I'm turning 21 and a few weeks. I want to get a good carry gun either the Glock 17 gen 4 or the Glock 19 gen 4.
With the 19 it seems to be a great size for carry, my hand doesn't agree with the finger grooves at all. (I've got meaty paws from powerlifting.) I've borrowed my friend's glock 19 for a couple of classes and I've shot it a whole bunch.
The 17 is slightly better ergos but I would like to cut the grip down to be a 19 length so that it doesn't print too much.
I plan to carry appendix.

Either way I'm going to have to use a Dremel on the grip. But with a 17 I do have a longer slide.

What do y'all think? Cut the grip or cut the grooves?

(In before the "glocks suck" responses)

17 would be cool with a chopped grip

Real answer is to get a 1911 though

Why not just remove the finger grooves on a 19?

g17 chopped

exactly my question.
Cut the grip or cut the grooves?

I chopped my 22 to make a 23L, I will be buying a 17 to cut even though I have a 19.

Get a 19 and sand the grooves off

Appendix carry would favor the 19.  For me, anyway.

Get a 19 and remove the finger grips/ Stipple job

ETA: I have a Gen 2 G19 and was thinking the exact same thing. Chopped 17 or Gen 3/4 G19 w/o Finger groves.

Ah missed the part were there was an option.  Thought you were set on cutting the 17 and asking for opinions.

Chopped 17's are fairly common tho its a mystery to me just why.  

I'd say a second gen 19 is what you seek.

That or sand the grooves off of a 19. I go between a shield and a g23, and I have pretty meaty hands. The grooves don't but me, but I could see where they would someone else.

Or just go shoot some other guns and see if something suits you better without having to screw with it.....

Check out the HK VP9. Much better trigger, similar price to Glock, and many more grip size options via backstrap/sidepanel changes.

Why don't you just get you an XD 9mm 4"?

If you like the size of the 19 just remove the finger grooves.

I bought a 17.  The hump on the 19 sickitates me.

Get a gen 4 19 and sand the grooves off or get a gen 2 19 if you don't want or care about the option of mounting a light.

Because XD.

Just wait for the Gen 5 with changeable front straps

 
I know right?

Also, all my gainz from natty make appendix carry more difficult

Glad you agree

I carry a 17 every day.  Print schmrint.....



 

I never really saw any gains when I drank flavored water.

SweatyMuddyBloody does G17 to G19 conversions, and his work is awesome.

Buy two of these from Home Depot. Also make sure you have a belt sander, dremel kit, small round file, thick flat file for touch up work.

Strip your G17 frame down completely. Stick a round file inside the void behind the mag and scuff it up, this will allow the epoxy to better stick to the inside. Plug the top of the frame with playdoh (following these directions), then inject the epoxy into the void, filling it completely, going out of your way to avoid air bubbles. Allow it to dry and cure fully (a kitchen oven at low heat will help this but make sure its dry before continuing).

After the void is filled and epoxy is solid, mark the magazine height of a Glock 19 with some tape. Err on the side of caution, go long, don't go too short, you can always remove more material. Take a dremel and cut off the bottom of the grip and grind it down with the dremel until the Glock 19 magazine fits perfectly.

Next mark with tape everything you DON'T want to remove, if you want to change the grip angle, remove the hump, and the finger grooves. Be very careful marking, to make sure you don't remove too much and end up cutting through or weakening the magazine well.

Get yourself a belt sander, either put the frame in a vice, or put the belt sander in the vice, and grind off all excess material, slow and steady with your work, checking it often, especially for symmetry. You can remove the finger grooves, remove the hump. With the dremel you add a a bobtail (for concealment) and mag cut out for fingers to yank the mag out. While you're at it, you can also dremel down the trigger guard a little bit for a hump for a high thumbs forward grip, for your support hand index finger (some people like this), but don't go nutty on the trigger guard.

Whether you want to stipple it after or not is up to you. Its going to be pretty ugly looking, cut up plastic isn't pretty. If you do stipple, go small, its less grippy than large holes, but you can always widen them. I started small, then went big, like this, it was so grippy my hands would literally bleed after shooting 100 rounds or more.

Another possibility is to do a at-home marinetex texturing job, like this (which is what I ended up doing to unfuck my terrible stipple job).

Or just spray the grip (tape everything else)with this, truck bed liner, to cover up any visible light colored epoxy and to add a little bit of grip to it, after you smooth everything out with file and sand paper. I use it on AR15 grips, it works very well, gives a sandy pebble type feel. And its cheap.

Depending on how you do it, it'll end up something like this and will take a total of about 3 hours of work, not counting drying time. I cut down my Glock 34 to take Glock 19 mags, and its a much easier carrier gun, a whole lot easier to conceal, with only two rounds less for the magazine.

But is that .5" longer sight radius really worth the work? You can just get a Glock 19 and shoot the shit out of it, you won't even notice the finger grooves or hump after 500 rounds. Spent the extra money, time, and energy getting quality training, buying ammo, and buying and installing properly some new tritium sights.

I have a 17 & 19, I cant say which is my favorite, they both have their own qualities. In arfcom fashion, get both.

CZ P-07

Nothing wrong with an XD.

Get two G19's.
Sand finger grooves off of one.
Cut the other one to G26 grip size.
Thank me later.

I used a soldering iron to remove the finger grooves and stipple my G19. I'm happy with it.

I'd buy a gun I didn't have to do a Bubba-fuck hack job on to make it useful.

My Glock is "Glock 19" size and has none of these "finger grooves" you speak of.



Yes, I AM a wizard.

Get a gen 2 g19 or sand the grooves off of a g19.

g17 appendix carry is not fun I'd assume. I appendix carried a g34 for a week and that sucked ass.

Your gun...do what you want with it....I do not agree with what is in bold.  Just get a fucking 19 and don't carry it appendix.

G19 with a timberwolf frame.

Sand down the finger grooves and undercut the trigger guard on the g19

You people are weird.

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Naw mate



Compact handle of a 23 with the extended site radius of a 22.

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I'm 41. I've been carrying a pistol for 20 years. I've carried hand guns in every major caliber except .40 but I did carry a 10mm which is the same thing with more power.

no and no.

I've carried larger and heavier guns than either the g17 and the g19 and I've carried smaller and lighter guns than either of them. buy a smaller gun. g43, g26, or a shield. You'll wind up doing eventually it might be years down the road, but you'll do it. skip all mistakes and go directly to subcompact.

the other no. you are 21 you do not have the training or experience to appendix carry. do alot of shooting. shoot uspsa shoot idpa. get good and more importantly get safe, take a bunch of classes and in a few years when you have more experience and training then you can appendix carry. or you'll find you like strong side hip carry better. who knows but don't do this right out of the gates.

Try a G26 too.

Just get any Glock. It will already be Perfect.

I have always liked the g17's with chopped grips.

With that said, if Iwas going to do it, I would send it to Cold Bore Customs and have it done right.



ETA: Though I am not really a fan of the texture they used for the picture to showcase their grip chop.  If it was me, I would go for something like this


or this

Cut the groves on a 19.

Chopping a 17 is bubba style.

Just buy a g19 frame and put a 17 slide on it. Lonewolf dist is the answer you seek.

This here very thread is why God wanted us to have the H&K VP9.

Dremel the grooves, stipple it, and put a GripForce adapter on it. It's what I did for mine. And it's awesome.

And I disagree on the subcompact. I've had Glock subcompacts and I've had a Shield
collecting dust for a few years now. Get a Glock 19. With the right holster it will conceal more than adequately. It's large enough that it is easy to shoot well, and one that you would be likely to use in training. It makes things nicer when your training/practice gun is the same as your carry gun.