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We can declare war on illegal immigrants. i'm fine with that. I believe there will be a tangible benefit for the tax dollars spent. If we have no difference in illegal immigration and less civil liberties in 50 years of that war, I will reconsider my position.
Show me or anyone else for that matter how after 50 years of a "war on drugs" that there has been a benefit? There has been a hell of a lot of costs involved. What is the benefit?
Less drug users?
Less drugs?
Less people in jail for drug charges?
Any of those thing happen?
Tell me how we win a war on drugs if we can't keep prison drug free?

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Not sure who you are arguing with....???  I agree with you.  Legalize one, legalize both.

As long as I'm not expected to carry around narcocane or put hands on junkies, I'm all for it.  Oh, and my tax dollars aren't spent on rehab, food, housing, or medical treatment.  


  Why would we waste money preventing people who want to work from working?


The argument for legalizing drug is exactly the same as immigration.


Victimless crime.
 
 

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So those people don't take jobs from citizens?



They don't get their kids educated for free?



They don't get welfare?



I'm missing your point.



Why don't you give us pros and cons for both (in the red) so that we can understand your position better?





ETA We have been fighting a war on illegal immigrants? We have lost numerous constitutional protections due to this war on immigration?

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Nope, I still need to see the pros and cons of what you are talking about because I'm not seeing the comparison.

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The national unemployment rate is 4.9%. Is 4.9% of 330M more or less than 13M?
What else ya got?
Here let me help you with a link that should end this BS.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/record-94610000-americans-not-labor-force/

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Sorry to hear that. So prohibition made your situation better, you are saying?

Just FYI, they did "bomb" the fields in Colombia, just not with napalm. Cocaine production increased. Is that the result you wanted?

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Actually, some of those operations did result in drops in the supply available in the U.S.

Which resulted in a price increase, higher crack use, and higher meth use.

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So?  People like altering their mental states.  That is a fact.  It can be to alleviate pain, to feel alert, to feel more mellow, or simply to alter how they feel in any other way.  Some people prefer to do this with naturally produced andrenaline and endorphins, some do it with caffeine, some with nicotine, some with alcohol, some with opiates, some with amphetamines, some with other stimulants.

The war or drugs does not stop this.  All it does is create perverse and often more harmful incentives.  If cocaine were legal, crack would probably not exist.  Had over the counter amphetamines, produced generally in quality controlled factories, not been banned, there would almost certainly not be crystal meth.  Were prescription opiates not so fervently controlled in the relatively recent crackdown on prescription meds, heroin use would probably be less prevelant.

And absent illegality, the bulk of the cash flow involved in the drugs trade would not be funneled directly into an untaxed black market, which is by definition criminal.  The current regime lumps society at large with all of the costs of drug use, from medical care, rehab, relatively pointless but none the less expensive prohibition enforcement, incarceration, and the like, while that same society receives almost none of the revenue from the trade.  Oh sure, asset forfeiture tied to narcotics enforcement does grab a staggeringly tiny sliver of the criminal cash flow, but not only is that slice of the pie tiny in proportional terms, but it is generally dedicated to offsetting costs purely on the enforcement side of the balance sheet, and as a side effect it also sometimes (though not nearly as often as GD believes,) snaps up revenue that had nothing to do with the illegal trade to begin with, and was lawfully earned.

Unless you can actually accmplish the apparent far-left goal of creating the ideal human, who will be content and happy to work for the public good and be satisfied with every moment of his existence, the war on drugs is a pointless fight.  It would be easier to legislate cancer out of existence than to win the "war on drugs."

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Except you couldn't taste them and you'd spill them all over your shirt.