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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:23:05 PM EDT
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Businesses in neighboring states close to the border will be very busy. Their "underpaid" employees will be working overtime. Meanwhile, Oregon folks hours will shorten.
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:23:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Fucking idiots.
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:23:37 PM EDT
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Enjoy your inflation and increase in unemployment. Yep. People just suck at math. The whole country is fucked and it will be funny watching them all get theirs when the psychos they think they are helping start burning every god damn thing in sight. I can't wait. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:25:59 PM EDT
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They'll qualify for less welfare shit though, so fuck them. What seems to be happening in cities that adopted this foolishness is that people just worked fewer hours so they don't lose their .gov free shit and bennies. They don't see any improvement in their situation, but prices go up and people get fired. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:27:59 PM EDT
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Enjoy your inflation and increase in unemployment. Don't worry the gas stations there will always have jobs open, surely that will support their economy and limit any chances of homelessness from occurring. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:29:46 PM EDT
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It doesn't take effect until 2022. In my area I think it raises the min wage to something like $12.50.... I'm not up and up in economics really, what will that be worth in 2022? "By 2022, ..." I'm assuming it will either ramp up or go into effect well before then. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:30:37 PM EDT
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Geography!?
Probably the least important factor in the prevailing wage calculus. This is pure stoner logic. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:30:44 PM EDT
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I agree....but we need to split. It's not even funny how different the east side is compared to the west side. Fuck western oregon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fine by me. Let OR sink or swim with the experiment. I agree....but we need to split. It's not even funny how different the east side is compared to the west side. Fuck western oregon. 51st state initiative in northern CO was huge a few years ago |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:34:48 PM EDT
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I'll patiently await my comparable raise to differentiate my skillset that cost thousands in education and years of hard work.... oh right ...
Fuck this state... My endgame now has suddenly become... Last long enough in this shithole to see my home value skyrocket through hyperinflation. Sell high then move to Idaho or Texas and live like a king while these hippies drown in their own ideas. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:35:39 PM EDT
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Legal weed and an artificially increased minimum wage?
That's going to draw in a certain breed. I predict a crash in tax revenue and a surge in benefit payments. Just a wild ass guess. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:43:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAt $15/hr that may not be enough of a cost cutting measure. It's all in what the market can bear. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:48:35 PM EDT
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"By 2022, ..." I'm assuming it will either ramp up or go into effect well before then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It doesn't take effect until 2022. In my area I think it raises the min wage to something like $12.50.... I'm not up and up in economics really, what will that be worth in 2022? "By 2022, ..." I'm assuming it will either ramp up or go into effect well before then. It goes up every year until it reaches the maximum. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:49:39 PM EDT
[#13]
ALL ABOARD! The Loser Bus is headed to Oregon. I hope you like the influx.
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:49:52 PM EDT
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Texas gladly welcomes Oregon's successful businesses to move here. No need they can move a little east, Idaho, have lower taxes and wages. ;) |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:54:20 PM EDT
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At $15 an hour, a lot of jobs can be automated out of existence. But then the state will just pay unemployment till it is bankrupt.
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Posted: 2/19/2016 9:56:31 PM EDT
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I went to Salem and testified against this. The people who were for this are completely insane. They think that this is going to raise their quality of life, all it is going to do is make more people poor. At least you tried. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:06:47 PM EDT
[#17]
So $600 a week and $28k a year?
So now minimum wage workers make more than a New soldier in the military, if they work full time.  |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:09:24 PM EDT
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At least you tried. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went to Salem and testified against this. The people who were for this are completely insane. They think that this is going to raise their quality of life, all it is going to do is make more people poor. At least you tried. It did no good aperantly. It's a $.50 cent an hour increase every year until 2022 and it reaches $13.50 or close to that then it goes back to the CPI. It's going to screw up quite a bit. I think it will take money from education and five it to support staff in the schools. This will make our already underperforming schools worse. Seniors and people on fixed incomes won't be getting these raises yet services and goods will cost more. This will be a burden that they weren't planning on. I'm in agriculture and if is going to hurt us as well. They did away with the minor wage exemption in agriculture. If a mi kr is working piece rate they don't have to make minimum wage only what they made by the piece. This gives us incentive to hire kids under 16 in the summer. Not anymore, they aren't worth minimum wage as it is. They are still trying to get the $15 minimum wage on the ballot this year too. I am nervous that this will be passed by the FSA and libtards that go out and vote for Bernie and that bitch brown. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:13:44 PM EDT
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It did no good aperantly. It's a $.50 cent an hour increase every year until 2022 and it reaches $13.50 or close to that then it goes back to the CPI. It's going to screw up quite a bit. I think it will take money from education and five it to support staff in the schools. This will make our already underperforming schools worse. Seniors and people on fixed incomes won't be getting these raises yet services and goods will cost more. This will be a burden that they weren't planning on. I'm in agriculture and if is going to hurt us as well. They did away with the minor wage exemption in agriculture. If a mi kr is working piece rate they don't have to make minimum wage only what they made by the piece. This gives us incentive to hire kids under 16 in the summer. Not anymore, they aren't worth minimum wage as it is. They are still trying to get the $15 minimum wage on the ballot this year too. I am nervous that this will be passed by the FSA and libtards that go out and vote for Bernie and that bitch brown. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went to Salem and testified against this. The people who were for this are completely insane. They think that this is going to raise their quality of life, all it is going to do is make more people poor. At least you tried. It did no good aperantly. It's a $.50 cent an hour increase every year until 2022 and it reaches $13.50 or close to that then it goes back to the CPI. It's going to screw up quite a bit. I think it will take money from education and five it to support staff in the schools. This will make our already underperforming schools worse. Seniors and people on fixed incomes won't be getting these raises yet services and goods will cost more. This will be a burden that they weren't planning on. I'm in agriculture and if is going to hurt us as well. They did away with the minor wage exemption in agriculture. If a mi kr is working piece rate they don't have to make minimum wage only what they made by the piece. This gives us incentive to hire kids under 16 in the summer. Not anymore, they aren't worth minimum wage as it is. They are still trying to get the $15 minimum wage on the ballot this year too. I am nervous that this will be passed by the FSA and libtards that go out and vote for Bernie and that bitch brown. Yep, people on fixed incomes will be screwed the worst. More old people eating dogfood ftw. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No need they can move a little east, Idaho, have lower taxes and wages. ;) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Texas gladly welcomes Oregon's successful businesses to move here. No need they can move a little east, Idaho, have lower taxes and wages. ;) |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:21:33 PM EDT
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I agree....but we need to split. It's not even funny how different the east side is compared to the west side. Fuck western oregon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fine by me. Let OR sink or swim with the experiment. I agree....but we need to split. It's not even funny how different the east side is compared to the west side. Fuck western oregon. East/West doesn't matter. It really urban vs rural. Suburban is up in the air. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:24:48 PM EDT
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So $600 a week and $28k a year? So now minimum wage workers make more than a New soldier in the military, if they work full time. Democrats value them more. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:26:04 PM EDT
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I went on a minor rant in the other OR minimum wage thread from last night, but can't muster the energy for that right now.
Too soon after WORK. Suffice it to say, this state is fucking retarded. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:26:31 PM EDT
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Just think, the mass migration from California to Oregon will increase.
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:34:10 PM EDT
[#25]
I know a few people that are not worth half of that minimum wage.
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:36:15 PM EDT
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i don't give a fuck, some people just aren't worth $13- $15 / hour  You could put Warren Buffett in a position that can't justify 15 bucks an hour, same difference. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:40:01 PM EDT
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The worst part is how many of the Californians moving up here actually have a fair amount of money. For instance it's largely out-of-state transplants driving the insane Portland housing boom right now.
They cash-out in Cali, come up here to buy "cheap", and then promptly start advocating for the exact same shit that made Cali "too expensive" for them.
[Standing in front of a bungalow that just sold for $350K cash] "Oh, yeah, we just bought the place. My husband works for a startup downtown. We just couldn't stand the taxes and the traffic in California anymore so we sold our house there for, like, $800,000. We're really blessed. It's so nice being so close to the MAX! Did you catch the debate last night? Bernie was on fire!" Fuck off. ETA: LOL. Post 666. I'm so blessed. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:45:22 PM EDT
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The worst part is how many of the Californians moving up here actually have a fair amount of money. For instance it's largely out-of-state transplants driving the insane Portland housing boom right now. They cash-out in Cali, come up here to buy "cheap", and then promptly start advocating for the exact same shit that made Cali "too expensive" for them.
[Standing in front of a bungalow that just sold for $350K cash] "Oh, yeah, we just bought the place. My husband works for a startup downtown. We just couldn't stand the taxes and the traffic in California anymore so we sold our house there for, like, $800,000. We're really blessed. It's so nice being so close to the MAX! Did you catch the debate last night? Bernie was on fire!" Fuck off. ETA: LOL. Post 666. I'm so blessed. Bonus points for including "Fuck off" on post 666. 
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Enjoy your inflation and increase in unemployment. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:49:49 PM EDT
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It will be genuinely fascinating to see how this plays out over the next year or two. I'm not an economist and don't claim to understand the vagaries of economics. I'm curious as to whether the entire state economy will collapse and everyone will be eating out of trash cans, or if it actually does help some people out of poverty, or if two years from now nobody can tell the difference. Either way, I bet it doesn't turn out as good or bad as either side predicts. I eagerly await predictions from all sides. Speaking of which, where are ARfcom's two card carrying little snot nosed Marxists? Ah, they're probably congratulating each other and masturbating furiously over this momentous news! They'll chime in when their arms get tired. People find a way to work around road blocks. The response in Oregon will be a combination of closings, layoffs, reduced hours, cuts in benefits, hiring freezes, increased prices, and more work or trade off the books. Some businesses that want to grow will cross the river to Washington or expand eastward in Idaho. A nonuniform minimum mandatory wage sounds like an invitation to a law suit. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 10:52:53 PM EDT
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This will be interesting, Cashier at jack int the box couldn't make change the other day.
I see automation and technology replacing people. I think all the folks in Salem are smoking pot. now that it's legal. We have a huge FSA crowd here that live in Portland. Usually the three metro counties around PDX and Eugene can over ride the vote in the rest of the state. Also a huge not in my backyard crowd. Make the ports useless. Tech has been slowly leaving this state,this ought to speed things up. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:19:22 PM EDT
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Stop thinking in terms of money and start thinking in terms of work. a hamburger will always cost about 1/2 hr of work at whatever minimum wage. If you want to buy more, increase the value of your work.
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFuck the SEIU... |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:26:04 PM EDT
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It would be a PRIME TIME to be a robotics tech in Oregon. They do not know what they just started... I reckon they don't... |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:26:17 PM EDT
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Why are these liberals discriminating against people in rural areas. I thought they wanted everyone to be equal... I say $50 per hour for all.
The times we live in...
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:36:02 PM EDT
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Weren't fast food workers in SEATAC asking for fewer hours because their newfound wealth made them ineligible for certain social services? Yep. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:40:55 PM EDT
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The worst part is how many of the Californians moving up here actually have a fair amount of money. For instance it's largely out-of-state transplants driving the insane Portland housing boom right now. They cash-out in Cali, come up here to buy "cheap", and then promptly start advocating for the exact same shit that made Cali "too expensive" for them.
[Standing in front of a bungalow that just sold for $350K cash] "Oh, yeah, we just bought the place. My husband works for a startup downtown. We just couldn't stand the taxes and the traffic in California anymore so we sold our house there for, like, $800,000. We're really blessed. It's so nice being so close to the MAX! Did you catch the debate last night? Bernie was on fire!" Fuck off. ETA: LOL. Post 666. I'm so blessed. Crime train!
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went to Salem and testified against this. The people who were for this are completely insane. They think that this is going to raise their quality of life, all it is going to do is make more people poor. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:53:52 PM EDT
[#39]
socialism doesn't work
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:55:43 PM EDT
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It will be genuinely fascinating to see how this plays out over the next year or two. I'm not an economist and don't claim to understand the vagaries of economics. I'm curious as to whether the entire state economy will collapse and everyone will be eating out of trash cans, or if it actually does help some people out of poverty, or if two years from now nobody can tell the difference. Either way, I bet it doesn't turn out as good or bad as either side predicts. I eagerly await predictions from all sides. Speaking of which, where are ARfcom's two card carrying little snot nosed Marxists? Ah, they're probably congratulating each other and masturbating furiously over this momentous news! They'll chime in when their arms get tired. In a couple years the buying power of the people at the bottom of the wage scale will be the same as it is now due to rising prices. The buying power of everyone above them will go down due to the increases prices. The interesting thing is that this hits middle class blue collar workers the hardest. That 20-30 per hour wage isn't nearly as good when the minimum is 15 rather than 8. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 11:57:13 PM EDT
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Idaho has been losing some of its labor force to Washington and Oregon because of the minimum wage. I'm concerned we will lose even more. On the other hand, this MIGHT cause the more liberal minded to leave our state. I will simply hope for the best. I guess we'll just see. I wish Idaho paid attention and adjusted the minimum wage to better match inflation. The minimum wage in 2016 is so much lower than it was decades ago due to inflation. I just don't see the point in supplementing low wages with government benefits that small businesses and the middle class ultimately pay for while larger corporations shelter their money through tax benefits. Do people not see how backwards this is?
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Posted: 2/20/2016 12:01:02 AM EDT
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It doesn't take effect until 2022. In my area I think it raises the min wage to something like $12.50.... I'm not up and up in economics really, what will that be worth in 2022? No. I want my monies starting on Monday.
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Posted: 2/20/2016 12:17:44 AM EDT
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It will be genuinely fascinating to see how this plays out over the next year or two. I'm not an economist and don't claim to understand the vagaries of economics. I'm curious as to whether the entire state economy will collapse and everyone will be eating out of trash cans, or if it actually does help some people out of poverty, or if two years from now nobody can tell the difference. Either way, I bet it doesn't turn out as good or bad as either side predicts. I eagerly await predictions from all sides. Speaking of which, where are ARfcom's two card carrying little snot nosed Marxists? Ah, they're probably congratulating each other and masturbating furiously over this momentous news! They'll chime in when their arms get tired. They're getting each other off. From each their ability, to each their needs. Let's just hope there aren't any choking hazards. Do Marxists have gag reflexes? |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 12:25:55 AM EDT
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I have to ask. What did the gas pump guy make before this?
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Posted: 2/20/2016 11:31:15 AM EDT
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Legal weed and an artificially increased minimum wage? That's going to draw in a certain breed. 
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Posted: 2/20/2016 1:41:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At $15 an hour, a lot of jobs can be automated out of existence. But then the state will just pay unemployment till it is bankrupt. It's not that much harder to automate the "cooks" (heaters of food) too. You'll go up to the food delivery window, laser scan your receipt, the platform with your order will rotate into position and the door will open with your order bagged and ready to take home. All done with out error and much faster with no human drama. At first they will integrate a small number of automates, then Bam, wholesale pink slips |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 1:42:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Democrats value them more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So $600 a week and $28k a year? So now minimum wage workers make more than a New soldier in the military, if they work full time. Democrats value them more. Ask them if these raises apply to military too? |
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Posted: 2/20/2016 1:49:33 PM EDT
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Yep, that land whale with the upside down sign is worth $15hr alright. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yep, that land whale with the upside down sign is worth $15hr alright. Exactly what I said. Wants $15/hr but can't even hold a sign correctly. 
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Posted: 2/20/2016 2:01:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2016 2:04:11 PM EDT
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I work in the med field, if I am still in this state when it goes into effect I will be expecting a raise. Also expect more hospital born infections because it's the cleaning staff that will be cut to save money
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