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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:50:24 PM EDT
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Sadly, that won't see use until at least January 2017.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:51:36 PM EDT
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The internet says this -12 is only good for a max of 50kt. That's a pretty small yield, even by today's standards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, it's hard to comprehend that that little thing would flatten a city. E=mc^2 is a bitch. The warhead in a B-61 isn't all that impressive. It's the precision and depth of delivery that makes it. Yeah fuck a lot of 340kt. Megatons, FTW!!! The internet says this -12 is only good for a max of 50kt. That's a pretty small yield, even by today's standards. 50 kt is plenty if you hit the target right in the kissah. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:52:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 72-73, whatever it takes.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe the true delivery vehicle would be the SR-72? I doubt they would use an F-15 to delivery this thing. 72-73, whatever it takes. More likely a drone that has not been made public yet will probably deliver the "Freedom enema" |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:55:00 PM EDT
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Sadly, that won't see use until at least January 2017. Or there's a couple loaded up right now down in ole Knob Knoster MO. I'd bet a wooden nickel there's some in the WSA as we speak. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:56:56 PM EDT
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Or there's a couple loaded up right now down in ole Knob Knoster MO. I'd bet a wooden nickel there's some in the WSA as we speak. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sadly, that won't see use until at least January 2017. Or there's a couple loaded up right now down in ole Knob Knoster MO. I'd bet a wooden nickel there's some in the WSA as we speak. White man privilege in action? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:58:54 PM EDT
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Sadly, that won't see use until at least January 2017. Or there's a couple loaded up right now down in ole Knob Knoster MO. I'd bet a wooden nickel there's some in the WSA as we speak. White man privilege in action? 
Damn whitey |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:00:33 PM EDT
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GIPPED!!
No physics package  .
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:02:21 PM EDT
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Fake photoshop video.
I can tell because I saw a documentary where Slim Pickens rode one down....didn't see Pickens on this, therefore FAKE  |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:03:22 PM EDT
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Really now. 
Why would they be practicing this, I wonder. Not a practice mission. The tail code "OT" on theF-15 says it's an Operational Test and Evaluation mission of a modified bomb or aircraft. Quite possibly a certification test for the F-15E with that version of the B-61. FYI - I worked for the people who flew the OT tail code for 10 years. It was the Tactical Air Warfare Center (TAWC) at Eglin AFB, FL back in my day. Now it's the USAF Air Warfare Center based at Nellis AFB, NV after combining with the Fighter Weapons Center back in the late 1990s / early 2000s. Eglin is now the 53rd Wing and Nellis is the 57th Wing. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:04:05 PM EDT
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Where's the kaboom? There is supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom. lol 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:11:05 PM EDT
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The internet says this -12 is only good for a max of 50kt. That's a pretty small yield, even by today's standards. It's not the size of your bomb, it's how far you stick it down the hole that matters. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:17:27 PM EDT
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72-73, whatever it takes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe the true delivery vehicle would be the SR-72? I doubt they would use an F-15 to delivery this thing. 72-73, whatever it takes. SR87. FtMfW!!! |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:24:36 PM EDT
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Maybe the true delivery vehicle would be the SR-72? I doubt they would use an F-15 to delivery this thing. 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:28:54 PM EDT
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Where's the kaboom? There is supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom. lol Someone stole the illudium Pu-38 explosive space modulator. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:48:02 PM EDT
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The bomb is carrying a new guidance set. I'm surprised it is spinning.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:50:00 PM EDT
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Because since we're not developing new nuclear weapons we are stuck trying to modernize and keep effective old designs like the B61 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really now.
Why would they be practicing this, I wonder. Because since we're not developing new nuclear weapons we are stuck trying to modernize and keep effective old designs like the B61 Part of me wonders if we're better off sticking to designs that have actually been tested, instead of a shiny new design that cannot be tested.
Newer would be better, but without real, no-bullshit testing, I'm not sure I want to trust our national security to a design which "should work". |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:53:06 PM EDT
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Part of me wonders if we're better off sticking to designs that have actually been tested, instead of a shiny new design that cannot be tested.
Newer would be better, but without real, no-bullshit testing, I'm not sure I want to trust our national security to a design which "should work". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really now.
Why would they be practicing this, I wonder. Because since we're not developing new nuclear weapons we are stuck trying to modernize and keep effective old designs like the B61 Part of me wonders if we're better off sticking to designs that have actually been tested, instead of a shiny new design that cannot be tested.
Newer would be better, but without real, no-bullshit testing, I'm not sure I want to trust our national security to a design which "should work". Nuclear weapon design is pretty well figured out. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:56:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 72-73, whatever it takes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe the true delivery vehicle would be the SR-72? I doubt they would use an F-15 to delivery this thing. 72-73, whatever it takes. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2607840/Is-THIS-SR-72-spy-plane-Mystery-aircraft-spotted-flying-Kansas-just-weeks-seen-Texas.html |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:58:08 PM EDT
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Really now.
Why would they be practicing this, I wonder. See the dudes in plain clothes on the flight line, that's the engineering staff that works on them. They are constantly modernizing the devices and delivery systems, all of it has to be tested to work 100 %. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:01:15 PM EDT
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Because since we're not developing new nuclear weapons we are stuck trying to modernize and keep effective old designs like the B61 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they be practicing this, I wonder. Because since we're not developing new nuclear weapons we are stuck trying to modernize and keep effective old designs like the B61 There you go being all reasonable and logical and shit........ |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:02:50 PM EDT
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Nuclear weapon design is pretty well figured out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they be practicing this, I wonder. Because since we're not developing new nuclear weapons we are stuck trying to modernize and keep effective old designs like the B61 Part of me wonders if we're better off sticking to designs that have actually been tested, instead of a shiny new design that cannot be tested.
Newer would be better, but without real, no-bullshit testing, I'm not sure I want to trust our national security to a design which "should work". Nuclear weapon design is pretty well figured out. And we know the W-80 works already. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:05:53 PM EDT
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The internet says this -12 is only good for a max of 50kt. That's a pretty small yield, even by today's standards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, it's hard to comprehend that that little thing would flatten a city. E=mc^2 is a bitch. The warhead in a B-61 isn't all that impressive. It's the precision and depth of delivery that makes it. Yeah fuck a lot of 340kt. Megatons, FTW!!! The internet says this -12 is only good for a max of 50kt. That's a pretty small yield, even by today's standards. better targeting, less Sunshine needed...the old ones were as big as they were because the CEP was measured in Clicks not Meters...that said, it's still amazing to me how accurate they were BEFORE the -12 when Delivery was via lob toss. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:09:36 PM EDT
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The internet says this -12 is only good for a max of 50kt. That's a pretty small yield, even by today's standards. you don't need a big yield if you can hit what you want to destroy. our doctrine has been moving away from crowd pleasers and more and more into delivering to the doorstep of who or what were want to kill. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:10:42 PM EDT
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More likely a drone that has not been made public yet will probably deliver the "Freedom enema" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe the true delivery vehicle would be the SR-72? I doubt they would use an F-15 to delivery this thing. 72-73, whatever it takes. More likely a drone that has not been made public yet will probably deliver the "Freedom enema" why use a drone when you could use a cruise missile? a cruise missile would make a lot more sense than a drone. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:17:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:17:46 PM EDT
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I want to see a B52 carpet bomb a target with those. It would be biblical
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:20:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryNuke watch......lol. Through comprehensive research, public education and effective citizen action, Nuclear Watch New Mexico seeks to promote safety and environmental protection at regional nuclear facilities; mission diversification away from nuclear weapons programs; greater accountability and cleanup in the nation-wide nuclear weapons complex; and consistent U.S. leadership toward a world free of nuclear weapons. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:20:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:21:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:22:15 PM EDT
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lots of teasing then no bank
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:26:12 PM EDT
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why not put a GPS guidance unit on it?
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:26:42 PM EDT
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why use a drone when you could use a cruise missile? a cruise missile would make a lot more sense than a drone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe the true delivery vehicle would be the SR-72? I doubt they would use an F-15 to delivery this thing. 72-73, whatever it takes. More likely a drone that has not been made public yet will probably deliver the "Freedom enema" why use a drone when you could use a cruise missile? a cruise missile would make a lot more sense than a drone. These need to be dropped from fairly high altitude or extremely high speed to work right. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:26:46 PM EDT
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Loaded many of those on the F-16. no you didn't afa loading "many" you didn't do that either. some "practice" load yeah sure |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:27:33 PM EDT
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The warhead in a B-61 isn't all that impressive. It's the precision and depth of delivery that makes it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, it's hard to comprehend that that little thing would flatten a city. E=mc^2 is a bitch. The warhead in a B-61 isn't all that impressive. It's the precision and depth of delivery that makes it. 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:27:45 PM EDT
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What happened to Toss bombing to avoid the blast?
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:30:01 PM EDT
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why not put a GPS guidance unit on it? That's exactly what the video shows. It's a precision guidance tail swap much like the JDAM. Posted again from p.1. In May 2010 the National Nuclear Security Administration asked Congress for $40 million to redesign the bomb to enable the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II to carry the weapon internally by 2017.[23] This version is designated Mod 12.[24] The four hundred B61-12 bombs will be used by both tactical aircraft (such as the F-35) and strategic aircraft (such as the B-2) and the Tail Subassembly (TSA) will give them Joint Direct Attack Munition levels of accuracy, allowing the fifty kiloton warhead to have strategic effects from all carrying aircraft.[25] However, refitting the 400 weapons is now expected to cost over $10 billion.[26] The B61 Mod 12 tail assembly contract was awarded to Boeing on November 27, 2012 for $178 million.[27] Boeing will use their experience with the Joint Direct Attack Munition to yield JDAM equivalent accuracy in a nuclear bomb.[28] This contract is only the first part of the billion dollar expense of producing and applying the tail kits, over and above the $10 billion cost to refurbish the warheads.[29] The B61-12 uses an internal guidance system and can glide to its target. The bomb has four selectable yields: 0.3; 5; 10; and 50 kilotons.[30] On 1 July 2015, the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) conducted the first of three flight tests of the B61-12 tail kit assembly.[31] |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:32:24 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see so many experts here. All we need now is sylvan saying that since it can't be used for cas it's shit.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:32:35 PM EDT
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Damn, it's hard to comprehend that that little thing would flatten a city. E=mc^2 is a bitch. The warhead in a B-61 isn't all that impressive. It's the precision and depth of delivery that makes it. .3 to 340 KT Fat man was 34 KT |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:33:02 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see so many experts here. All we need now is sylvan saying that since it can't be used for cas it's shit.
I was hoping you would show up. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:34:01 PM EDT
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"Spin stabilized by rocket. 24 ft. Nylon/Kevlar-29 ribbon parachute
ejected by gas generator. Allows rapid deceleration from supersonic velocity (only 2 seconds required to decelerate to 35 mph). Tested at up to Mach 1.2" It has some good brakes. http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/B61.html |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:34:21 PM EDT
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What happened to Toss bombing to avoid the blast? It doesn't say for weapon, but the newest JDAM can go 45 NM. That's plenty even for a multi megaton bomb. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:35:35 PM EDT
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It appeared everyone had on their reflective PT belts, so how could the mission have failed.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:35:51 PM EDT
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I was hoping you would show up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm glad to see so many experts here. All we need now is sylvan saying that since it can't be used for cas it's shit.
I was hoping you would show up. it really doesn't matter. I can't say what I want to say to the "experts" or I would go to jail. I sure some crew chief from the 80s can fill us in though.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:36:49 PM EDT
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it really doesn't matter. I can't say what I want to say to the "experts" or I would go to jail. I sure some crew chief from the 80s can fill us in though.
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I'm glad to see so many experts here. All we need now is sylvan saying that since it can't be used for cas it's shit.
I was hoping you would show up. it really doesn't matter. I can't say what I want to say to the "experts" or I would go to jail. I sure some crew chief from the 80s can fill us in though.
Oh, not for details. Just cause I think its cool. You operate a kick ass aircraft and can drop a nuke. That is neat. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:37:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The airforce has really improved their video production quality. Someone must have traded an xbox for a gopro. Got some tips from ISIS |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:37:09 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see so many experts here. All we need now is sylvan saying that since it can't be used for cas it's shit.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:37:39 PM EDT
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I was hoping you would show up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm glad to see so many experts here. All we need now is sylvan saying that since it can't be used for cas it's shit.
I was hoping you would show up. Was that a hoping or hoping  ?
ETA: That's a pretty cool video. Don't forget your shades!
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:38:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They've got a super bunker buster bomb that can probably take out any Iranian subterranean target. Probably done to make a point after the talks, showing what will happen if Iran fails to keep their end of the deal. And to a lesser degree, try to calm down Israel, showing that we have a "plan" if Iran misbehaves. In theory, but then again Obama is in charge  |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:39:28 PM EDT
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.3 to 340 KT Fat man was 34 KT Why don't you explain it to me then, in terms that would relate to any oplans or national strategy currently on the shelf oh nothing to say then, well okay. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:39:39 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see so many experts here. All we need now is sylvan saying that since it can't be used for cas it's shit.
I was hoping you would show up. Was that a hoping or hoping ?Well, he is the only one on this forum that may have some real actual experience with this. I dont care about "details". I just thought the video was cool as fuck. I had no idea it was rocket spin stabilized. |
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