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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 6:17:37 AM EDT
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Didnt they try a no smut gentleman's magazine years ago?
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This times eleventy billion.  Of course, I don't have any daughters
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 6:57:54 AM EDT
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I’m still impressed that Hef could keep that gravy train going as long as he did.  Could you imagine that life?



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Hef is proof of the devil.

he sold his soul with a great contract.

what happens when he gets too old and can't fuck all those hotties anymore?

Viagra comes out.

You think that shit is coincidence?
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 7:07:59 AM EDT
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Gee, ya think?

IB4 ARFcom group buy of Playboy mansion with bunnies included.
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Internet porn killed Playboy.  



Gee, ya think?

IB4 ARFcom group buy of Playboy mansion with bunnies included.


Does it have a basement?
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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 7:39:28 AM EDT
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Last one out get the lights.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 7:41:09 AM EDT
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This is the end of America and the American way of life.

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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 7:42:16 AM EDT
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Hustler put Playboy in a headlock and gave it a nuggee.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 7:48:31 AM EDT
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Hef is proof of the devil.

he sold his soul with a great contract.

what happens when he gets too old and can't fuck all those hotties anymore?

Viagra comes out.

You think that shit is coincidence?
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I’m still impressed that Hef could keep that gravy train going as long as he did.  Could you imagine that life?





Hef is proof of the devil.

he sold his soul with a great contract.

what happens when he gets too old and can't fuck all those hotties anymore?

Viagra comes out.

You think that shit is coincidence?



Hef is so damn old he probably isn't even calling the shot anymore.

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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 7:49:00 AM EDT
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This is the end of America and the American way of life.

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Didn't they say that when he first started publishing the magazine?
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 8:11:56 AM EDT
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Even Maxim's not Maxim these days.

Everybody is trying to target the same buyers.

Maxim's circulation has been more than Playboy's for some time. Naked chicks just don't have the same cachet that the used to.
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So it is gonna be like the new Maxim? A bunch of metro faggot fashion shit for men?


Even Maxim's not Maxim these days.

Everybody is trying to target the same buyers.

Maxim's circulation has been more than Playboy's for some time. Naked chicks just don't have the same cachet that the used to.


What happened with Maxim?  I had subscribed for a number of years when I got it for like 5 bucks a year.  They completely lost all credibility when they named Moochelle one of the 100 hottest women.  So pathetically beta wrong I never looked at them since.  

Internet has killed printed smut.  Who leaves Playboys out on their bookshelf?  Everyone tucks them away somewhere, and that's the thing, they're heavy and take up space.


Sounds like a stupid gamble to me - the article says the brand makes a lot of money world wide, so they write off the loss with the print as their "Fifth Avenue storefront."  Now they are fucking with the storefront, so what will it do to the brand's image?  Probably sink it.  The day Playboy is no longer Playboy.

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I don't really give a rip what happens to Hefner or his business, but played right it could transform itself into a platform of the hipster "ljbertarian" set.
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This will end badly.

For Playboy Magazine.

Aloha, Mark


I don't really give a rip what happens to Hefner or his business, but played right it could transform itself into a platform of the hipster "ljbertarian" set.

I can tell you've never read the articles
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:02:15 AM EDT
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Hey, let's alienate our last 800,000 computer-phobic customers!


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Several years ago I clicked on a link that took me to some porn site.  I could not get out of it except to power down the computer.

I do my best to avoid any porn site which by the comments here must still be common on the internet.

I always enjoyed reading the centerfold playmate's interests, hobbies and background.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:04:09 AM EDT
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Even in 1980, I was a Penthouse man (kid).  Then Hustler, High Society, etc.  I moved on to Private in the 90's, then the internet in the mid 90's and on.  Playboy was never a nut-getter anyway.  

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OMG!  I'm dying over here...  
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:27:04 AM EDT
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This move is sure to increase sales.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:29:16 AM EDT
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I see no reason for any subscriber to continue if the publishers want to rebrand themselves as a Maxim alternative.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:32:09 AM EDT
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People still pay money for porn?

Swank got my money as an early teen 100 to 1 over playboy. Never seen a spread goober and dingleberry in playboy...
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Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:40:57 AM EDT
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Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.
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People still pay money for porn?

Swank got my money as an early teen 100 to 1 over playboy. Never seen a spread goober and dingleberry in playboy...


Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.


Interesting take... and now, no more pubic hair... I guess that sealed its fate.

We still get nipples though. Yummy, frosted nipples.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:42:01 AM EDT
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I’m still impressed that Hef could keep that gravy train going as long as he did.  Could you imagine that life?



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Phrasing.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:57:38 AM EDT
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They have to do something - internet has made their porn obsolete, but they see magazines like Men's Health and GQ doing well.  Funny part - they fought to change society, and they won.  Marriage has all but been destroyed.  Random sex has never been more common.  Men today want to be "playboys" more than ever.

 
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 9:58:59 AM EDT
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The internet, print is going away



They could sell online subscriptions, but there's free images all over



 
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:01:17 AM EDT
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Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.
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People still pay money for porn?

Swank got my money as an early teen 100 to 1 over playboy. Never seen a spread goober and dingleberry in playboy...


Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.

If naked women doesn't qualify as porn to you, what does,
It is definitely on the softer side of porn by todays standards, but in its heyday it qualified
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:03:38 AM EDT
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If naked women doesn't qualify as porn to you, what does,
It is definitely on the softer side of porn by todays standards, but in its heyday it qualified
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People still pay money for porn?

Swank got my money as an early teen 100 to 1 over playboy. Never seen a spread goober and dingleberry in playboy...


Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.

If naked women doesn't qualify as porn to you, what does,
It is definitely on the softer side of porn by todays standards, but in its heyday it qualified



I guess I'm pretty desensitized to basic nudity.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:06:01 AM EDT
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If naked women doesn't qualify as porn to you, what does,
It is definitely on the softer side of porn by todays standards, but in its heyday it qualified
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People still pay money for porn?

Swank got my money as an early teen 100 to 1 over playboy. Never seen a spread goober and dingleberry in playboy...


Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.

If naked women doesn't qualify as porn to you, what does,
It is definitely on the softer side of porn by todays standards, but in its heyday it qualified






pornography
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1.
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, especially those having little or no artistic merit.


That being said, it is my opinion that a nude woman or women can be art.

Nudity does not always reflect sex.

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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:29:18 AM EDT
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All of about six pages of naked women somewhere throughout all those ads for mens underwear, shoes, cologne, watches / jewelry and product reviews ( which are just lengthy ads ) for things most people can't afford and likely wouldn't buy if they could. Such as five thousand dollar wine racks and stupid trinkets like that. Then the interviews with people I barely ever heard of plus slanted news. What are they up to a hundred or so pages of that crap? Probably more pics of men in that thing in all those ads. Is what killed Playboy.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:33:31 AM EDT
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That is like a porn company deciding to go make "mainstream" B movies and hiring actual actors who do no have sex on scene. It could be successful, COULD, but the odds are it is going to not work out like the officers of company want it too.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:39:17 AM EDT
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That is like a porn company deciding to go make "mainstream" B movies and hiring actual actors who do no have sex on scene. It could be successful, COULD, but the odds are it is going to not work out like the officers of company want it too.
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'Caligula' was supposed to change the dynamic of movie making by normalizing x-rated content into adult mainstream movie making. Didn't work out.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:41:25 AM EDT
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And that's the end of Playboy.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:42:39 AM EDT
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This times eleventy billion.  Of course, I don't have any daughters
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This times eleventy billion.  Of course, I don't have any daughters


I knew a girl that was in one of them. She sat by me in class. She was always nice to me.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:42:44 AM EDT
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Yeah...Maxim has the "acceptable to publicly read porn" market already.
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Hef is so damn old he probably isn't even calling the shot anymore.

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I’m still impressed that Hef could keep that gravy train going as long as he did.  Could you imagine that life?





Hef is proof of the devil.

he sold his soul with a great contract.

what happens when he gets too old and can't fuck all those hotties anymore?

Viagra comes out.

You think that shit is coincidence?



Hef is so damn old he probably isn't even calling the shot anymore.

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Hef's daughter was in charge last I heard, some article about her being a woman in charge of the iconic brand or some BS. Hef is a figure head who is living on the Playboy Corp dime, which includes the upkeep and maintenance of the Playboy Mansion, which angered the heck out of the Corp stockholders for years.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:45:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:55:14 AM EDT
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I think it is a bold move.  Is anyone who is looking for porn still buying playboy?  That seems like a very small market.  If playboy is going to survive, it has to become something else.  I am doubtful they will succeed, because I think all print magazines, like newspapers, are in a death spiral anyways.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 10:59:14 AM EDT
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We'll see how good the articles really were.. Or are.
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I keep thinking back, and trying to figure out exactly where it happened.   At some point, I was clearly transported from Planet Earth to Bizarro World.   Near as I can tell, it happened between 2004 and 2007.   But the world just no longer meets any of my preconceived opinions or aligns with the practical knowledge I have accumulated.

I'm only 41 years old... not nearly old enough to feel this way yet.  Something is out of balance out there.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:00:57 AM EDT
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  Except that Playboy would publish the occasional nude celeb who wouldn't pose for less "reputable" magazines.  The same goes for groups amateurs (girls of Starbucks, Home Depot, Walmart, etc).
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So it is gonna be like the new Maxim? A bunch of metro faggot fashion shit for men?


Even Maxim's not Maxim these days.

Everybody is trying to target the same buyers.

Maxim's circulation has been more than Playboy's for some time. Naked chicks just don't have the same cachet that the used to.

  Except that Playboy would publish the occasional nude celeb who wouldn't pose for less "reputable" magazines.  The same goes for groups amateurs (girls of Starbucks, Home Depot, Walmart, etc).


Good point. That does seem to be a niche that they owned for themselves. I wonder if they could or would still do special editions, lest we be deprived of chances to see modern-day starlets naked.
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I keep thinking back, and trying to figure out exactly where it happened.   At some point, I was clearly transported from Planet Earth to Bizarro World.   Near as I can tell, it happened between 2004 and 2007.   But the world just no longer meets any of my preconceived opinions or aligns with the practical knowledge I have accumulated.

I'm only 41 years old... not nearly old enough to feel this way yet.  Something is out of balance out there.
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I keep thinking back, and trying to figure out exactly where it happened.   At some point, I was clearly transported from Planet Earth to Bizarro World.   Near as I can tell, it happened between 2004 and 2007.   But the world just no longer meets any of my preconceived opinions or aligns with the practical knowledge I have accumulated.

I'm only 41 years old... not nearly old enough to feel this way yet.  Something is out of balance out there.



I concur. I'm also 41 and since 07' and felt like I'm living in the twilight zone ever since.

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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:04:17 AM EDT
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Bingo
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:07:25 AM EDT
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  In a lot of the world, nudity is just nudity.  Hell, in a lot of western countries breasts aren't considered nudity.
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People still pay money for porn?

Swank got my money as an early teen 100 to 1 over playboy. Never seen a spread goober and dingleberry in playboy...


Playboy was never really "porn" to begin with.
It had the same content as most European rags. Essentially Maxim with pubic hair.

If naked women doesn't qualify as porn to you, what does,
It is definitely on the softer side of porn by todays standards, but in its heyday it qualified

  In a lot of the world, nudity is just nudity.  Hell, in a lot of western countries breasts aren't considered nudity.



I have to assume many members here have never been to beaches in Europe.

You would see women wearing only a thongs and smiles for miles. You would see a mother at the beach with her kids, nearly naked and it isn't a big deal. The girl you'd be trying to pick up at the bar later, you saw her topless at the beach a few hours before.



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I concur. I'm also 41 and since 07' and felt like I'm living in the twilight zone ever since.

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I keep thinking back, and trying to figure out exactly where it happened.   At some point, I was clearly transported from Planet Earth to Bizarro World.   Near as I can tell, it happened between 2004 and 2007.   But the world just no longer meets any of my preconceived opinions or aligns with the practical knowledge I have accumulated.

I'm only 41 years old... not nearly old enough to feel this way yet.  Something is out of balance out there.



I concur. I'm also 41 and since 07' and felt like I'm living in the twilight zone ever since.

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...more of the same at 45

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:14:57 AM EDT
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Video killed the magazine star...
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 11:17:30 AM EDT
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Playboy and The Quarter Horse Journal used to arrive on the same day. I figured Playboy was toast when I started reading the Journal first.
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pornography
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That being said, it is my opinion that a nude woman or women can be art.

Nudity does not always reflect sex.

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So you see Playboy as primarily artistic because its presented in a softer manner than say, Hustler?
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Hef's daughter was in charge last I heard, some article about her being a woman in charge of the iconic brand or some BS. Hef is a figure head who is living on the Playboy Corp dime, which includes the upkeep and maintenance of the Playboy Mansion, which angered the heck out of the Corp stockholders for years.
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Hef's daughter was in charge last I heard, some article about her being a woman in charge of the iconic brand or some BS. Hef is a figure head who is living on the Playboy Corp dime, which includes the upkeep and maintenance of the Playboy Mansion, which angered the heck out of the Corp stockholders for years.

To hear some of his ex-girlfriends talk there isn't a whole lot of maintenance going on at the mansion.
Threadbare, funky smelly dirty squalor.
As for the stockholders, they wouldn't have a product to invest in at all if it wasn't for the efforts of the old guy they'd love to shuffle off stage left
His son from the Playmate is about college aged now and I think they're trying to make him the face of the brand now
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  In a lot of the world, nudity is just nudity.  Hell, in a lot of western countries breasts aren't considered nudity.

I have to assume many members here have never been to beaches in Europe.

You would see women wearing only a thongs and smiles for miles. You would see a mother at the beach with her kids, nearly naked and it isn't a big deal. The girl you'd be trying to pick up at the bar later, you saw her topless at the beach a few hours before.

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I know the US tends to be a little more repressed sexually but I still think all nudity short of actual artistic renderings is still *porn*
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Hef is proof of the devil.

he sold his soul with a great contract.

what happens when he gets too old and can't fuck all those hotties anymore?

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You think that shit is coincidence?
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So you see Playboy as primarily artistic because its presented in a softer manner than say, Hustler?
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That being said, it is my opinion that a nude woman or women can be art.

Nudity does not always reflect sex.

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So you see Playboy as primarily artistic because its presented in a softer manner than say, Hustler?



I think so, but that is my opinion.

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Well..... shit. Another great memory from my teens goes away.

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