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Posted: 4/15/2016 8:04:13 PM EDT
What are some unique (non ar) current production semi auto rifles out there? (Preferably in a rifle caliber)
Edit to add: preferably in the sub $3k range

That I can think of:
SCAR
ACR
XCR
MUR  MCX (yeah, it's kind of an ar)
MAR
AUG
PS90
BREN (CZ) 805
...

What else?
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:10:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Sig MCX
Sig 556R
Sig 556xi
Tavor
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:11:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Galil ACE
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:13:49 PM EDT
[#3]
FS2000
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:14:58 PM EDT
[#4]
M14
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:15:33 PM EDT
[#5]
X95
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:16:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Su-16

Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:17:04 PM EDT
[#7]
CMMG Mutant isn't really an AR.



Also, supposedly there's a StG 44 repro coming out.  Somebody's making an FG42 as well.

















 
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:17:40 PM EDT
[#8]
AK47/AK74
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:21:53 PM EDT
[#9]
PTR91
SIG 556
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:22:56 PM EDT
[#10]
That new Berretta rifle looks cool
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:23:00 PM EDT
[#11]
FNAR
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:23:24 PM EDT
[#12]
M-1A
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:26:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Hahah the semi auto FN249.
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:28:18 PM EDT
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I don't know why, but I really want one of those.

Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:38:42 PM EDT
[#15]
Faxon Arak 21 is a cool design.  Mine runs like a top.
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:42:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:43:55 PM EDT
[#17]
SCR
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:51:00 PM EDT
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CMMG Mutant isn't really an AR.

Also, supposedly there's a StG 44 repro coming out.  Somebody's making an FG42 as well.


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Drooling over the latter two, unfortunately they won't be under 3K.  


ACR *could* have been a really good gun, but the execution has been pretty botched.  I haven't payed too much attention in a year or 2, but the support for upgrades, barrels, and the caliber conversions have been really bad.  The base gun is too heavy and front heavy too.  Better with a light profile barrel trimming the weight down quite a bit, but keep the additional expense in mind.  I think Remington is still guarding their improvements and not selling them.  

Link Posted: 4/15/2016 8:56:10 PM EDT
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I don't know why, but I really want one of those.



It's just a Browning/Winchester with a "tacticool" look.

 
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 9:02:34 PM EDT
[#20]
Still made just not imported anymore.









Daewoo K2




It is an AR/AK/FAL love child.
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 9:06:42 PM EDT
[#21]
M-1 carbine
M-1 garand
BAR


Link Posted: 4/17/2016 11:35:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Thanks for the replies.  Looking for something different as a post deployment rifle.

So far it's between a mcx, scar, and a bren 805.
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So far it's between a mcx, scar, and a bren 805.
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Only get the H.

L is not worth it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 11:48:46 AM EDT
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Why do they all have to be so fucking expensive?
Maybe I'm just used to the affordability of ARs.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 11:55:34 AM EDT
[#25]
B&T APC-556



Piston driven, multiple barrel length and stock options, nice 4.4lb 2-stage trigger, hydraulic buffer to soften the recoil.  Grip is questionable.




About $2k.






















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Wanted one real bad, until I researched the take down and cleaning.
Had to settle for a SIG 716.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 12:56:53 PM EDT
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Too many ARs across a broad spectrum of costs. Just looking for something different.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 1:24:51 PM EDT
[#28]
Robinson Arms XCR
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I don't know why, but I really want one of those.

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I don't know why, but I really want one of those.



yeah, I've thought about one as well.
they are pretty cool, and FN makes good stuff.
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yeah, I've thought about one as well.

they are pretty cool, and FN makes good stuff.
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I don't know why, but I really want one of those.







yeah, I've thought about one as well.

they are pretty cool, and FN makes good stuff.
FN doesn't make it.



It is a rebranded Winchester SXAR, which is a Browning BAR.










If you've ever taken one apart you'll go nuts.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 4:49:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Zastava PAP M90NP

Is AK that shoot AR bullet

Is also having variable gas settings, from 1 to 3

Is having a mag adapter to take all AR mags

Is having also 14x1 LH threads, so remember friend: Lefty tighty, righty loosey
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Zero or little R&D costs, high supply.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 5:57:29 PM EDT
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Drooling over the latter two, unfortunately they won't be under 3K.  





ACR *could* have been a really good gun, but the execution has been pretty botched.  I haven't payed too much attention in a year or 2, but the support for upgrades, barrels, and the caliber conversions have been really bad.  The base gun is too heavy and front heavy too.  Better with a light profile barrel trimming the weight down quite a bit, but keep the additional expense in mind.  I think Remington is still guarding their improvements and not selling them.  



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CMMG Mutant isn't really an AR.



Also, supposedly there's a StG 44 repro coming out.  Somebody's making an FG42 as well.









Drooling over the latter two, unfortunately they won't be under 3K.  





ACR *could* have been a really good gun, but the execution has been pretty botched.  I haven't payed too much attention in a year or 2, but the support for upgrades, barrels, and the caliber conversions have been really bad.  The base gun is too heavy and front heavy too.  Better with a light profile barrel trimming the weight down quite a bit, but keep the additional expense in mind.  I think Remington is still guarding their improvements and not selling them.  







 
I thought the StG was advertised in the $1800 ish range.  Can't remember who is doing it, but its the guys who did the Cetme L on the kits that came in last (?) year.




I want one, but not bad enough to prepay nearly 2K on a gamble.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:01:48 PM EDT
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Still made just not imported anymore.



https://i.imgur.com/k24Wb2x.jpg
Daewoo K2





It is an AR/AK/FAL love child.

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Damn you!




Rub my nose in it why don't you!




(What kind of rail set up is that?)
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:03:11 PM EDT
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I think those are like, 1 million dollars.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:04:08 PM EDT
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Mini-14/Mini-30 sounds like it fits the criteria.

i know they don't get much love, but they really are solid rifles.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:04:38 PM EDT
[#38]
I think I'm about to order a CZ Bren 805 Carbine in FDE.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:09:37 PM EDT
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FN doesn't make it.

It is a rebranded Winchester SXAR, which is a Browning BAR.


http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo64/hoghunter247/IMG_2244.jpg



If you've ever taken one apart you'll go nuts.
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I don't know why, but I really want one of those.



yeah, I've thought about one as well.
they are pretty cool, and FN makes good stuff.
FN doesn't make it.

It is a rebranded Winchester SXAR, which is a Browning BAR.


http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo64/hoghunter247/IMG_2244.jpg



If you've ever taken one apart you'll go nuts.


that makes sense.
I've always thought the BAR was a cool rifle.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:11:21 PM EDT
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Damn you!





Rub my nose in it why don't you!





(What kind of rail set up is that?)

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Still made just not imported anymore.



https://i.imgur.com/k24Wb2x.jpg
Daewoo K2





It is an AR/AK/FAL love child.



 



Damn you!





Rub my nose in it why don't you!





(What kind of rail set up is that?)

Stormwerks

 
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:14:40 PM EDT
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  I thought the StG was advertised in the $1800 ish range.  Can't remember who is doing it, but its the guys who did the Cetme L on the kits that came in last (?) year.


I want one, but not bad enough to prepay nearly 2K on a gamble.
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CMMG Mutant isn't really an AR.

Also, supposedly there's a StG 44 repro coming out.  Somebody's making an FG42 as well.




Drooling over the latter two, unfortunately they won't be under 3K.  


ACR *could* have been a really good gun, but the execution has been pretty botched.  I haven't payed too much attention in a year or 2, but the support for upgrades, barrels, and the caliber conversions have been really bad.  The base gun is too heavy and front heavy too.  Better with a light profile barrel trimming the weight down quite a bit, but keep the additional expense in mind.  I think Remington is still guarding their improvements and not selling them.  


  I thought the StG was advertised in the $1800 ish range.  Can't remember who is doing it, but its the guys who did the Cetme L on the kits that came in last (?) year.


I want one, but not bad enough to prepay nearly 2K on a gamble.


$1800?  

I'd be all over that.  Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe it was someone else who was working on it too.  Was it these guys?
https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-standard-length-223/

That's been a dream gun to own since I was a kid.  I have a nice chunk of change coming back from my tax return, I might do that.  
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that makes sense.

I've always thought the BAR was a cool rifle.
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I've worked on enough BARs to never want one. I could've gotten a FNAR for $600 and passed for a number of reasons. The biggest is mags. They aren't SCAR H nor FAL mags. They're their own thing. And FN's history of leaving customers high and dry is nothing new. The FN FortyNine, FNP 9/40, and FNP 45 are recent examples. All three designs were seperate mags deaigns and all dumped within a small amount of time.

 



I ditched my FNP 45 for a G21 and never looked back.
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that makes sense.
I've always thought the BAR was a cool rifle.
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I don't know why, but I really want one of those.



yeah, I've thought about one as well.
they are pretty cool, and FN makes good stuff.
FN doesn't make it.

It is a rebranded Winchester SXAR, which is a Browning BAR.


http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo64/hoghunter247/IMG_2244.jpg



If you've ever taken one apart you'll go nuts.


that makes sense.
I've always thought the BAR was a cool rifle.



magazines are cray cray expensive, if you can find them.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:19:01 PM EDT
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I think might get a JR Carbine
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$1800?  



I'd be all over that.  Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe it was someone else who was working on it too.  Was it these guys?

https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-standard-length-223/



That's been a dream gun to own since I was a kid.  I have a nice chunk of change coming back from my tax return, I might do that.  
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CMMG Mutant isn't really an AR.



Also, supposedly there's a StG 44 repro coming out.  Somebody's making an FG42 as well.









Drooling over the latter two, unfortunately they won't be under 3K.  





ACR *could* have been a really good gun, but the execution has been pretty botched.  I haven't payed too much attention in a year or 2, but the support for upgrades, barrels, and the caliber conversions have been really bad.  The base gun is too heavy and front heavy too.  Better with a light profile barrel trimming the weight down quite a bit, but keep the additional expense in mind.  I think Remington is still guarding their improvements and not selling them.  





  I thought the StG was advertised in the $1800 ish range.  Can't remember who is doing it, but its the guys who did the Cetme L on the kits that came in last (?) year.





I want one, but not bad enough to prepay nearly 2K on a gamble.





$1800?  



I'd be all over that.  Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe it was someone else who was working on it too.  Was it these guys?

https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-standard-length-223/



That's been a dream gun to own since I was a kid.  I have a nice chunk of change coming back from my tax return, I might do that.  




 



Yeah, that's the one.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:26:16 PM EDT
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Beretta ARX100
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Robinson Arms XCR
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Nice Gr8! The new, low profile gas block has me interested in the XCR again.

Is yours .556 or .300 blk? What's the barrel length?

Does anyone have a pic of the 15" rail version Robinson is calling the 3 Gunner?
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I think those are like, 1 million dollars.
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I think those are like, 1 million dollars.


Oh it's not that pricey. But anytime you are talking about milled components and 30-06 caliber. It's gonna cost you.

I handled one at the last gun show I went to. I can't describe how awesome it was just to hold it. I can't imagine a gun that screams. "America, fuck yeah." More than an HCAR.
Link Posted: 4/17/2016 6:35:50 PM EDT
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Noreen BN line.
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Yeah, that's the one.
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CMMG Mutant isn't really an AR.

Also, supposedly there's a StG 44 repro coming out.  Somebody's making an FG42 as well.




Drooling over the latter two, unfortunately they won't be under 3K.  


ACR *could* have been a really good gun, but the execution has been pretty botched.  I haven't payed too much attention in a year or 2, but the support for upgrades, barrels, and the caliber conversions have been really bad.  The base gun is too heavy and front heavy too.  Better with a light profile barrel trimming the weight down quite a bit, but keep the additional expense in mind.  I think Remington is still guarding their improvements and not selling them.  


  I thought the StG was advertised in the $1800 ish range.  Can't remember who is doing it, but its the guys who did the Cetme L on the kits that came in last (?) year.


I want one, but not bad enough to prepay nearly 2K on a gamble.


$1800?  

I'd be all over that.  Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe it was someone else who was working on it too.  Was it these guys?
https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-standard-length-223/

That's been a dream gun to own since I was a kid.  I have a nice chunk of change coming back from my tax return, I might do that.  

 

Yeah, that's the one.


And I thought I had convinced myself to bank most of the tax return.  Damn this site.  

Still have an 18" I'm building, not much expense there except the optics.  Doing both is a bigger dent.
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