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Posted: 4/14/2016 1:22:58 PM EDT
The wall is needed on our southern border for security just as much as a physical barrier to illegals but when the left insists we cannot deport 11 million people they might be right.
News crews would be getting tipped to deportations where families will be literally split apart from one another.


Bad visuals would kill that in a heart beat.







Hell half of ARFCOM wanted blood when they deported that little kid back to Cuba







So the answers lays else where.


What is so little talked about but is the answer is self deportation of the 11 million illegals.







How you ask?







A strong E verification system where all present , future employees are E verified


No verification you get no work.


Any employer who breaks this law opens themselves to a felony charge and 5 years in federal prison and a $250K fine per illegal.


Who is going to risk 5 years in federal prison to hire an illegal?







So tell me where this doesn't work and why don't the GOP talk about this?


It got a passing mention early on but has been dropped from talking points.        


 
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:27:14 PM EDT
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Actually the answer to the illegals problem is (CoC violation) for our elected officials.  We need to figure out how to get rid of those 535 assholes first, they fuck us way harder than even 50 million illegals.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:34:07 PM EDT
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I thought this was going to be a Pink Floyd thread...
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:44:09 PM EDT
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Heavily penalize those who have a reasonable suspicion of knowingly hiring an illegal. No demand means no reason to come here and no reason for a wall. Problem solved. Washington and the Chamber of Commerce have no desire to implement this of course.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:44:10 PM EDT
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This thread just got 10 ft taller.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:48:24 PM EDT
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"Would you like to send our colored cousins home again, my friend? All you need to do is follow the worms."




It would work OP. Make it difficult to receive benefits/jobs and they'll self-deport on their own. Obviously not everyone will leave. Some would remain using forged papers, but for the most part  illegals would have to operate more underground than they are now.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:53:26 PM EDT
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Me too. Going to fire some up on my commute home now

Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:55:40 PM EDT
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That was my hope. I'm a little disappointed.
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That was my hope. I'm a little disappointed.


Me too man
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 1:56:57 PM EDT
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".....Mother did it need to be so high?"





 
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:10:45 PM EDT
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The wall is needed on our southern border for security just as much as a physical barrier to illegals but when the left insists we cannot deport 11 million people they might be right.News crews would be getting tipped to deportations where families will be literally split apart from one another.


Bad visuals would kill that in a heart beat.
Hell half of ARFCOM wanted blood when they deported that little kid back to Cuba
So the answers lays else where.


What is so little talked about but is the answer is self deportation of the 11 million illegals.
How you ask?
A strong E verification system where all present , future employees are E verified


No verification you get no work.


Any employer who breaks this law opens themselves to a felony charge and 5 years in federal prison and a $250K fine per illegal.


Who is going to risk 5 years in federal prison to hire an illegal?
So tell me where this doesn't work and why don't the GOP talk about this?


It got a passing mention early on but has been dropped from talking points.        


 
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There is ALREADY a Federal system in place, with penalties for ANY employer that hires an illegal alien.





It's called a I-9, and related to the E-verify system now in place.





Here





The problem is that the present administration does not enforce it, even though it works.





OTOH, when the fucking kenyon fails the E-Verify test, the whole system looks pretty stupid.





We are just fooked.








ETA - from the I-9 instructions




PP  Purpose:

This information is collected by employers to comply with the requirements of the Immigration Reform and

Control Act of 1986. This law requires that employers verify the identity and employment authorization of individuals

they hire for employment to preclude the unlawful hiring, or recruiting or referring for a fee, of aliens who are not
authorized to work in the United States





 
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:11:23 PM EDT
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Me too
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:20:12 PM EDT
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Dems like free votes and Republicans like cheap labor. The wall and mass deportations will never happen, not even if Trump gets elected. Not even we got rid of every sitting member of congress.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:21:39 PM EDT
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jrzy, this is the most intelligent thing I have ever seen you post.  

+1 ARF-Cred to you
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:24:43 PM EDT
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Anyone arrested of a crime...any crime..a ticket. If they're here illegally deport them ASAP.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:41:36 PM EDT
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There is ALREADY a Federal system in place, with penalties for ANY employer that hires an illegal alien.



It's called a I-9, and related to the E-verify system now in place.



Here



The problem is that the present administration does not enforce it, even though it works.



OTOH, when the fucking kenyon fails the E-Verify test, the whole system looks pretty stupid.



We are just fooked.





ETA - from the I-9 instructions



PP  Purpose:

This information is collected by employers to comply with the requirements of the Immigration Reform and

Control Act of 1986. This law requires that employers verify the identity and employment authorization of individuals

they hire for employment to preclude the unlawful hiring, or recruiting or referring for a fee, of aliens who are not

authorized to work in the United States

 
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The wall is needed on our southern border for security just as much as a physical barrier to illegals but when the left insists we cannot deport 11 million people they might be right.News crews would be getting tipped to deportations where families will be literally split apart from one another.

Bad visuals would kill that in a heart beat.





Hell half of ARFCOM wanted blood when they deported that little kid back to Cuba





So the answers lays else where.

What is so little talked about but is the answer is self deportation of the 11 million illegals.





How you ask?





A strong E verification system where all present , future employees are E verified

No verification you get no work.

Any employer who breaks this law opens themselves to a felony charge and 5 years in federal prison and a $250K fine per illegal.

Who is going to risk 5 years in federal prison to hire an illegal?





So tell me where this doesn't work and why don't the GOP talk about this?

It got a passing mention early on but has been dropped from talking points.        

 


There is ALREADY a Federal system in place, with penalties for ANY employer that hires an illegal alien.



It's called a I-9, and related to the E-verify system now in place.



Here



The problem is that the present administration does not enforce it, even though it works.



OTOH, when the fucking kenyon fails the E-Verify test, the whole system looks pretty stupid.



We are just fooked.





ETA - from the I-9 instructions



PP  Purpose:

This information is collected by employers to comply with the requirements of the Immigration Reform and

Control Act of 1986. This law requires that employers verify the identity and employment authorization of individuals

they hire for employment to preclude the unlawful hiring, or recruiting or referring for a fee, of aliens who are not

authorized to work in the United States

 
Yep I knew this but only if we enforce it and make it stronger with real fucking TEETH!

 
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:43:01 PM EDT
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You do what AZ did and they scatter themselves.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:44:04 PM EDT
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jrzy, this is the most intelligent thing I have ever seen you post.  



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Wow, I might have to stop busting your balls over the 13er issue

 



(actually I don't consider anyone supporting the site via a membership a 13er)
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 9:00:08 PM EDT
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Or Kansas.
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