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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:51:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:52:47 PM EDT
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:54:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:56:28 PM EDT
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I've seen some of this largest "standing" army. Fat, diabetic, hoveround using chain smokers who get out of breath walking from the walmart handicap parking to the front door 50 ft away.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:56:47 PM EDT
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. Yeah, they also lack artillery and airpower. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:57:30 PM EDT
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It's not about hunters.
It's about chemists, engineers, inventors, and hard working free individuals that would fucking destroy an invading army and steal their shit and then use it against them. The guerilla resistance in the US would dwarf a'stan, Iraq, Ukraine, etc |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:58:22 PM EDT
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Yeah, they also lack artillery and airpower. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. Yeah, they also lack artillery and airpower. And logistics. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:58:56 PM EDT
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I've seen some of this largest "standing" army. Fat, diabetic, hoveround using chain smokers who get out of breath walking from the walmart handicap parking to the front door 50 ft away. 
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:59:40 PM EDT
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Our country was founded with farmers who hunted. They fought the most powerful military in the world at the time. The human spirit goes along way.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:59:47 PM EDT
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"Only Hunters Matter."
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:00:32 PM EDT
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Sure,
But how many keeps a good number of ammunition in their house? How many will actually be willing to risk their own lives? Do they have air support? Nope, huh well we will need the numbers on our side then |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:00:33 PM EDT
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If only every one of them was an NRA member.
The NRA could rule the world. 
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:00:59 PM EDT
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Our country was founded with farmers who hunted. They fought the most powerful military in the world at the time. The human spirit goes along way. Yea, Until it goes up against air support, then its a bad deal |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:01:08 PM EDT
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And logistics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. Yeah, they also lack artillery and airpower. And logistics. But they have a box of ammo and a day off to go to the range and check their zero. 
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:01:08 PM EDT
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The armed population meme kinda died with Iraq and Afghanistan. The militias could impose logistical costs through mines (not guns, gunslingers got slaughtered). But whenever the real military wanted something, the militias couldn't do a damn thing to stop them.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:05:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. Same about as they had on Red Dawn and back during the Revolution. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:08:06 PM EDT
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Hunters typically are terrible at shooting.
Shooters are typically good at hunting. Go figure right? |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:08:15 PM EDT
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The armed population meme kinda died with Iraq and Afghanistan. The militias could impose logistical costs through mines (not guns, gunslingers got slaughtered). But whenever the real military wanted something, the militias couldn't do a damn thing to stop them. Most powerful, well armed, well trained military in the world vs. cave dwellers with IEDs. Ya, the militia will suffer. Compare that to the best minds in the world taught by the best schools, experience in Vietnam, a'stan, and Iraq, and modern arms and equipment against some second rate Chinese fucks Roll a half dozen anti air guns and obtain some air support of their own. I'm optimistic but this meme about "hunters" is off base |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:08:47 PM EDT
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That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:09:01 PM EDT
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The circles on the states must represent hunter/population ratio
The North/Eastern states should be more Republican and they were just a few years ago. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our country was founded with farmers who hunted. They fought the most powerful military in the world at the time. The human spirit goes along way. It wasn't until the revolutionaries adopted training, received outside support, and (guess what) militarized that we started doing good.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:10:06 PM EDT
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'army' implies some sort of unity.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:12:09 PM EDT
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90 percent wouldnt fight.At all.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:13:09 PM EDT
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. This your average hunter in my neck of the woods can't shoot worth a damn. Sure they can hit a deer at 30 yards when it s standing still. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:13:15 PM EDT
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I could give a shit about the "standing army" back and forth crap.
I'd rather see all those people align into one political force that universally got behind the 2A. Then we would really have something. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:14:11 PM EDT
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They got their shit pushed in too. It wasn't until the revolutionaries adopted training, received outside support, and (guess what) militarized that we started doing good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our country was founded with farmers who hunted. They fought the most powerful military in the world at the time. The human spirit goes along way. It wasn't until the revolutionaries adopted training, received outside support, and (guess what) militarized that we started doing good. At least I wasn't the only one that saw the documentary The Patriot. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:16:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen some of this largest "standing" army. Fat, diabetic, hoveround using chain smokers who get out of breath walking from the walmart handicap parking to the front door 50 ft away.       |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:16:13 PM EDT
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They got their shit pushed in too. It wasn't until the revolutionaries adopted training, received outside support, and (guess what) militarized that we started doing good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our country was founded with farmers who hunted. They fought the most powerful military in the world at the time. The human spirit goes along way. It wasn't until the revolutionaries adopted training, received outside support, and (guess what) militarized that we started doing good. Ehhh slight correction to your correction. When the Americans tried fighting the British as equals was when they got their shit pushed in. Small skirmishes were often successful, even from the beginning. Yay! |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:18:18 PM EDT
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Most powerful, well armed, well trained military in the world vs. cave dwellers with IEDs. Ya, the militia will suffer. Compare that to the best minds in the world taught by the best schools, experience in Vietnam, a'stan, and Iraq, and modern arms and equipment against some second rate Chinese fucks Roll a half dozen anti air guns and obtain some air support of their own. I'm optimistic but this meme about "hunters" is off base Think China will be invading the native territory of a state with thousands of nuclear weapons any time soon? Nuclear powers need militia like conventional powers need muskets. For conventional powers trying to discourage conventional invasions, what have militia done? Even against casualty-intolerant states like the US that often bend over backwards for the locals, they couldn't do shit to stop decade-long occupations. The real military killed whoever it wanted and captured whoever it wanted and the militia either stood aside and hid or got slaughtered. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:18:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, they also lack artillery and airpower. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. Yeah, they also lack artillery and airpower. So did the Iraqis and the Taliban. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:22:10 PM EDT
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Yea, Until it goes up against air support, then its a bad deal Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our country was founded with farmers who hunted. They fought the most powerful military in the world at the time. The human spirit goes along way. Yea, Until it goes up against air support, then its a bad deal Wow it seems that the Taliban, Isis, the norks/chicoms, and Ho Chi Minh all seemed to beat the US without air superiority and inferior logistics. So weird. Weird. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:23:16 PM EDT
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I've seen some of this largest "standing" army. Fat, diabetic, hoveround using chain smokers who get out of breath walking from the walmart handicap parking to the front door 50 ft away.
This is my buddy lol Photo was taken in the Tangi Valley in 2009. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:25:31 PM EDT
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I know it would be this lame shit.
I guess if you could set out some MREs at a feeder and wait for the invading ChiComs to come by and sit down to eat 50 yards from your blind and you hadn't had too many beers yet that day, you might have a point. 
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:27:23 PM EDT
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. Yeah, they also lack artillery and airpower. And logistics. why would we be lacking any of this things? if a war came to our shores, we would have all of that. if the war was internal, American vs American, we would still have both due to some percentage being on our side. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:28:57 PM EDT
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We would be one hell of a guerrilla force backing up our standing army (unless the premise is they turned against us which I don't see happening). You can't deny we would deal some punishment. Hell, even if it was only 10% that would fight (I actually think it would be more like 30%) that is still one hell of a number.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:29:05 PM EDT
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I've seen some of this largest "standing" army. Fat, diabetic, hoveround using chain smokers who get out of breath walking from the walmart handicap parking to the front door 50 ft away. You're not hanging with the average elk or mule deer hunter. You can't climb that far on ahoveround |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:29:12 PM EDT
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so tell me about all the military training the US hunters have had. Well, generally, we can shoot better. Those of us who hunted were the top 10%, in basic, and...many of us still shot better than others, a couple years later; at least in that respect. <<shrug>> |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:29:27 PM EDT
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Omg thats not what i expected!!!
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:30:14 PM EDT
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But how many of those would have the balls to stand up against a foreign military?
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:31:13 PM EDT
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90 percent wouldnt fight.At all. Well, that leaves 1.2 million, and some change. What now? |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:32:09 PM EDT
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I know it would be this lame shit. I guess if you could set out some MREs at a feeder and wait for the invading ChiComs to come by and sit down to eat 50 yards from your blind and you hadn't had too many beers yet that day, you might have a point.
Worth a try... |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:32:16 PM EDT
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That isn't what the term standing army means, that isn't what it means at all.
Learn to English, people. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:32:37 PM EDT
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Omg thats not what i expected!!! Best post yet.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:32:54 PM EDT
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But how many of those would have the balls to stand up against a foreign military? That would be hard to pin down, I think. More than 30%, less than 80%; is what I would go with. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:36:23 PM EDT
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It's not about hunters. It's about chemists, engineers, inventors, and hard working free individuals that would fucking destroy an invading army and steal their shit and then use it against them. The guerilla resistance in the US would dwarf a'stan, Iraq, Ukraine, etc This. An American insurgency would be a debilitating strain against any army in the world, even our own. Short of carpet bombing/nuking the entire population it would be impossible to contain an insurgency composed of even 1% of Americans. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:36:33 PM EDT
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The weapons which would be employed in a war on American soil haven't been invented yet.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:36:45 PM EDT
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Hate on the hunter ! Sad day
Nothing like gun owners tearing into gun owners can't we all just get along. 
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:37:08 PM EDT
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Both sides in this argument seem to think this will happen in a vacuum.
If it was outside invaders they would have a very very hard time. They would still have to deal with the US Army and have their supply lines attacked by armed insurgents. In Iraq we had wiped out the regular army and were moping up insurgents. If it was internal we would be in a civil war. Then both the US Army and the 'hunters' would be split along ideological lines. In the end whichever side has the best logistics<support<numbers<and finally tactics would win. It will never be hunters vs. regular military alone. If it was hunters would lose. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:37:54 PM EDT
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Sorry to go against the flow but most hunters I know are ex-military. They may not go to the range and blast 200 rounds a weedend thru their ARs but a 20 round box of 30-06 will put 20 deer in the freezer.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:40:22 PM EDT
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** = Active Frontline Personnel
Guess all of the support personnel are irrelevant and the hunters don't need doctors, equipment, logistics, transportation, etc. A hunter isn't part of an Army. He's an individual who harvests food. Personnel of nothing but his/her own life. |
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