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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:00:20 PM EDT
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ARFCOM does not like drones with cameras?
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:06:05 PM EDT
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First, learn to fly. Phoenix or Realflight are the best simulators out there. Use them, and save yourself a lot of time and money.
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:10:01 PM EDT
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Cheerson CX-10. No camera, but dirt cheap.
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:18:44 PM EDT
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I learned to fly with one of the early DJI Phantom's. No camera...just bare bones stuff.. As long as you don't get too aggressive with speed or acrobatics you should be fine. I've flown mine in 40 mph gust of wind, the gps does an amazing job of stabilizing the craft. I'm looking to upgrade so I can go FPV. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:29:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:32:31 PM EDT
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How old is she? Your budget is a little tight for something that pretty much flies itself. I have a Hubsan H107 that I am very fond of, it flies great. They come in many different configurations, at or below your price range. They don't fly themselves though, you have to have some pilot skill.
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:42:22 PM EDT
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How old is she? Your budget is a little tight for something that pretty much flies itself. I have a Hubsan H107 that I am very fond of, it flies great. They come in many different configurations, at or below your price range. They don't fly themselves though, you have to have some pilot skill. Yeah, the Hubsan is the best choice if you still want that RC "seat of your pants" feeling, where you have to do the work to keep it level and flying. It has auto-level and a drift calibration, but you still pretty much have to give the controller constant input to maintain control. I have an X4 H107C with the mini camera. Not real-time VR or on your remote, but has a micro SD card that it saves the videos to. It's my entry into the after-hours office "chopper wars". 
The others if you want it to be semi-automated and working harder with it's own internal software to maintain it's own stability. If you can go up to about $100 and your daughter is excited about Star Wars, the Air Hogs Millennium Falcon quadcopter has good reviews. The foam shell shaped like the Falcon offers good protection for the fans. (No matter what You WILL be buying more propeller replacements, but this design will cut that down..) It has good stability software/code to make it pretty easy to fly, even in tight quarters inside the house and has a good reputation even with some more "hard core" mini-quad enthusiasts. http://www.amazon.com/Air-Hogs-Control-Ultimate-Millennium/dp/B00U7EXH72/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449963430&sr=8-1&keywords=millenium+falcon+drone |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:43:55 PM EDT
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Hubsan x4 with HD. Spectacular little drone, but requires practice. Get extra parts. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:48:27 PM EDT
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Hubsan x4 with HD. Spectacular little drone, but requires practice. Get extra parts. Yeah parts are damn cheap, I have a pile of props, batteries, and body shells. Mine came with a prop guard, which is a good idea for a brand new operator but I hate how it flies with it so I never use it.
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ARFCOM does not like drones with cameras? Didn't search did you.  Several threads recently asking the same question. Here is one but not many people besides myself gave input. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1813026_Best_Beginner_Drone_with_live_camera_controller_for_the_kids_.html As in that thread I have to recommend the Syma X5C-1 or X5SC for no other reason than durability. I have beat the hell out my X5C-1, dropped it from 40 ft multiple times, crashed it into trees, had it stuck outside in a tree for 2 weeks, and it is currently stuck in another tree...all on the original parts. I have a WLtoys V686G, it has a much better camera but is a brittle and cheaply made toy. I abused it much less than the X5C-1 and ended up busting an entire arm off it, the landing legs off, and the battery compartment door. I rebuilt it, dropped it from 10 feet and busted a motor support. I cannot recommend that for a beginner. The X5SC is a redesign of X5C with stronger motors, it is rumored there is a stability problem in strong winds though. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:53:26 PM EDT
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Didn't search did you. Several threads recently asking the same question. Here is one but not many people besides myself gave input.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1813026_Best_Beginner_Drone_with_live_camera_controller_for_the_kids_.html As in that thread I have to recommend the Syma X5C-1 or X5SC for no other reason than durability. I have beat the hell out my X5C-1, dropped it from 40 ft multiple times, crashed it into trees, had it stuck outside in a tree for 2 weeks, and it is currently stuck in another tree...all on the original parts. I have a WLtoys V686G, it has a much better camera but is a brittle and cheaply made toy. I abused it much less than the X5C-1 and ended up busting an entire arm off it, the landing legs off, and the battery compartment door. I rebuilt it, dropped it from 10 feet and busted a motor support. I cannot recommend that for a beginner. The X5SC is a redesign of X5C with stronger motors, it is rumored there is a stability problem in strong winds though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ARFCOM does not like drones with cameras? Didn't search did you. Several threads recently asking the same question. Here is one but not many people besides myself gave input.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1813026_Best_Beginner_Drone_with_live_camera_controller_for_the_kids_.html As in that thread I have to recommend the Syma X5C-1 or X5SC for no other reason than durability. I have beat the hell out my X5C-1, dropped it from 40 ft multiple times, crashed it into trees, had it stuck outside in a tree for 2 weeks, and it is currently stuck in another tree...all on the original parts. I have a WLtoys V686G, it has a much better camera but is a brittle and cheaply made toy. I abused it much less than the X5C-1 and ended up busting an entire arm off it, the landing legs off, and the battery compartment door. I rebuilt it, dropped it from 10 feet and busted a motor support. I cannot recommend that for a beginner. The X5SC is a redesign of X5C with stronger motors, it is rumored there is a stability problem in strong winds though. The Hubsan is pretty dang tough too, the only time I've actually broken mine was slamming it into a building at about 20mph (flying at night and got blinded by a light). All it broke was a motor, which was easy to replace. The arms on it tend to pop apart when you crash, but they pop right back together. I haven't even been through that many props, and I've crashed it countless times. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 7:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Hubsan is pretty dang tough too, the only time I've actually broken mine was slamming it into a building at about 20mph (flying at night and got blinded by a light). All it broke was a motor, which was easy to replace. The arms on it tend to pop apart when you crash, but they pop right back together. I haven't even been through that many props, and I've crashed it countless times. Good to know. I was asking in the other thread but never got any feedback. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 8:01:58 PM EDT
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I have a Hubsan X4 I learned on. Getting a DJI Phantom next
The Hubsan X4 is a mofo in the wind though. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 8:32:16 PM EDT
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I have a Hubsan X4 I learned on. Getting a DJI Phantom next
The Hubsan X4 is a mofo in the wind though. Only if you've had a little kid, or a pet bolt off for the horizon have you felt the same kind of panic.
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Posted: 12/12/2015 8:43:25 PM EDT
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A great starter quad for her to learn on would be a Skywalker 1306, these are crash proof. When she gets good she can take the cage off and fly it. These are great for someone who is very young.
http://www.amazon.com/Walker-Copter-2-4ghz-Ready-Orange/dp/9269807096?tag=viglink20264-20  |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 8:46:23 PM EDT
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A great starter quad for her to learn on would be a Skywalker 1306, these are crash proof. When she gets good she can take the cage off and fly it. These are great for someone who is very young. http://www.amazon.com/Walker-Copter-2-4ghz-Ready-Orange/dp/9269807096?tag=viglink20264-20  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vtgj80Bgcg
That is awesome, I have been looking for just such a quad for my 5 year old grandson to get started on. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 8:48:49 PM EDT
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Only if you've had a little kid, or a pet bolt off for the horizon have you felt the same kind of panic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a Hubsan X4 I learned on. Getting a DJI Phantom next
The Hubsan X4 is a mofo in the wind though. Only if you've had a little kid, or a pet bolt off for the horizon have you felt the same kind of panic. You're right...I have felt that panic with the hubsan. Getting it going the wrong way at height and....panic. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 9:01:03 PM EDT
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Another fun one to learn on is the Dromida Ominus UAV. Its great for flying outside and can take a serious beating (crash proof). Its $79.
https://www.hobbyzone.com/dromida/quadcopters/DIDE01**.html |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 9:23:02 PM EDT
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Another fun one to learn on is the Dromida Ominus UAV. Its great for flying outside and can take a serious beating (crash proof). Its $79. https://www.hobbyzone.com/dromida/quadcopters/DIDE01**.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrn_kUxLEGIThat looks like it uses the exact same props and gear reduction motors as my old wltoys quads. They are horrible in anything but the lightest breeze, lots of wing surface area and lightweight is bad in wind. The non gear reduction quads like the others mentioned here do a lot better in higher wind speeds. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 9:25:04 PM EDT
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Flying is like drugs. It starts cheap and ends with you hanging out in parking garages after dark.
FWIW, I have had great luck in the Symas on the cheap end.  |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 9:26:25 PM EDT
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I have a Yuneec Q500. Absolutely amazing for photography. Easy to fly and stable as can be. It's no wonder idiots get in trouble with them.
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Posted: 12/12/2015 9:47:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a Yuneec Q500. Absolutely amazing for photography. Easy to fly and stable as can be. It's no wonder idiots get in trouble with them.  http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_240434.html?utm_source=shareasale&utm_medium=shareasale&utm_campaign=shareasale |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 10:33:13 PM EDT
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Compare size and what you get for the price.
I permanently broke the Syma on the second flight and returned it. The hubsan is tiny. This one has been extremely durable. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BLWPTMK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_vADwwbWWR2VRH |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 10:43:33 PM EDT
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Compare size and what you get for the price. I permanently broke the Syma on the second flight and returned it. The hubsan is tiny. This one has been extremely durable. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BLWPTMK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_vADwwbWWR2VRH I've had that same model for 3+ years, they are great in gyms, hangars, warehouses, etc but suck in the wind. The smaller Hubsan is much more compact and maneuverable in general, and handles wind way better. Actually my really tiny cheerson cx10 does great in the wind too. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 11:56:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've had that same model for 3+ years, they are great in gyms, hangars, warehouses, etc but suck in the wind. The smaller Hubsan is much more compact and maneuverable in general, and handles wind way better. Actually my really tiny cheerson cx10 does great in the wind too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Compare size and what you get for the price. I permanently broke the Syma on the second flight and returned it. The hubsan is tiny. This one has been extremely durable. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BLWPTMK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_vADwwbWWR2VRH I've had that same model for 3+ years, they are great in gyms, hangars, warehouses, etc but suck in the wind. The smaller Hubsan is much more compact and maneuverable in general, and handles wind way better. Actually my really tiny cheerson cx10 does great in the wind too. Any light quad is going to suck in the wind. Having said that, my FPV250 is diskheavy as heli and doesnt seem bothered, but is a lot harder to fly as a result. |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 12:06:25 AM EDT
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iv wanted a quad for quite a while
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Posted: 12/13/2015 9:38:22 AM EDT
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How old is she? Your budget is a little tight for something that pretty much flies itself. I have a Hubsan H107 that I am very fond of, it flies great. They come in many different configurations, at or below your price range. They don't fly themselves though, you have to have some pilot skill. She is 13 and I have been buying her the standard helicopters for the last few years, so she has some experience. |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 9:39:14 AM EDT
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DJI 3 professional.
You're welcome |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 9:47:51 AM EDT
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DJI 3 professional. You're welcome They look nice, but it looks like they start at about $1k...budget is $100 or less |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 9:52:53 AM EDT
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I had the Q500 for awhile it was a super nice quad. Have you seen the mini version of the Q500?
http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_240434.html?utm_source=shareasale&utm_medium=shareasale&utm_campaign=shareasale Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a Yuneec Q500. Absolutely amazing for photography. Easy to fly and stable as can be. It's no wonder idiots get in trouble with them.
http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_240434.html?utm_source=shareasale&utm_medium=shareasale&utm_campaign=shareasale This looks like it might fit the bill...anyone have experience with this specific drone? The full size versions are about $1k too... |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 10:30:49 AM EDT
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Syma x5c, and buy extra props, batteries, and motors.
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Posted: 12/13/2015 10:37:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks like it uses the exact same props and gear reduction motors as my old wltoys quads. They are horrible in anything but the lightest breeze, lots of wing surface area and lightweight is bad in wind. The non gear reduction quads like the others mentioned here do a lot better in higher wind speeds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Another fun one to learn on is the Dromida Ominus UAV. Its great for flying outside and can take a serious beating (crash proof). Its $79. https://www.hobbyzone.com/dromida/quadcopters/DIDE01**.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrn_kUxLEGIThat looks like it uses the exact same props and gear reduction motors as my old wltoys quads. They are horrible in anything but the lightest breeze, lots of wing surface area and lightweight is bad in wind. The non gear reduction quads like the others mentioned here do a lot better in higher wind speeds. Eta I have flown the syma x5, blade 180 and the blade nano. The dromida takes them all. Not even close. |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 12:38:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Syma x5c, and buy extra props, batteries, and motors. Extra batteries yes. Extra props and motors may not be required but always good to have on hand. I have the Syma X5C-1 and it is very durable. It was my first non-micro done. I crashed the heck out of it. First flight the wind took when it was about 100 feet up. It lost signal and crash into the road and worked fine afterwards. Second flight, at night, same thing. Found it 30 minutes later in someones back yard. Multiple crash after crash as I was learning to fly and it still functioned. Labor Day I got it stuck 50 up in a tree in Michigan at a friends cabin. Two weeks later he returned and found it. I visited a few weeks later, put a fresh battery in it and it flew like a champ. Got it stuck in a tree twice more that trip but recovered it. By recovered I mean shook the tree until it fell to the ground. Took it on a vacation and filmed over a swimming pool where the low battery light came on and it settled into the pool. I dried it out, put a fresh battery in it and it flew like a champ. Last Friday I was flying it behind my house and got it stuck 40 feet high in a tree. I was hoping the wind would knock it down but it didn't. Five more days of exposure including 3 days of rain. Finally knocked it down, 40' drop on to asphalt and nothing broke. I dried it out, put a fresh battery in, and the thing flew like a champ. All this on original props and motors. The fact that it is do durable makes it the funnest to fly, because I'm not concerned about breaking it if it crashes or hits something. I wish it had a better camera is all. I was wanting to go more advanced but there is now a redesigned X5SC and I want to get it even though my X5C-1 still works great. |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 1:02:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They look nice, but it looks like they start at about $1k...budget is $100 or less Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: DJI 3 professional. You're welcome They look nice, but it looks like they start at about $1k...budget is $100 or less |
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Posted: 12/20/2015 11:19:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2015 12:21:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe JXD509 is fairly new so reviews are barely coming in but it looks good so far. https://vimeo.com/143970392 Also you can find them a little cheaper if you look around the net. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FPV-JXD-509G-One-Key-return-Set-High-RC-Quadcopter-with-HD-Monitor-RTF-F16324-/281860371606?hash=item41a02ff496:g:~NUAAOSw4UtWTD7z |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 12:38:03 AM EDT
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Add on $5 for a registration/permit
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Posted: 12/21/2015 12:48:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Flying is like drugs. It starts cheap and ends with you hanging out in parking garages after dark. FWIW, I have had great luck in the Symas on the cheap end. http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af67/broken_reticle/quad.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQuEgVNAQhE that looks WAY too much fun for me not to be doing it... |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 12:58:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2015 12:59:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat is just disturbing. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 1:54:54 AM EDT
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The JXD509 is fairly new so reviews are barely coming in but it looks good so far. https://vimeo.com/143970392 Also you can find them a little cheaper if you look around the net. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FPV-JXD-509G-One-Key-return-Set-High-RC-Quadcopter-with-HD-Monitor-RTF-F16324-/281860371606?hash=item41a02ff496:g:~NUAAOSw4UtWTD7z Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://vimeo.com/143970392 Also you can find them a little cheaper if you look around the net. http://www.ebay.com/itm/FPV-JXD-509G-One-Key-return-Set-High-RC-Quadcopter-with-HD-Monitor-RTF-F16324-/281860371606?hash=item41a02ff496:g:~NUAAOSw4UtWTD7z Thanks for the replies. Most of those look like direct shipping from China or Hong Kong...do these usually come through without any issues? I wanted to have it by Christmas, but this looks much nicer than the Syma XC5 I was going to buy, so maybe it's worth the wait? Anyone know how this compares to the XC5? Thanks! |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:42:23 AM EDT
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Dang it.. the curse of arfcom has struck.. I came in here, just to read up on FUTURE drone purchases, as I'm just learning how to fly small "estes" brand mini drones and figured in a few weeks I could afford to drop 150 or so on a decent "big" quad, when I started liking the JDX509 package.. $120? Maybe in a few weeks right? Let's check ebay..
At $40 shipped, I decided to spend some of my dream rifle funds.. :( http://m.ebay.com/itm/JD509-FPV-2-4Ghz-4CH-RC-6-Axis-Quadcopter-Drone-with-2MP-HD-Camera-RTF-UFO-UAV-/141857484365?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202348%2526meid%253D347704b99f1641a3a64a0945b23da7e9%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D4%2526rkt%253D23%2526sd%253D141850841216&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460 |
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Posted: 12/22/2015 11:30:24 AM EDT
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Cause if this thread and the drone crash vid I bought 3.
I got two Dramida Vista's and also a MJX 600 Hex copter that has a "return to home" button and also a power throttle knob. Of these two which one would be better for a 12 year old kid who has never flown anything before? I was thinking the Vista was good because of durability then I saw the MJX 600 with adjustment to throttle it down. Two of them are gifts and I'll be keeping one for myself.
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Posted: 12/23/2015 1:48:24 AM EDT
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A little off-topic but kinda cool.
Robyn Villavecchia, former NASA engineer and formation aviation pilot, has found new life & youth by tinkering and flying the Phantom series. At the height of the Moon program, Robyn was developing fuel for rockets. Since then, this pioneering rocket scientist has never stopped pursuing her love of flying. |
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Posted: 12/25/2015 10:09:54 PM EDT
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So who got toys for Christmas?
And just go ahead and spend the money on a 250 FPV. |
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