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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:27:55 PM EDT
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What a dick
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:29:21 PM EDT
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What a dick FPNI, dude shouldn't have been flying it that close to that guys house |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:30:24 PM EDT
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FPNI, dude shouldn't have been flying it that close to that guys house Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a dick FPNI, dude shouldn't have been flying it that close to that guys house LoL no the shooter is a dick. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:35:51 PM EDT
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Meh.
My old mans house abuts a ~20 acre field where people fly some different RC planes and copters. Some of the gas planes move at a good clip (and are loud as fuck) and when they fly over his property it is very annoying. The dogs go ballistic and hate the things, and sometimes the people are doing flips or maneuvers right over the house/deck/yard and if they lost control could easily kill or injure someone. I don't hate them, because I want to fly them, too. But id be lying if I said I never daydream about suppressing a shotgun and taking some down. 
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:37:46 PM EDT
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LoL no the shooter is a dick. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a dick FPNI, dude shouldn't have been flying it that close to that guys house LoL no the shooter is a dick. Maybe not so much... when the story first broke I believe the drone was hovering over the shooters property near his sunbathing daughter. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:39:35 PM EDT
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Maybe not so much... when the story first broke I believe the drone was hovering over the shooters property near his sunbathing daughter. Different story. And in that story, IRRC, the flight logs and video showed it wasn't even close. That's why THAT guy got in trouble. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:46:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe not so much... when the story first broke I believe the drone was hovering over the shooters property near his sunbathing daughter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What a dick FPNI, dude shouldn't have been flying it that close to that guys house LoL no the shooter is a dick. Maybe not so much... when the story first broke I believe the drone was hovering over the shooters property near his sunbathing daughter. That was in Ky. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:47:10 PM EDT
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening.
I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:57:29 PM EDT
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. The firefighter thread was the best one I have seen in along time. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:59:55 PM EDT
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. Start a thread about "drone" operators crashing into biycyclists. Pop bag of popcorn Enjoy the rest of the evening. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:07:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Start a thread about "drone" operators crashing into biycyclists. Pop bag of popcorn Enjoy the rest of the evening. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. Start a thread about "drone" operators crashing into biycyclists. Pop bag of popcorn Enjoy the rest of the evening. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:07:32 PM EDT
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:08:33 PM EDT
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My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a drone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a drone. That's bound to turn out well for you. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:08:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". Are you in the same rush to shoot down a manned helicopter with a photographer in it? |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:10:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:12:03 PM EDT
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That's bound to turn out well for you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a drone. That's bound to turn out well for you. They are trying to enact a law here, no drones over pp and a 350 min. ceiling is the owners property. Roy |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:12:35 PM EDT
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That's bound to turn out well for you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a drone. That's bound to turn out well for you. How do these people find out who shoots their drone? Why not spray it with a pressure washer? |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone".  |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:20:23 PM EDT
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My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". 
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:20:27 PM EDT
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Just get your own drone and have a dogfight.
If you are good, problem solved. Your house, your airspace. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:20:27 PM EDT
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My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a "drone". Eric Draven: I see you have made your decision, now let's see you enforce it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:21:37 PM EDT
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Honestly?
I'd feel like a complete tool flying a drone that was recording over someone else's property. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:28:08 PM EDT
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fair advance warning . try flying a drone over my place .. and see what happens
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:29:21 PM EDT
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They are trying to enact a law here, no drones over pp and a 350 min. ceiling is the owners property. Roy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a drone. That's bound to turn out well for you. They are trying to enact a law here, no drones over pp and a 350 min. ceiling is the owners property. Roy There's a thread on that. CA is going to find out that the FAA regulates aircraft. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:30:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly? I'd feel like a complete tool flying a drone that was recording over someone else's property. Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly? I'd feel like a complete tool flying a drone that was recording over someone else's property. Similarly, some of the aircraft that are able to fly autonomously will pause when they hit a waypoint, so if the aircraft is flying along a street or sidewalk it might happen to pause above someone, which the typical paranoid Arfcommer would misconstrue as "one o them dadgum tech-no-logic drone thingeroos" spying on him. Not to mention that from a distance, every camera at a certain angle looks like it's pointing at you, which further reinforces the idea that someone is spying on you... probably a combination of paranoia and arrogance thinking you're interesting enough for that. Also could easily be a kid with a Parrot he got for Christmas and either doesn't know that trying to spy on other people is frowned upon, or is just having fun flying around the area. And then some knucklehead fires a shotgun into the air to shoot him down in the middle of a crowded neighborhood  Quoted: fair advance warning . try flying a drone over my place .. and see what happens |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:30:39 PM EDT
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How do these people find out who shoots their drone? Why not spray it with a pressure washer? I'm going out on a limb and guessing that they aren't getting shot down from 1000 yards by a precision rifle shot. So maybe start with who is in range of the shotgun pellets that drop it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:33:43 PM EDT
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fair advance warning . try flying a drone over my place .. and see what happens 
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:36:15 PM EDT
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Honestly? I'd feel like a complete tool flying a drone that was recording over someone else's property. The vast majority of folks who own these things feel the same way. That's why you see a lot of videos online of people flying over water. It's more dangerous to the copter, but it's not bothering anyone. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:40:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: fair advance warning . try flying a drone over my place .. and see what happens Post pic of your place. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:41:25 PM EDT
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The guy should get a fine not 10 years in jail.
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:44:22 PM EDT
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There's a thread on that. CA is going to find out that the FAA regulates aircraft. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a drone. That's bound to turn out well for you. They are trying to enact a law here, no drones over pp and a 350 min. ceiling is the owners property. Roy There's a thread on that. CA is going to find out that the FAA regulates aircraft. Maybe, but CA can very much redefine their state parameters for trespass and what constitutes disorderly conduct. Phrase it so that it's any visual aid suspended less than 350ft above a privately owned or occupied property and make it not an air related charge but a trespass, and guess who can't do shit? The FAA. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:44:30 PM EDT
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Honestly it'd probably be worth getting one just to enrage rednecks by hovering above their house with it.
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:45:33 PM EDT
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The guy should get a fine not 10 years in jail. I agree. Fined heavily. NJ went retard on that. Most-likely the gun-control lobby had a hand in whatever law governs what he did. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:47:19 PM EDT
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Most people aren't going to be doing that. Some of us live in tight neighborhoods where we don't have many options for test flying... to the casual observer it could easily look like I'm hovering over someone else's yard and filming when I'm really in a corner of my yard and the camera's not even on. Similarly, some of the aircraft that are able to fly autonomously will pause when they hit a waypoint, so if the aircraft is flying along a street or sidewalk it might happen to pause above someone, which the typical paranoid Arfcommer would misconstrue as "one o them dadgum tech-no-logic drone thingeroos" spying on him. Not to mention that from a distance, every camera at a certain angle looks like it's pointing at you, which further reinforces the idea that someone is spying on you... probably a combination of paranoia and arrogance thinking you're interesting enough for that. Also could easily be a kid with a Parrot he got for Christmas and either doesn't know that trying to spy on other people is frowned upon, or is just having fun flying around the area. And then some knucklehead fires a shotgun into the air to shoot him down in the middle of a crowded neighborhood
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Honestly? I'd feel like a complete tool flying a drone that was recording over someone else's property. Similarly, some of the aircraft that are able to fly autonomously will pause when they hit a waypoint, so if the aircraft is flying along a street or sidewalk it might happen to pause above someone, which the typical paranoid Arfcommer would misconstrue as "one o them dadgum tech-no-logic drone thingeroos" spying on him. Not to mention that from a distance, every camera at a certain angle looks like it's pointing at you, which further reinforces the idea that someone is spying on you... probably a combination of paranoia and arrogance thinking you're interesting enough for that. Also could easily be a kid with a Parrot he got for Christmas and either doesn't know that trying to spy on other people is frowned upon, or is just having fun flying around the area. And then some knucklehead fires a shotgun into the air to shoot him down in the middle of a crowded neighborhood
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fair advance warning . try flying a drone over my place .. and see what happens Sounds like we need some regulation since the hobby won't regulate itself. Like, if it's a neighborhood where I'm legally enjoined from discharging a weapon - it's also clearly unsafe to be flying a drone around. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. My old mans house abuts a ~20 acre field where people fly some different RC planes and copters. Some of the gas planes move at a good clip (and are loud as fuck) and when they fly over his property it is very annoying. The dogs go ballistic and hate the things, and sometimes the people are doing flips or maneuvers right over the house/deck/yard and if they lost control could easily kill or injure someone. I don't hate them, because I want to fly them, too. But id be lying if I said I never daydream about suppressing a shotgun and taking some down. about every six months one crashes into his trees. Fuck them if they can't see it.  |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:52:31 PM EDT
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fair advance warning . try flying a drone over my place .. and see what happens 
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:59:10 PM EDT
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Yeah,
Lets put the guy in prison for it! Only in New Jersey would such a thing happen. Right or wrong Prison? Seriously? They should change the name from garden state to "Draconian State" |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 11:03:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe, but CA can very much redefine their state parameters for trespass and what constitutes disorderly conduct. Phrase it so that it's any visual aid suspended less than 350ft above a privately owned or occupied property and make it not an air related charge but a trespass, and guess who can't do shit? The FAA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My property and the airspace above it is a UAV no fly zone. Don't believe me? Fly over it with a drone. That's bound to turn out well for you. They are trying to enact a law here, no drones over pp and a 350 min. ceiling is the owners property. Roy There's a thread on that. CA is going to find out that the FAA regulates aircraft. Maybe, but CA can very much redefine their state parameters for trespass and what constitutes disorderly conduct. Phrase it so that it's any visual aid suspended less than 350ft above a privately owned or occupied property and make it not an air related charge but a trespass, and guess who can't do shit? The FAA. Well - they aren't all visual aids. I don't know how someone on the ground would positively discriminate between the two types. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 11:03:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like we need some regulation since the hobby won't regulate itself. Like, if it's a neighborhood where I'm legally enjoined from discharging a weapon - it's also clearly unsafe to be flying a drone around. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Honestly? I'd feel like a complete tool flying a drone that was recording over someone else's property. Similarly, some of the aircraft that are able to fly autonomously will pause when they hit a waypoint, so if the aircraft is flying along a street or sidewalk it might happen to pause above someone, which the typical paranoid Arfcommer would misconstrue as "one o them dadgum tech-no-logic drone thingeroos" spying on him. Not to mention that from a distance, every camera at a certain angle looks like it's pointing at you, which further reinforces the idea that someone is spying on you... probably a combination of paranoia and arrogance thinking you're interesting enough for that. Also could easily be a kid with a Parrot he got for Christmas and either doesn't know that trying to spy on other people is frowned upon, or is just having fun flying around the area. And then some knucklehead fires a shotgun into the air to shoot him down in the middle of a crowded neighborhood Quoted: fair advance warning . try flying a drone over my place .. and see what happens Sounds like we need some regulation since the hobby won't regulate itself. Like, if it's a neighborhood where I'm legally enjoined from discharging a weapon - it's also clearly unsafe to be flying a drone around. (ib4hurrhurrdronesareunconstitutional) |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:11:27 AM EDT
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Motion activated paint ball guns on the roof!
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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:48:23 AM EDT
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There should be a "Shotgun Rule" for drones.
If you are flying close enough to be taken down by a shotgun, then you are too close. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:11:24 AM EDT
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I hope he likes his jail time.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:31:15 AM EDT
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The guy should get a fine not 10 years in jail. Agree. Pay for the drone, plus an extra 500 to the owner of the drone since he had to deal with this bullshit and 1000 to the state for wasting law enforcement's time. Sending someone to jail for shooting a remote controlled toy is stupid. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:46:47 AM EDT
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Good. I've never seen as many emotional responses over "drones" as I have in the shooting community. It's sickening. I'm getting tired of people chest thumping about how they're going to shoot down and destroy another person's private property because of some perceived "spying" issue. Did you see all the responses to Google Glass where chest-thumpers stated they would flat out assault anyone they encountered wearing Glass? It was interdasting to say the least. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:49:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:53:30 AM EDT
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I agree. Fined heavily. NJ went retard on that. Most-likely the gun-control lobby had a hand in whatever law governs what he did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The guy should get a fine not 10 years in jail. I agree. Fined heavily. NJ went retard on that. Most-likely the gun-control lobby had a hand in whatever law governs what he did. Federal Law (18 USC 32) states: (a) Whoever willfully— (1) sets fire to, damages, destroys, disables, or wrecks any aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States or any civil aircraft used, operated, or employed in interstate, overseas, or foreign air commerce; ...shall be fined under this title (up to $250k) or imprisoned not more than twenty years or both. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:58:53 AM EDT
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Sounds like we need some regulation since the hobby won't regulate itself. The commercial side of drones is in the process of being regulated by the FAA (requiring training, licensing, registration of drones etc) The hobby side of it is also in the process of self-regulating with the following guidelines: Follow community-based safety guidelines, as developed by organizations such as the Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA). Fly no higher than 400 feet and remain below any surrounding obstacles when possible. Keep your sUAS in eyesight at all times, and use an observer to assist if needed. Remain well clear of and do not interfere with manned aircraft operations, and you must see and avoid other aircraft and obstacles at all times. Do not intentionally fly over unprotected persons or moving vehicles, and remain at least 25 feet away from individuals and vulnerable property. Contact the airport or control tower before flying within five miles of an airport. Do not fly in adverse weather conditions such as in high winds or reduced visibility. Do not fly under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Ensure the operating environment is safe and that the operator is competent and proficient in the operation of the sUAS. Do not fly near or over sensitive infrastructure or property such as power stations, water treatment facilities, correctional facilities, heavily traveled roadways, government facilities, etc. Check and follow all local laws and ordinances before flying over private property. Do not conduct surveillance or photograph persons in areas where there is an expectation of privacy without the individual’s permission (see AMA’s privacy policy). Manufacturers are also self-regulating - the higher-end drone I operate has built in no-fly zones around airports (try flying into one and it automatically lands), it also ships in a beginners mode with height and distance restrictions. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:00:17 AM EDT
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Honestly it'd probably be worth getting one just to enrage rednecks by hovering above their house with it. You would be disappointed, most people who see me flying a drone come up to tell me how cool it is, no blading, drawing down, or calling the cops. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:15:44 AM EDT
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The guy should get a fine not 10 years in jail. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 6:00:56 AM EDT
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The ARFCOM members who are so extreme, pounding their chest and stating "I'll shoot you down if you come over my property!", are extremely uneducated on this topic. Further, they are extremely hypocritical!
It would be great if ARFCOM could have a rule where anytime the word "DRONE" was displayed, a random algorithm would randomize and select any of the following words in its place and authored by another use: - AR15 - Guns - Firearms - GLOCK - DRONE - Magazine - {etc} Then go back and re-read that sentence again. I would wager that a majority of the ARFCOMers who made the anti-drone statement would be offended, once the word changed and it was authored by someone else. For the most part, it works very cleanly, at least to the point where one would understand how silly they sound. As gun owners, we have all seen the persecution against us. It covers a wide variety of topics, from ammo restrictions to the color or look of the weapon. The topics are very close in comparison, hence the emotional reaction by these threads. Education is usually the best way to solve these ignorant ideals or thoughts, utilizing the same approach as the PRO-GUN industry. Overall, I can clearly understand why a person is feeling anti-drone, and if I didn't know better myself, I could have formed a similar opinion. I have taken anti-drone people and let them fly (under supervision) the crafts FPV and I have yet to have anyone not walk away in a different light. It doesn't mean that those individuals are now instantly ignorant towards pro-drone either; as with anything, understanding something requires one to apply logic. Just with firearms, a person controls the item and has to make the right decision when operating. I think it would be fair to say that all of us in the ARFCOM community agree it is not right if a wacko takes a gun out and shoots 20 people at a mall, right? Further, I would wager to say that I also believe the group would be against banning high capacity magazines, because of that mall shooting - right? The same logic applies to the owner/operator/enthusiasts of "Drones". - Mike |
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