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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:07:28 PM EDT
 Also filmed M193 (didn't fragment) and 50gr TSX (don't get shot with that round) those videos will be up soon-ish. If you guys wanna see come cool photos check out Aimed Research, link is in the description of the video. That's the guy I'm working with on these videos, he owns the Phantom cameras that cost upwards of $80k that were used in this video. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:08:15 PM EDT
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Holy crap the gel looks like it is farting at the end.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:09:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:11:32 PM EDT
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:14:06 PM EDT
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. Nice video. I'd like to see one with M855 for comparison. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:14:57 PM EDT
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How'd they end up with all that soot in there? Shoot it from about 6" away?
Getting hit with that would ruin your whole day. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:15:16 PM EDT
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Common anomaly with clear gel, no, your body does not become an internal combustion motor when you get shot. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:15:59 PM EDT
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? It looks like it. I wonder what caused that? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:16:00 PM EDT
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Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. ETA: Sonoluminescence. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:16:28 PM EDT
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Man that's an awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:16:29 PM EDT
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I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. That makes sense |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:16:42 PM EDT
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Common anomaly with clear gel, no, your body does not become an internal combustion motor when you get shot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Common anomaly with clear gel, no, your body does not become an internal combustion motor when you get shot. I've never seen that before. It looks pretty cool. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:17:13 PM EDT
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Would NOT wanna get hit by that
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:17:24 PM EDT
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How thick was the block?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:18:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? The flash/explosion in the gel hasn't been very well explained so far. The best explanation I have seen is that the hot bullet vaporizes some of the gel (which is flammable) and between the friction, heat of the bullet, and air being sucked into the temporary stretch cavity, as the TSC collapses it acts like a diesel engine and compresses the mixture of heated gel vapor and air until it explodes. You can see the exhaust gas exiting the entrance hole. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:18:56 PM EDT
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Awesome vid
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:19:00 PM EDT
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I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. I agree that it is likely dieseling of vapor gel material. At the apex of cavitation pressure in the bubble must drop really low. Some gel material turns to vapor. Bubble collapses, pressure rises and eventually the now-compressed and heated vapor ignites. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:19:50 PM EDT
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the cavitation in the gel is cool. never seen that before.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:20:02 PM EDT
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Hydrocarbons in the gel igniting from during compression of the TC. Similar to engine knock. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:20:06 PM EDT
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That was the most sexually satisfying thing I have watched in a long time.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:20:24 PM EDT
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Cool, thanks for posting. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:21:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. ETA: Sonoluminescence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. ETA: Sonoluminescence. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:21:18 PM EDT
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Hydrocarbons in the gel igniting from during compression of the TC. Similar to engine knock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Hydrocarbons in the gel igniting from during compression of the TC. Similar to engine knock. The flashes are also observed, though much more rarely, in organic gel shot with high velocity rifles. I suppose pig fat can also be dieseled. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:21:50 PM EDT
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That's why lungs turn to jelly...
Cool video... |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:21:57 PM EDT
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That's light, not fire. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. ETA: Sonoluminescence. That's just what Google tells me. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:22:11 PM EDT
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That's light, not fire. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? Yes. Observed often in Clear Ballistics, and sometimes even in organic gel. I think that's the air in the temporary cavity igniting as the cavity collapses and the pressure increases. ETA: Sonoluminescence. Though that is sometimes observed when shooting rifle bullets into water. It's a completely different effect, though. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:24:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How thick was the block? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:24:27 PM EDT
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Any chance of seeing that test in standard ballistic gel? I know that Dr. Roberts has not been impressed with the Clear Ballistics version's ability to accurately show tsc from rifle rounds.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:24:44 PM EDT
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Yes. The flash/explosion in the gel hasn't been very well explained so far. The best explanation I have seen is that the hot bullet vaporizes some of the gel (which is flammable) and between the friction, heat of the bullet, and air being sucked into the temporary stretch cavity, as the TSC collapses it acts like a diesel engine and compresses the mixture of heated gel vapor and air until it explodes. You can see the exhaust gas exiting the entrance hole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF? Is there a secondary explosion as the gel contracts after the projectile has exited? The flash/explosion in the gel hasn't been very well explained so far. The best explanation I have seen is that the hot bullet vaporizes some of the gel (which is flammable) and between the friction, heat of the bullet, and air being sucked into the temporary stretch cavity, as the TSC collapses it acts like a diesel engine and compresses the mixture of heated gel vapor and air until it explodes. You can see the exhaust gas exiting the entrance hole. Thanks. Dieseling had occurred to me but I didn't know that the gel was flammable. I was thinking powder residue or something. Regardless, the video is a great instructional tool. We qualified with M855A1 for the first time this year. No major score changes across my BDE. It did seem louder, but that is subjective. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:27:03 PM EDT
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Upped the shoot gel game with that one. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:28:04 PM EDT
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How thick was the block? Heavy penetration. Was there a little piece of bullet left near the front? I noticed the tip separated from the back towards the back of the gel. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:28:41 PM EDT
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Thanks for the compliments guys, I'm really proud of this video.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:28:47 PM EDT
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I'll be in my bunk.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:29:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heavy penetration. Was there a little piece of bullet left near the front? I noticed the tip separated from the back towards the back of the gel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How thick was the block? Heavy penetration. Was there a little piece of bullet left near the front? I noticed the tip separated from the back towards the back of the gel. This round is fucking rowdy. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any chance of seeing that test in standard ballistic gel? I know that Dr. Roberts has not been impressed with the Clear Ballistics version's ability to accurately show tsc from rifle rounds. But for real I've done another clear gel test with more info, and he did two in pig goo one from an SBR. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:31:34 PM EDT
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The steel tip came out of the side of the block, the copper slug penetrated straight through and out the back. This round is fucking rowdy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How thick was the block? Heavy penetration. Was there a little piece of bullet left near the front? I noticed the tip separated from the back towards the back of the gel. This round is fucking rowdy. Where did the jacket chunks end up? I'm curious how M855 would look in the same test. I expect better fragmentation damage and a wider permanent cavity... But probably less penetration by most of the projectile mass. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:32:15 PM EDT
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Also... Barrel length? Muzzle velocity?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:32:20 PM EDT
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Hnnnnnnng!! I really want to see the 50 TSX. When will that one be up? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:35:37 PM EDT
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Excellent video. Thanks OP.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:38:59 PM EDT
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Is M855A1 ever gonna be purchasable? Or Just 193/855?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:40:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did the jacket chunks end up? I'm curious how M855 would look in the same test. I expect better fragmentation damage and a wider permanent cavity... But probably less penetration by most of the projectile mass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How thick was the block? Heavy penetration. Was there a little piece of bullet left near the front? I noticed the tip separated from the back towards the back of the gel. This round is fucking rowdy. Where did the jacket chunks end up? I'm curious how M855 would look in the same test. I expect better fragmentation damage and a wider permanent cavity... But probably less penetration by most of the projectile mass.    M855 doesn't fragment as reliably or nearly as soon as this. And it doesn't drive a copper slug 30" into gel. The neck on M855A1 is about non existent. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:41:13 PM EDT
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Tag for once I get reception
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:42:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also... Barrel length? Muzzle velocity? Didn't chrono this exact round, but this stuff is about 2980 out of my 16" barrel. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:52:05 PM EDT
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Read the video description bro. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also... Barrel length? Muzzle velocity? You know you embedded the video, right? 
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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know you embedded the video, right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Also... Barrel length? Muzzle velocity? You know you embedded the video, right? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:20:01 PM EDT
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Amazing! Thanks for posting!
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:23:56 PM EDT
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Damn!
Thanks for posting! |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:25:58 PM EDT
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Also... Barrel length? Muzzle velocity? You know you embedded the video, right? I'm onto you... You're trying to get two views out of me. 
Ballistics gel can't melt steel beams. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:26:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: bluefalcon will be along shortly to whore out his own videos and tell you how much better pig goo is than clear gel lol. But for real I've done another clear gel test with more info, and he did two in pig goo one from an SBR. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any chance of seeing that test in standard ballistic gel? I know that Dr. Roberts has not been impressed with the Clear Ballistics version's ability to accurately show tsc from rifle rounds. But for real I've done another clear gel test with more info, and he did two in pig goo one from an SBR. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:33:27 PM EDT
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So where do we get M855A1?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:35:37 PM EDT
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You know we do.
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