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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car.
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I always dreamed of a high reving 4.0 liter V8 with twin turbo and all wheel drive, instead of a 3.0 V6. If they could get the weight down to 3400, it would be quite a car.
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Try working in an auto parts store, and listening to people complain about their Mitsubishis. It's enough to turn you away from them forever. They're about as bad as people who buy the older BMWs, thinking it'll make them "cool". All they do is make them "poor". Wait until they have to buy a battery for them! View Quote 2004 330ci here. My battery came from Walmart and was 100.00 Your customers are doing it wrong, or you are selling them stuff they don't need or don't know any better. |
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote How do you figure that? |
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Quoted: While the Starion and Conquest were good looking cars, They were 3100 lbs and I would regularly walk them in my 85 GLH T and in my 87 GLHS it wouldn't be close. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The conquest was better and easier to work on It hauled ass and could be souped up heavily. They're still in high demand While the Starion and Conquest were good looking cars, They were 3100 lbs and I would regularly walk them in my 85 GLH T and in my 87 GLHS it wouldn't be close. There weren't too many cars in the day that could hang with the GLHS and a stg II logic module. |
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What made them so difficult to work on, just not enough room?? View Quote The old school turbo cars everything was mechanical/vacuum based and in the 3000GT's case it was a transverse engine. People bitch about how cars become harder and harder work on as time goes on but at the same time the newer turbo cars eliminated alot of mechanical things and now have a computer taking over those functions. |
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How do you figure that? It appears he thinks "sports car" means GT car. |
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote The Miata is one of the only examples of a classic sports car concept available to the average joe. |
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Quoted: I tried to buy a used 1996 Spyder in 1999. When I took it for a test drive, the retractable hardtop broke with the roof at its highest point in its arc. I let them keep it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A technological tour de force. Neat for their time. I hated working on them. You could get that fucker in a Spyder variant as well, with a power retractable hard top. Just saw this on my local craigslist today. A unicorn. 3000GT Spyder Guy appears to have all manner of interesting Japanese sports cars. 2 NSXs, 280zx, 2nd gen MR2 (and a mustang). ETA: As somebody who has a couple of 80s toyota pickups, I really feel for those who have a lust for that era Japanese performance cars and live here in California. Getting older stuff to pass smog is a cast iron motherfucker and gets even worse as these things age and parts become more scarce. My trucks are pretty analog, I can't imagine nursing something full of what was once whiz bang and now dreadfully obsolete technology through our emissions testing. Our junkyards have a pretty steady selection of 80s and early 90s performance cars in them that look like they were probably driven there. The Starquest cars make me sad when I see them, I so lusted after those in my younger days. They had the top chopped off by ASR and converted. The car was ahead of it's time. The VCU was a nice touch A CEO for a food distributor came and bought one on his American Express platinum card. I tried to buy a used 1996 Spyder in 1999. When I took it for a test drive, the retractable hardtop broke with the roof at its highest point in its arc. I let them keep it. I would not have fo'd either. |
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I never drove a 3000 or the RX7, so I can't offer a comparison. But I really enjoyed driving my 300ZXTT. I don't miss working on it though... Who the heck thought it was a good idea to place one of the O2 sensors buried way down under the master cylinder and brake booster?
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I've always loved the 3000GT VR4.
I knew better than to purchase one though, half of the used cars out there for sale had something wrong with the transmission. I would really love to own one that has been highly modified to insane horsepower levels with a drive line that has been bulletproofed (if such a thing is even possible). I've seen a one-off build where a guy took a '99 3000GT SL and converted it to a RWD LS1, L460E with a VR4 rear end, which is supposed to be pretty strong. |
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Give the guy a break. These things have what, like 100 odd horsepower? Compare that to a car that has some real horsepower like an RX-7 or similar, the Miata just doesn't hold the same appeal. In before "the Miata is the only TRUE sportscar, blah blah blah" http://www.focusst.org/forum/attachments/focus-st-discussions/14012d1373994117-i-don-t-like-fwd-cars-miataposter.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Do you even sorts car brah? Give the guy a break. These things have what, like 100 odd horsepower? Compare that to a car that has some real horsepower like an RX-7 or similar, the Miata just doesn't hold the same appeal. In before "the Miata is the only TRUE sportscar, blah blah blah" http://www.focusst.org/forum/attachments/focus-st-discussions/14012d1373994117-i-don-t-like-fwd-cars-miataposter.jpg You have no idea what a sports car is at all and your "gay" bullshit is...................well..................gay. |
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You have no idea what a sports car is at all and your "gay" bullshit is...................well..................gay. View Quote Honestly Larry, no offense, but I really don't care about the true meaning of the word sports car. I respect the Miata for what it is, I actually have plans to buy one for myself and modify it into a frankenstein track car - but in factory form it's just not all that appealing to many of us guys for obvious reasons. Some of you folks here in GD try to make the Miata out to be something much bigger than it really is. It's a neat car, but it comes with severe limitations, while also suffering from being proportionally effeminate. |
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Honestly Larry, no offense, but I really don't care about the true meaning of the word sports car. I respect the Miata for what it is, I actually have plans to buy one for myself and modify it into a frankenstein track car - but in factory form it's just not all that appealing to many of us guys for obvious reasons. Some of you folks here in GD try to make the Miata out to be something much bigger than it really is. It's a neat car, but it comes with severe limitations, while also suffering from being proportionally effeminate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You have no idea what a sports car is at all and your "gay" bullshit is...................well..................gay. Honestly Larry, no offense, but I really don't care about the true meaning of the word sports car. I respect the Miata for what it is, I actually have plans to buy one for myself and modify it into a frankenstein track car - but in factory form it's just not all that appealing to many of us guys for obvious reasons. Some of you folks here in GD try to make the Miata out to be something much bigger than it really is. It's a neat car, but it comes with severe limitations, while also suffering from being proportionally effeminate. You don't care what a sports car is yet you tried to tell us what one is. In factory form, it is damn appealing to those who actually know how to drive. If by "track car", you mean drag car, oh please, but a stock Miata on a road course is a total blast. Do my Porsche and RX7 Turbo appeal to me more? Yes, but a Miata on a road course is a hoot and is far from "gay". |
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You don't care what a sports car is yet you tried to tell us what one is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes No I didn't. I am not going to attempt to argue the meaning of the word. I am simply stating that it's a pointless argument to make. In factory form, it is damn appealing to those who actually know how to drive. So is an alternative nimble car with a little more interior space and triple the power output. If by "track car", you mean drag car, oh please, but a stock Miata on a road course is a total blast. Uhh no. I am talking about a road course machine. Do my Porsche and RX7 Turbo appeal to me more? Yes, but a Miata on a road course is a hoot and is far from "gay". I am aware of this. But it still doesn't belong in the same group, category or class as other Japanese performance cars. |
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Yep, It is a heavy pig. I bought the sister car Stealth RT TT. That damn thing is so much fun though doing 140 and it still says "I want more"
Pay attention to AWD, make sure the transfer case does not leak, lock up can be catastrophic. Early years had problems with rear output shaft stripping. Plenty of parts are available and well supported by 3si group. |
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No I didn't. I am not going to attempt to argue the meaning of the word. I am simply stating that it's a pointless argument to make. So is an alternative nimble car with a little more interior space and triple the power output. Uhh no. I am talking about a road course machine. I am aware of this. But it still doesn't belong in the same group, category or class as other Japanese performance cars. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You don't care what a sports car is yet you tried to tell us what one is. No I didn't. I am not going to attempt to argue the meaning of the word. I am simply stating that it's a pointless argument to make. In factory form, it is damn appealing to those who actually know how to drive. So is an alternative nimble car with a little more interior space and triple the power output. If by "track car", you mean drag car, oh please, but a stock Miata on a road course is a total blast. Uhh no. I am talking about a road course machine. Do my Porsche and RX7 Turbo appeal to me more? Yes, but a Miata on a road course is a hoot and is far from "gay". I am aware of this. But it still doesn't belong in the same group, category or class as other Japanese performance cars. The comment was made that a Miata is not a sports car. That is all I have discussed and all this crap is pointless. A Miata is a sports car, it is the epitome of the term. It pretty much saved convertibles and sports cars when it came out. A lot what you are talking about is GT cars and is irrelevant to the discussion about sports cars. And a lot of those cars with triple the power and more room handle like shit and Miatas regularly beat them on road courses in sanctioned races. What's pointless is the whole "triple the power" and "more room" crap. Several of us were talking about sports cars and you interjected all that nonsense into a discussion about what a sports car is and you threw all that in and now tell us about how it's "pointless". It's not pointless to those of us that were discussing it. |
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What's pointless is the whole "triple the power" and "more room" crap. Several of us were talking about sports cars and you interjected all that nonsense into a discussion about what a sports car is and you threw all that in and now tell us about how it's "pointless". It's not pointless to those of us that were discussing it. View Quote Larry, this is a discussion about the 3000GT, not a history lesson about the origin of the term "sports car". It has a loose definition with a wide range of use in published literature. ATLDiver made an assertion that the Miata is not in the same class as the other cars and that turned into a discussion about dictionary definitions. |
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Dodge Stealth, AMC Eagle Talon, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Mitsubishi 3000... all the same chassis and power plant, all had available awd.
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Here's a pretty neat article about a guy that bought a well taken care of VR4.
http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/i-just-lost-25-500-on-my-mitsubishi-3000gt-vr4-and-i-c-1727993125 It makes me want to find one. |
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Larry, this is a discussion about the 3000GT, not a history lesson about the origin of the term "sports car". It has a loose definition with a wide range of use in published literature. ATLDiver made an assertion that the Miata is not in the same class as the other cars and now we are having a discussion about dictionary definitions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's pointless is the whole "triple the power" and "more room" crap. Several of us were talking about sports cars and you interjected all that nonsense into a discussion about what a sports car is and you threw all that in and now tell us about how it's "pointless". It's not pointless to those of us that were discussing it. Larry, this is a discussion about the 3000GT, not a history lesson about the origin of the term "sports car". It has a loose definition with a wide range of use in published literature. ATLDiver made an assertion that the Miata is not in the same class as the other cars and now we are having a discussion about dictionary definitions. No, he made the assertion that is was not a sports car. That's what I and some others were discussing. You crap is irrelevant to THAT discussion and that is what you quoted and started going on about nothing useful. Now you are just wasting everyone's time by going on about what you say you aren't going on about. And it does not have a "loose" definition. That crap is for the "you knew what he meant" crowd. Regardless, the Miata IS a sports car despite all your sidetracking. |
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Owned a '92 in my younger days. Fast as fuck off the line, to the dismay of many 911 owners that didn't have turbos. Limited mod capability unless you changed out the fuel pump and reworked the fuel injectors to deliver more fuel. I raised the boost and put on a straight pipe exhaust and it sounded mean as shit. Like most Japanese cars of the day, it rattled like hell after a couple of years.
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Dodge Stealth, AMC Eagle Talon, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Mitsubishi 3000... all the same chassis and power plant, all had available awd. I test drove a Talon TSI once. WOW! View Quote No they aren't. The Stealth/3000GT are one chassis. The Laser/Eclipse/Talon is another which is totally different. |
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Larry, this is a discussion about the 3000GT, not a history lesson about the origin of the term "sports car". It has a loose definition with a wide range of use in published literature. ATLDiver made an assertion that the Miata is not in the same class as the other cars and that turned into a discussion about dictionary definitions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's pointless is the whole "triple the power" and "more room" crap. Several of us were talking about sports cars and you interjected all that nonsense into a discussion about what a sports car is and you threw all that in and now tell us about how it's "pointless". It's not pointless to those of us that were discussing it. Larry, this is a discussion about the 3000GT, not a history lesson about the origin of the term "sports car". It has a loose definition with a wide range of use in published literature. ATLDiver made an assertion that the Miata is not in the same class as the other cars and that turned into a discussion about dictionary definitions. ATL specifically said the Miata is not a sports car and then implied the 3000GT is. At this point, the Miata is basically the quintessential sports car, and it follows the classic formula. The 3000GT is a GT car. The rest of the world knows it as the Mitsubishi GTO. Sports cars are usually more basic and spartan, like a Jeep Wrangler for carving around on paved roads. They usually don't have many comforts or much room for stuff. GT cars are typically bigger, more powerful, and more comfortable. Sports cars are for tearing around on back roads and race tracks while GT cars are geared more towards long distance drives, hence the "T" for touring. |
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How do you figure that? Well the convertible top is one thing; they do have hardtop though. Suppose I shouldn't be too harsh, I do like the Miata for what it is but I consider it a sporty car but I like a little more oomph under the hood. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How do you figure that? It appears he thinks "sports car" means GT car. No, sports car equals two seats but the Miata is a convertible and a tad less power than I like. I have no hate for Miata's but I don't put them in the same line as say a Lotus, Cayman, Corvette, etc. Y'all Miata guys can re-adjust your panties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Well the convertible top is one thing; they do have hardtop though. Suppose I shouldn't be too harsh, I do like the Miata for what it is but I consider it a sporty car but I like a little more oomph under the hood. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How do you figure that? Well the convertible top is one thing; they do have hardtop though. Suppose I shouldn't be too harsh, I do like the Miata for what it is but I consider it a sporty car but I like a little more oomph under the hood. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The old British roadsters created the term. The old MGs, Triumphs, etc started the phrase and none of them have "oomph" under the hood. Being a drop top does not preclude a car from being a sports car nor does a lack of power. Having a hardtop and having power doesn't preclude it either as long as it's two doors and two seats. |
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No, sports car equals two seats but the Miata is a convertible and a tad less power than I like. I have no hate for Miata's but I don't put them in the same line as say a Lotus, Cayman, Corvette, etc. Y'all Miata guys can re-adjust your panties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How do you figure that? It appears he thinks "sports car" means GT car. No, sports car equals two seats but the Miata is a convertible and a tad less power than I like. I have no hate for Miata's but I don't put them in the same line as say a Lotus, Cayman, Corvette, etc. Y'all Miata guys can re-adjust your panties. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have a Cayman. It is a sports car but so is the Miata. |
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Roadsters are a subset of sportscars as are GTs and supercars and pony cars and even muscle cars and 4 door econobox based homologation model rallycars.
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I had one that was all wheel steering and spent hours stripping it down and putting a half cageinto it.
Was crazy fast and was a blast to drive Sold it to a friend and he lost control and dropped it 12' into a creekbed. I miss that car |
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I was a fan of the Supra and 300z more so but the 3000 was a cool car. Wish the Japanese companies would offer some fun stuff without spending 911 money, I'm lookin at you Acura (NSX) and Lexus LFA. Don't start with the Yota/Subie twins; those cars need at least another 50hp to be serious. Lastly the Miata is really in a class by itself, kudos to Mazda for keeping that car pure but it's not a sports car. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How do you figure that? It appears he thinks "sports car" means GT car. Or a drag racer. Do you even live your life a quarter mile at a time, bro? |
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Bought a 91 Nissan 300ZXTT ...loved that car..Put a Jim Wolf kit on it just to get it up to 400hp which was decent back then. Once was making a beer run and ran into my ex-gf who was sitting in her new boyfriend's Ford Festiva with a rusted out floorboard..She left me because I was working full time and getting my MBA at night...Its like Karma was my personal assassin that day
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Way back in the day, when mullets were just waning, I really wanted one, but never pulled the trigger. http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae29/littleredman888/dac239fc34bb496c90c9c38189ad821a_zpsms7jisib.jpg View Quote Looks like 2Wycked. Carl approves. |
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