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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:46:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, bigger Berlin Wall. Imitate the great success they had there. OK. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:47:34 PM EDT
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The Berlin Wall was to keep people in. I'm happy to let anyone leave at any time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, bigger Berlin Wall. Imitate the great success they had there. OK. But, same idea, right? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:48:07 PM EDT
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I talked to a woman who had been beaten and robbed repeatedly, and probably a lot more shit that she didn't want to talk about. You good with repeatedly raping her until she gets the point? Meh. If our Afghan "allies" can bugger little boys and get a pass form our government (and even punish our GIs trying to stop it) then I don't give two shits what happens to some illegal on the Mexican side of the border. She should have stayed where she was. At least if she got raped at home she would not be as foot-worn. 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:48:14 PM EDT
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He's right,the wall wouldn't stop much at all.Over,under,through....... Supply and demand-get rid of the free school,anchor baby bullshit,welfare,tax "refunds",free medical care,no job if you aren't legal,no drivers license,etc and they will have no reason to come here. Yup! |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:48:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, they have actually shut the border down before, without any of that shit. How did that work out? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It might just end up a situation where it's either, "get shot making an illegal crossing." Or, build a wall with restricted openings for controlled traffic. Which would you choose? Aloha, Mark Well, they have actually shut the border down before, without any of that shit. How did that work out? 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:50:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But, same idea, right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, bigger Berlin Wall. Imitate the great success they had there. OK. But, same idea, right? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:51:02 PM EDT
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It might just end up a situation where it's either, "get shot making an illegal crossing." Or, build a wall with restricted openings for controlled traffic. Which would you choose? Aloha, Mark Well, they have actually shut the border down before, without any of that shit. How did that work out? http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/youre_serious_futurama.gif Too young to know modern history? They didn't teach anything about it in school? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:51:25 PM EDT
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They can most certainly be compelled to pay for it. Without a doubt. Yep. Say hello to the new border tax visitors will pay for the privilege of entering our country. 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:51:50 PM EDT
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In my case I actually talked to a few of those illegal immigrants. One good example was a middle aged woman who had left her family in Guatemala to come to the US because the gang wars down there were killing everyone around them, there was no work, no food, and no future for her kids, etc. So she saved her money, left her family and got on the train as far as it would take her. Then she walked the rest of the way. On the way she got beaten up, robbed, and who knows what else? When she got here, she got whatever jobs she could get, learned English and sent every spare dollar to her family. She eventually became a US citizen and brought her family with her, legally. She stated very plainly that she looked at it as a matter of survival for her children. It is kinda hard to discourage people who will go through all that shit to try to save their children. Also, she worked so goddamn hard that she really was an asset to the US community. Of course, we could have shot her at the border instead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The whining from the "ranchers" along the border would be epic when the .gov takes their land to build the wall. I'm sure there will be some hornie toad that will need protection too. How about a few hundred billion in oil/gas? Don't care....Not even a little bit. It would be the Deal of the Day compared to what illegals cost the USA. What's wrong, skeered you would have to mow your own lawn or Heaven forbid pay a US citizen to roof your house? In my case I actually talked to a few of those illegal immigrants. One good example was a middle aged woman who had left her family in Guatemala to come to the US because the gang wars down there were killing everyone around them, there was no work, no food, and no future for her kids, etc. So she saved her money, left her family and got on the train as far as it would take her. Then she walked the rest of the way. On the way she got beaten up, robbed, and who knows what else? When she got here, she got whatever jobs she could get, learned English and sent every spare dollar to her family. She eventually became a US citizen and brought her family with her, legally. She stated very plainly that she looked at it as a matter of survival for her children. It is kinda hard to discourage people who will go through all that shit to try to save their children. Also, she worked so goddamn hard that she really was an asset to the US community. Of course, we could have shot her at the border instead. So she came here legally? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:51:51 PM EDT
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There will be no massive tariffs imposed on Mexico to pay for a wall. You realize that, don't you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is the same shitbag who addressed a joint session of Congress and spent the whole time badmouthing the US and blaming the US for all of Mexicos problems. Fuck that dude with a rusty cactus. Mexico will pay for the wall via tariffs. He is a stupid prick and is barely fit to push a mower or work a leaf blower. There will be no massive tariffs imposed on Mexico to pay for a wall. You realize that, don't you? No need for tariffs. Simply take it out of the $43 Billion per year we give them in foreign aid money. At least then those dollars would be used for something useful to the US. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:52:04 PM EDT
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Not at all. The immoral part of the Berlin Wall was the whole "shooting people trying to escape their dictatorship" thing. We're simply keeping people out who don't have a legal right to be here. Unless you are one of those open borders fanatics who thinks all immigration laws are immoral, I don't see the issue with that. Good fences make for good neighbors. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, bigger Berlin Wall. Imitate the great success they had there. OK. But, same idea, right? Well, as long as you have a good reason for shooting people who aren't a deadly threat to you, then we are good. The international PR ought to be wonderful. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:52:35 PM EDT
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So she came here legally? No. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:53:56 PM EDT
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So she came here legally? No. how did she get her citizenship? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:54:57 PM EDT
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how did she get her citizenship? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So she came here legally? No. how did she get her citizenship? I don't know all the details. It was years ago. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:55:02 PM EDT
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Meh. If our Afghan "allies" can bugger little boys and get a pass form our government (and even punish our GIs trying to stop it) then I don't give two shits what happens to some illegal on the Mexican side of the border. She should have stayed where she was. At least if she got raped at home she would not be as foot-worn.
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I talked to a woman who had been beaten and robbed repeatedly, and probably a lot more shit that she didn't want to talk about. You good with repeatedly raping her until she gets the point? Meh. If our Afghan "allies" can bugger little boys and get a pass form our government (and even punish our GIs trying to stop it) then I don't give two shits what happens to some illegal on the Mexican side of the border. She should have stayed where she was. At least if she got raped at home she would not be as foot-worn.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:55:27 PM EDT
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how did she get her citizenship? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So she came here legally? No. how did she get her citizenship? The world wonders. 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:55:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Too young to know modern history? They didn't teach anything about it in school? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It might just end up a situation where it's either, "get shot making an illegal crossing." Or, build a wall with restricted openings for controlled traffic. Which would you choose? Aloha, Mark Well, they have actually shut the border down before, without any of that shit. How did that work out? http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/youre_serious_futurama.gif Too young to know modern history? They didn't teach anything about it in school? If you think that at any point the ENTIRE border was secure in preventing all access, then I have oceanfront property in Death Valley to sell you |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:56:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, as long as you have a good reason for shooting people who aren't a deadly threat to you, then we are good. The international PR ought to be wonderful. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:56:59 PM EDT
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If you think that at any point the ENTIRE border was secure in preventing all access, then I have oceanfront property in Death Valley to sell you Google "Operation Intercept". You are welcome. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:58:09 PM EDT
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You would try to apprehend peacefully if at all possible, you know, like how we enforce every other law in this country. Let me ask you this, is it immoral to shoot people who run the checkpoint at a military base? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, as long as you have a good reason for shooting people who aren't a deadly threat to you, then we are good. The international PR ought to be wonderful. You mean, is it immoral to shoot people to protect a place where nuclear weapons may be stored, as opposed to shooting someone who is just trying to come across a national border? Is that the question? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:58:27 PM EDT
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Calderon apparently doesn't understand that the price is coming out of the Mexican welfare the US gives to them, LOL.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:58:37 PM EDT
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Let me tell you what I would do. When I am elected President, I will send the Army into Mexico. They will seize a one kilometer wide strip of territory and the said territory will thoroughly be seeded with landmines, booby traps and remote control guns. Think Berlin Wall, but betterer. Then half a kilometer before the border, there will be multiple sections of razor wire. Then more land mines. Then there will be a wall--the Great Wall of FTC. I would eliminate welfare and I would use the money saved to build a wall. A very tall wall. I would also sell advertizing that would be painted onto the wall. Perhaps even the naming rights to the wall. I prefer the idea for making money on the wall that Rush came up with today. Build luxury penthouses on the guard towers and rent them out for big money. His idea was that you could watch the goings on in Mexico like watching animals at the zoo. I prefer the idea that I have for "guest border crosser sniper" privileges for penthouse guests. I'm sure that there would be more than a couple of people who would pay big bucks for a week long stay with that sort of package deal. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 7:59:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean, is it immoral to shoot people to protect a place where nuclear weapons may be stored, as opposed to shooting someone who is just trying to come across a national border? Is that the question? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:00:40 PM EDT
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Raise taxes on money sent back to Mexico and stop the 1 billion in foreign aid we give. That'll be a good start.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:00:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's right,the wall wouldn't stop much at all.Over,under,through....... Supply and demand-get rid of the free school,anchor baby bullshit,welfare,tax "refunds",free medical care,no job if you aren't legal,no drivers license,etc and they will have no reason to come here. Properly built and manned with the right ROE would stop a great amount of illegal traffic. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:01:11 PM EDT
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You mean, is it immoral to shoot people to protect a place where nuclear weapons may be stored, as opposed to shooting someone who is just trying to come across a national border? Is that the question? How do you know? The US Govt. never announces the locations of nukes. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:01:29 PM EDT
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So she came here legally? No. Correct answer is to turn her back around and send her home. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:01:38 PM EDT
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Properly built and manned with the right ROE would stop a great amount of illegal traffic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's right,the wall wouldn't stop much at all.Over,under,through....... Supply and demand-get rid of the free school,anchor baby bullshit,welfare,tax "refunds",free medical care,no job if you aren't legal,no drivers license,etc and they will have no reason to come here. Properly built and manned with the right ROE would stop a great amount of illegal traffic. Like it did with Operation Intercept. Right? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:02:04 PM EDT
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Correct answer is to turn her back around and send her home. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So she came here legally? No. Correct answer is to turn her back around and send her home. You must have missed the story. Lots of people tried. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:02:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you know? The US Govt. never announces the locations of nukes. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:03:45 PM EDT
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Raise taxes on money sent back to Mexico and stop the 1 billion in foreign aid we give. That'll be a good start. So tax anyone doing business with Mexico, whether they are legitimate or not? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:04:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Google "Operation Intercept". You are welcome. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you think that at any point the ENTIRE border was secure in preventing all access, then I have oceanfront property in Death Valley to sell you Google "Operation Intercept". You are welcome. Im not talking about legitimate crossings .I'm talking about the ones in the middle of nowhere where people cross illegally EVERYDAY. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:05:03 PM EDT
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Oh please. Answer the question. Is your position that it is never o.k. to shoot someone who crosses a checkpoint? If not, where do you draw the line? National security? Isn't border control a national security issue? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How do you know? The US Govt. never announces the locations of nukes. Deadly threat seems to be the general line that society draws on shooting people. You know, like protecting nukes and other heavy weapons from bad guys. So you think the standard should be changed to "walking in the wrong place"? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:05:40 PM EDT
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Im not talking about legitimate crossings .
I'm talking about the ones in the middle of nowhere where people cross illegally EVERYDAY. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you think that at any point the ENTIRE border was secure in preventing all access, then I have oceanfront property in Death Valley to sell you Google "Operation Intercept". You are welcome. Im not talking about legitimate crossings .
I'm talking about the ones in the middle of nowhere where people cross illegally EVERYDAY. Well, how did Operation Intercept work out when they tried to close any part of it? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:06:33 PM EDT
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The world wonders.
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So she came here legally? No. how did she get her citizenship? The world wonders.
Sounds like a bullshit story designed to illicit feels. He should be a politician. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:08:29 PM EDT
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Don't hire Mexicans to build it or it'll be half assed and complete in half the time it should normally take.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:08:36 PM EDT
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The check will appear magically in your mailbox, just like the check from the lottery that you didn't enter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They can most certainly be compelled to pay for it. Without a doubt. I have a feeling you're right. The check will appear magically in your mailbox, just like the check from the lottery that you didn't enter. You've made your position on enforcing our national borders crystal clear. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:09:13 PM EDT
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Sounds like a bullshit story designed to illicit feels. He should be a politician. Now what's illegal about my feels? It was a long time ago, and there have been numerous changes in the policy since, so who knows? But ignore the reasons that people go through all that shit to come here. I am sure you can stop them with a firm "No." Just like you wouldn't move to get a better life for your kids. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:09:51 PM EDT
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You've made your position on enforcing our national borders crystal clear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They can most certainly be compelled to pay for it. Without a doubt. I have a feeling you're right. The check will appear magically in your mailbox, just like the check from the lottery that you didn't enter. You've made your position on enforcing our national borders crystal clear. You seem to know an awful lot for someone who can't answer simple questions. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:09:54 PM EDT
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Building a wall is useless. What we need to do is put remotely controlled ma duce emplacements about every mile along the border with NV and thermal imaging....and put signs up every 500 feet along the border.  |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:10:49 PM EDT
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Building a wall is useless. What we need to do is put remotely controlled ma duce emplacements about every mile along the border with NV and thermal imaging....and put signs up every 500 feet along the border. http://dailybuzzlive.com/wp-content/uploads/il_340x270.529154871_egd6.jpg Yes! We can fap to automated killing! |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like it did with Operation Intercept. Right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He's right,the wall wouldn't stop much at all.Over,under,through....... Supply and demand-get rid of the free school,anchor baby bullshit,welfare,tax "refunds",free medical care,no job if you aren't legal,no drivers license,etc and they will have no reason to come here. Properly built and manned with the right ROE would stop a great amount of illegal traffic. Like it did with Operation Intercept. Right? ? That is apples and oranges to wall with machine guns on top and land mines in a no man's land. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:11:32 PM EDT
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The wall won't work. . . no point in even building it. . . fuck trying to control our borders and shit.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:13:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes! We can fap to automated killing! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Building a wall is useless. What we need to do is put remotely controlled ma duce emplacements about every mile along the border with NV and thermal imaging....and put signs up every 500 feet along the border. http://dailybuzzlive.com/wp-content/uploads/il_340x270.529154871_egd6.jpg Yes! We can fap to automated killing!  |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:16:20 PM EDT
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Now what's illegal about my feels? It was a long time ago, and there have been numerous changes in the policy since, so who knows? But ignore the reasons that people go through all that shit to come here. I am sure you can stop them with a firm "No." Just like you wouldn't move to get a better life for your kids. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like a bullshit story designed to illicit feels. He should be a politician. Now what's illegal about my feels? It was a long time ago, and there have been numerous changes in the policy since, so who knows? But ignore the reasons that people go through all that shit to come here. I am sure you can stop them with a firm "No." Just like you wouldn't move to get a better life for your kids. You sound like one of those bible-thumping do-gooders from those churches in my AO that would empty-out every third-world shit hole in SA if they were given their rathers. Because of those pieces of shit my AO has seen a huge increase in Hispanic immigrants. They are affiliated with the same low crowd that wants to settle Syrians in the Shenandoah Valley. Fuck them. 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:17:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Deadly threat seems to be the general line that society draws on shooting people. You know, like protecting nukes and other heavy weapons from bad guys. So you think the standard should be changed to "walking in the wrong place"? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I jump the fence at a police impound lot they will chase me down and attempt to subdue me peacefully. If I threaten them, they will use deadly force. Why would these same ROE be unfair on the border? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Deadly threat seems to be the general line that society draws on shooting people. You know, like protecting nukes and other heavy weapons from bad guys. So you think the standard should be changed to "walking in the wrong place"? Becasue he FEELS there is a difference. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:19:53 PM EDT
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Now what's illegal about my feels? It was a long time ago, and there have been numerous changes in the policy since, so who knows? But ignore the reasons that people go through all that shit to come here. I am sure you can stop them with a firm "No." Just like you wouldn't move to get a better life for your kids. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like a bullshit story designed to illicit feels. He should be a politician. Now what's illegal about my feels? It was a long time ago, and there have been numerous changes in the policy since, so who knows? But ignore the reasons that people go through all that shit to come here. I am sure you can stop them with a firm "No." Just like you wouldn't move to get a better life for your kids. Her motivations are not relevant to me. That policy has not changed, your whole story is suspect. Maybe you're just incredibly naive or maybe you have an agenda. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:21:28 PM EDT
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I'm guessing it wouldn't take very many shootings before word got out.
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Building a wall is useless. What we need to do is put remotely controlled ma duce emplacements about every mile along the border with NV and thermal imaging....and put signs up every 500 feet along the border. http://dailybuzzlive.com/wp-content/uploads/il_340x270.529154871_egd6.jpg Yes! We can fap to automated killing!
Let me guess, you consider yourself "pro-life"? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 8:22:52 PM EDT
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Your not understanding. Trump said he'd do it so it's going to happen! Don't ask him how though... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is the same shitbag who addressed a joint session of Congress and spent the whole time badmouthing the US and blaming the US for all of Mexicos problems. Fuck that dude with a rusty cactus. Mexico will pay for the wall via tariffs. He is a stupid prick and is barely fit to push a mower or work a leaf blower. There will be no massive tariffs imposed on Mexico to pay for a wall. You realize that, don't you? Your not understanding. Trump said he'd do it so it's going to happen! Don't ask him how though... Instead of giving them 40 billion a year in foreign aid, cut it off and build a wall. Come on use your brain. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid |
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