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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:27:16 PM EDT
[#1]
I just solve the problem..... No tap whatever.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:28:51 PM EDT
[#2]
Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:29:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Wrong. If the mag's not seated, NOTHING else that you do will correct the problem.
End of discussion. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:29:47 PM EDT
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Unless you just loaded a new mag, tap-rack-bang wastes time and you should only rack-bang. Discuss. On an AR it's tap PULL rack, bang. On a pistol it's still TRB, gotta make sure that mag is seated. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:29:48 PM EDT
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. Yup. Tap Rack Bang. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:29:52 PM EDT
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S.P.O.R.T.S
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:30:00 PM EDT
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. I've had this happen in competition. Very annoying. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:30:37 PM EDT
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Tap,rack,bang is correct.
Although, if I'm in a firefight, I'd just rip the mag out, clear, and go for a new one. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:30:40 PM EDT
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Unless you just loaded a new mag, tap-rack-bang wastes time and you should only rack-bang. Discuss. You've never seen an improperly seated mag successfully feed 3 or 4 rounds before it drops enough to not feed? Happens occasionally with new shooters at my USPSA matches. TRB for me is the first option when I get an in battery click. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:31:35 PM EDT
[#10]
there arent too many on here that tap or bang, just rack
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:32:35 PM EDT
[#11]
I think you mean tap rack assess.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:33:14 PM EDT
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Wrong. If the mag's not seated, NOTHING else that you do will correct the problem. End of discussion. Boom. I've had a mag unseat after a couple rounds. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:34:34 PM EDT
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Ah, the old rack-bang-clatter-click drill.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:34:43 PM EDT
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OP is kinda right, tap-rack-bang is wrong, but not for the reason he outlined. It should be tap-rack-REASSESS then bang if needed.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:36:58 PM EDT
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OP is kinda right, tap-rack-bang is wrong, but not for the reason he outlined. It should be tap-rack-REASSESS then bang if needed. This. Tap rack reassess. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:37:15 PM EDT
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Disagree.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:38:44 PM EDT
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I was taught Tap, Rack, Ready. As police, we were taught (back in the '90s) to analyze whether deadly force was still justified. If not, no bang.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:38:46 PM EDT
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Its quite often tap-rack-KABOOM! You just ejected an empty case and left a bullet stuck in the barrel, just waiting for the next cartridge to be lit off and blow the HELL out of your rifle/carbine.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:39:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Tap Rack Bang w/o the tap is usually a lot of rack and not much bang.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:42:00 PM EDT
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I've had pistol mags not seat correctly but still feed one or two rounds, before everything goes pear-shaped.
It has it's place. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:43:41 PM EDT
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Wrong. If the mag's not seated, NOTHING else that you do will correct the problem. End of discussion. This. "Tap" is step one for a damn good reason. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:45:00 PM EDT
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Its quite often tap-rack-KABOOM! You just ejected an empty case and left a bullet stuck in the barrel, just waiting for the next cartridge to be lit off and blow the HELL out of your rifle/carbine. Does that happen? Yeah, probably. Often? 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:46:59 PM EDT
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Does that happen? Yeah, probably. Often? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its quite often tap-rack-KABOOM! You just ejected an empty case and left a bullet stuck in the barrel, just waiting for the next cartridge to be lit off and blow the HELL out of your rifle/carbine. Does that happen? Yeah, probably. Often? Mebbe he uses Glocks? 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:47:49 PM EDT
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S.P.O.R.T.S This.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:49:19 PM EDT
[#25]
I have solved a problem before with tap-rack-bang. My mag wasn't seated properly and lasted a few rounds before coming loose. A quick tap was enough to seat it and fix the problem.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:50:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:50:50 PM EDT
[#27]
I like the morale patch, but I'm not all that classy.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 11:52:06 PM EDT
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OP is kinda right, tap-rack-bang is wrong, but not for the reason he outlined. It should be tap-rack-REASSESS then bang if needed. Annnnd there is some validity to this too. I almost had a KB in a match due to a squib. I instinctively went tap-rack- and almost had a HUGE bang if the RO wouldn't have caught me before pulling the trigger. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:05:50 AM EDT
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. And you don't slam mags home like a man. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:07:21 AM EDT
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Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. It has happened to me one time, and it was a Gen 4 G17.
Still a Glock guy though.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:07:43 AM EDT
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Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. I've had it happen with a Glock.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:10:41 AM EDT
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OP is kinda right, tap-rack-bang is wrong, but not for the reason he outlined. It should be tap-rack-REASSESS then bang if needed. This. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:14:02 AM EDT
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Its quite often tap-rack-KABOOM! You just ejected an empty case and left a bullet stuck in the barrel, just waiting for the next cartridge to be lit off and blow the HELL out of your rifle/carbine. Um... No. Do they happen? Yes. Often? No. An experienced shooter can usually tell the difference between a squib and a FTE/FTF |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:14:36 AM EDT
[#34]
Tap rack assess with handguns.
Push pull rack and roll with ARs. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:00 AM EDT
[#35]
I must be getting old, at Gunsite I remember it was tap roll and rack for handguns.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:15:01 AM EDT
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Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. And you don't slam mags home like a man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. And you don't slam mags home like a man. You can bump the mag catch under recoil especially with actual man sized hands instead of girlie mitts. That will most definitely unseat a mag. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:18:00 AM EDT
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I've had this happen in competition. Very annoying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. I've had this happen in competition. Very annoying. Same here. TRB and it was running again. BTW, the 4506 requires an assertive magazine insertion.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:19:57 AM EDT
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S.P.O.R.T.S CATM said SPORTS was wrong. Slap (seat the magazine) Rack (Pull the charging handle) Pull (Pull the trigger) |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:21:52 AM EDT
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You've never seen an improperly seated mag successfully feed 3 or 4 rounds before it drops enough to not feed? Happens occasionally with new shooters at my USPSA matches. TRB for me is the first option when I get an in battery click. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you just loaded a new mag, tap-rack-bang wastes time and you should only rack-bang. Discuss. You've never seen an improperly seated mag successfully feed 3 or 4 rounds before it drops enough to not feed? Happens occasionally with new shooters at my USPSA matches. TRB for me is the first option when I get an in battery click. It's also possible to press the mag release while shooting. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:22:56 AM EDT
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This. Tap rack reassess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP is kinda right, tap-rack-bang is wrong, but not for the reason he outlined. It should be tap-rack-REASSESS then bang if needed. This. Tap rack reassess. Wrong BANG! is always needed.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:25:10 AM EDT
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It's also possible to press the mag release while shooting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you just loaded a new mag, tap-rack-bang wastes time and you should only rack-bang. Discuss. You've never seen an improperly seated mag successfully feed 3 or 4 rounds before it drops enough to not feed? Happens occasionally with new shooters at my USPSA matches. TRB for me is the first option when I get an in battery click. It's also possible to press the mag release while shooting. Do you use an oversized mag release? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:25:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:39:47 AM EDT
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You can bump the mag catch under recoil especially with actual man sized hands instead of girlie mitts. That will most definitely unseat a mag. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. Only if you use imperfect guns that are not Glocks. And you don't slam mags home like a man. You can bump the mag catch under recoil especially with actual man sized hands instead of girlie mitts. That will most definitely unseat a mag. I've never had that problem. Weird. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:43:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:54:19 AM EDT
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I've had this happen in competition. Very annoying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Magazines can come unseated after 1 or more rounds are fired. I've had this happen in competition. Very annoying. I am a National Range officer for IPSC and I have seen this so happen so often, I have lost count. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:03:25 AM EDT
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Unless you just loaded a new mag, tap-rack-bang wastes time and you should only rack-bang. Discuss. No... |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:12:51 AM EDT
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You have not a clue what you're talking about, but thanks for sharing. Good luck.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:16:07 AM EDT
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I must be getting old, at Gunsite I remember it was tap roll and rack for handguns. That is what I remember, and I'm not that old! Rolling seems to help, particularly with weak people who don't really rack with authority. I've never had an unseated magazine that didn't fall free after one round, so I have never actually "tapped" a mag back into place (although I still usually tap due to it being drilled in by instructors). In fact, my only malfunctions in recent memory were with an really dirty pistol that hadn't been oiled in a year, firing one-handed. In that case, racking alone was sufficient. However, I won't discount many others who have had a pistol fire several rounds from an unseated magazine. Use your own discretion. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:20:07 AM EDT
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I prefer to eject the magazine , throw it at the target while doing a superfast tactical reload , shoot the magazine so it explodes into a fireball of copper and lead, and then empty the new magazine into the target like an operator badass.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:21:57 AM EDT
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Unless you just loaded a new mag, tap-rack-bang wastes time and you should only rack-bang. Discuss. Maybe try discussing why it's wrong. No need to however, you're wrong and as others have already said, you need to make sure the mag is seated. It's 1/2 a second that could turn into your mag falling to the ground, you looking like a dumbass and ending up dead because you thought were smarter than all the others with much more experience than you. |
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