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Took a class from a well known fugitive recovery agent and former LE a year or so back. He told me during lunch about what he and another well known fugitive recovery agent have been working with a convicted murder and family members of the missing for several years...murder victims. They have made it on the news several time years ago on this. Supposedly there where 4 or 5 (and the convicted murder was one of them) guys that would try to out do each other in murder and how they killed there vics and how many they killed. Spanning I think 20+ years. Well over hundred victims. They would kidnap prostitutes, homeless, runaways or stranded motorists near there out in the middle of nowhere area. they would also go to AZ and NV and kidnap folks from truck stops and bring them to a rural property and kill them in front of the other members of this (club).Supposedly the county its in located in "CA" they have intel that a lot of bodies are down a old covered well on a adjacent property which was searched a few years back. They dug up the wrong well from what he said there are several wells on the property. Just the way he talked about it and the way LE really didn't want to investigate the information received seemed odd. It was and is rural area and why would the Sheriff want to add bodies to the unsolved files...There was speculation that when this was all happening that relatives of the Sheriff and high ranking folks in the department may have been involved. They did find parts of bodies a few years ago from the property and called it good...most of the bodies are on a adjacent property though. One of the people helping with the investigation a few years ago was to meet with a suspected person involved and simply disappeared. . He said that most of this happened in the 70's and 80's . I cant remember the name of the guy in prison or the county this all happened in. I did read newspaper clippings he had mounted on the wall regarding it View Quote Reminds me of the movie some years back where the peoples car breaks down and a truck driver takes the wife to the next town.Course she goes missing and her husband (Kurt Russell?) starts tracking her down and finally rescues her at some remote farmhouse. |
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Links? Pressure washers we all know about, Taxman was a kiddie diddler (though there are probably more), but who did some killin'? I hurt someone's feelings once. Did you ambush him with a cup of coffee?? |
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The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. View Quote The reasonably intelligent ones are great at building and maintaining a cover. When they interview neighbors after the killer is caught it's always " we can't believe this. He went to church he was nice even if a bit weird" The whole family, charming, active church member, unassuming member of the community thing or whatever variation of is a schtick created to hide who they really are. |
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I think about shit like that all the time in crowds. Who is battling an addiction, who can't actually afford what they're buying, who is cheating on the spouse they just hugged... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. I always think about that when I'm standing in line at a store and looking at people................ I think about shit like that all the time in crowds. Who is battling an addiction, who can't actually afford what they're buying, who is cheating on the spouse they just hugged... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have never thought about things like that while in crowds. Great now i will |
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I have never thought about things like that while in crowds. Great now i will View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. I always think about that when I'm standing in line at a store and looking at people................ I think about shit like that all the time in crowds. Who is battling an addiction, who can't actually afford what they're buying, who is cheating on the spouse they just hugged... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have never thought about things like that while in crowds. Great now i will Seriously?? All the shit you've read here in the 6 years you have been here didn't have an effect on you?? |
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Seriously?? All the shit you've read here in the 6 years you have been here didn't have an effect on you?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. I always think about that when I'm standing in line at a store and looking at people................ I think about shit like that all the time in crowds. Who is battling an addiction, who can't actually afford what they're buying, who is cheating on the spouse they just hugged... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have never thought about things like that while in crowds. Great now i will Seriously?? All the shit you've read here in the 6 years you have been here didn't have an effect on you?? Not to that degree where i look at lots of people in a crowd and think is that guy cheating,is he serial killer,etc Now i do look for exits in case of trouble and peoples body language when in public places |
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The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. View Quote I read that most people have actually crossed paths with one but were not "chosen" because they didn't fit the bill ... something like that. Eery. |
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Quoted: The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. View Quote I've always wondered about that number... Total guess? Serious estimate based on unsolved homicides and missing persons? It seemed that there were more of them in the 1980's. I don't know if that's really the case. |
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Quoted: Links? Pressure washers we all know about, Taxman was a kiddie diddler (though there are probably more), but who did some killin'? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok, I dont want to derail this thread too much, but clue me in. eta I picked up some rumors that the sandy hook guy visited here if that's what you're talking about. You have verified members here who have done everything from stealing pressure washers to sexual assaults of children, to murder. Links? Pressure washers we all know about, Taxman was a kiddie diddler (though there are probably more), but who did some killin'? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Reminds me of the movie some years back where the peoples car breaks down and a truck driver takes the wife to the next town.Course she goes missing and her husband (Kurt Russell?) starts tracking her down and finally rescues her at some remote farmhouse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Took a class from a well known fugitive recovery agent and former LE a year or so back. He told me during lunch about what he and another well known fugitive recovery agent have been working with a convicted murder and family members of the missing for several years...murder victims. They have made it on the news several time years ago on this. Supposedly there where 4 or 5 (and the convicted murder was one of them) guys that would try to out do each other in murder and how they killed there vics and how many they killed. Spanning I think 20+ years. Well over hundred victims. They would kidnap prostitutes, homeless, runaways or stranded motorists near there out in the middle of nowhere area. they would also go to AZ and NV and kidnap folks from truck stops and bring them to a rural property and kill them in front of the other members of this (club).Supposedly the county its in located in "CA" they have intel that a lot of bodies are down a old covered well on a adjacent property which was searched a few years back. They dug up the wrong well from what he said there are several wells on the property. Just the way he talked about it and the way LE really didn't want to investigate the information received seemed odd. It was and is rural area and why would the Sheriff want to add bodies to the unsolved files...There was speculation that when this was all happening that relatives of the Sheriff and high ranking folks in the department may have been involved. They did find parts of bodies a few years ago from the property and called it good...most of the bodies are on a adjacent property though. One of the people helping with the investigation a few years ago was to meet with a suspected person involved and simply disappeared. . He said that most of this happened in the 70's and 80's . I cant remember the name of the guy in prison or the county this all happened in. I did read newspaper clippings he had mounted on the wall regarding it Reminds me of the movie some years back where the peoples car breaks down and a truck driver takes the wife to the next town.Course she goes missing and her husband (Kurt Russell?) starts tracking her down and finally rescues her at some remote farmhouse. |
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Me too. Except I try to visualize what their skulls look like with the flesh removed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I always think about that when I'm standing in line at a store and looking at people................ And I thought I was the only one.... Me too. Except I try to visualize what their skulls look like with the flesh removed. lol |
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Lol, I think you pretty well described what Cruel and Unusual punishment was written for. Just put them down and be done with it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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With modern medical technology, if should be possible to create a treatment where a person is given extreme pain and discomfort, without causing any cruel or unusual physical harm to the person. Certain levels of treatments could substitute a number of days behind bars, and we would have a way to make evil people like this truly serve their multiple life sentences. Lol, I think you pretty well described what Cruel and Unusual punishment was written for. Just put them down and be done with it. As much as I'm against it, sometimes I think what people get (death or life penalty) just isn't enough to make them pay for their crimes. Especially when it involved children... Its almost hard to fathom the kind of crazy shit out in this world. But then you watch a show like Criminal Minds or movies like Saw and have to think, if someone can come up with this shit to write about, then someone can come up with even more insane shit and actually do it. |
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Good reason to stay armed and aware of your surroundings.
Look at the missing persons numbers... not all alien abductions and people wanting to living homeless. Hellva lot of shallow graves. |
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What's his screen name? What in the blue fuck is wrong with you? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's been explained. And it's a shitty explanation and a shitty comment to make. Any large population will have its share of bad people in it. But to come out with a comment like that shows a total lack of respect for the site and its members. |
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You have verified members here who have done everything from stealing pressure washers to sexual assaults of children, to murder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's his screen name? GTFO! Since past history has proven this correct on more than one occasion, I wonder why you seem to have a problem grasping reality. Ok, I dont want to derail this thread too much, but clue me in. eta I picked up some rumors that the sandy hook guy visited here if that's what you're talking about. You have verified members here who have done everything from stealing pressure washers to sexual assaults of children, to murder. And one real-life traitor/spy. |
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Quoted: The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. View Quote They all want to be caught on some level. They can't bask in the glory of their handiwork while they're unknown. |
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I always think about that when I'm standing in line at a store and looking at people................ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The FBI estimates that there are approximately 25-50 serial killers operating in the country at any one time. Honestly, considering the size and population of the country, they're very rare. With that said, the reasonably intelligent ones are nearly impossible to catch, unless they want to be caught. I always think about that when I'm standing in line at a store and looking at people................ That you might be #51? |
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Quoted: Me too. Except I try to visualize what their skulls look like with the flesh removed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I always think about that when I'm standing in line at a store and looking at people................ And I thought I was the only one.... Me too. Except I try to visualize what their skulls look like with the flesh removed. I'm trying to estimate their dress size while hoping if I remembered to put the fake cast in the van that morning. |
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I've always wondered what short circuits in their brains that they become superpredators of the human race...
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Quoted: I've always wondered what short circuits in their brains that they become superpredators of the human race... I also think that summary execution is the best way to deal with them. View Quote Total lack of empathy coupled with an emptiness that can only be filled with a quick rush of self gratitude. Some people get their rush from spending sprees, others from wearing a girls head as a hat while driving across three states. |
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Reminds me of the movie some years back where the peoples car breaks down and a truck driver takes the wife to the next town.Course she goes missing and her husband (Kurt Russell?) starts tracking her down and finally rescues her at some remote farmhouse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Took a class from a well known fugitive recovery agent and former LE a year or so back. He told me during lunch about what he and another well known fugitive recovery agent have been working with a convicted murder and family members of the missing for several years...murder victims. They have made it on the news several time years ago on this. Supposedly there where 4 or 5 (and the convicted murder was one of them) guys that would try to out do each other in murder and how they killed there vics and how many they killed. Spanning I think 20+ years. Well over hundred victims. They would kidnap prostitutes, homeless, runaways or stranded motorists near there out in the middle of nowhere area. they would also go to AZ and NV and kidnap folks from truck stops and bring them to a rural property and kill them in front of the other members of this (club).Supposedly the county its in located in "CA" they have intel that a lot of bodies are down a old covered well on a adjacent property which was searched a few years back. They dug up the wrong well from what he said there are several wells on the property. Just the way he talked about it and the way LE really didn't want to investigate the information received seemed odd. It was and is rural area and why would the Sheriff want to add bodies to the unsolved files...There was speculation that when this was all happening that relatives of the Sheriff and high ranking folks in the department may have been involved. They did find parts of bodies a few years ago from the property and called it good...most of the bodies are on a adjacent property though. One of the people helping with the investigation a few years ago was to meet with a suspected person involved and simply disappeared. . He said that most of this happened in the 70's and 80's . I cant remember the name of the guy in prison or the county this all happened in. I did read newspaper clippings he had mounted on the wall regarding it Reminds me of the movie some years back where the peoples car breaks down and a truck driver takes the wife to the next town.Course she goes missing and her husband (Kurt Russell?) starts tracking her down and finally rescues her at some remote farmhouse. What movie was this, I've seen it but can't remember the name. |
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I've always wondered what short circuits in their brains that they become superpredators of the human race... I also think that summary execution is the best way to deal with them. View Quote We as a society are naive to human nature. As you become aware of history, you realize not even the most prolific serial killer in the States would make the Top 1000 most sadistic list from history. At one point, a group sat some 20k of their enemies on pointed, greased tree stumps and waited for the stump to slide up their enemies bodies until they died. |
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What movie was this, I've seen it but can't remember the name. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Took a class from a well known fugitive recovery agent and former LE a year or so back. He told me during lunch about what he and another well known fugitive recovery agent have been working with a convicted murder and family members of the missing for several years...murder victims. They have made it on the news several time years ago on this. Supposedly there where 4 or 5 (and the convicted murder was one of them) guys that would try to out do each other in murder and how they killed there vics and how many they killed. Spanning I think 20+ years. Well over hundred victims. They would kidnap prostitutes, homeless, runaways or stranded motorists near there out in the middle of nowhere area. they would also go to AZ and NV and kidnap folks from truck stops and bring them to a rural property and kill them in front of the other members of this (club).Supposedly the county its in located in "CA" they have intel that a lot of bodies are down a old covered well on a adjacent property which was searched a few years back. They dug up the wrong well from what he said there are several wells on the property. Just the way he talked about it and the way LE really didn't want to investigate the information received seemed odd. It was and is rural area and why would the Sheriff want to add bodies to the unsolved files...There was speculation that when this was all happening that relatives of the Sheriff and high ranking folks in the department may have been involved. They did find parts of bodies a few years ago from the property and called it good...most of the bodies are on a adjacent property though. One of the people helping with the investigation a few years ago was to meet with a suspected person involved and simply disappeared. . He said that most of this happened in the 70's and 80's . I cant remember the name of the guy in prison or the county this all happened in. I did read newspaper clippings he had mounted on the wall regarding it Reminds me of the movie some years back where the peoples car breaks down and a truck driver takes the wife to the next town.Course she goes missing and her husband (Kurt Russell?) starts tracking her down and finally rescues her at some remote farmhouse. What movie was this, I've seen it but can't remember the name. "Breakdown" from 1997. And it was Kurt Russell. There was another one I vaguely remember about a truck driver.Black tractor with tinted windows and kids would disappear when it was around.Guy would go all over the country kidnapping and killing kids.Also at a rural farm type location,and at the end you could see lots and lots of small graves on the property. Can't remember if it was a movie,tv show or Twilight Zone show. Watching it you can't help but realize that it happens in real life......... |
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Quoted: We as a society are naive to human nature. As you become aware of history, you realize not even the most prolific serial killer in the States would make the Top 1000 most sadistic list from history. At one point, a group sat some 20k of their enemies on pointed, greased tree stumps and waited for the stump to slide up their enemies bodies until they died. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've always wondered what short circuits in their brains that they become superpredators of the human race... I also think that summary execution is the best way to deal with them. We as a society are naive to human nature. As you become aware of history, you realize not even the most prolific serial killer in the States would make the Top 1000 most sadistic list from history. At one point, a group sat some 20k of their enemies on pointed, greased tree stumps and waited for the stump to slide up their enemies bodies until they died. What the Nazis did is still the most chilling chapter of human history. It was not the sheer volume of deaths as China and the USSR have them beat on that count. It was the mechanical, assembly line fashion they did it in that's so unsettling. The numbers they tattooed on the arms of people as if they were inventory, industrial sized gas chambers, the furnaces, the record keeping. |
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Quoted: And it's a shitty explanation and a shitty comment to make. Any large population will have its share of bad people in it. But to come out with a comment like that shows a total lack of respect for the site and its members. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's his screen name? What in the blue fuck is wrong with you? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's been explained. And it's a shitty explanation and a shitty comment to make. Any large population will have its share of bad people in it. But to come out with a comment like that shows a total lack of respect for the site and its members. Not all my jokes are funny, and I'm okay with that. Even if they piss people off. Actually, that kind of makes them hilarious! |
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"Breakdown" from 1997. And it was Kurt Russell. There was another one I vaguely remember about a truck driver.Black tractor with tinted windows and kids would disappear when it was around.Guy would go all over the country kidnapping and killing kids.Also at a rural farm type location,and at the end you could see lots and lots of small graves on the property. Can't remember if it was a movie,tv show or Twilight Zone show. Watching it you can't help but realize that it happens in real life......... View Quote Suspect Zero |
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Evil may indeed walk among us, but it's Stupid that's going to do us in.
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And it's a shitty explanation and a shitty comment to make. Any large population will have its share of bad people in it. But to come out with a comment like that shows a total lack of respect for the site and its members. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's his screen name? What in the blue fuck is wrong with you? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That's been explained. And it's a shitty explanation and a shitty comment to make. Any large population will have its share of bad people in it. But to come out with a comment like that shows a total lack of respect for the site and its members. The number of members here I have any respect for is a VERY tiny minority. Another small number of them belong in the nuthouse. |
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What the Nazis did is still the most chilling chapter of human history. It was not the sheer volume of deaths as China and the USSR have them beat on that count. It was the mechanical, assembly line fashion they did it in that's so unsettling. The numbers they tattooed on the arms of people as if they were inventory, industrial sized gas chambers, the furnaces, the record keeping. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've always wondered what short circuits in their brains that they become superpredators of the human race... I also think that summary execution is the best way to deal with them. We as a society are naive to human nature. As you become aware of history, you realize not even the most prolific serial killer in the States would make the Top 1000 most sadistic list from history. At one point, a group sat some 20k of their enemies on pointed, greased tree stumps and waited for the stump to slide up their enemies bodies until they died. What the Nazis did is still the most chilling chapter of human history. It was not the sheer volume of deaths as China and the USSR have them beat on that count. It was the mechanical, assembly line fashion they did it in that's so unsettling. The numbers they tattooed on the arms of people as if they were inventory, industrial sized gas chambers, the furnaces, the record keeping. Germans as a culture are known for efficiency. |
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Suspect Zero is the correct answer for the truck that travels the country, and yeah I saw someone beat me to answering that questions.
The movie "poker night" has some interesting stuff in it that made me think a whole lot more about what roams around free in this world. I know actual books are old fashioned and what not but used book stores near colleges should have a ton of interesting reading from the criminal justice courses. This is a subject where the more you know the more you might realize how smart some people are to never venture out of mom's basement into the sunlight. And if you do not look around at people in public as you go about your business and wonder about those people, you are odd in my opinion. When I first got my ccw I was always looking to see who noticed I was carrying, had that paranoia about the handgun printing all the time. As I looked at people who were not looking at me I started noticing other people, some had cell phones on their belt but more than a few had a ccw and did not care a bit about printing. Now and then someone was open carrying but doing alright at not making a big deal about it. With all the threads in general discussion on this and that I got wondering more and more about people. I have yet to see a tyrannosaurus rex shopping in the meat department but I admit to looking around to see if there is one. |
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