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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No Happy switch   |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:07:29 PM EDT
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From bounce?
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:08:04 PM EDT
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Those deep dents are not normal In my experience. My buffer looks like a squirrel chewed along all the edges however but nothing that deep Burr on the back of bolt carrier |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:08:05 PM EDT
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If you slowly close the upper to the lower can you see the carrier push on the buffer, moving it into the tube? Because you should.
Or if you have both pins out and you put the upper on the lower you should be able to feel the buffer spring try to push the upper forward. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you slowly close the upper to the lower can you see the carrier push on the buffer, moving it into the tube? Because you should. Or if you have both pins out and you put the upper on the lower you should be able to feel the buffer spring try to push the upper forward. yes, this happens. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:19:21 PM EDT
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It's from the bolt carrier not being 100% forward when closing it a couple times. No biggie.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:20:13 PM EDT
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yes, this happens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you slowly close the upper to the lower can you see the carrier push on the buffer, moving it into the tube? Because you should. Or if you have both pins out and you put the upper on the lower you should be able to feel the buffer spring try to push the upper forward. yes, this happens. Well something isn't right. It's not normal. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:21:31 PM EDT
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Not Normal in my experience
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:22:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well something isn't right. It's not normal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you slowly close the upper to the lower can you see the carrier push on the buffer, moving it into the tube? Because you should. Or if you have both pins out and you put the upper on the lower you should be able to feel the buffer spring try to push the upper forward. yes, this happens. Well something isn't right. It's not normal. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:23:04 PM EDT
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How about this? Normal?
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:27:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:27:42 PM EDT
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It's from the bolt carrier not being 100% forward when closing it a couple times. No biggie. Is that really a thing? It looks like the buffer is making contact with the pin. I have an AR right here and I tried positioning the carrier as you described and slowly seeing the interference. It's not easy getting the carrier just right even when trying, then it would have to be slammed and forced shut. Repeatedly. OP did you slam and force the upper and lower together? |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:31:39 PM EDT
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Lol ok. Sorry if I offended you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you slowly close the upper to the lower can you see the carrier push on the buffer, moving it into the tube? Because you should. Or if you have both pins out and you put the upper on the lower you should be able to feel the buffer spring try to push the upper forward. yes, this happens. Well something isn't right. It's not normal. How would you have offended me? I'm just trying to think of what it could be. The fit makes it sound like it is ok. But the damage shows otherwise. So clearly something isn't right with it. I just don't know what. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How would you have offended me? I'm just trying to think of what it could be. The fit makes it sound like it is ok. But the damage shows otherwise. So clearly something isn't right with it. I just don't know what. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:38:37 PM EDT
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Bolt carrier is too short or bcg is not depressing the the buffer off the buffer retainer when gun is closed. That would mean when the buffer comes forward from the recoil it is hitting the buffer retainer causing those marks instead of coming to rest on the rear of the bolt carrier.
If it is an out of spec bolt carrier, replace it. If it is from The retainer pin hitting the buffer, get a new lower. The retainer pin channel is drilled to far to the rear. Edit to add. Pin the front pin and slowly close the rifle in the rear. Watch the bcg. If the bcg pushes the buffer off the buffer retaining pin as you close it, then it is not an out of spec lower. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like a dick, bruh |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:40:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Graphic safety violator images! Trigger warning! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://i.imgur.com/Oug9pys.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/8hKyk2c.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/t90mU0E.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/0J8pNRL.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/suhwmmO.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/IVDUl2Q.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/PLeBknT.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/MjBiNZC.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/Kvwo190.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/ponSh54.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/7uFEj9j.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/HdJ9ayA.jpg?1 Graphic safety violator images! Trigger warning!  |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:46:29 PM EDT
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Looks like a dick, bruh Quote HistoryWith a nice fat mushroom head. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:50:02 PM EDT
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I'm gonna guess it ingested a foreign object that bounced around a couple of times.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:12:00 PM EDT
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If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use.. 
That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:19:32 PM EDT
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http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use..
That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. Happy switch?
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:26:44 PM EDT
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Happy switch? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use..
That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. Happy switch? Not with that carrier. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:34:03 PM EDT
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Ok. Are you sure you have a carbine recoil spring?
Not sarcasm. I have never seen this in over 30 years. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not with that carrier. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use.. That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. Happy switch? Not with that carrier. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:37:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use.. That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:38:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok. Are you sure you have a carbine recoil spring? Not sarcasm. I have never seen this in over 30 years. First thing I thought of, change out the buffer spring and run a H2 buffer
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Posted: 10/12/2015 10:41:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First thing I thought of, change out the buffer spring and run a H2 buffer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok. Are you sure you have a carbine recoil spring? Not sarcasm. I have never seen this in over 30 years. First thing I thought of, change out the buffer spring and run a H2 buffer  |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 11:15:55 PM EDT
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Cue the "back in my day" music. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use..
That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. You should here my "Grumpy old Man" Voice. Seriously, that is not Full auto.. that is just normal use...Moving metal parts are going to wear... Thats how this works... Unless you slather every last piece of you gun in oil, shit is going to wear... you should see the gas key on my Bolt carrier, you would have a seizure... |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 11:37:54 PM EDT
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What calibers are the uppers you have used? All 5.56? |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:18:58 AM EDT
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All 5.56
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:23:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should here my "Grumpy old Man" Voice. Seriously, that is not Full auto.. that is just normal use...Moving metal parts are going to wear... Thats how this works... Unless you slather every last piece of you gun in oil, shit is going to wear... you should see the gas key on my Bolt carrier, you would have a seizure... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use.. That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. You should here my "Grumpy old Man" Voice. Seriously, that is not Full auto.. that is just normal use...Moving metal parts are going to wear... Thats how this works... Unless you slather every last piece of you gun in oil, shit is going to wear... you should see the gas key on my Bolt carrier, you would have a seizure... I brought this up because it didnt look normal to me. I am a proponent of regularly scheduled maintenance, whether that be at 20 rounds or 2000. Having an issue with your gear and not diagnosing it or fixing it is irresponsible and stupid. Now Im sure you can understand that. ETA: I never said it was full auto fire. I stated that the carrier was full auto profile and that it would work fine with a full auto lower. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:51:10 AM EDT
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ETA: I never said it was full auto fire. I stated that the carrier was full auto profile and that it would work fine with a full auto lower. The "not with that carrier" comment looked like the poster was commenting on the 12k round carrier & buffer, not with yours. The carrier in that image is one of the half circle carriers, produced in a time when Colt was apparently assuming everyone was illegally converting their ARs to full auto. Sear blocks and oversized FCG pins in the lower were part of that design philosophy, and IIRC also was the reasoning behind the larger front screw instead of a takedown pin on the SP1. That's my spitball understanding of the design differences, though, so there may be inaccuracies. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:29:44 AM EDT
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From a Mod in tech:
Quoted: http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/Dano523/bufferfacemarkedup.gif?t=1241927061 # 1 is buffer retainer tagging the buffer from the buffer pin channel being too far back in the lower receiver. With over 200 rounds on the buffer, if the buffer was not being pushed back way from the buffer retaining pin when the upper is locked down by the back of the carrier, the denting would be around 200 dents instead. So again, what I am seeing is just the buffer retainer pin coming up and mar'g the buffer edge when the buffer is remove and reinstalled, or the buffer pushed back and allowed to spring forward hard with the upper open to really tag the hell out of the buffer retaining pin instead. FYI, #2 is ridges around the back of the carrier. #3 is a bur on the back of the carrier at the bottom U slot that is scrapping down the face of the tube when the upper it being locked home. And yes, the buffer was produced out the wrong aluminum that was too soft to begin with, and the reason that is all peen to hell very easily to begin with. Quick guide to aluminum, http://www.onlinemetals.com/productguides/aluminumguide.cfm |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:31:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use.. That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. I'm with you. Parts do actually wear thru use. No need to obsess about wear on a $20 part.  |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:31:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm with you. Parts do actually wear thru use. No need to obsess about wear on a $20 part. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/25/cd/9d/25cd9df1629eb14e259549b4a79b1edd.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_1212.jpg</a>" /> If you don't have OCD... and actually shoot your rifle more then 100 rds a year, they do actually wear thru use.. That buffer has 12K thru it, and its was build in 1993. It still works and is in the rifle... That is normal wear... Funny, before the internet, we just went out and shot our guns and never thought to look at every square inch of it to see if "that is normal.. I'm with you. Parts do actually wear thru use. No need to obsess about wear on a $20 part. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/25/cd/9d/25cd9df1629eb14e259549b4a79b1edd.jpg |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:09:24 PM EDT
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Mine hasn't couple of those as well. I'm assuming it's from when I left the bolt locked back and removed the upper and the buffer slammed into the pin. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Posted: 10/13/2015 9:49:45 PM EDT
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OMG look at this gas key...
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Look at that hammer...  " />
I can't believe this thing still works...
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:29:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OMG look at this gas key... http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_2580_zps9ylposmq.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_2587%20-%20Copy_zpscvicsqd1.jpg</a>" /> Look at that hammer... http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_2581_zpsrnzpdet8.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/harv24/IMG_2582%20-%20Copy_zpscsgoxrqn.jpg</a>" /> I can't believe this thing still works... |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 11:38:44 AM EDT
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From a Mod in tech: Quoted:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/Dano523/bufferfacemarkedup.gif?t=1241927061 # 1 is buffer retainer tagging the buffer from the buffer pin channel being too far back in the lower receiver. With over 200 rounds on the buffer, if the buffer was not being pushed back way from the buffer retaining pin when the upper is locked down by the back of the carrier, the denting would be around 200 dents instead. So again, what I am seeing is just the buffer retainer pin coming up and mar'g the buffer edge when the buffer is remove and reinstalled, or the buffer pushed back and allowed to spring forward hard with the upper open to really tag the hell out of the buffer retaining pin instead. FYI, #2 is ridges around the back of the carrier. #3 is a bur on the back of the carrier at the bottom U slot that is scrapping down the face of the tube when the upper it being locked home. And yes, the buffer was produced out the wrong aluminum that was too soft to begin with, and the reason that is all peen to hell very easily to begin with. Quick guide to aluminum, http://www.onlinemetals.com/productguides/aluminumguide.cfm I guess you could remove and reinstall the buffer and see if you get another mark. To me they look kind of deep for a scratch. |
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