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Posted: 2/22/2016 7:37:37 PM EDT
That's a technique, but not the preferred technique

The Shurtz’s had multiple targets set up at different ranges and were shooting at them with a high-powered rifle.

The sheriff’s office described the temporary range as east to west with targets west of the shooter.

“Father and son were alternating positions; one would shoot and the other would be downrange as a spotter.

When Glenn Shurtz was shooting, the release states, Jame Shurtz was in position downrange acting as a spotter.

“James was struck by a single round from a .30 caliber rifle,” the release states.
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Update 2/23/2016:  Looks like someone killed another the same way.

Authorities said two men were practicing long-range shooting while another man was down range marking targets for them.

There was a miscommunication and one of the target shooters hit and killed the man down range.
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Practicing Long Range Shooting Skills
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Is this real?
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wtf?


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There was another thread on it this morning.
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Fudds gonna fudd.
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Yes, did a search in Hometown and AR15.com with description, couldn't find a dupe.  Hadn't seen it mentioned, and thought it serves as a lesson for those who might be considering this approach.

That's not "spotting", at least not the way I learned to do it.
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Unfortunately, judging from the stories posted in the below thread, it's kinda common.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1838500_Craziest_thing_seen_at_a_public_range__Or_if_you_have_a_really_crazy_story_about_anything__share.html
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Yup, stupid people are indeed real.
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so did the guy not see his kid?  I mean damn looking at a target is one thing looking at a person????
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WTH
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It's one thing to be in a rifle pit where one is safe, but this is filled with WTF?
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How anyone could be this stupid?

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Sanctioned DCM matches in the 90's target setters would sit behind a earthen berm down range and replace targets as needed in between matches.  Never been shot at, but I know what a bullet flying by sounds like.
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Wind carried the round off target most likely. At long range it doesn't take much wind to blow a pill off target by a few feet.


Darwin caught another one.



 

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yup
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should have been the dad
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Jesus
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At 27 years old, the son is responsible for his own stupidity.



 
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I feel for them but the only thing going through my head right now is 'what the fuck'.
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It's one thing if they had constructed proper target pits (aka the butts) but that is just plain STUPID.
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Can you imagine taking your own child's life...
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It takes a special kind of stupid.   Even if you were doing something as retarded as spotting from down range why not be say 50+ yards to the right or left of the target.  You don't have to be 2 feet away from something to look at it.
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Jesus. That poor father. That guy has a hell of a burden to carry with him. Sucks all around.
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Sometimes you just F'up and jerk a shot.  Happens.  Also... one thing they taught me in driver's ed I always remembered - you drive where you are looking.  I think that applies to shooting too - you shoot where you are looking.  And dad probably was looking at his kid.

This sort of dumb spotting technique is more common than you think.  I've seen a guy do this with his wife once.  I was so dumbstruck that I didn't even recognize what they were doing at first.
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A few feet? How close do you need to get? Spotting scopes I bet are cheap over there he'll get a smart phone app or something.

Or and I'm not advocating this get the kid closer but well out of line with some binoculars
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Stupid.
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Dumb ass paid the price,

What could go wrong
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I recall a range with bunkers made from Railroad Ties and some dirt offset to the target by a little way, a few feet...
the Targets were large Steel Silhouettes, and kids would get to sit in the bunkers and wait for the thing to get knocked down and then run out to set it up once cease fire was called.
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Yeah that photo is dumb.  Especially with all the technology and remote camera triggers etc.....


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What is up with the guy in the yellow hats skin? Is he made of rubber?
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I venture out in that area all the time. I was out there just a couple weeks ago in fact. It's a long way to any kind of medical facility, even in a helo. I carry a TQ and some pressure dressings, but if you seriously screw up out that far, you're boned. Son might not have survived a shot to the chest even if he was closer to care... so who knows, but this stuff is in the back of my head every time I venture out there.



I was out near Kelton a few years back when a guy took a .22 rimfire ricochet to the chest while rabbit hunting in the rocks. They shut down the main road for the LifeFlight helo to land. Collapsed lung, and some blood loss, but IIRC that one lived.



Sucks for the father. Terrible.
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hey those cameras are kinda pricey.
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That looks like a poorly photo-shopped pic to me.  







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My heart goes out to the family
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How in the world?
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Guess a spotting scope was worth more than his son's and his own life.
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What in the mother f.ck?
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i read this earlier.  Just WTF.  How could anyone think this was a good idea?
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Big boy rules bruh.
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Maybe, but I don't doubt it. It's clearly not America.

I once saw a show, I believe it was some Philippine military, and they were shooting at targets held by other soldiers.
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What's the most expensive spotting scope you can buy?  

Yep, lots cheaper then your own son's life.  As a father myself, I do my damndest to instill safety in my kids, no matter the activity.
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Same guy that would run a generator in a closed attached garage.
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This is one of the worst stories I've ever read.

Love that part of Utah.....almost the middle of nowhere.  Almost. Everyone will know this family.
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Screen name?
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There are some truly stupid mother fuckers sharing the planet with us.
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