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Posted: 8/2/2015 6:39:56 PM EDT
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A small well-built house on a very large property has a lot of appeal to me. Many of the problems you guys list aren't real issues. Having people over? Entertain outdoors with a grill and nice patio. No place to store the ceramic cat collection? Good, you can spend your disposable income doing cool stuff, not collecting junk. I would need a garage for working on cars, and a shed to keep a mower and yard tools in. Maybe a little guest house too. Sounds like a compound of 4 small buildings is what I'm after. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile you must not live where you need much ac or heat id hardly call all of my firearms, ammo, books, guitars, and music "junk" |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:19:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends on the build. Rvs are not insulated as well as a tiny home of equivalent price can be. Plus there's value in the looks of one over a mass produced just like every other camper.  |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:22:52 PM EDT
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They are very stupid. That won't stop the hipsters from buying/building them. I have a tent that has as much floorspace as most of them, seriously. 
They are a fad that will fade into obscurity in just a few years. An RV makes much more sense, but it isn't nearly as "cool". FPNI |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 8:51:19 PM EDT
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6 months is a decent length of time but being in the summer it misses the hardest part.of the year, thats whats saving it. Maintenance helps but the stresses of a winter on a structure reveals what it is really made.of. It would be trashed after a full year of living in it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Depends on the build. Rvs are not insulated as well as a tiny home of equivalent price can be. Plus there's value in the looks of one over a mass produced just like every other camper. This. RVs are not built to live in full time. It will ruin most of them. Tiny houses are built to live in. Its a matter of quality. We spray foam insulate ours. Aviator Your enterprise, location, and insulating method is exactly what.I was.thinking of when I posted. Excellent point about RV live in time. They go to shit in about a.year of daily use. My Dad is on his third summer in his (about six months a shot) and it's doing just fine. Of course he takes care of his stuff, unlike most people. 6 months is a decent length of time but being in the summer it misses the hardest part.of the year, thats whats saving it. Maintenance helps but the stresses of a winter on a structure reveals what it is really made.of. It would be trashed after a full year of living in it. My grandparents lived in them full time after they retired and sold their house. They averaged 6-8yrs between upgrades. They were always in good shape when they traded them in. They were dragging them all over the country too. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:09:19 PM EDT
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Hell I bought more house than I need just so I can sell it. In my area it takes a long time to sell a house with less than 3 bedrooms let one only having one in the living room[B) In a perfect world I'd have a 2 bedroom with a mega garage and acreage My dream home is this on 20ac+ within biking distance of the Frio, near Leake. 
My current home is on 7ac, with 4bdr and more than double the sqft, lol. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:11:15 PM EDT
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Here's a couple of reasons why the tiny house thing doesn't make sense:
-Zoning: in a lot of places, especially places where hipsters live and places near work, there are minimum square footage requirements, size requirements based on occupancy. -Modern building codes adopted by many jurisdictions raise square footage costs, negating the savings of small, even if you are allowed to build small. -Biggest drawback: Tiny scale penalizes you greatly in a project: think, a 10X10 building gives you 100 sq. ft. for 40' circumference. Go twice as big, 20X20, double the circumference (80'), and you get FOUR TIMES the square footage, 400 sq. ft. In addition, a roof of the same pitch on the larger building gives you more usable head space under the roof. Any builder will tell you that a 20X20 building will not cost twice as much as the 10X10. There IS an economy of scale. There is, as others have indicated, resale value to consider. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:14:02 PM EDT
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One room cabin, Dick Proenneke style.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:14:54 PM EDT
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I need 10k sq ft or I get claustrophobic.
Just kidding. Floor plan is a much bigger factor than square footage. A room is a room is a room. There are parts of my house now where the only reason I go in there is to make sure squatters haven't moved in. Trade those for garage space (or more space in other rooms) in a heartbeat. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:21:40 PM EDT
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If you don't have to buy them or live in them then why do you care what other people live in ??? Would you prefer to see tent cities or low income or section 8 housing ?? Some of you people need better hobbies instead to come on here and do nothing but complain with all your free time If that were just the case. In five years, we will have social media "space shaming" people in houses larger than matchboxes. "You don't need that much space! Think of how many resources you waste with that 2,000sf house!" |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 9:34:21 PM EDT
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I don't get it, why not just buy a lightly used 5th wheel for half the price? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:16:02 AM EDT
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I can buy a new 10,000 pound 24 foot equipment trailer for 3K. For another 18K I could build the taj mahal on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Depends on the build. Rvs are not insulated as well as a tiny home of equivalent price can be. Plus there's value in the looks of one over a mass produced just like every other camper. Hard to do for that cost in Alaska. Aviator |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:17:55 AM EDT
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Here's a couple of reasons why the tiny house thing doesn't make sense: -Zoning: in a lot of places, especially places where hipsters live and places near work, there are minimum square footage requirements, size requirements based on occupancy. -Modern building codes adopted by many jurisdictions raise square footage costs, negating the savings of small, even if you are allowed to build small. -Biggest drawback: Tiny scale penalizes you greatly in a project: think, a 10X10 building gives you 100 sq. ft. for 40' circumference. Go twice as big, 20X20, double the circumference (80'), and you get FOUR TIMES the square footage, 400 sq. ft. In addition, a roof of the same pitch on the larger building gives you more usable head space under the roof. Any builder will tell you that a 20X20 building will not cost twice as much as the 10X10. There IS an economy of scale. There is, as others have indicated, resale value to consider. The wheels make it not a permanent structure and gets it around those zoning laws in most places. Aviator |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:18:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is true. Until you consider depreciation value of both the Tiny House vs a 5th wheel. As its pertains to Tiny Houses this is a new trend it is difficult to say how the resale of this type of product will be in the real world. Living in them will probably put them in a similar market as Mobile Homes, but only time will tell. In a very short period the 5th wheel will lose a lot of value. Half in only a few years. Campers are not meant to be lived in. 5th Wheels and RVs literally disintegrate eventually |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:20:51 AM EDT
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We have watched a bunch of these tiny house shows and honestly we just don't get it. $35K-$70K for a tiny house with a loft bedroom so small you couldn't even screw in? Give me a break. Why wouldn't you just buy a nice little 5th Wheel trailer like this http://www.rvwholesalers.com/new-rvs/142446407149074/New-2016-Heartland-RV-Elkridge-Express-E289-Fifth-Wheel-RV-For-Sale/ For $25K. Spend another $10K building a tin roofed pole barn to place it under and build a nice covered porch on the side. Are we nuts? Edit. I see the MSRP of $39K on the link I posted but if you go to their homepage and scroll down there is this unit and a few other Elkridge floorplans for around $25K.http://www.rvwholesalers.com/?gclid=CIm30f74iscCFVE7gQodwmcHKw Your wants/needs/desires/requirements/living style may not be the same as others. Why should people only do what you deem acceptable? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:20:54 AM EDT
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They are trying to get you accustomed to living with less. You can call me a tinfoiler but all TV is engineered to sway your opinion these days.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:29:21 AM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken it's pretty much exactly what Aviator is doing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, I could see myself in one for a little bit. Buy land and build a small house/cabin, and wait to build a larger house. That would be a good use. And it would make a cool guest house when you finish the main house. Personally, I would like a small cabin on some Mountain property as a getaway, since I live in the city. If I'm not mistaken it's pretty much exactly what Aviator is doing. I've been following his "building a cabin in Alaska" thread. I'd like to do something similar one day. Since I just bought a 3,800 sq ft house last year, it will probably be a while before I can afford it. 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:30:43 AM EDT
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I live in a tiny condo in a city. It's like a tiny house but it's greener and I can sell it for a profit.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:44:30 AM EDT
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That might work if you literally pay out of pocket for every little thing in the world which is more wasteful than having a normal 2,000 sqft house and a garage. Constantly have to pay for restaurant dinners because you can't entertain at home. Make people stay in hotels because you can't have guests. Keeping a handy man on speed dial because you need two screws and a drill, which you don't have space for. Find a mechanic that won't rape you if you have car problems. Expensive vacations because you have no room for any hobbies. Never have sex with some one else over because there's no walls in 90% of these tiny houses. That doesn't sound like freedom to me. Sounds like constantly paying out money to "stay free". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The über tiny houses that don't come with land? Yeah, no thanks. About 1000sq. ft. is about perfect for my uses. Anything more and I'm paying to heat/cool something that I am not using. I'd rather have 3x more garage space than house space, but that's just me. Oh, and 1+ ac plot at a minimum. Quoted:
Freedom to give up all your flaming worldly possessions. At some point, possessions end up making you their possession. Constantly have to pay for restaurant dinners because you can't entertain at home. Make people stay in hotels because you can't have guests. Keeping a handy man on speed dial because you need two screws and a drill, which you don't have space for. Find a mechanic that won't rape you if you have car problems. Expensive vacations because you have no room for any hobbies. Never have sex with some one else over because there's no walls in 90% of these tiny houses. That doesn't sound like freedom to me. Sounds like constantly paying out money to "stay free". If a guy is worried about entertaining and having sex, maybe a tiny house isnt for him. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 1:57:00 AM EDT
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Maybe as a guest house in the back yard but I would guess I could have something better constructed for less that isn't all hipster douchy-like.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 2:22:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hard to do for that cost in Alaska. Aviator Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Depends on the build. Rvs are not insulated as well as a tiny home of equivalent price can be. Plus there's value in the looks of one over a mass produced just like every other camper. Hard to do for that cost in Alaska. Aviator |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 3:04:28 AM EDT
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I like the idea of a cool, financially efficient, AND comfortable small home. But Tiny Trailers isn't my thing. Yep - Small just makes so much more sense than Tiny. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 6:43:09 AM EDT
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That is true. Until you consider depreciation value of both the Tiny House vs a 5th wheel. As its pertains to Tiny Houses this is a new trend it is difficult to say how the resale of this type of product will be in the real world. Living in them will probably put them in a similar market as Mobile Homes, but only time will tell. In a very short period the 5th wheel will lose a lot of value. Half in only a few years. Campers are not meant to be lived in. 5th Wheels and RVs literally disintegrate eventually Eventually? How long is eventually? 15 years? 1,500 years? Under a pole barn and out of the elements as I mentioned and well supported with the ladder frame up on blocks I bet you could get 10 - 15 years out of one. You would definitely want a nice covered screen porch for a grill and a alcove for a washer/dryer. Upside, you're already wired for 12 volts so a small PV system could help out with power. Downside, you would want to do some plumbing to delete the black/gray water tanks and hook up to sewer/septic. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 6:59:06 AM EDT
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Your wants/needs/desires/requirements/living style may not be the same as others. Why should people only do what you deem acceptable? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have watched a bunch of these tiny house shows and honestly we just don't get it. $35K-$70K for a tiny house with a loft bedroom so small you couldn't even screw in? Give me a break. Why wouldn't you just buy a nice little 5th Wheel trailer like this http://www.rvwholesalers.com/new-rvs/142446407149074/New-2016-Heartland-RV-Elkridge-Express-E289-Fifth-Wheel-RV-For-Sale/ For $25K. Spend another $10K building a tin roofed pole barn to place it under and build a nice covered porch on the side. Are we nuts? Edit. I see the MSRP of $39K on the link I posted but if you go to their homepage and scroll down there is this unit and a few other Elkridge floorplans for around $25K.http://www.rvwholesalers.com/?gclid=CIm30f74iscCFVE7gQodwmcHKw Your wants/needs/desires/requirements/living style may not be the same as others. Why should people only do what you deem acceptable? What I deem acceptable? Who gives a shit? So no one is allowed to have an opinion here anymore? 
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Posted: 8/3/2015 7:18:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Build it in the lower 48 and pull the blasted thing up there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Depends on the build. Rvs are not insulated as well as a tiny home of equivalent price can be. Plus there's value in the looks of one over a mass produced just like every other camper. Hard to do for that cost in Alaska. Aviator |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 7:19:39 AM EDT
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Build it in the lower 48 and pull the blasted thing up there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Depends on the build. Rvs are not insulated as well as a tiny home of equivalent price can be. Plus there's value in the looks of one over a mass produced just like every other camper. Hard to do for that cost in Alaska. Aviator After traveling on ALCAN I wonder how structurally sound it would be. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 7:34:48 AM EDT
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What I deem acceptable? Who gives a shit? So no one is allowed to have an opinion here anymore?
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We have watched a bunch of these tiny house shows and honestly we just don't get it. $35K-$70K for a tiny house with a loft bedroom so small you couldn't even screw in? Give me a break. Why wouldn't you just buy a nice little 5th Wheel trailer like this http://www.rvwholesalers.com/new-rvs/142446407149074/New-2016-Heartland-RV-Elkridge-Express-E289-Fifth-Wheel-RV-For-Sale/ For $25K. Spend another $10K building a tin roofed pole barn to place it under and build a nice covered porch on the side. Are we nuts? Edit. I see the MSRP of $39K on the link I posted but if you go to their homepage and scroll down there is this unit and a few other Elkridge floorplans for around $25K.http://www.rvwholesalers.com/?gclid=CIm30f74iscCFVE7gQodwmcHKw Your wants/needs/desires/requirements/living style may not be the same as others. Why should people only do what you deem acceptable? What I deem acceptable? Who gives a shit? So no one is allowed to have an opinion here anymore?
Sure you are. You have an opinion. I have an opinion on your opinion. You're basically calling people 'nuts' that want to live in smaller spaces. I'm not one of those nuts, but I've seen some pretty cool shit done in some pretty small spaces. I'm single and living in a 3 bedroom, 1200sq ft house with a 2 car garage. I wouldn't really want to go smaller, but that still doesn't prevent me from thinking some smaller places can be pretty cool. Anyway, I'm just jumping your shit for measuring other people's wants/needs/desires/etc by your own ruler. It surely doesn't harm you if some hipster douchenozzles want to live in a 10x10 box, now does it? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 8:25:48 AM EDT
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The wheels make it not a permanent structure and gets it around those zoning laws in most places. Aviator Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's a couple of reasons why the tiny house thing doesn't make sense: -Zoning: in a lot of places, especially places where hipsters live and places near work, there are minimum square footage requirements, size requirements based on occupancy. -Modern building codes adopted by many jurisdictions raise square footage costs, negating the savings of small, even if you are allowed to build small. -Biggest drawback: Tiny scale penalizes you greatly in a project: think, a 10X10 building gives you 100 sq. ft. for 40' circumference. Go twice as big, 20X20, double the circumference (80'), and you get FOUR TIMES the square footage, 400 sq. ft. In addition, a roof of the same pitch on the larger building gives you more usable head space under the roof. Any builder will tell you that a 20X20 building will not cost twice as much as the 10X10. There IS an economy of scale. There is, as others have indicated, resale value to consider. The wheels make it not a permanent structure and gets it around those zoning laws in most places. Aviator True. And it's all hip and cheap until you have to shower or shit. Then this thing has to be hooked up to a well and septic system. You can figure about $15K each. Or do we just park this thing in Mommy's yard and use HER bathroom? |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 8:27:29 AM EDT
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A tiny house is an RV but not fucking ugly as shit. I don't see the problem.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 8:44:01 AM EDT
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The way I see it is that the tiny house movement is just the societal backlash to the mcmansion craze. We went from the generation coming back from ww2 and building houses like gangbusters in the 750-1500 sq ft range to their boomer children building 4500 sq ft houses for the same size family. If you like your giganto mini mansion then great, but they do tend to be energy hogs with wasted space. Tiny houses are the anti-materialistic counterpoint to that. Plus, if you don't have much room inside your house, where are you going to spend most of your time? I don't think anyone would consider spending more time outside a bad thing.
I'm a happy medium kind of guy and like well designed smaller (pre-mcmansion normal) houses. More energy efficient, easier to keep clean, etc. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 8:46:58 AM EDT
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I can see downsizing from the 2k sq feet now that the kids are gone, to around 1k.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:10:40 AM EDT
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Sometimes 640 (same cabin as Beekeeper) square feet gets tight. House of Mrs. Surf and Surf along with Zorgie. Some day there will be a mother of all garage build here on Arfcom.
The tiny house concept is a way to get aroun minimum square footage requirements and property taxes. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:13:36 AM EDT
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I never understood the tiny house thing. It looks like a bad investment and a bad idea all the way around. This I'd guess that more folks wouldn't want a tiny house than would want to live in one, so basically wouldn't it be a niche market? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:15:04 AM EDT
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Sometimes 640 (same cabin as Beekeeper) square feet gets tight. House of Mrs. Surf and Surf along with Zorgie. Some day there will be a mother of all garage build here on Arfcom. <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/user/flytosail/media/image.jpg1_zpszjleliy3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/image.jpg1_zpszjleliy3.jpg</a> The tiny house concept is a way to get aroun minimum square footage requirements and property taxes. This is much better than the tiny house on wheels. I would love to get a cabin like that. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:18:00 AM EDT
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I generally think they're a stupid idea and satisfy some hippie psychological need. The only utility I could see is for use as a quasi travel travel but I guess I would just buy an airstream.
I'm looking at some property up in the Blowing rock area of NC right now. One of the problems though is break-ins on unoccupied cabins for meth cooking. That would suck....that's one of the reasons I'm looking at movable options. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:22:15 AM EDT
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I'll stick with my 3900 SF of freedom!
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:29:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen the show a few times. These people must sit in their singular chair and stare at the walls all day. No room for any hobby stuff or storage is limited to something the size of a cardboard box. Just build a nice 500 sqft cabin and have 100 times better living quality. They might be good for a weekend getaway, or to live in temporarily while moving to a new city. As a full time 10 year home, no way in hell. I think the hobby is the DESIGN of the things. People are having fun thinking about them, as far as doing? Only a few whackadoodle liberal cities are making them for homeless people, otherwise nobody wants them. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:46:13 AM EDT
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I've seen people build big metal buildings or pole barns and park a 5th wheel inside and live in that. Seems a safer, less cost prohibitive option.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 9:53:22 AM EDT
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Fuck...looks like you could easily build one for well under 10 grand. I'd love to see you try and build a good quality one for that much... Aviator I think the thing that catches me up are the ones on a trailer frame. I can understand a 500-600 square foot stuck built HOUSE on a pad or crawl space. I follow that, but the ones built on a 20 foot utility trailer are the ones I don't understand. It just makes me wonder "what are these people running from?" |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 10:59:36 AM EDT
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I've seen people build big metal buildings or pole barns and park a 5th wheel inside and live in that. Seems a safer, less cost prohibitive option. That's what I'm thinking for that property in NC.......Put a pole barn, pour a slab, drop a well and septic and run electric so I can park a trailer in there when I want to spend time in the mountains. I really want a cabin but I've just heard too many horror stories on unoccupied cabins becoming crash pads/ meth labs... The only issue that I think I'll have to deal with is that I'll have to cut a road in to get to the property and I think It'll take a couple switch backs to make it work. Not sure I can get a trailer up there. Maybe just throw up a DRASH |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 11:03:16 AM EDT
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I think they'd be cool if you had some land somewhere and just needed a spot to stay for hunting or a weekend, etc. I guess it's an alternative to a pop-up camper.
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:01:43 PM EDT
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We went from the generation coming back from ww2 and building houses like gangbusters in the 750-1500 sq ft range to their boomer children building 4500 sq ft houses for the same size family. If you like your giganto mini mansion then great, but they do tend to be energy hogs with wasted space. Tiny houses are the anti-materialistic counterpoint to that. Plus, if you don't have much room inside your house, where are you going to spend most of your time? I don't think anyone would consider spending more time outside a bad thing. Also, a lot of modern "McMansions" don't have much (if any) porch space. A good porch encourages more outdoor time. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:10:58 PM EDT
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Agenda 21 in action. lol I think it's people getting sick of excessive materialism and high mortgages. But whatever. It's not much different than folks living in small trailers on land, but now the homes are more custom and use very innovative, space saving features. If I were single and didn't have three kids, I've give it a try on 25 acres. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:14:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHell yes. I honestly don't know why people need one with wheels on it... unless they just don't own property. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:21:16 PM EDT
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I honestly don't know why people need one with wheels on it... unless they just don't own property. Some zoning laws specify a minimum size for houses. Having wheels on the house circumvents that law, because typically, the law doesn't apply to trailers. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:23:22 PM EDT
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Give me a tiny house in the country, and I'll make use of it. Just give me a large porch. :)
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:26:55 PM EDT
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While I think they are stupid, only to a point. The underlying problem does exists - for a huge percentage of the population, our homes are excessive. This last weekend I drove by a neat housing project (not sure if it was subsidized, or just a deveoper). They build a bunch of 20's style bungalows (I bet around 800sq foot). My first house was about that size. 2 bedroom, bath, dining, living, and kitchen. You know - that is more than enough for a lot of people - especially retired people.
I lived for years in about 200sq foot. I still live in that about 5 days a week. The trick is, you live your life outside of it - it is primarily a place to sleep. I can cook, eat, shower, etc... But honestly most of that is elsewhere. Then again, my main house is almost 4k plus another 2k warehouse, plus barns and sheds and 300 or so acres to play on. |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:29:05 PM EDT
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I want to buy some land and put a tiny house on it for a nice get away spot. I could build a big house for 70k though. But you already have the best house. Brag much |
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Posted: 8/3/2015 12:55:29 PM EDT
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lol I think it's people getting sick of excessive materialism and high mortgages. But whatever. It's not much different than folks living in small trailers on land, but now the homes are more custom and use very innovative, space saving features. If I were single and didn't have three kids, I've give it a try on 25 acres. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Agenda 21 in action. lol I think it's people getting sick of excessive materialism and high mortgages. But whatever. It's not much different than folks living in small trailers on land, but now the homes are more custom and use very innovative, space saving features. If I were single and didn't have three kids, I've give it a try on 25 acres. For many that's exactly what it is. Income stability today is a lot different then it was a few decades ago. People are forced to change jobs, and sometimes careers, and the requirement is often unexpected. Also, in a lot of areas of the country real estate doesn't sell as fast as it once did. Sometimes it takes many months, or longer, to complete a sale. So getting into a long-term debt based on what's probably, good or bad, going to be a temporary situation might not be the smartest thing in the world to do. You might have your household income cut, you might find a better opportunity in another area, or region, and need to move. There are all sorts of reasons people are becoming conservative with their consumption and the acquisition of "stuff". At the end of the day it's about freedom, and peace of mind. That's all we really want. Debt to buy stuff we don't need limits your options, and the stuff doesn't create long-term happiness. |
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I've been following it closely for a while and like the concept. But agree that hipsters and leftists have either taken it too far or are into it for the wrong reasons.
Just like the health food craze it seems like a cool way to live like a poor person for way more money. I want a small (not trailer tiny) house but with more land that way I could put three of them on the property. One small 1-2 BR 1Bath for the living area One 2 BR with a large common area and no kitchen for get togethers One mostly garage with 2 storage activity rooms. I think if done right it would be cheaper than a large house with all of it and you or the wife could retire early from functions at the common place. |
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