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Posted: 4/29/2016 10:41:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only a complete idiot would think that is constitutional in any way shape or form  Can kalifornia secede, I wouldn't fight to keep themAnthony Scalia thought that such STATE LEVEL restrictions were constitutional. |
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Posted: 4/29/2016 10:37:57 PM EDT
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Anthony Scalia thought that such STATE LEVEL restrictions were constitutional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only a complete idiot would think that is constitutional in any way shape or form Can kalifornia secede, I wouldn't fight to keep themAnthony Scalia thought that such STATE LEVEL restrictions were constitutional. And they are, if we're going to be honest about what the 14th Amendment says and does. The wording, original understanding and intent, and legislative history does not lend itself well to the support of incorporation doctrine. I was never entirely sure of Scalia's true beliefs on such matters, though. |
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Posted: 4/29/2016 10:39:12 PM EDT
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10/30 mags still good, I imagine?
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Posted: 4/29/2016 10:41:23 PM EDT
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Immigration did this. California was a thoroughly Republican state before Reagan's amnesty.
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Posted: 4/29/2016 10:42:42 PM EDT
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The plan to break up California into 6 states needs to happen.
Give the libtards the big hellhole cities and give the good folks freedom again. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 2:29:55 AM EDT
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A beautiful state with loads of shitty people. I'll be ready to leave when I graduate. It almost seems worth it to take time off school, put your loans in deferment, establish residency in a free state, transfer your credits and finish somewhere else. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 2:39:57 AM EDT
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Immigration did this. California was a thoroughly Republican state before Reagan's amnesty. First it was the migration of mostly Leftist people from the Midwest and Northeast. They started affecting things here before the Mexicans could have a big political impact. The Mexican effect came later. SCOTUS also played a big role during the Warren days, especially via the Reapportionment Cases. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 2:41:29 AM EDT
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The plan to break up California into 6 states needs to happen. Give the libtards the big hellhole cities and give the good folks freedom again. Restoring our old Senate arrangement and some State level federalism, plus requiring a double majority a la Swiss plebiscites would go a huge way towards making the system better, without breaking up the State. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 11:41:51 AM EDT
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The initiative will be defeated in the election by a substantial margin. People here almost never vote for tax increases or anything else that could cost them money, other than the idiots they keep electing. Gavin Newsom's cronies put it up just to get press for his upcoming run for governor. It's a laundry list of crap that is too radical even for the legislature to pass, and things that Moonbeam has vetoed. Several million dollars were spent gathering signatures. I was hoping that someone would ask me to sign it, but that never happened. I wish I could share your optimism. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 11:44:50 AM EDT
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How California goes, so does the rest of the nation.....not at the federal level but in local and state initiatives such as this one.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:31:15 PM EDT
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How California goes, so does the rest of the nation.....not at the federal level but in local and state initiatives such as this one. This is the first gun related ballot initiative I can remover in California. I think they to the idea from Oregon. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:34:09 PM EDT
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Gavin Newsroom's ballot initiative to require ammo purchase permits, and ban the simple possession of magazines holding over 10 rounds, has enough signatures to qualify for the November ballot. Idiot California voters are very likely to approve it. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-poli-lt-gov-newsom-says-he-has-enough-signatures-for-1461883858-htmlstory.html ill be surprised if they don't approve every bit of it. 
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:42:23 PM EDT
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This is the first gun related ballot initiative I can remover in California. I think they to the idea from Oregon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How California goes, so does the rest of the nation.....not at the federal level but in local and state initiatives such as this one. This is the first gun related ballot initiative I can remover in California. I think they to the idea from Oregon. I keep thinking that they tried once or twice in the past,, but couldn't get anything on the ballot before. A lot of the stuff in the initiative and then some is in the legislature and I believe most or all of it made it out of committee. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:43:44 PM EDT
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The plan to break up California into 6 states needs to happen. Give the libtards the big hellhole cities and give the good folks freedom again. And add 10 more leftist senators? No thanks. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:44:38 PM EDT
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Wall off that cesspool of a state.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:47:28 PM EDT
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We could also stop giving gun grabbers $$$$. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1848675_Meet_the_California_Senate_Candidate_that_Donald_J_Trump_supports_.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kommiefornia has been a lost cause for a long long time  True, and ditto Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey in many respects. The question we need to be asking ourselves is "how do we keep the disease from spreading?" Shut down 90% of universities for one We could also stop giving gun grabbers $$$$. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1848675_Meet_the_California_Senate_Candidate_that_Donald_J_Trump_supports_.html BURNNNNN!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:51:19 PM EDT
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And add 10 more leftist senators? No thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The plan to break up California into 6 states needs to happen. Give the libtards the big hellhole cities and give the good folks freedom again. And add 10 more leftist senators? No thanks. The idea would be to add two leftist senators and four conservatives. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:52:11 PM EDT
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I like rope.
I like lampposts. Not all that favorable towards Politicians. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:53:17 PM EDT
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True, and ditto Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey in many respects. The question we need to be asking ourselves is "how do we keep the disease from spreading?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kommiefornia has been a lost cause for a long long time True, and ditto Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey in many respects. The question we need to be asking ourselves is "how do we keep the disease from spreading?" Well 8 of 50 states have some sort of excessive arbitrary restrictions. That's 16% so far. If 16% of your body was infected,would you say that the disease has already spread? |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:54:51 PM EDT
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What else can they liberal CA complain about ? If they cant talk guns ,racism, LBGT what have they got ? Not a fucking thing . They can go fuck themselves . COC prevents anything further.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:56:34 PM EDT
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True, and ditto Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey in many respects. The question we need to be asking ourselves is "how do we keep the disease from spreading?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kommiefornia has been a lost cause for a long long time True, and ditto Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey in many respects. The question we need to be asking ourselves is "how do we keep the disease from spreading?" All of us know the answer to the obvious question |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 12:58:30 PM EDT
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Only a complete idiot would think that is constitutional in any way shape or form Can kalifornia secede, I wouldn't fight to keep themAntonin Scalia agrees with you. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:02:29 PM EDT
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Kommiefornia has been a lost cause for a long long time For anyone who cares, California had a full handgun ban on the ballots back in the 1980's there is even a file on that little ballot misadventure at the NRAHQ. Some of the information might actually be in the interwebs. Here is some information about Prop. 15. California may now be lost but it was not always so. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:03:54 PM EDT
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the voting libtards of CA will happily vote to shit in the U.S. Constitution.  They thought the same think back in 1982, then Prop 15 failed. I still have some hope for my friends and family who live there. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:04:38 PM EDT
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Break it up into two states, Jefferson and kommieland. Then lets see. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kommiefornia has been a lost cause for a long long time Fuck that, that just creates two more Liberal US senators. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:05:35 PM EDT
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The plan to break up California into 6 states needs to happen. Give the libtards the big hellhole cities and give the good folks freedom again. No no and fuck no. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:06:11 PM EDT
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Wow only takes 600k voters to make a decision in comifornia? Something is fucked up right there. Those 600k voters are all of the Scientologist there and not the people that live in the state. Hell 600k is how much of a percentage of LA? This just adds t a reason to never fucking move there. ETA: Any theft of a firearm should be a felony no matter the price. I wonder if all 600K are sucking O2, they may have used a lot of "voters" to get that number. 
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:07:08 PM EDT
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Restoring our old Senate arrangement and some State level federalism, plus requiring a double majority a la Swiss plebiscites would go a huge way towards making the system better, without breaking up the State. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The plan to break up California into 6 states needs to happen. Give the libtards the big hellhole cities and give the good folks freedom again. Restoring our old Senate arrangement and some State level federalism, plus requiring a double majority a la Swiss plebiscites would go a huge way towards making the system better, without breaking up the State. You must have a medical marijuana card, either that or you living in a fairy tale. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:07:19 PM EDT
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Once again: I don't suggest an insurgency, but I'd understand.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:07:56 PM EDT
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This is the first gun related ballot initiative I can remover in California. I think they to the idea from Oregon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How California goes, so does the rest of the nation.....not at the federal level but in local and state initiatives such as this one. This is the first gun related ballot initiative I can remover in California. I think they to the idea from Oregon. NOOO., Prop 15 in California in 1982. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:24:40 PM EDT
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If an initiative doesn't test at 65% before it hits (qualifies for) the ballot it usually fails.
A friend who worked on initiatives in CA told me this. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:28:09 PM EDT
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Something foul, wretched, and wicked this way comes.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:29:33 PM EDT
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If an initiative doesn't test at 65% before it hits the ballot it usually fails. A friend who worked on initiatives in CA told me this. This year has been a year of firsts all across the country. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:30:49 PM EDT
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Better we get a chance to vote against it then legislators forcing it upon us like everything else. Hopefully it fails big time, sending a message. If not, time to pack my bags.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:35:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the first gun related ballot initiative I can remover in California. I think they to the idea from Oregon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How California goes, so does the rest of the nation.....not at the federal level but in local and state initiatives such as this one. This is the first gun related ballot initiative I can remover in California. I think they to the idea from Oregon. As noted by lostnswv there was an initiative to register all handguns (aimed at pre-1968 guns because we've had handgun registration since then) and to ban new ones as of a certain date - Proposition 15 on the 1982 November ballot. It was defeated 62.8% to 37.2%. https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_15,_Handgun_Registration_Initiative_%281982%29 For the Voter Information on that one, start at page 59 at http://repository.uchastings.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1916&context=ca_ballot_props That is why I am optimistic about the chances for defeating the mish-mash initiative this year. There will be some people who would happily ban detachable-magazine semiautomatics, but some of them will be put off by the ammunition purchase restrictions and license requirement. If EVERY SINGLE PERSON who owns a legal, grandfathered >10 round magazine just gets out and votes NO, that alone could be enough to take it down. There are millions of us. Even people who ILLEGALLY own >10 rounders should be motivated to vote NO, because the initiative would make it a crime to possess them. Now it's very difficult to get charged with anything, because of the fact that legal ones exist. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:40:18 PM EDT
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My aura smiles and never frowns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am Governor Jerry Brown My aura smiles and never frowns. I am Governor Jerry Brown My aura smiles And never frowns Soon I will be president... |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:44:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2016 1:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI agree. Getting all the leftists to move back East is a good idea. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:01:43 PM EDT
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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL......CA deserves exactly what they're getting. Liberal fucks. If every eligible voter would register and vote, maybe change could come. Too many people think their vote doesn't matter. Now, If you'll excuse me, I'm going to buy 10 more PSA $6.99 30 round AR mags from the email I just got from them.
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL......CA deserves exactly what they're getting. Liberal fucks. If every eligible voter would register and vote, maybe change could come. Too many people think their vote doesn't matter. Now, If you'll excuse me, I'm going to buy 10 more PSA $6.99 30 round AR mags from the email I just got from them. Why are you happy fellow gun owners have the possibility of getting screwed? Its like you are glad about this. I care about your gun rights as much as you care about mine. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:09:20 PM EDT
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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL......CA deserves exactly what they're getting. Liberal fucks. If every eligible voter would register and vote, maybe change could come. Too many people think their vote doesn't matter. Now, If you'll excuse me, I'm going to buy 10 more PSA $6.99 30 round AR mags from the email I just got from them. Buy it while you can before the initiative from California makes it's way up north. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:11:59 PM EDT
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Another gun grabber supported by Diddlin' Donald!
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:15:36 PM EDT
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Guess what he's doing ! |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:20:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only a complete idiot would think that is constitutional in any way shape or form |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:22:18 PM EDT
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Ivanka Trump supports Newsom
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:22:24 PM EDT
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Are California Latino voters pro-RKBA?
What else is on the ballot? No doubt something urgent to get Democrats to the voting booth, and while they're voting will vote anti-RKBA. http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/04/25/democrats-have-surge-in-voter-registration-in-california/ |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:31:10 PM EDT
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Ivanka Trump supports Newsom You don't understand how business works. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:31:34 PM EDT
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You must have a medical marijuana card, either that or you living in a fairy tale. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The plan to break up California into 6 states needs to happen. Give the libtards the big hellhole cities and give the good folks freedom again. Restoring our old Senate arrangement and some State level federalism, plus requiring a double majority a la Swiss plebiscites would go a huge way towards making the system better, without breaking up the State. You must have a medical marijuana card, either that or you living in a fairy tale. I never said it was even remotely feasible. |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:33:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://www.trbimg.com/img-56c6770f/turbine/la-me-pol-ca-opposition-campaign-gavin-newsom--001/750/750x422 Guess what he's doing !  |
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Posted: 5/1/2016 2:38:49 PM EDT
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Are California Latino voters pro-RKBA?
What else is on the ballot? No doubt something urgent to get Democrats to the voting booth, and while they're voting will vote anti-RKBA. http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/04/25/democrats-have-surge-in-voter-registration-in-california/ We now give illegals drivers licenses. We have "motor voter" that allows for voter registration when a DL is issued. Coincidence? Yeah, probably.
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