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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:53:35 AM EDT
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I had a Uncle Mikes biggest piece of shit ever... That's observation has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. lol Quality thumb snaps are not so bad, you just have to find a good one. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:04:02 AM EDT
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IWB, no thumb break.
OWB, thumb break. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:16:51 AM EDT
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I wanted a holster for my new Glock 43 so I bought a DeSantis because it was available in a couple of days with prime shipping from Amazon-good luck walking into a gun store around here and finding a holster for a 43. I forgot how much I hate thumb snap holsters. Who buys these stupid things? I've never had a pistol come loose from a decent holster. I doubt I would survive whatever could knock my glock 19 out of my Kramer. Whatever. Buy what you like and perform well with. Or just like, YMMV. Me, I'll stick with my DeSantis Cozy Partner. I loves it. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:18:50 AM EDT
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Oh come on, you must have quality holsters, you know those thumb breaks belong back in the 80s Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s I agree, but then again I have a quality holster. Wilson Combat makes phenomenal holsters. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:35:10 AM EDT
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I've never had a pistol come loose from a decent holster. I have. It's kind of nice in south Florida because nobody cares when you drop your gun in the middle of Dixie Highway on a sunny afternoon, but I'd rather it stayed in the holster. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:41:04 AM EDT
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it's 2015, kydex is the only thing holsters should be made from, and as such, no thumb snap is needed. Uhhhh, no. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:43:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ever been to ECQC? My rule for a holster is that when fully loaded I cannot turn it upside down and shake the gun out of it. ( I hate thumb breaks too) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s ... Google, "Galco Fletch" Ever been to ECQC? My rule for a holster is that when fully loaded I cannot turn it upside down and shake the gun out of it. ( I hate thumb breaks too) Kramer's Holsters fit very tight...... It's hard to pull a Pistol out of one. If it's not on a Belt, yet it comes out smoothly.. When on Your Belt....... |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:47:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of great leather holsters with no strap. Look at Kramer, pricey but worth it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s I don't own a single plasticraptastic holster. They are difficult to love. I someone's Big Box of Holsters... Got a IWB for a 1911 for $25.... Got the Belt Scabbard for my G35 for $40..... Both are Horsehide & had very little wear on them...... |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:49:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having worked in uniform among crowds, I'm a believer in some sort of retention device. If you're not pulling it straight out, like you should, it binds... Doesn't slow down your draw, but makes it harder for someone else to take it.. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:53:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it's 2015, kydex is the only thing holsters should be made from, and as such, no thumb snap is needed. Both of my carry gun holsters are kydex. It really is a superior material for a lot of reasons. The only 2 places where leather beats kydex is heat resistance (don't leave kydex in a hot car) and finish wear. Kydex will get grit embedded in it and can wear the finish of your gun. Plusses are solid, adjustable retention, sweat and water resistance, durability, won't stain your clothes if it gets wet, stays open for re-holstering if using IWB, many are adjustable for belt height and draw angle, and plenty more I am forgetting. To quality kydex holsters are usually cheaper than top quality leather as well. And kydex is available in different colors, textures and patterns. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:55:06 AM EDT
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I bought a DeSantis ........ I forgot how much I hate thumb snap holsters. Who buys these stupid things?
Is this a trick question? 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:55:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I LOVE my ALS Safariland. I use mine with an M&P and a weapon light for my battle belt. A bunch of MARSOC guys that I worked with used these for their 1911's and G19s. No problems on SWCC boats, jumps, or swimming  Quote HistoryQuoted: I LOVE my ALS Safariland. I use mine with an M&P and a weapon light for my battle belt. A bunch of MARSOC guys that I worked with used these for their 1911's and G19s. No problems on SWCC boats, jumps, or swimming The older 6004 for My G35 with Light doesn't work without the Light.. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:59:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both of my carry gun holsters are kydex. It really is a superior material for a lot of reasons. The only 2 places where leather beats kydex is heat resistance (don't leave kydex in a hot car) and finish wear. Kydex will get grit embedded in it and can wear the finish of your gun. Plusses are solid, adjustable retention, sweat and water resistance, durability, won't stain your clothes if it gets wet, stays open for re-holstering if using IWB, many are adjustable for belt height and draw angle, and plenty more I am forgetting. To quality kydex holsters are usually cheaper than top quality leather as well. And kydex is available in different colors, textures and patterns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's 2015, kydex is the only thing holsters should be made from, and as such, no thumb snap is needed. Both of my carry gun holsters are kydex. It really is a superior material for a lot of reasons. The only 2 places where leather beats kydex is heat resistance (don't leave kydex in a hot car) and finish wear. Kydex will get grit embedded in it and can wear the finish of your gun. Plusses are solid, adjustable retention, sweat and water resistance, durability, won't stain your clothes if it gets wet, stays open for re-holstering if using IWB, many are adjustable for belt height and draw angle, and plenty more I am forgetting. To quality kydex holsters are usually cheaper than top quality leather as well. And kydex is available in different colors, textures and patterns.  |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 3:05:21 AM EDT
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Oh come on, you must have quality holsters, you know those thumb breaks belong back in the 80s Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s We used thumb break holsters. So you're better than the U.S. Navy, huh?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 8:18:18 AM EDT
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Have a number of snap holsters but no longer use them. So far my newer (last five years) holsters have held it in place.
Have fallen a number of times and have been concerned afterwards but it was always there. Yesterday fell pretty hard going up steps backwards .
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:16:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both of my carry gun holsters are kydex. It really is a superior material for a lot of reasons. The only 2 places where leather beats kydex is heat resistance (don't leave kydex in a hot car) and finish wear. Kydex will get grit embedded in it and can wear the finish of your gun. Plusses are solid, adjustable retention, sweat and water resistance, durability, won't stain your clothes if it gets wet, stays open for re-holstering if using IWB, many are adjustable for belt height and draw angle, and plenty more I am forgetting. To quality kydex holsters are usually cheaper than top quality leather as well. And kydex is available in different colors, textures and patterns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's 2015, kydex is the only thing holsters should be made from, and as such, no thumb snap is needed. Both of my carry gun holsters are kydex. It really is a superior material for a lot of reasons. The only 2 places where leather beats kydex is heat resistance (don't leave kydex in a hot car) and finish wear. Kydex will get grit embedded in it and can wear the finish of your gun. Plusses are solid, adjustable retention, sweat and water resistance, durability, won't stain your clothes if it gets wet, stays open for re-holstering if using IWB, many are adjustable for belt height and draw angle, and plenty more I am forgetting. To quality kydex holsters are usually cheaper than top quality leather as well. And kydex is available in different colors, textures and patterns. Quality iwb leather holsters are rigid and stay open without the gun in them. However they are bulkier than kydex. I am not crazy about two,piece kydex holsters. I am messing around with a couple of safari land plastic holsters, I think they are boltoron? Which is supposed to be stronger than kydex |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:17:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We used thumb break holsters. So you're better than the U.S. Navy, huh? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s We used thumb break holsters. So you're better than the U.S. Navy, huh? probably at buying holsters
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:19:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, but then again I have a quality holster. Wilson Combat makes phenomenal holsters. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s I agree, but then again I have a quality holster. Wilson Combat makes phenomenal holsters. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:19:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holsters aren't made for flippers. There it is. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:19:56 AM EDT
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If the holster has enough retention without the strap, why can't you just cut the fucking strap off and move on with your life?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:23:48 AM EDT
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once broken in properly the desantis thumb break scabbard is one of my favorite holsters currently
have you broken yours in? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:26:04 AM EDT
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Want a holster? Go to the EE. Millions of holsters for cheap... Millions!
Anyone who pays full price for a production hoster is just throwing money away. http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_7/161_Holsters.html |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:30:27 AM EDT
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I just bought a Simply Rugged off the EE for my G43 and its an incredibly nice holster! I'd normally carry my G19 on my belt, but just in case I ever wanted to the G43 I picked this up.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:42:15 AM EDT
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I have a thumb break paddle holster for a 3" 1911. DeSantis!
When you're a lefty, you want a holster that day, and you walk into a store and find one that fits your gun, you buy it. It's not bad. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:43:38 AM EDT
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I carried a P229 in a Fletch from 1997 through 2007 as a Peace/Court Officer. It is essential to have that level of retention when there is the
very real possibility that someone may try to disarm you. Edit - all my personal guns ride in kydex IWB, no additional retention needed; unless I'm on an ATV on in my UTV, then it's OWB, whatever's practical. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:50:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhhhh, no. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's 2015, kydex is the only thing holsters should be made from, and as such, no thumb snap is needed. Uhhhh, no.   -p. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:51:26 AM EDT
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Run full sprint for about 100 yards with your pistol in a holster, do some 4 count body builders, drag a dummy, low and high crawl...you will appreciate a thumb break.
Oh wait...gunfights only happen with you standing and the badguys at your 12 oclock in neat lines like the range.
Its funny when you are chasing someone and your buddy punt kicks his gun after it falls out of his holster...not funny for him...but funny
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:52:07 AM EDT
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Haven't yet lost a gun out of my Professional 100 holsters. No thumb snap on those.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:53:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Run full sprint for about 100 yards with your pistol in a holster, do some 4 count body builders, drag a dummy, low and high crawl...you will appreciate a thumb break. Oh wait...gunfights only happen with you standing and the badguys at your 12 oclock in neat lines like the range. Its funny when you are chasing someone and your buddy punt kicks his gun after it falls out of his holster...not funny for him...but funny Is he 55 and rocking the clam shell? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:05:18 PM EDT
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For that gun Kydex is the answer you seek.
I like leather and have some great quality leather from Mitch Rosen, HBE, FIST, ETC But for that little gun I like my kydex Aimless have you tried Ritchie Gun Leather? I think they are a NY company too. He was a protege of Lou Alessi. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:08:48 PM EDT
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I like them, but I can't use them at work anymore because I am now limited to one style of holster. Nothing wrong with a good thumb snap holster. I used the Safariland 518 because the paddle is very comfortable and secure.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:17:02 PM EDT
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we have the same one for the wife's G43, we don't like it either.
Speed |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:21:07 PM EDT
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I have never come close to losing a pistol out of a holster Try getting out of the office a bit. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:23:29 PM EDT
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I have a Fletch I use for my 1911 when hunting. Otherwise I use an El Paso Saddlery Crosshair. Very secure. But if I was OC'ing, I'd use the thumbstrap.
And leather is better. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 4:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Run full sprint for about 100 yards with your pistol in a holster, do some 4 count body builders, drag a dummy, low and high crawl...you will appreciate a thumb break. Oh wait...gunfights only happen with you standing and the badguys at your 12 oclock in neat lines like the range. Its funny when you are chasing someone and your buddy punt kicks his gun after it falls out of his holster...not funny for him...but funny If you unsnap the thumb break & turn the holster upside down, the pistol would fall out... I do have a BladeTech Tactical Holster, that the thumb break is a secondary retention devise... All of my Kramer Holsters, will retain the pistol, without any other retention devise needed.... I'd love to see a report where a semi auto pistol, bounced out of a Kramer holster, in good shape..... |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 5:13:03 PM EDT
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Listening to the comical stories of cops jumping neighborhood fences, yes, you need a retention strap if you're active.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 5:20:25 PM EDT
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My agency requires holsters with retention. Also I grew up with a thumb-break holster, so I must respectfully disagree. I like thumb breaks. And leather hides better than plastic.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 5:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGod I hated those holsters...yeah they were secure as hell, but those stupid Plastic straps cracked and broke within a year or two |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 6:11:48 PM EDT
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it's 2015, kydex is the only thing holsters should be made from, and as such, no thumb snap is needed. I prefer dead critter. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 6:15:13 PM EDT
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ALS has made any thumb break completely obsolete. Unless you absolutely have to have leather.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 6:15:49 PM EDT
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I wear one when I ride my bike because I really don't want a potential bad day to get worse because of level one retention. past that, yeah, they suck. Always carry my G27 in a thumb break while biking or kayaking. Came in really handy last yr went I went upside down in the kayak (on a river) in water over my head. Gun was right where it was supposed to be when I surfaced because of retention. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 6:23:02 PM EDT
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I like them for, riding the ATV motorcycle, and general carry whats not to like?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 6:27:03 PM EDT
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sadly enough all I have for my "carry" pieces are flap holsters
I need to find some better leather for my antiques (which is all I can carry up here, and then only in the bush) I dislike thumbsnap holsters too |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 6:33:05 PM EDT
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Having worked in uniform among crowds, I'm a believer in some sort of retention device. Especially in uniform I agree, but with advent of single-hand retention (Safariland 6xxx, Blade-Tech WRS or Serpa) the thumb snap you need two hands to re-secure is obsolete. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Run full sprint for about 100 yards with your pistol in a holster, do some 4 count body builders, drag a dummy, low and high crawl...you will appreciate a thumb break. Oh wait...gunfights only happen with you standing and the badguys at your 12 oclock in neat lines like the range. Its funny when you are chasing someone and your buddy punt kicks his gun after it falls out of his holster...not funny for him...but funny I did buy a safariland "concealed"( it's pretty big) holster that has a retention doohickey on the top you hit with your thumb. I'd use that before a slow grandpa thumbstap holster. But I've run, ridden atvs, fallen down a hill into river never lost a pistol. I was talking to some plainclothes cop last week and his holster had no strap, although I have no idea what kind it was. He was all over the Adiondacks chasing those two escaped murders through swamps, over mountains and under bushes I assume with that holster |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:06:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try getting out of the office a bit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have never come close to losing a pistol out of a holster Try getting out of the office a bit. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh come on, you must have quality holsters, you know those thumb breaks belong back in the 80s Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s But everyday carry I do not |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:12:45 PM EDT
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Holsters, don't need one and don't want one.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:14:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know what the fletch is. I like Galco and all, I have had a few thumb breaks but stopped using them at least ten years ago. I have never come close to losing a pistol out of a holster Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... Everyone is different. I prefer them, especially for 1911s ... Google, "Galco Fletch" But you still carry right? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holsters, don't need one and don't want one. |
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