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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:02:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Tag and upping the ole post count
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:06:41 PM EDT
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No idea if it does or not, But based on the powers beheld in my brain regarding future,
The answers will be No. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:07:42 PM EDT
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I don't know anyone with a Noveske. I do have a friend with a Larue upper. In terms of 100 yard groups it blows the doors off my PSAs and every other AR I own.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:08:09 PM EDT
[#4]
In before the fanboys.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:08:12 PM EDT
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I'd be willing to bet most people who own Noveskes and Larues cannot outshoot a PSA rifle. Well, most people cannot outshoot their rifle, period. Most people. Not all.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:08:38 PM EDT
[#6]
I don't recall seeing a single PSA barrel being used in the MOA challenge. They're welcome to try though.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:10:13 PM EDT
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Didn't someone awhile back do a test that showed that Noveske and PSA's FN made barrels were essentially the same barrels?
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:10:50 PM EDT
[#8]
In.
FWIW My PSA build shoots just as good as my LWRC M6A2, but the reliability of the LWRC is supposed to be superior to the PSA. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:10:58 PM EDT
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The PSA barrels I have are all CHF FN barrels, they mil spec just that
So it would be silly to expect better than mil spec accuracy that being said I can keep up with BCM and Colts all day long |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:11:07 PM EDT
[#10]
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I don't know anyone with a Noveske. I do have a friend with a Larue upper. In terms of 100 yard groups it blows the doors off my PSAs and every other AR I own. Are your barrels chrome lined? |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:12:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Stripeknight thread
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:12:24 PM EDT
[#12]
No, but I'd be willing to lend my sub 1000 dollar (WITH OPTIC) BCM upper PSA lower 14.5" pinned and welded build for a comparison test.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:13:10 PM EDT
[#13]
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Are your barrels chrome lined? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know anyone with a Noveske. I do have a friend with a Larue upper. In terms of 100 yard groups it blows the doors off my PSAs and every other AR I own. Are your barrels chrome lined? Some are and some aren't. One is stainless AR stoner 18 inch in .223 wylde. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:13:19 PM EDT
[#14]
No. My 16" Noveske Recce is way more accurate than my 16"PSA 1/7. I have no photographic evidence.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:13:53 PM EDT
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I have a stealth upper and a PSA upper with the FN barrel. Both are pushing sub moa if I do my part.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:15:56 PM EDT
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Stripeknight thread that 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:17:26 PM EDT
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First two PSA listings I could find in the MOA challenge.
58. MSC182: BCM/PSA 5.56 16" middy build-HTG ARIS suppressor-Leupold VX-R Patrol scope-Hornady Steel Match 55 gr. HP. Groups: 1.143/2.349/1.330/1.550/.659 = Avg 1.406 = 1.34 MOA 59.TX_Critter: Palmetto State 16" Midlength - YHM phantom stainless can - 3-9x40 Nikon Scope, 55gr Hornady SP Handloads, Groups 0.914" / 1.831" / 1.525" / 1.584" / 1.051" = avg 1.381" = 1.381 MOA |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:18:09 PM EDT
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Wasn't impressed with my psa at first but admittedly it shooting damn near moa off of bags and hasn't jammed once, took a good 5 clicks windage to get it zeroed though.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:21:02 PM EDT
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Wasn't impressed with my psa at first but admittedly it shooting damn near moa off of bags and hasn't jammed once, took a good 5 clicks windage to get it zeroed though. On mine I thought I might run out of windage before getting it sighted. Oh well its a truck gun and shoots fine. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:21:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:22:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Will it outshoot them? Maybe not. Will it be able to get the job done just as well as the other two? Probably, depends on what you're using it for.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:29:47 PM EDT
[#22]
LaRue stealth barrel. 77gr Black Hills SMK @ 100 yards, no wind |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:31:37 PM EDT
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I have a stealth upper and a PSA upper with the FN barrel. Both are pushing sub moa if I do my part. Ill go with this. if someone handloads i bet they could get them close if not the same. if neither are CL. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:34:48 PM EDT
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I would never spend what Mr Larue asks for his guns. Nothing wrong with his prices just not important to me. Same for the late Mr Noveske's offerings. I don't believe in paying a premium because the accuracy is good enough for my needs. My PSA shoots as well as my Colt. Never failed me and is as accurate as I am.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:35:03 PM EDT
[#25]
#wat
#ibtl #ARdiscussioninGDistard #trollololol! #postcount+1 #whendoesschoolstart? #fanboyshootout! |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:35:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Wow another defend my purchase thread
A expensive boutique brand with some in house machining vs a mostly parts company that puts together different grades of uppers ( premium,ptac,freedom ) Vs a full blown machine shop that makes pretty much everything in house. Give them all a level playing field with good ammo and my money is on the LaRue. IMO two different AR rifle brands with the exact same CHF barrel same chamber etc will most likely shoot damn near the same. Now I'd say that one brand may be a hell of a lot more consistent but the other you can by three for the price of one . |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:37:18 PM EDT
[#27]
are you miserably fat and can't lose weight?
OR are you horribly skinny and can't gain weight? OH, i know, BOTH 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:38:14 PM EDT
[#28]
No idea but my 10 and a half inch PSA will bust clays all day long at a hundred yards with Wolf and irons.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:39:50 PM EDT
[#29]
My RAR in 22lr had a fudd screaming @100M shots. I made it look easy
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:40:27 PM EDT
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Stripeknight thread that http://image.architonic.com/img_pro2-2/101/5790/FineStripeInk.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/lego/images/e/ec/HeroicKnight.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121203132017 http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110425170723/easycrafts/images/6/6f/Thread_spool.jpg though. 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:44:29 PM EDT
[#31]
My PSA does around 1.25" groups (FF DD rail & 16" SS barrel) with any premium I have ran through it. I can't get anything to group below 1.25". It's funny because the cheap AE does 1.5" groups
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I won't bitch, got it last Black Friday as a Christmas present, it was a great price, and is a good plinker. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:48:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stripeknight thread  |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:48:38 PM EDT
[#33]
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Yep Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stripeknight thread Yep 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:48:47 PM EDT
[#34]
My PSA build can easily neutralize a human sized threat @ 100+ yards.
All I care about. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:49:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stripeknight thread that http://image.architonic.com/img_pro2-2/101/5790/FineStripeInk.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/lego/images/e/ec/HeroicKnight.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121203132017 http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110425170723/easycrafts/images/6/6f/Thread_spool.jpg though. Hmmm, least he has a sense of humor  |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:50:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stripeknight thread Yep  |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:53:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Who cares, I can have 3-4 of them instead of 1! Lololololol!!!!1!!one!bbq
My PSA and DelTon do what I expect if them. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:57:15 PM EDT
[#38]
My Noveske is more accurate than both of my PSA's. But my RRA R3 is the most accurate AR I own.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:02:51 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The PSA barrels I have are all CHF FN barrels, they mil spec just that So it would be silly to expect better than mil spec accuracy I have shot a few ar's. I have 1 that could probably break clays all day long at 100 yards. I only have that one because it is super light weight (it has m1 sights). Any other ar 1 keep better do a hell of a lot better. Hell, my 44/40 lever action can do that with iron sights. --- My larue is not set up for the challenge, but I would be amazed if it out shoots my RRA varmit rifle (but I will carry the Larue 9/10 times because that RRA is a heavy beast. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:07:22 PM EDT
[#40]
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I'd be willing to bet most people who own Noveskes and Larues cannot outshoot a PSA rifle. Well, most people cannot outshoot their rifle, period. Most people. Not all. Exactly...in most real world scenarios like shooting a coyote, it's not the .5" greater group size that makes the difference. Obviously the longer range you get, the more that .5" will be magnified. But most of the time, the man makes more difference than the weapon. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:11:15 PM EDT
[#41]
My larues will group better with wolf steel case than my psa's with fgmm.
Don't have any noveske, so I can't say there. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:26:24 PM EDT
[#42]
At 100 yards or under in my experience you can't tell a difference at all.
At 250 yards my nice guns seem to hold a very slight (maybe 1 inch) advantage. I'm not sure if it's the barrel tolerances trigger or what. If you're buying more expensive guns to try and get a better group you're just burning money. I'm sure there are people that can out shoot their guns, and while probably a big group of shooters think that is them, it's not 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:30:43 PM EDT
[#43]
I had a Noveske/LaRue once, I traded it in for a PSA as it shot way way better.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:33:23 PM EDT
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I had a Noveske/LaRue once, I traded it in for a PSA as it shot way way better. Are you 'alaska state troopers' drunk right now? |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:34:15 PM EDT
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If you post Larue's name in bold three times he might show up in this thread.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:35:19 PM EDT
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If you post Larue's name in bold three times he might show up in this thread. 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:41:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Stripeknight thread 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:44:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Nope, but my FN SCAR 16 does.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:46:46 PM EDT
[#49]
They all shoot better than me.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:49:52 PM EDT
[#50]
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I'd be willing to bet most people who own Noveskes and Larues cannot outshoot a PSA rifle. Well, most people cannot outshoot their rifle, period. Most people. Not all. This attitude is wrong, and it contributes to the fact that many here do not bother to try to get better. It is absolutely easy to "outshoot" some equipment. Of course, you would have to have some good equipment to learn how to outshoot the crappy equipment. |
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