the $5k. If you won't, do what you feel is right. Personally I would feel kind of hinky about paying $30k+ for a lower trim level 2x4 1/2 ton. I mean, do what you want OP, I dropped a load of money on my F250 front end this year but it's still cheaper than a new truck and i'll trust it for another 120K before I restore it and garage it for the rest of it life. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:49:14 PM EDT
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Where's xd341? He usually pounces on these threads.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:51:06 PM EDT
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well hell, i just found a dodge 1/2 ton 6 cyl 3l Diesel 4x4 fully loaded for 39k
looks much better than the almost basic Chevy for 40k 
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's never the right answer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. That's never the right answer. I know you have diesel PTSD but cmon. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 11:57:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where's xd341? He usually pounces on these threads. |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:09:42 AM EDT
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There is a fleet dealer in Whitesboro, North Texas that carries a nice lineup of Chevy and Ford trucks. I am not affiliated with them in any way, but their prices were fantastic on work trucks. I believe their website is commercialtrucktrader.Com or something like that. In any case, when I visited they had a hundred or so commercial trucks on the lot, and getting a great price took all of three minutes. Note, however, that these are work trucks mostly, so they don't have shaggy carpet. Hell, the one I looked at didn't even have power windows, just AC, engine, and rubber floor mats.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:09:58 AM EDT
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Who buys a truck with only 2WD? Might as well buy an old El Camino for a quarter of the price.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:11:21 AM EDT
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no, because my first house cost 450K
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My first house cost less than you will be paying for your truck! Does that help? no, because my first house cost 450K
450k in Texas?!?, the bell you bought? A 10k square foot mansion with a guest house and 1000 acres of land? |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:12:01 AM EDT
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I waited to spend $75 to get a muffler installed on my truck for fear it would get totaled soon after
If I had $3000 and I knew it would get me three years, that's a deal. That said I sure would like a new truck, but that is a year or two off (unless we can move out of the city sooner, that will be the priority then). |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:24:30 AM EDT
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Cause spending 8k every year for 5 years is somehow better? If 3 or 5k gets you 3 more years or 20k worth of savings how is that not better? I know you have diesel PTSD but cmon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. That's never the right answer. Because it won't be $3-5k. It will be $10-15k (unless OP has a fully equipped diesel shop in his yard) and MIGHT get you 3 more years... till your heads blow or your torque converter takes a dump, stranding you somewhere or costing you your job. |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:25:02 AM EDT
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450k in Texas?!?, the bell you bought? A 10k square foot mansion with a guest house and 1000 acres of land? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My first house cost less than you will be paying for your truck! Does that help? no, because my first house cost 450K
450k in Texas?!?, the bell you bought? A 10k square foot mansion with a guest house and 1000 acres of land? Well when you live on the outskirts of Austin, that gets you a mid level home on 1 acre
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:26:05 AM EDT
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Because it won't be $3-5k. It will be $10-15k (unless OP has a fully equipped diesel shop in his yard) and MIGHT get you 3 more years... till your heads blow or your torque converter takes a dump, stranding you somewhere or costing you your job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make payments and lose 4x4? i'd keep the diesel and put $5K into it to keep it chugging. That's never the right answer. Because it won't be $3-5k. It will be $10-15k (unless OP has a fully equipped diesel shop in his yard) and MIGHT get you 3 more years... till your heads blow or your torque converter takes a dump, stranding you somewhere or costing you your job. pretty much my fear. I am sure the injectors are coming up on time for replacement and pretty much all the seals are leaking 
also to add that my PVR? think thats what it is call, is going bad. I get a horrible surge at 60mph and everything is pointing to a loss in rail pressure |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:31:10 AM EDT
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Fuck that, and if you have to get a new truck, don't let the duramax go for 6k.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 12:48:25 AM EDT
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Fuck that, and if you have to get a new truck, don't let the duramax go for 6k. and why is that? its 11 years old, and could potentially cost several $k in work for the fact it is a duramax in the next few years. With them giving me 6k i almost feel like i am saving 10k in what could go wrong in the up coming years |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:05:57 AM EDT
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They are screwing you on the trade in, you can get more than $6k for an 05 Duramax crew cab.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:10:28 AM EDT
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Do you need a truck? Just get a cheap car if it's just for commuting or driving around town.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:18:05 AM EDT
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They are screwing you on the trade in, you can get more than $6k for an 05 Duramax crew cab. so you are the 5th person to say this, can you elaborate please?? |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:22:18 AM EDT
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so you are the 5th person to say this, can you elaborate please?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are screwing you on the trade in, you can get more than $6k for an 05 Duramax crew cab. so you are the 5th person to say this, can you elaborate please?? well just doing a quick cars.com search, they say its worth 11-17k..... But, it drives like shit, and needs some work 
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:22:41 AM EDT
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Ross Downing in Hammond LA has that truck listed for 38K before trade
LT Double Cab for 33K |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:24:13 AM EDT
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Fix the duramax.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:35:00 AM EDT
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A LLY 05'? Id be more inclined to save it if it was a LBZ(sadly i wrecked mine). Anyways we have a 03' duramax still at work with somewhere around 600k-750k. These gen silverados had cluster problems where the whole cluster would die- odo, speedo, rpm, etc... Anyways it was drove like that for some time before we fixed it lol.
The 03 has the same motor, same trans- only thing replaced was the hydroboost(easy 1 hr job) and the radiator(at +600k miles it becomes a wear part) and lastly the power steering pump(not a fun job but i did it in with the radiator and fan in- 3 hour job) which is probably all yours needs. Now it runs like new! That powersteering pump is basically a wear part. I now drive a 16' f350 lariat and its "nice" lots of annoying bings and alerts ALL THE DAMN TIME! But the seats are air conditioned! |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:35:21 AM EDT
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Fix the duramax. Sell the duramax. Some bro without a dozer will pay stupid money for it. Up here in the nw prices are tarded on diesels. I paid 35k for my '16 4x4 tundra sr5 double cab. Keep shopping. |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:39:08 AM EDT
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Sell the duramax. Some bro without a dozer will pay stupid money for it. Up here in the nw prices are tarded on diesels. I paid 35k for my '16 4x4 tundra sr5 double cab. Keep shopping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fix the duramax. Sell the duramax. Some bro without a dozer will pay stupid money for it. Up here in the nw prices are tarded on diesels. I paid 35k for my '16 4x4 tundra sr5 double cab. Keep shopping. Dumb advice! |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:39:40 AM EDT
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Have you looked at gm certified pre owned?
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:42:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A LLY 05'? Id be more inclined to save it if it was a LBZ(sadly i wrecked mine). Anyways we have a 03' duramax still at work with somewhere around 600k-750k. These gen silverados had cluster problems where the whole cluster would die- odo, speedo, rpm, etc... Anyways it was drove like that for some time before we fixed it lol. The 03 has the same motor, same trans- only thing replaced was the hydroboost(easy 1 hr job) and the radiator(at +600k miles it becomes a wear part) and lastly the power steering pump(not a fun job but i did it in with the radiator and fan in- 3 hour job) which is probably all yours needs. Now it runs like new! That powersteering pump is basically a wear part. I now drive a 16' f350 lariat and its "nice" lots of annoying bings and alerts ALL THE DAMN TIME! But the seats are air conditioned! http://www.bobsspeedometer.com/1/120/gm_cluster_repair.asp |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:47:02 AM EDT
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A LLY 05'? Id be more inclined to save it if it was a LBZ(sadly i wrecked mine). Anyways we have a 03' duramax still at work with somewhere around 600k-750k. These gen silverados had cluster problems where the whole cluster would die- odo, speedo, rpm, etc... Anyways it was drove like that for some time before we fixed it lol. The 03 has the same motor, same trans- only thing replaced was the hydroboost(easy 1 hr job) and the radiator(at +600k miles it becomes a wear part) and lastly the power steering pump(not a fun job but i did it in with the radiator and fan in- 3 hour job) which is probably all yours needs. Now it runs like new! That powersteering pump is basically a wear part. I now drive a 16' f350 lariat and its "nice" lots of annoying bings and alerts ALL THE DAMN TIME! But the seats are air conditioned! not the powersteering pump, but the gear box, which i have replaced three times now. And no i dident buy once cry once with a read head, i bought an aftermarket and it is shit..... But, i dont need the 3/4 ton anymore, i need a family ride that i can put shit in the back
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Posted: 6/30/2016 1:58:47 AM EDT
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IM the VIN # of the truck you're looking at and I'll build your deal up for you
ETA: I need your zip code too |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 2:18:21 AM EDT
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IM the VIN # of the truck you're looking at and I'll build your deal up for you ETA: I need your zip code too Dont want to waste your time, after doing some more research, i have found that Dodge offers way more for way less
I dont really love the body style, but i can get a sport Laramie 4x4 loaded for 36k. and chevy can even touch that
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Posted: 6/30/2016 2:21:37 AM EDT
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so you are the 5th person to say this, can you elaborate please?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are screwing you on the trade in, you can get more than $6k for an 05 Duramax crew cab. so you are the 5th person to say this, can you elaborate please?? I have a 05 2500hd extended cab Duramax with 180k on it needs new tires and front bumper fixed it's a farm truck I've been offered $16k to buy it outright and $11k trade in at a GMC dealer on a Denali HD. Eta: the speedo is out too. |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 2:22:31 AM EDT
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Dont want to waste your time, after doing some more research, i have found that Dodge offers way more for way less
I dont really love the body style, but i can get a sport Laramie 4x4 loaded for 36k. and chevy can even touch that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IM the VIN # of the truck you're looking at and I'll build your deal up for you ETA: I need your zip code too Dont want to waste your time, after doing some more research, i have found that Dodge offers way more for way less
I dont really love the body style, but i can get a sport Laramie 4x4 loaded for 36k. and chevy can even touch that Wait until incentives are released for July.... |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 2:35:16 AM EDT
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Wait until incentives are released for July.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IM the VIN # of the truck you're looking at and I'll build your deal up for you ETA: I need your zip code too Dont want to waste your time, after doing some more research, i have found that Dodge offers way more for way less
I dont really love the body style, but i can get a sport Laramie 4x4 loaded for 36k. and chevy can even touch that Wait until incentives are released for July.... can you PM me more info?? i feel like being the end of the quarter that they are going bye bye? edt: no offence, but i have a hard time trusting someone from the internet to wait because they know whats coming, and they live in AZ. But i want to believe 
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Posted: 6/30/2016 2:36:23 AM EDT
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I have a 05 2500hd extended cab Duramax with 180k on it needs new tires and front bumper fixed it's a farm truck I've been offered $16k to buy it outright and $11k trade in at a GMC dealer on a Denali HD. Eta: the speedo is out too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are screwing you on the trade in, you can get more than $6k for an 05 Duramax crew cab. so you are the 5th person to say this, can you elaborate please?? I have a 05 2500hd extended cab Duramax with 180k on it needs new tires and front bumper fixed it's a farm truck I've been offered $16k to buy it outright and $11k trade in at a GMC dealer on a Denali HD. Eta: the speedo is out too. sure, but mine has 325k on the OD. Hell i dident even change brake pads till 210K on it
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Posted: 6/30/2016 2:43:52 AM EDT
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I waited to spend $75 to get a muffler installed on my truck for fear it would get totaled soon after
If I had $3000 and I knew it would get me three years, that's a deal. That said I sure would like a new truck, but that is a year or two off (unless we can move out of the city sooner, that will be the priority then). Yep. $3K for three ys vs more than $3K depreciation when it's driven off the lot. |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 2:49:39 AM EDT
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Yep. $3K for three ys vs more than $3K depreciation when it's driven off the lot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I waited to spend $75 to get a muffler installed on my truck for fear it would get totaled soon after
If I had $3000 and I knew it would get me three years, that's a deal. That said I sure would like a new truck, but that is a year or two off (unless we can move out of the city sooner, that will be the priority then). Yep. $3K for three ys vs more than $3K depreciation when it's driven off the lot. or 3k into it now, and 3k trade in value in three years..... if nothing goes out on it in those three years. |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 3:08:11 AM EDT
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I think they've got about $4-6k of wiggle room, between the sale price and your trade in value.
Take a look on craigslist at similar trucks to yours and see what they are selling for. Don't worry about the work it needs, everyone shopping that market should be aware of what a 200k plus mile vehicle needs. Look up the vehicle they are trying to sell you on truecar and see what they are selling for. Take a look at the Dodge trucks, they are making extremely great deals on them and they are blowing the other trucks outta the water in all of the tests. |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 3:23:35 AM EDT
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Who buys a truck with only 2WD? Might as well buy an old El Camino for a quarter of the price. Yeah, because, same thing. Because, bed.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 5:29:54 AM EDT
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Post the window sticker, because 36k after 17k off makes no sense for a 2x4 LT crew cab.
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Posted: 6/30/2016 9:02:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: not the powersteering pump, but the gear box, which i have replaced three times now. And no i dident buy once cry once with a read head, i bought an aftermarket and it is shit..... But, i dont need the 3/4 ton anymore, i need a family ride that i can put shit in the back Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A LLY 05'? Id be more inclined to save it if it was a LBZ(sadly i wrecked mine). Anyways we have a 03' duramax still at work with somewhere around 600k-750k. These gen silverados had cluster problems where the whole cluster would die- odo, speedo, rpm, etc... Anyways it was drove like that for some time before we fixed it lol. The 03 has the same motor, same trans- only thing replaced was the hydroboost(easy 1 hr job) and the radiator(at +600k miles it becomes a wear part) and lastly the power steering pump(not a fun job but i did it in with the radiator and fan in- 3 hour job) which is probably all yours needs. Now it runs like new! That powersteering pump is basically a wear part. I now drive a 16' f350 lariat and its "nice" lots of annoying bings and alerts ALL THE DAMN TIME! But the seats are air conditioned! not the powersteering pump, but the gear box, which i have replaced three times now. And no i dident buy once cry once with a read head, i bought an aftermarket and it is shit..... But, i dont need the 3/4 ton anymore, i need a family ride that i can put shit in the back |
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Posted: 6/30/2016 9:21:06 AM EDT
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I'm getting older, and I like driving new shit.
Sit down and invest time into research. Now is the end if the quarter, reports to stockholders are due. Idk shit about buying new trucks, buy i will tell you I've been right at 25% off msrp on my last 4 new car purchases, end of year-end of quarter. |
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