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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:53:01 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure that Turkey knew where the plane was.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:55:06 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure that Turkey knew where the plane was. Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:55:12 AM EDT
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Probably baiting Obama into apologizing |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:55:43 AM EDT
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The Russians played a stupid game. They won their prize.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:58:35 AM EDT
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Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am pretty sure that Turkey knew where the plane was. Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. Then why does Turkey claim they didn't know the plane was Russian? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:59:12 AM EDT
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I believe it was a planned shoot down.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:59:31 AM EDT
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Then why does Turkey claim they didn't know the plane was Russian? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am pretty sure that Turkey knew where the plane was. Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. Then why does Turkey claim they didn't know the plane was Russian? dey lyin |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:01:15 AM EDT
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Finally somebody has the balls to stand up to Putin. Don't want your planes shot down stay out of NATO airspace.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:02:07 AM EDT
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Then why does Turkey claim they didn't know the plane was Russian? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am pretty sure that Turkey knew where the plane was. Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. Then why does Turkey claim they didn't know the plane was Russian? I'm sure they asked us "have any planes in the sky" and we said "nope". Who else is in the AO? French aren't using that route nor anyone else in that direction. They knew it was Russian and we're tired of their BS. ETA: They warned them the first few times they entered their territory and didn't shoot them down. I do t care if they hit it after it left their area. They needed to be taught a lesson. If Turkey tried repeated dips into actual Russian airspace they would have splashed them at first sight. What's good for the goose and all that. Someone called the paper tigers bluff. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:02:31 AM EDT
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Just trying to push to blame to anyone but themselves. Poontang is just mad because he knows that he looks like bitch right now.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:06:21 AM EDT
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I believe it was a planned shoot down. Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:12:24 AM EDT
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Don't care
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:18:01 AM EDT
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Just trying to push to blame to anyone but themselves. Poontang is just mad because he knows that he looks like bitch right now. I'm sure he's going to start WW3 over a downed plane 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:18:46 AM EDT
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I wouldn't call this good news
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:22:44 AM EDT
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Don't care Basically this. 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:45:50 AM EDT
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I for one, cannot wait to read the barrage of Russian conspiracy theories that stem from their propaganda attempting to deflect attention away from the fact they violated Turkish airspace and their general noncompliance led to them getting their ass handed to them.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:00:18 AM EDT
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We have evidence we did no such thing, Exhibit A - Obama's balls or lack there of.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:09:52 AM EDT
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Don't care But I don't want WW III to rain upon us. This time those bodies of water are not a safety barrier. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:12:43 AM EDT
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Turkey and Russia, when assholes collide.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:13:14 AM EDT
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Finally somebody has the balls to stand up to Putin. Don't want your planes shot down stay out of NATO airspace. How dare they fly over a tiny sliver of terrorist infested wasteland. That copilot deserved death. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:14:22 AM EDT
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Sounds about right. Obama administration is out of control.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:18:02 AM EDT
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Turkey and Russia, when assholes collide. Trifecta! It appears our asshole managed to insert himself into this mess too. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:21:11 AM EDT
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How dare they fly over a tiny sliver of terrorist infested wasteland. That copilot deserved death. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Finally somebody has the balls to stand up to Putin. Don't want your planes shot down stay out of NATO airspace. How dare they fly over a tiny sliver of terrorist infested wasteland. That copilot deserved death. Even if it's a shitty little worthless protrusion of territory, it's still their airspace. Why not just fly around it? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:23:38 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure that Turkey knew where the plane was. Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. Then why does Turkey claim they didn't know the plane was Russian? dey lyin Yep, they're full of shit. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:24:51 AM EDT
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I for one, cannot wait to read the barrage of Russian conspiracy theories that stem from their propaganda attempting to deflect attention away from the fact they violated Turkish airspace and their general noncompliance led to them getting their ass handed to them. Vodka doesn't melt steel Tovarish. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:26:13 AM EDT
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Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am pretty sure that Turkey knew where the plane was. Yep, especially since Russian jets were squawking ID and Turkish ground control scrambled 6 F-16's when the Russians left their base which is 30 miles from the border. Hadn't the Russian been flying similar flights for several weeks? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:31:35 AM EDT
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Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe it was a planned shoot down. Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:32:32 AM EDT
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Vodka doesn't melt steel Tovarish. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I for one, cannot wait to read the barrage of Russian conspiracy theories that stem from their propaganda attempting to deflect attention away from the fact they violated Turkish airspace and their general noncompliance led to them getting their ass handed to them. Vodka doesn't melt steel Tovarish. It just doesn't make sense! There is no way the Turkish could have done this without American help! I heard that American pilots fly F35's with F16 bodykits and fake Turkish mustaches! |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:34:57 AM EDT
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The Russians played a stupid game. They won their prize. ZFG Nope. Playing the smart game better than us. He's playing to people who hate the US and it only cost him one old plane. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:38:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if it's a shitty little worthless protrusion of territory, it's still their airspace. Why not just fly around it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Finally somebody has the balls to stand up to Putin. Don't want your planes shot down stay out of NATO airspace. How dare they fly over a tiny sliver of terrorist infested wasteland. That copilot deserved death. Even if it's a shitty little worthless protrusion of territory, it's still their airspace. Why not just fly around it? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:39:33 AM EDT
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Who cares if we "leaked" it anyhow? We're in the same alliance and have a joint base in Turkey. Joint air defense is a public goal of NATO - it's why we've all been rotating fighters through the Baltic countries...because Russians have a habit of invading airspace with their warplanes. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:41:53 AM EDT
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GD's cognitive dissonance, an example;
-Taqiyya means that no Muslims can be trusted to tell the truth. -The theological content of Islam means that all Muslims are the enemy. And yet... -Turkey is our ally and must be defended. -The Turks were invaded and simply defending their airspace, we know this because they told us so.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:42:17 AM EDT
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Fuck Turkey, don't care. When do they get kicked out of NATO so Russia can start bombing their ISIS loving asses?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:43:44 AM EDT
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I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe it was a planned shoot down. Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. There's already a power vacuum. Assad's regime is only exercising governance in a few areas that aren't Alawite dominated. Assad has no plan for governing the areas that are rebel or ISIS controlled. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:51:17 AM EDT
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Nope. Playing the smart game better than us. He's playing to people who hate the US and it only cost him one old plane. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Russians played a stupid game. They won their prize. ZFG Nope. Playing the smart game better than us. He's playing to people who hate the US and it only cost him one old plane. What's Putin's exit strategy? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:56:55 AM EDT
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There's already a power vacuum. Assad's regime is only exercising governance in a few areas that aren't Alawite dominated. Assad has no plan for governing the areas that are rebel or ISIS controlled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe it was a planned shoot down. Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. There's already a power vacuum. Assad's regime is only exercising governance in a few areas that aren't Alawite dominated. Assad has no plan for governing the areas that are rebel or ISIS controlled. I doubt that. If they are able to push the enemy back I bet he would once again regain Governing or whatever it is called in that world. Brute force etc... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:59:59 AM EDT
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How dare they fly over a tiny sliver of terrorist infested wasteland. That copilot deserved death. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Finally somebody has the balls to stand up to Putin. Don't want your planes shot down stay out of NATO airspace. How dare they fly over a tiny sliver of terrorist infested wasteland. That copilot deserved death. They chose to repeatedly fly over that section of Turkey for the sole purpose of provocation ... and they got called on it. This was a deliberate action on the part of the Russians. This was a deliberate action on the part of the Turks. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:03:01 PM EDT
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Probably baiting Obama into apologizing |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:04:24 PM EDT
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So for the first time in US history since 2000, something happened and it wasn't Bush's fault?
(faints). 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:06:19 PM EDT
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I doubt that. If they are able to push the enemy back I bet he would once again regain Governing or whatever it is called in that world. Brute force etc... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe it was a planned shoot down. Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. There's already a power vacuum. Assad's regime is only exercising governance in a few areas that aren't Alawite dominated. Assad has no plan for governing the areas that are rebel or ISIS controlled. I doubt that. If they are able to push the enemy back I bet he would once again regain Governing or whatever it is called in that world. Brute force etc... The alawites and Druze who Assad relies on as the backbone of his regime have had their populations wrecked by this war. Between the war casualties and the displacement Assad does not command the loyalty of a sizeable enough portion of the population to form a serious government. Maybe a coastal rump state. Best case outcome would probably be three states, a Kurdish majority state in the north, Sunni Arab state in the east, and Shia/Druze/alawite in the west. Pretty unlikely though, because the Sunni state would be comprised mostly of useless open desert, and the Turks will not permit and independent Kurdish government, especially one dominated by forces aligned with PKK. So maybe some form of power sharing government like Lebanon, but it seems unlikely to work at this point, Lebanon's secular state, as it is, seems perilously close from disintegrating at least a few times a year. In short, it's all fucked, really. And it's been fucked since at least 1916. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:08:19 PM EDT
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Turkey has not been a friend to the US lately. And I as for the commies losing a bird. Who cares.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:09:50 PM EDT
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We leaked a radar track? Oookay...
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:12:52 PM EDT
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Just trying to push to blame to anyone but themselves. Poontang is just mad because he knows that he looks like bitch right now. I'm sure he's going to start WW3 over a downed plane Didn't say that. They know they fucked up, but they aren't going take blame. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:15:58 PM EDT
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I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe it was a planned shoot down. Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. I'm ok with Assad running things but I want it to go on a little longer and fix a few of everyone else's problems. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:17:17 PM EDT
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Turkey has not been a friend to the US lately. And I as for the commies losing a bird. Who cares. http://i.imgur.com/uWcOOhG.gif Turkey HAS, however, been a friend of Obama. Obama is cooperating with Turkey in the fight against the Assad regime. Turkey is helping support the Islamist rebels that Obama is so in love with. Turkey also sent a shitload of shotguns toward Europe for the "refugees". It's almost Obama, Turkey, and the Islamist rebels in Syria (and elsewhere) against the whole world at this point, and that should scare the shit out of anyone with half a brain. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:20:47 PM EDT
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Turkey is not our friend
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:24:03 PM EDT
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GD's cognitive dissonance, an example; -Taqiyya means that no Muslims can be trusted to tell the truth. -The theological content of Islam means that all Muslims are the enemy. And yet... -Turkey is our ally and must be defended. -The Turks were invaded and simply defending their airspace, we know this because they told us so. Turks lie. Russians lie. turks and Russians have been hostile over their border for eons. Nothing new here. Just a hotter phase right now. Personally I could give two ###$% for either of them. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:24:20 PM EDT
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I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe it was a planned shoot down. Sure. As a result of a planned incursion. I don't know about anyone else but I am pulling for Russia to help Assad win and defeat the FSA and ISIS. I want Assad to rule with an Iron Fist. Russians and Assad are assholes, but with a power vacuum if Assad is eliminated, and the POTUS we have now. There is no plan for a government in Syria if Assad falls. Look at the mess I Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia when leaders were eliminated. I swear Obama is pushing for a massive Radical Muslim takeover of the reigon. I agree. Disposing of dictators hasn't worked out well. It's apparent that some people need a strong arm to rule over them. Is it fair? No it isn't. But the alternative to those people living under a dictator is the mess we currently see. At least we could dick slap the dictators occasionly and keep them relatively in line. The terrorists who have filled the vacuums created don't respect anything but the sword and we are not willing to use it like it really needs to be used. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:28:20 PM EDT
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Yeah it's our fault your aircraft was there.......and our fault somebody else shot it down....
Typical left wing commie projection Turkey shot it down Pootie Poot deal with them |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:32:28 PM EDT
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Turks lie. Russians lie. turks and Russians have been hostile over their border for eons. Nothing new here. Just a hotter phase right now. Personally I could give two ###$% for either of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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GD's cognitive dissonance, an example; -Taqiyya means that no Muslims can be trusted to tell the truth. -The theological content of Islam means that all Muslims are the enemy. And yet... -Turkey is our ally and must be defended. -The Turks were invaded and simply defending their airspace, we know this because they told us so. Turks lie. Russians lie. turks and Russians have been hostile over their border for eons. Nothing new here. Just a hotter phase right now. Personally I could give two ###$% for either of them. Agreed. I am just hoping one of the many posters who utilize this broken method of logic can explain it to me. |
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