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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:00:42 AM EDT
The mob is still thriving, Manhattan prosecutors told jurors Tuesday at the trial of reputed Bonanno capo Nicholas “Nicky Mouth” Santora — who inspired the character played by the late Bruno Kirby in the 1997 film “Donnie Brasco” — and three members of his crew. “This is not Hollywood,” said ADA David Stuart in his opening statement at the enterprise corruption trial in Manhattan Supreme Court. “These crimes and these defendants are real and you’ll hear that far from being dormant the Bonanno organized crime family was alive and well, and the old guard was training the new members to take over their reins.” Stuart laid out the case against the aging underboss, nicknamed “Captain Crunch,” who allegedly oversaw an online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012. Stuart cautioned jurors not to be fooled by the appearance of the benign-looking 73-year-old who sat at the defense table in a wheelchair. He referenced the mobster’s own sarcastic words to an underling caught on wiretap, “Who do you think runs this? An old f—king man?” and “Your d—k rises and falls with me.” Link |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 7:44:06 AM EDT
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Bumped for Turbine Guy
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:48:46 AM EDT
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I hate it when my dick rises and falls becasue of someone else
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:57:06 AM EDT
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I hate it when my dick rises and falls becasue of someone else 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:01:53 AM EDT
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I'm not surprised. The mob was the only real target for the FBI, then 9/11 happened and they had a new target to concentrate on.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:17:59 AM EDT
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you watch yourself in the mirror i take it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate it when my dick rises and falls becasue of someone else
you watch yourself in the mirror i take it Don't make it weird 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:34:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Stuart laid out the case against the aging underboss, nicknamed "Captain Crunch,” who allegedly oversaw an online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012. Ain't got nothin on me.  |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:48:53 AM EDT
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Damn, I didn't know Bruno Kirby died in 2006.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:58:24 AM EDT
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I hate it when my dick rises and falls becasue of someone else Especially an old man, huh? 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:02:01 AM EDT
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I hate it when my dick rises and falls becasue of someone else Especially when it rises and falls because of an old man. That's just weird Eta: dammit
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:06:24 AM EDT
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Because the Italian mob is whats really driving crime in New York.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:10:29 AM EDT
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online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012 So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:16:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the Italian mob is whats really driving crime in New York. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:20:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, I didn't know Bruno Kirby died in 2006. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:25:00 AM EDT
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So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? Quote HistoryQuoted:
online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012 So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? That is one of the only reasons the government cracks down organize crime. They are not getting there cut of the $$$$$ |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:26:52 AM EDT
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Damn, I didn't know Bruno Kirby died in 2006. Me neither. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:53:10 AM EDT
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So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? Quote HistoryQuoted:
online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012 So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? He wasn't in the US Senate. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:01:29 AM EDT
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So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? Quote HistoryQuoted:
online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012 So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? Gub'ermint hates competition |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:09:19 AM EDT
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Used to live down the street from Joe Bonanno in Tucson. He looked like a nice old man. Grandpa kind of guy. He waved when you walked by his house. He brought lots of mafia guys to Tucson because his son, Bill, had asthma, and they moved there for his health. He was far from a nice old man.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:15:10 AM EDT
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Ain't got nothin on me.
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Stuart laid out the case against the aging underboss, nicknamed "Captain Crunch,” who allegedly oversaw an online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012. Ain't got nothin on me.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:16:02 AM EDT
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Leukemia. Damn shame. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, I didn't know Bruno Kirby died in 2006. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:25:17 AM EDT
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The mob is still thriving, Manhattan prosecutors told jurors Far from true. The Genovese family about the only ones still resembling a "large crime family" as we know it. The Colombos are a street gang of a few old men and a few young junkies, Lucheses are only slightly better, Gambinos are only now digging their way out of the decimation of the Gotti years, and the Bonannos had their own Boss flip and were a wire on the guy he picked as street boss less than 10 years ago. The "Mafia" is at it lowest point in history (outside the Mussolini years) and it isn't ever going to have the power it had in the 80s and 90s, much less the "Golden Age". There are no more "ghettos" full of young tough Italian kids to pick from. What you have is a bunch of spoiled brats playing Gangster until the FBI comes knocking and not being schooled in the old traditions, not growing up poor, not having any real allegiance to their own kind....they all flip. It's sad what resources the FBI devoted to breaking the Mafia's back while letting the Crips sling crack, Bloods beat and rob old ladies, MS-13 rape and pimp kids, etc. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:32:34 AM EDT
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Online gambling and penis pills?
Nobody is going to want to see a movie about that. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:37:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Far from true. The Genovese family about the only ones still resembling a "large crime family" as we know it. The Colombos are a street gang of a few old men and a few young junkies, Lucheses are only slightly better, Gambinos are only now digging their way out of the decimation of the Gotti years, and the Bonannos had their own Boss flip and were a wire on the guy he picked as street boss less than 10 years ago. The "Mafia" is at it lowest point in history (outside the Mussolini years) and it isn't ever going to have the power it had in the 80s and 90s, much less the "Golden Age". There are no more "ghettos" full of young tough Italian kids to pick from. What you have is a bunch of spoiled brats playing Gangster until the FBI comes knocking and not being schooled in the old traditions, not growing up poor, not having any real allegiance to their own kind....they all flip. It's sad what resources the FBI devoted to breaking the Mafia's back while letting the Crips sling crack, Bloods beat and rob old ladies, MS-13 rape and pimp kids, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The mob is still thriving, Manhattan prosecutors told jurors Far from true. The Genovese family about the only ones still resembling a "large crime family" as we know it. The Colombos are a street gang of a few old men and a few young junkies, Lucheses are only slightly better, Gambinos are only now digging their way out of the decimation of the Gotti years, and the Bonannos had their own Boss flip and were a wire on the guy he picked as street boss less than 10 years ago. The "Mafia" is at it lowest point in history (outside the Mussolini years) and it isn't ever going to have the power it had in the 80s and 90s, much less the "Golden Age". There are no more "ghettos" full of young tough Italian kids to pick from. What you have is a bunch of spoiled brats playing Gangster until the FBI comes knocking and not being schooled in the old traditions, not growing up poor, not having any real allegiance to their own kind....they all flip. It's sad what resources the FBI devoted to breaking the Mafia's back while letting the Crips sling crack, Bloods beat and rob old ladies, MS-13 rape and pimp kids, etc. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:05:21 PM EDT
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I'm not surprised. The mob was the only real target for the FBI, then 9/11 happened and they had a new target to concentrate on. and now Hillary... 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:23:10 PM EDT
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I hate it when my dick rises and falls becasue of someone else probably talking about the illegal sale of viagra etc. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:24:56 PM EDT
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Check your privilege. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The mob is still thriving, Manhattan prosecutors told jurors Far from true. The Genovese family about the only ones still resembling a "large crime family" as we know it. The Colombos are a street gang of a few old men and a few young junkies, Lucheses are only slightly better, Gambinos are only now digging their way out of the decimation of the Gotti years, and the Bonannos had their own Boss flip and were a wire on the guy he picked as street boss less than 10 years ago. The "Mafia" is at it lowest point in history (outside the Mussolini years) and it isn't ever going to have the power it had in the 80s and 90s, much less the "Golden Age". There are no more "ghettos" full of young tough Italian kids to pick from. What you have is a bunch of spoiled brats playing Gangster until the FBI comes knocking and not being schooled in the old traditions, not growing up poor, not having any real allegiance to their own kind....they all flip. It's sad what resources the FBI devoted to breaking the Mafia's back while letting the Crips sling crack, Bloods beat and rob old ladies, MS-13 rape and pimp kids, etc. I think part of the reason the FBI has not been able to do street gangs is they are not always doing things across state lines, which is where the FBI comes in. Also its much, much harder to infiltrate a street gang, and serves little purpose anyway since really all a street gang is is a bunch of shitheads acting together. Although they "sign" under a larger gang (crips, bloods, gangster disciples, etc.) they aren't working for the big organization but someone in the hood who runs or controls their particular group. Whereas infiltrating Mafia, motorcycle gangs and other organized crime is doable and can usually get results, even if those results don't always measure up. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:29:33 PM EDT
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I think part of the reason the FBI has not been able to do street gangs is they are not always doing things across state lines, which is where the FBI comes in. Also its much, much harder to infiltrate a street gang, and serves little purpose anyway since really all a street gang is is a bunch of shitheads acting together. Although they "sign" under a larger gang (crips, bloods, gangster disciples, etc.) they aren't working for the big organization but someone in the hood who runs or controls their particular group. Whereas infiltrating Mafia, motorcycle gangs and other organized crime is doable and can usually get results, even if those results don't always measure up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The mob is still thriving, Manhattan prosecutors told jurors Far from true. The Genovese family about the only ones still resembling a "large crime family" as we know it. The Colombos are a street gang of a few old men and a few young junkies, Lucheses are only slightly better, Gambinos are only now digging their way out of the decimation of the Gotti years, and the Bonannos had their own Boss flip and were a wire on the guy he picked as street boss less than 10 years ago. The "Mafia" is at it lowest point in history (outside the Mussolini years) and it isn't ever going to have the power it had in the 80s and 90s, much less the "Golden Age". There are no more "ghettos" full of young tough Italian kids to pick from. What you have is a bunch of spoiled brats playing Gangster until the FBI comes knocking and not being schooled in the old traditions, not growing up poor, not having any real allegiance to their own kind....they all flip. It's sad what resources the FBI devoted to breaking the Mafia's back while letting the Crips sling crack, Bloods beat and rob old ladies, MS-13 rape and pimp kids, etc. I think part of the reason the FBI has not been able to do street gangs is they are not always doing things across state lines, which is where the FBI comes in. Also its much, much harder to infiltrate a street gang, and serves little purpose anyway since really all a street gang is is a bunch of shitheads acting together. Although they "sign" under a larger gang (crips, bloods, gangster disciples, etc.) they aren't working for the big organization but someone in the hood who runs or controls their particular group. Whereas infiltrating Mafia, motorcycle gangs and other organized crime is doable and can usually get results, even if those results don't always measure up. The FBI only went after Italian organized crime because the govt demanded it. Hoover (friends with numerous mob bosses) was going on record that the Mafia didn't exist at the same time Cosa Nostra was running most of the major crime in the entire country. Afterwards, they made up for it in spades, because up until the 80s, Cosa Nostra still did control most of the major crime rackets in the country. Not only did they deal in prostitution, gambling, drugs, but also the more dangerous for a society, like labor, construction, even politics. Its no secret that Sam Giancana helped JFK win the 1960 election. They were a major danger to society, a lot more than a couple of independent Blood or Crip sets, or MS-13, who keep most of the nasty in their own neighborhoods, can't organize effectively, etc. When they do organize, or gain too much power, like the cartels, the FBI goes after them. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:34:16 PM EDT
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I hate it when my dick rises and falls becasue of someone else Uh, I like it when it rises and falls because of a fine ass lady. 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:41:50 PM EDT
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Funny thing about those guys who are connected etc. They really don't fuck shit up like urban yutes. In the area I live and the business I used to be in they weren't uncommon. I never thought "Hey I might get robbed in this restaurant, pool hall, bar or card game." Yeah they do illegal shit. Yeah sometimes someone gets the shit beat out of them or killed. Its for a reason though. Like scumbags who make bets they cant afford and try and duck their bookie. Ill take organized guys who's biggest crime most of them commit is not paying taxes. Over F'ing hood rats any day.
In my 20s I used to drive a real nice Cadillac. I never had an Italian guy try to car jack me. The only thing I got was "nice car kid". But I certainly had a dumb hood rat try it. Lucky for me the concept of power windows and being dragged for a block was beyond his comprehension. Although I'm pretty sure he never tried that again. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:45:52 PM EDT
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Funny thing about those guys who are connected etc. They really don't fuck shit up like urban yutes. In the area I live and the business I used to be in they weren't uncommon. I never thought "Hey I might get robbed in this restaurant, pool hall, bar or card game." Yeah they do illegal shit. Yeah sometimes someone gets the shit beat out of them or killed. Its for a reason though. Like scumbags who make bets they cant afford and try and duck their bookie. Ill take organized guys who's biggest crime most of them commit is not paying taxes. Over F'ing hood rats any day. In my 20s I used to drive a real nice Cadillac. I never had an Italian guy try to car jack me. The only thing I got was "nice car kid". But I certainly had a dumb hood rat try it. Lucky for me the concept of power windows and being dragged for a block was beyond his comprehension. Although I'm pretty sure he never tried that again. Only the low level associates are still involved in street rips and other shit like that. Soldiers and above have access to super lucrative rackets. Why steal your car when they buy out the owner of the dealership super cheap through a subtle threat? Or get one free as tax? Organized crime members teach the younger less experienced ones how to succeed as criminals. Hood rats of the variety you are talking about are mostly degenerate junkies looking to rob, fence it, and then shoot/smoke up. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:51:10 PM EDT
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I'm well aware. I was making a point.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 5:56:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2016 6:17:28 PM EDT
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Funny thing about those guys who are connected etc. They really don't fuck shit up like urban yutes. In the area I live and the business I used to be in they weren't uncommon. I never thought "Hey I might get robbed in this restaurant, pool hall, bar or card game." Yeah they do illegal shit. Yeah sometimes someone gets the shit beat out of them or killed. Its for a reason though. Like scumbags who make bets they cant afford and try and duck their bookie. Ill take organized guys who's biggest crime most of them commit is not paying taxes. Over F'ing hood rats any day. In my 20s I used to drive a real nice Cadillac. I never had an Italian guy try to car jack me. The only thing I got was "nice car kid". But I certainly had a dumb hood rat try it. Lucky for me the concept of power windows and being dragged for a block was beyond his comprehension. Although I'm pretty sure he never tried that again. My father had a logistics company. He opened a terminal in Philly. Some guys showed up and told him he didn't have 'rights'. My dad showed them his ICC placard and carrier insurance, told them this was America where we all have rights. They threatened my father, nice family you have there and all of that old world cheesewiz. Dad close that shop and paid back his partners at a loss. You can have those guys over for dinner and all of those like them that have dragged this country back towards a feudal ordering of justice, not me though |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 7:36:54 PM EDT
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Star Pastry Shoppe on Carmine Street in Greenwich Village my dad gave one envelope to the Genovese's and one envelope to the bagman of the 6th precinct every month
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Posted: 2/10/2016 7:47:19 PM EDT
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My father had a logistics company. He opened a terminal in Philly. Some guys showed up and told him he didn't have 'rights'. My dad showed them his ICC placard and carrier insurance, told them this was America where we all have rights. They threatened my father, nice family you have there and all of that old world cheesewiz. Dad close that shop and paid back his partners at a loss. You can have those guys over for dinner and all of those like them that have dragged this country back towards a feudal ordering of justice, not me though I get what you are saying, and you are 100% correct... BUT...Detroit, for example, was much better back when the Detroit Partnership kept an eye on things. Just sayin' |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 7:54:00 PM EDT
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So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? Quote HistoryQuoted:
online gambling operation, the sale of prescription drugs, including Cialis and Viagra, and a loansharking scheme from 2010 to 2012 So...his problem was he didn't get his government licenses to do these things? That's the Cuomo crime family. With the death of their Godfather Mario it has been run by Andy "The Princess" Cuomo from upstate. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:22:39 PM EDT
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This is why I'd never last 5 minutes in the mob.
I'd have to ask him what the fuck he was on about. Then I'd be sleeping with the fishes |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:26:20 PM EDT
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My father had a logistics company. He opened a terminal in Philly. Some guys showed up and told him he didn't have 'rights'. My dad showed them his ICC placard and carrier insurance, told them this was America where we all have rights. They threatened my father, nice family you have there and all of that old world cheesewiz. Dad close that shop and paid back his partners at a loss. You can have those guys over for dinner and all of those like them that have dragged this country back towards a feudal ordering of justice, not me though Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Funny thing about those guys who are connected etc. They really don't fuck shit up like urban yutes. In the area I live and the business I used to be in they weren't uncommon. I never thought "Hey I might get robbed in this restaurant, pool hall, bar or card game." Yeah they do illegal shit. Yeah sometimes someone gets the shit beat out of them or killed. Its for a reason though. Like scumbags who make bets they cant afford and try and duck their bookie. Ill take organized guys who's biggest crime most of them commit is not paying taxes. Over F'ing hood rats any day. In my 20s I used to drive a real nice Cadillac. I never had an Italian guy try to car jack me. The only thing I got was "nice car kid". But I certainly had a dumb hood rat try it. Lucky for me the concept of power windows and being dragged for a block was beyond his comprehension. Although I'm pretty sure he never tried that again. My father had a logistics company. He opened a terminal in Philly. Some guys showed up and told him he didn't have 'rights'. My dad showed them his ICC placard and carrier insurance, told them this was America where we all have rights. They threatened my father, nice family you have there and all of that old world cheesewiz. Dad close that shop and paid back his partners at a loss. You can have those guys over for dinner and all of those like them that have dragged this country back towards a feudal ordering of justice, not me though Farm family from the next county over, a big watermelon and cattle farm family. Before NAFTA they had a monopoly, and they would truck watermelons up the Atlantic Seaboard during the spring. One of their guys opened a market in NYC to get into the retail end of it too. He got a visit from some Guidos who told him he pay up for protection and he told them to foad. He caught a .22 in the back of the head at his market one day. Never solved. Murdered because he wouldn't pay them. They make their living by bullying common people too, not just other gangsters. They all deserve to be ground into dog food. |
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