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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:23:29 AM EDT
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i have my staircase to my second floor rigged like this.... goto 1:00.. fuck home invaders.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:29:21 AM EDT
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I'm partial to Pullpups |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:33:27 AM EDT
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I'm partial to Pullpups What are you, some kind of veterinary obstetrician? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:36:28 AM EDT
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What are you, some kind of veterinary obstetrician? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm partial to Pullpups What are you, some kind of veterinary obstetrician? I was thinking it sounded like a combination of pulled pork sandwiches and puppies. So cute AND delicious. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:41:39 AM EDT
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Stupid thread is stupid. Proximity of bystanders? Types of walls? Ammo type? Bullpup what? Shotgun? Rifle? Details are missing. My house has 4 split levels, the angles work out in such a way that I do not have to worry about over penetration hitting a loved one and my longest shot about 30 feet. Since my longest shot is about 30 feet, since I have been point shooting a 590 for over 20 years, and I don't have to worry about over penetration, I'll take a shotgun. But there is another factor. Teenagers. Got four of them and between them and their friends I can't answer the door with a shotgun. I usually grab my G35 w/TLR-1 after bed and before bed time I have a 19 on me. Everybody's situation is different, from the layout and construction of their home, number of occupants, age of occupants, city, burbs, country, level of experience with one weapon over another, it all adds up to no one weapon is perfect for every situation and every home. Go over the different factors and figure out what will work best for you with all things considered. Rifle, shotgun, or pistol doesn't matter to me as long as it's practical and can be used proficiently. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:54:31 AM EDT
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Red sun or yellow sun? Whichever you prefer? I'm not really sure what that means. Its pretty much THE question that needs to be answered before a choice is made. What's the terrain like? Also, what's the elevation and relative humidity. #Ballisticsmatter. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:56:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, what's the elevation and relative humidity. #Ballisticsmatter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whichever you prefer? I'm not really sure what that means. Its pretty much THE question that needs to be answered before a choice is made. What's the terrain like? Also, what's the elevation and relative humidity. #Ballisticsmatter. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:57:18 AM EDT
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AR. This..... |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 1:06:41 PM EDT
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I've owned all three and the bullpup is definitely the most house-clearing friendly. The barrel doesn't announce your presence as you enter a room/hallway, is easier to retain and the balance allows you to manipulate doors while still carrying the rifle at high-ready.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:29:51 PM EDT
[#10]
AR-15. It's what's next to the bed now.
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Shotgun. At such a close range the 556/223 won't have a chance to tumble and therefore would be less effective. Tumble? You mean you're using ball ammo? Why would you even...? 
I've got a decent supply of 64 grain Gold Dot 5.56. I'm not worried about the round tumbling to be effective. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 8:47:19 PM EDT
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What kind of sights are on the shotgun?
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Posted: 2/12/2016 8:50:28 PM EDT
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Ima gonna have to go with shotgun.
I'm tired of getting cuts above my eye while shooting my ARs. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:01:35 PM EDT
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I'd take the AR in case there it's a zombie attack. Good call. Don't forget to remove the sights. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:04:53 PM EDT
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Good call. Don't forget to remove the sights.
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I'd take the AR in case there it's a zombie attack. Good call. Don't forget to remove the sights.
All I need is the front sight base. I have the Terminator Eye. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:23:39 PM EDT
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Here's my 3 gun rig....in the safe but it will fuck shit up with a donkey dick hanging from it. My Keltec KSG sits next to the bed and is 3rd string for shtf.
3 gun match tomorrow btw!!!!!!!!!!  Real Persian carpets ftw!
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:26:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's my 3 gun rig....in the safe but it will fuck shit up with a donkey dick hanging from it. My Keltec KSG sits next to the bed and is 3rd string for shtf. 3 gun match tomorrow btw!!!!!!!!!!  http://youtu.be/Cmkq2BgYsUs |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:35:15 PM EDT
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every gun has the same exact sights. So, you are saying that my 12 gauge has a 4-16x50 scope? 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:38:07 PM EDT
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I'm just tossing hand grenades and going back to bed. Ain't nobody got time for battle drill 6 ops. I'm just going to start mixing my GD post up tonight. You saw it here first. I'm guessing insecure guys need to try and verify their quasi manhood by posting pics of their half clothed wives for other guys to ogle, and then affirm that the first guy did indeed pick a socially acceptable and aesthetically pleasing woman. Or they're cuckolds looking for bulls. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:43:47 PM EDT
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I'll take the Pullpup Only if it's an 88 Magnum Pullpup that can shoot through schools |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:48:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really, really want to do a mag conversion Auto 5/ Mod 11. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's my 3 gun rig....in the safe but it will fuck shit up with a donkey dick hanging from it. My Keltec KSG sits next to the bed and is 3rd string for shtf. 3 gun match tomorrow btw!!!!!!!!!! http://youtu.be/Cmkq2BgYsUs |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:54:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:58:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You coming to the DoubleTapChampionship in June? 300 + shooters so far and 25+ Grand Masters so far this year. Im RO stage 3 i think Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I really, really want to do a mag conversion Auto 5/ Mod 11. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:58:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:59:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL no, all my money right now is going to school and wooing women. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I really, really want to do a mag conversion Auto 5/ Mod 11. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:05:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: understood! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL no, all my money right now is going to school and wooing women.  |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:10:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 13er post living up to the standard I see. Good on ya Quote HistoryQuoted: 13er post living up to the standard I see. Good on ya Sorry. When I read that you keep a pistol, a sub-gun , a carbine, AND a Kel-Tech shotgun on your nightstand I assumed it was a joke thread. My bad.  |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:12:57 PM EDT
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The thing I've always, always wanted to do is Cola Warrior, and it's always done when I have money but no time, or time but no money.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of sights are on the shotgun? You'll be wearing an eyepatch for a while. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll be wearing an eyepatch for a while. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What kind of sights are on the shotgun? You'll be wearing an eyepatch for a while. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry. When I read that you keep a pistol, a sub-gun , a carbine, AND a Kel-Tech shotgun on your nightstand I assumed it was a joke thread. My bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 13er post living up to the standard I see. Good on ya Sorry. When I read that you keep a pistol, a sub-gun , a carbine, AND a Kel-Tech shotgun on your nightstand I assumed it was a joke thread. My bad. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry. When I read that you keep a pistol, a sub-gun , a carbine, AND a Kel-Tech shotgun on your nightstand I assumed it was a joke thread. My bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 13er post living up to the standard I see. Good on ya Sorry. When I read that you keep a pistol, a sub-gun , a carbine, AND a Kel-Tech shotgun on your nightstand I assumed it was a joke thread. My bad. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:34:11 PM EDT
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AR. 10.5" SBR with can
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No worries, knock on my door after dark..... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 13er post living up to the standard I see. Good on ya Sorry. When I read that you keep a pistol, a sub-gun , a carbine, AND a Kel-Tech shotgun on your nightstand I assumed it was a joke thread. My bad. Only if you promise to "dual wield" two of those guns. Choose wisely though. When you look through that peephole realize that it could be a human in a bear mask OR a bear in a human mask. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:40:09 PM EDT
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The thing I've always, always wanted to do is Cola Warrior, and it's always done when I have money but no time, or time but no money. If you one day find yourself with the time but no money to make it to Cola Warrior, You send me a PM. I'll find a way to get you there. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd be amazed how tough it is to try to keep a PA Micro aimpoint rip off squinted in your eye trying to take a picture. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What kind of sights are on the shotgun? You'll be wearing an eyepatch for a while. It only hurts for a few days, and then you never have to aim a shotgun again. Well worth it.  |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI haven't had to use my 375 H&H since mid December. It's still leaning against the fireplace in case of bears in my garden. Because rifles. And bears. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:55:37 PM EDT
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Some of you are going to choose a bullpup type, and wake up one day to realize your mistake, and you'll cry for days.
Some of you are going to hold a dick in your mouth until the swelling goes down. You may wake up and regret it, but thank God you aren't as gay as the bull pup crowd. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:58:36 PM EDT
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Assuming no short barrels. You hear a window break downstairs and dogs barking. You have an OAL 40" 12 gauge Semi auto shotgun (6+1), an OAL 28.15" Steyr Aug (30+1), and an OAL 34" AR15 (30+1) all sitting right next to each other. Which would you grab to make your way downstairs with? Imagine you had extensive experience with all 3 and had never had a functional problem with any. Poll inbound. *edit, you can take any flashlight you want and every gun has the same exact sights. I like the length on the Aug, but I've got almost no trigger time on them. I'd take the AR. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:59:49 PM EDT
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I like the length on the Aug, I'd take the AR. You realize how close you came? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you are going to choose a bullpup type, and wake up one day to realize your mistake, and you'll cry for days. Some of you are going to hold a dick in your mouth until the swelling goes down. You may wake up and regret it, but thank God you aren't as gay as the bull pup crowd. But what about the bullpup shotgun? Isn't that the best of both worlds? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:01:24 PM EDT
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I hear a noise, smash the button on the wall. That starts the countdown sequence.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:01:52 PM EDT
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The bullpup is more maneuverable in close quarters combat I would have it loaded with DIC ammo for that extra punch. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:02:29 PM EDT
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I'll take the Pullpup Yeah, ok |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:06:24 PM EDT
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But what about the bullpup shotgun? Isn't that the best of both worlds? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some of you are going to choose a bullpup type, and wake up one day to realize your mistake, and you'll cry for days. Some of you are going to hold a dick in your mouth until the swelling goes down. You may wake up and regret it, but thank God you aren't as gay as the bull pup crowd. But what about the bullpup shotgun? Isn't that the best of both worlds? Fingercuffs. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:08:07 PM EDT
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I've just started keeping my Winchester model 71 loaded.
I figure fuck it, I'll just shoot through the entire house, why get out of bed. ETA. .348 win compared to a 5.56 round.  |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:09:50 PM EDT
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12 ga, 00 buck.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:10:06 PM EDT
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I've just started keeping my Winchester model 71 loaded. I figure fuck it, I'll just shoot through the entire house, why get out of bed. I could answer with an m 100, but fuck it I've got Garands. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:24:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could answer with an m 100, but fuck it I've got Garands. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've just started keeping my Winchester model 71 loaded. I figure fuck it, I'll just shoot through the entire house, why get out of bed. I could answer with an m 100, but fuck it I've got Garands. (see my -eta) |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:32:54 PM EDT
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I have owned all three and I would use the AR for the following reasons.
It kills better than the shotgun And it is cheaper to replace while it sits in an evidence room for years. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:39:52 PM EDT
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My reasons for taking the AR:
1. Low recoil 2. Superior ability to turn cover into concealment 3. Better able to penetrate more types of body armor. 4. More training time with it? 5. the 30 round mag in the mag well, plus the extra one in the redi-mag gives me more shots. 6. Much higher rate of fire with the AR many people put forward the number of projectiles fired by a shotgun per trigger pull, but at common "house fighting" distances, the shot has not had much chance to spread, negating that idea. In a perfect world, I would find a reasonably priced select fire Stryr Aug with a 16" barrel and a 42 round mag for the job the OP described. |
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