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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:18:53 PM EDT
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Well, they already vote in Maryland, so why not Cali?
Also, Back in the day, you were a citizen of the state first, then by de facto a citizen of the U.S. But they shouldn't be citizens of Cali either. Liberalism truly is a disorder |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:27:42 PM EDT
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Fuck California
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:29:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:38:40 PM EDT
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Why isn't it a Federal crime to register illegals to vote in America??
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:40:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:42:02 PM EDT
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The only barrier to voting for citizens is being a lazy fuckstick.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:43:16 PM EDT
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Here we go..
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:43:42 PM EDT
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I have asked this before and I will ask it again; if Progressive Liberalism is so great then why do our elected officials actively seek foreign voters whom they know will primarily vote Democrat? Banana republic politicians need banana republic voters.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:43:50 PM EDT
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Another reason to vote for Trump
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:49:03 PM EDT
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This should be interesting. Someone fire up the popcorn maker. I'll be back in a minute with beer.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:50:06 PM EDT
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Another reason to vote for Trump As a matter of fact, it's the primary reason. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:51:24 PM EDT
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As a matter of fact, it's the primary reason. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another reason to vote for Trump As a matter of fact, it's the primary reason. Yes, I'm starting to come around to this camp as of late.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 8:55:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Does it really matter?
With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:08:49 PM EDT
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think having a paper ballot matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:09:51 PM EDT
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You think it matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think it matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Um...I think you need to comprehend what Leatherface said..... ETA: got yah before your edit 
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:15:20 PM EDT
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think it matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Um...I think you need to comprehend what Leatherface said..... ETA: got yah before your edit The minute I saw it on the screen I knew I would be misunderstood. I just clarified my statement. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:17:28 PM EDT
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Voter fraud is the main stay of the Democratic Party.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:20:25 PM EDT
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The minute I saw it on the screen I knew I would be misunderstood. I just clarified my statement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think it matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Um...I think you need to comprehend what Leatherface said..... ETA: got yah before your edit The minute I saw it on the screen I knew I would be misunderstood. I just clarified my statement. 
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:21:09 PM EDT
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The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) (52 U.S.C. § 20501 - 52 U.S.C. § 20511) (formerly 42 U.S.C. §§ 1973gg–1973gg-10), also known as The Motor Voter Act, is a piece of federal legislation in the United States that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on May 20, 1993, and began to take effect on January 1, 1995.
Not sure if they'll give two votes to people now. It's illegal to ask for an ID card at the election site ... that's what I have a problem with. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:22:32 PM EDT
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Well, they already vote in Maryland, so why not Cali? Also, Back in the day, you were a citizen of the state first, then by de facto a citizen of the U.S. But they shouldn't be citizens of Cali either. Liberalism truly is a disorder Florida its not mandatory but when you get you license you can register to vote simultaneously. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:25:40 PM EDT
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You think having a paper ballot matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think having a paper ballot matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Yep, you're right about that. I witnessed an election being stolen on live TV back in.. 88? 90? And those were paper ballots. It happened right there on live television. Everyone acknowledges that that's what happened. And nothing was ever done about it. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:29:18 PM EDT
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Yep, you're right about that. I witnessed an election being stolen on live TV back in.. 88? 90? And those were paper ballots. It happened right there on live television. Everyone acknowledges that that's what happened. And nothing was ever done about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think having a paper ballot matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Yep, you're right about that. I witnessed an election being stolen on live TV back in.. 88? 90? And those were paper ballots. It happened right there on live television. Everyone acknowledges that that's what happened. And nothing was ever done about it. Details? Not doubting you, because I've seen similar situations, but would like to be informed |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:32:10 PM EDT
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I have asked this before and I will ask it again; if Progressive Liberalism is so great then why do our elected officials actively seek foreign voters whom they know will primarily vote Democrat? But it is great - for those who get to line their pockets and live like feudal princes. And importing more pliable (and more expendable and deportable) voters goes a long way towards keeping it that way. They're making good on the old idea that if you don't like your voters, you can just fire them and get different ones. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:59:14 PM EDT
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Details? Not doubting you, because I've seen similar situations, but would like to be informed Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think having a paper ballot matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Yep, you're right about that. I witnessed an election being stolen on live TV back in.. 88? 90? And those were paper ballots. It happened right there on live television. Everyone acknowledges that that's what happened. And nothing was ever done about it. Details? Not doubting you, because I've seen similar situations, but would like to be informed Now I think it '90 or '92. A woman named Karen Sonleitner, a former reporter on the local ABC affiliate, KVUE, had quit that job to run for Travis county commissioner. County commissioner seats wield a good bit of power in Texas. The night of the election her race was close. She is a D, of course. At about midnight, while she was being interviewed on live TV, the race was announced as being over, the R won. She suffered a complete breakdown when told the news. Fell down on the fucking floor crying hysterically. Throwing a fit like a 3 year old. It was incredibly funny to see. All on live TV, mind you. Out of nowhere appears the Travis county clerk, Dana DeBeauvoir. The woman officially responsible for certifying the votes in Travis county. She is still the County Clerk to this day, in fact. She got down on the floor with Sonleitner and began "consoling" her. "It will be okay, Karen! I'll fix it! Don't worry, it will be okay..." This was live television. And she did fix it. Once she got Sonleitner to cease her wailing and thrashing around she literally walked off into another room and came back about an hour later saying that uncounted votes from some precinct had been found that gave Sonleitner the seat. Turns out that the two of them had been the best of friends for many years. Alex Jones often cites this incident when he talks about vote fraud and stolen elections. I can tell you that he's right. I watched the whole thing live myself. It happened a few years before he had his first radio show. It was reported on in the local news, very briefly. But it's Austin. Awww, they're cool people, they meant well, it's over and done. Probably the single strangest thing I've ever seen election-wise and it was just ignored. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:02:20 PM EDT
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Voter fraud is the main stay of the Democratic Party. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:04:49 PM EDT
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Why isn't it a Federal crime to register illegals to vote in America?? Voting has always been within the realm of the States. Not until after the Civil War did the national government intervene in any significant way, and then only due to constitutional amendments. Constitutionally, all the national government can do is enforce prohibitions on the use of certain qualifications (based on race, sex, previous condition of servitude, or failure to pay a poll tax, or being any age 18 or older), other than that the States have full authority. The national government in practice does a lot more, but it does so in violation of the constitution. I don't want the national government involved with suffrage. It is rightfully a State issue. The national government already does too much, to the detriment of the country. It should be noted that throughout our history not all States or localities have required someone to be a U.S. citizen to vote or hold office. Even the national constitution does not require citizenship for holding office outside of the Presidency and members of the Senate and House of Representatives. Now, IMO, illegals should not be able to vote, nor should the bulk of legal immigrants. This is very much about locking in more votes for the Left. That's a major part of what is at the heart of the immigration issue. The other aspect is cultural (which ultimately affects politics; I do find it ironic to see some people post about how conservatives should surrender on social issues and then decry the effects of immigration). I'm not sure there will be a way to gather data to determine the impact this will have, but if there is it will be interesting to see the impact. I guarantee you any impact will favour the Left. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:06:42 PM EDT
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Man, NY has some catching-up to do. CA has out-derped them twice within a week.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:07:15 PM EDT
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On second thought, does it even matter in the presidential race?? Cali goes to the dem party anyway.
Brown should be charged with failing to uphold the sworn duties of his office. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:10:34 PM EDT
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The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) (52 U.S.C. § 20501 - 52 U.S.C. § 20511) (formerly 42 U.S.C. §§ 1973gg–1973gg-10), also known as The Motor Voter Act, is a piece of federal legislation in the United States that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on May 20, 1993, and began to take effect on January 1, 1995.
Not sure if they'll give two votes to people now. It's illegal to ask for an ID card at the election site ... that's what I have a problem with. I don't see how motor voter is in any way constitutional, and it is not for the better of the country. Universal franchises are bad enough without actively getting the masses on the rolls or forcing them onto the rolls like with this new law. I'll be working as an election inspector this November and I'll say that we do actually check IDs, but only for first-time voters. I'm also very vigilant when it comes to mail-in ballots being turned in in-person. If they don't have the right stuff on them I absolutely will reject them, even if it does tend to offend some of the poll workers (who tend to totally buy into democratist ideas). I've had people (interestingly, almost always black or Hispanic) come with reams of mail-in ballots. Only one or two will actually be acceptable. I've seen other inspectors allow them to be submitted, but I don't allow it. Most probably end up getting disqualified, but given the prevailing attitudes here, I'm not totally confident of that. Once this comes into effect, it really won't matter whether or not we ask for IDs. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:11:24 PM EDT
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On second thought, does it even matter in the presidential race?? Cali goes to the dem party anyway. Brown should be charged with failing to uphold the sworn duties of his office. Does his duty require him to veto this bill? I'm not sure it does, as unsound as it is. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:13:09 PM EDT
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I like how increased voter participation is always presented as an unqualified good.
No, it's not a good thing. Most people are fucking stupid and shouldn't vote. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:17:09 PM EDT
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As a matter of fact, it's the primary reason. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another reason to vote for Trump As a matter of fact, it's the primary reason. It's literally the only reason. The guy supports socialist healthcare, he's called for higher taxes, he supported AWBs and some fucky 72 hour wait period background checks for gun purchases. The guy is as left as they come, he's only right on immigration and telling the media to go fuck itself. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:20:08 PM EDT
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Now I think it '90 or '92. A woman named Karen Sonleitner, a former reporter on the local ABC affiliate, KVUE, had quit that job to run for Travis county commissioner. County commissioner seats wield a good bit of power in Texas. The night of the election her race was close. She is a D, of course. At about midnight, while she was being interviewed on live TV, the race was announced as being over, the R won. She suffered a complete breakdown when told the news. Fell down on the fucking floor crying hysterically. Throwing a fit like a 3 year old. It was incredibly funny to see. All on live TV, mind you. Out of nowhere appears the Travis county clerk, Dana DeBeauvoir. The woman officially responsible for certifying the votes in Travis county. She is still the County Clerk to this day, in fact. She got down on the floor with Sonleitner and began "consoling" her. "It will be okay, Karen! I'll fix it! Don't worry, it will be okay..." This was live television. And she did fix it. Once she got Sonleitner to cease her wailing and thrashing around she literally walked off into another room and came back about an hour later saying that uncounted votes from some precinct had been found that gave Sonleitner the seat. Turns out that the two of them had been the best of friends for many years. Alex Jones often cites this incident when he talks about vote fraud and stolen elections. I can tell you that he's right. I watched the whole thing live myself. It happened a few years before he had his first radio show. It was reported on in the local news, very briefly. But it's Austin. Awww, they're cool people, they meant well, it's over and done. Probably the single strangest thing I've ever seen election-wise and it was just ignored. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does it really matter? With electronic voting machines none of us knows that our votes count for whom we chose anymore. You think having a paper ballot matters? How cute. "The people who cast the votes decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything" Joesph Stalin Yep, you're right about that. I witnessed an election being stolen on live TV back in.. 88? 90? And those were paper ballots. It happened right there on live television. Everyone acknowledges that that's what happened. And nothing was ever done about it. Details? Not doubting you, because I've seen similar situations, but would like to be informed Now I think it '90 or '92. A woman named Karen Sonleitner, a former reporter on the local ABC affiliate, KVUE, had quit that job to run for Travis county commissioner. County commissioner seats wield a good bit of power in Texas. The night of the election her race was close. She is a D, of course. At about midnight, while she was being interviewed on live TV, the race was announced as being over, the R won. She suffered a complete breakdown when told the news. Fell down on the fucking floor crying hysterically. Throwing a fit like a 3 year old. It was incredibly funny to see. All on live TV, mind you. Out of nowhere appears the Travis county clerk, Dana DeBeauvoir. The woman officially responsible for certifying the votes in Travis county. She is still the County Clerk to this day, in fact. She got down on the floor with Sonleitner and began "consoling" her. "It will be okay, Karen! I'll fix it! Don't worry, it will be okay..." This was live television. And she did fix it. Once she got Sonleitner to cease her wailing and thrashing around she literally walked off into another room and came back about an hour later saying that uncounted votes from some precinct had been found that gave Sonleitner the seat. Turns out that the two of them had been the best of friends for many years. Alex Jones often cites this incident when he talks about vote fraud and stolen elections. I can tell you that he's right. I watched the whole thing live myself. It happened a few years before he had his first radio show. It was reported on in the local news, very briefly. But it's Austin. Awww, they're cool people, they meant well, it's over and done. Probably the single strangest thing I've ever seen election-wise and it was just ignored. 
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:32:24 PM EDT
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Mr. Brown gets bolder with every step doesn't he?
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:48:45 PM EDT
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Mr. Brown gets bolder with every step doesn't he? Just you wait, our next Gov wil make Brown seem like a republican, then the real fun begins. You aint seen nothing yet. 
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:54:19 PM EDT
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Fuck California |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 11:25:14 PM EDT
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CA is already in the shitter, will this change anything?
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:14:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CA is already in the shitter, will this change anything? |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:22:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why isn't it a Federal crime to register illegals to vote in America?? |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:36:17 AM EDT
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Why isn't it a Federal crime to register illegals to vote in America?? Because you change a sovereign country this way. Don't tell me I'm wearing a tin foil hat either, since it's actually happening right in front of our eyes. Not a single shot will be fired in the destruction of this country. You just change the demographics of the country, and they will vote for whoever allows them to vote. Plus we can't ask for an ID anymore to prove who you are, since that's racist. Blamo, checkmate my friend....... Oh and FBHO......and this shit stain of a governor...... |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:39:44 AM EDT
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How does this jibe with Secure ID requirements? I had to produce more documentation to renew my Drivers License than I did to get a mortgage!
I keep hoping for the "Big One" to create all that new ocean front property in AZ... I was stationed in CA in the 1980's and enjoyed it. The beginning of the Derpitude was clearly visible even then so i had no regrets when I transferred to Omaha. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:49:07 AM EDT
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The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) (52 U.S.C. § 20501 - 52 U.S.C. § 20511) (formerly 42 U.S.C. §§ 1973gg–1973gg-10), also known as The Motor Voter Act, is a piece of federal legislation in the United States that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on May 20, 1993, and began to take effect on January 1, 1995.
Not sure if they'll give two votes to people now. It's illegal to ask for an ID card at the election site ... that's what I have a problem with. we must have an exemption. we've been requiring photo id here for over a decade.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:57:17 AM EDT
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CA is already in the shitter, will this change anything? WA is following CA's lead.
3 years, 2 months, and 2 weeks, maximum and I retire and then leave. I may retire a bit earlier. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:58:02 AM EDT
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The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) (52 U.S.C. § 20501 - 52 U.S.C. § 20511) (formerly 42 U.S.C. §§ 1973gg–1973gg-10), also known as The Motor Voter Act, is a piece of federal legislation in the United States that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on May 20, 1993, and began to take effect on January 1, 1995.
Not sure if they'll give two votes to people now. It's illegal to ask for an ID card at the election site ... that's what I have a problem with. the last time i voted i had to show my driver's license. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:59:48 AM EDT
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I wonder why they even care?
Does the left in California see some resurgence in the right that will break their single party rule stranglehold? Hahahaha, I doubt it. It will piss the Dems off when socialists start running against them and all the illegals vote S instead of D. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 6:13:57 AM EDT
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Why isn't it a Federal crime to register illegals to vote in America?? It could/should be considered Sedition as it is conduct which clearly undermines the government and or the national security, or even treason since it is being committed by the highest ranking official of a State with intent to subvert national elections essentially overthrowing the government body that would be elected by sovereign citizens. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 6:41:16 AM EDT
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I'm quite sure that I've got this wrong, but is it true that you don't have to show ID when voting in the USA? Not at all? So basically, if you're registered to vote, you can in theory vote several times? Wiki wasn't very helpful about this.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 6:49:30 AM EDT
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Gov. Moonbeam is not going to like it when all those sombreros vote in their favorite non-citizen to take his job.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 6:52:10 AM EDT
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Why shouldn't legal immigrants be allowed to vote?
Assuming of course they've become full fledged citizens. I'm not talking green card gringos here. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:28:18 AM EDT
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Fuck California Reason # 5,741 |
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