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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:26:14 AM EDT
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Clueless in Seattle
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:26:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Give me his job right now. Appoint me to be in charge. I will listen to my people under me, slap them on the back say good job. Head back to the head quarters and blow smoke up other peoples ass. THEY dont do shit! Figure heads and hand shakers. Just like YOUR politicians are. They dont deserve. 500 or 1000 percent more than the workers. I think you might be on to something. We could call these back patting, smoke blowing leeches "unproductive labor". There might be a book in this. A movement even. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:27:47 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:30:08 AM EDT
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I feel like I need in on this dogpile - Bernie/Spitcup '16! All PFCs immediately considered for battalion command! What could go wrong?
As to OP's point, yeah, it's bullshit. "Salary compression" is a concept that's sure to upset your high performers. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:30:54 AM EDT
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Give me his job right now. Appoint me to be in charge. I will listen to my people under me, slap them on the back say good job. Head back to the head quarters and blow smoke up other peoples ass. THEY dont do shit! Figure heads and hand shakers. Just like YOUR politicians are. They dont deserve. 500 or 1000 percent more than the workers. Just curious, what is the largest number of employees you've been responsible for and what percentage of the company was that? Being responsible. The CEO has several layers under him to get the job done. If the company goes tits up, he leaves and is appointed to another job. He is cushioned from the fuck up. How many CEO's have lost their life savings because of their fuck ups? Thousands of people worked their whole lives believing in THEIR company. Next thing you know, everything is gone. FUCK the CEO's and everyone else that takes the advantage of loyal workers that go to work everyday. You will NEVER convince me that CEO deserves the money they get. You will never be a CEO. If someone just gives him the job he will be CEO. Lol. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:31:02 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Wow, your level of ignorance is epic. If being a CEO is so easy, riddle me this. How come everyone isn't a CEO of their own company? Btw, this CEO made a bad decision. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:31:02 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! He was the FOUNDER, dipstick! He started the company  He must have known something before he went full retard socialist 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:33:04 AM EDT
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Anyone who quit sounds like the same dumbasses at work I hear blabbing about trivial shit that should have no impact upon them. Why isn't Larry at his desk? Hey what time did Larry come in this morning? Just shut the fuck and worry about yourselves. The CEO was making life better for everyone, but instead of looking at how it improved their well being, lets bitch about it because some dumb broad with a "I need to talk to a manager" haircut can't stfu and be content that things IMPROVED. Its never enough for some. So fuck them. This isn't socialism or economics at work, this is a guy making life better for his employees PERIOD. Get the political bullshit out of here. Right. You're a senior, n'est pas? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:36:39 AM EDT
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I feel like I need in on this dogpile - Bernie/Spitcup '16! All PFCs immediately considered for battalion command! What could go wrong? As to OP's point, yeah, it's bullshit. "Salary compression" is a concept that's sure to upset your high performers. I'm sure most high performers will demand more money or leave. A high performer doesn't want to work at a company that pays everyone equally. a high performer should work at a company that pays for performance so they can maximize their hard work. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:40:42 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Our CEO knows everyone's name, and if production is shorthanded, he'll come out and help, even if it means doing bitch work. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:41:19 AM EDT
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The grumbling about what others are being paid has been going on for millenia. Matthew 20 New International Version (NIV) The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard 20 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2 He agreed to pay them a denarius[a] for the day and sent them into his vineyard. 3 “About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4 He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ 5 So they went. “He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. 6 About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’ 7 “‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered. “He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’ 8 “When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’ 9 “The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12 ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’ 13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’ 16 “So the last will be first, and the first will be last.” I was going to post this myself. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:43:42 AM EDT
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Do the job you agreed to do for the price you agreed. It doesn't matter what the next guy is making. part of the problem is you agree to do a job for set pay. then they keep adding stuff for you to do. Some days I do 5-6 peoples job but I get paid less than just about all of them. People that brown nose and continuously screw the company by not doing shit seem to get the rewards of more pay, and sitting on their ass doing nothing or very little. Then when it comes time for a raise,, they make all kinds of excuses after they tell you what a great job you are doing. It gets real old when its the same story every year. So keeping my out for a better opportunity. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:46:37 AM EDT
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Iam going to the river here directly shut yall's mouth.
Iam still right in my minds eye. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:47:38 AM EDT
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Give me his job right now. Appoint me to be in charge. I will listen to my people under me, slap them on the back say good job. Head back to the head quarters and blow smoke up other peoples ass. THEY dont do shit! Figure heads and hand shakers. Just like YOUR politicians are. They dont deserve. 500 or 1000 percent more than the workers. You just can't fix stupid. Hello, stupid. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:48:27 AM EDT
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Off you go then. Start your own company and be CEO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Off you go then. Start your own company and be CEO. Ive had employees since i was a young guy still going to school. I am a general manager under our company owner with about 30 employees. In all the years ive been doing this ive met very few employees that are capable of doing their job without oversight, let alone run a company. Thats not a slight to them, im close to my guys but those arent skills that most possess. That's why it pays more than being a worker bee. Its so hard to find that even though i had skills in the field, i was pulled out of the field to be a manager at 19 bc my boss was desperate. A good example is ordering parts. We do mechanical service and about once a day i have this coversation. Employee. "Did you order parts so i can finish that job?" Me. "No i need to have someone get the info from the unit when they go next so i can order it" "Just order it, its the big king valve on the back of the compressor" 
"You didnt give me compressor model, pipe size, valve part number, or even a picture. No info at all, how do i order it?" "Just order it, its the big king valve on the back of the compressor"
Its always the same guy that says i just sit in the office and do nothing or the one that tells me i should do the job myself bc its hard. I always tell them ill go do the job myself, if i can fix it then they are terminated when i get back. No one ever takes me up on that offer. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:49:59 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! WOW |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:52:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure most high performers will demand more money or leave. A high performer doesn't want to work at a company that pays everyone equally. a high performer should work at a company that pays for performance so they can maximize their hard work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As to OP's point, yeah, it's bullshit. "Salary compression" is a concept that's sure to upset your high performers. I'm sure most high performers will demand more money or leave. A high performer doesn't want to work at a company that pays everyone equally. a high performer should work at a company that pays for performance so they can maximize their hard work. And it happens. Law and accounting are good examples - midsize firms think they'll attract better talent by raising their starting salary, but don't have the resources to propagate the percentage-wise increase up through their ranks. Untrained newbies now come making the same money as people with 3 and 4 years of experience. Mid-level workers leave because it drives home that the market can likely value them higher than where they are if less productive workers can make the same. Firms then spend more money re-hiring the ranks they just lost. Meritocracies work. Don't know how we ever got off that message. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 7:55:27 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! I grew up with my dad as a CEO of a company. You could not be more wrong in your description. Your post is literally the stupidest thing I have read today. Thank you for raising the bar. Or lowering it. Whichever your brain decides to accept. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:03:13 AM EDT
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Iam going to the river here directly shut yall's mouth. Iam still right in my minds eye. Sounds like your "minds eye" got jabbed with a stick... 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:05:19 AM EDT
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From my experience they dont start a company. So and so is brought on board and the stock goes up because his record has been pumped up. What did he do? Graduated from harvard, maybe the wharton school? Fuck him. I will give props for the guys that have stated his company and tends to it. The corporate guys who come in and the stock rises because he has been appointed, NO!! Fuck that. You will NEVER convince me he deserves the money or even cares. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Off you go then. Start your own company and be CEO. From my experience they dont start a company. So and so is brought on board and the stock goes up because his record has been pumped up. What did he do? Graduated from harvard, maybe the wharton school? Fuck him. I will give props for the guys that have stated his company and tends to it. The corporate guys who come in and the stock rises because he has been appointed, NO!! Fuck that. You will NEVER convince me he deserves the money or even cares. From your experience? Please tell me your experience. I am going to be real honest here: you are striking nerves. You sound like every dumb shit technician/production worker I've ever worked with that "knows it all." Do you want to know the difference between "being one of the guys" and being "the guy"? "The guy" busts his ass day in and day out for the success of not just himself, but the entire company. He doesn't look at others with envy, he looks to others for inspiration. He is a leader that can make tough decisions, hire the right people, balance budgets and ensure success of his company. "Being one of the guys" is easy. You get home from your 9-5 and sit your ass down in front of the computer, crack open a Budweiser and call it good. Executives don't have off time. CEOs often work 24/7, and of course they will share similarities with politicians. They are the face of their company, the leader, and the rock. Often times without them the company wouldn't exist. Here's a story from my time at Georgia State University during the Occupy Wall Street Movement: Everyday I walked to class and saw people bitching and complaining in tents in a park in the middle of the day. I was a 19 year old kid. I hated school. It was boring and structured and not challenging. Here I was working my ass off and still not feeling challenged. I look down upon those that want an "easy life". I want a challenging life, with goals and benchmarks. I looked at these people not doing shit, but wanting to take from those that worked. They held signs that said, " We are the 99 percent" No, you hippy, hairy bitch, you are the bottom 1 percent. I would tell them to speak for themselves; be envious, complain about not having money, but not do shit to better your situation. Want to know why NFL players make so much money? Because they are in the top .0001% of the world in their abilities. Want to know why you work production? Because you are a dime a fucking dozen. But what do I know? I'm just a 25 year old college dropout... |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:12:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How long have you worked at your job? How would you feel if some kid fresh out of high school starts on Monday and got the exact same wages, benefits and conditions you do? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some people just need to be miserable. One of the employees that quit got a $9,000 raise as part of the first phase, which means he has more coming. He only makes $41,000 so was just told he's getting a $29,000 raise so quits? Fuck that useless piece of ungrateful shit. Reminds me of when I was IBEW. Four or five coffee breaks a day, liquid lunches, didn't pay a penny for health insurance, unlimited paid sick days, unlimited overtime....and all the old guys did was complain they were getting fucked. "It ain't right what they're doing". Man did I get sick of hearing that. Day in and day out, "We're getting fucked" and "It ain't right what they're doing". The company started offering retirement packages. Two years pay and two years added to their pension for retirement eligible techs to leave (80% were retirement eligible). They all responded with a nonstop flurry of, "We're getting fucked". Then the company wanted to bring them all back as union-busters to break the union. They paid them $5,000 each with 20% pay raises to work on a week by week basis while they simultaneously collected their pensions (we also had 401k's along with pensions). Fuckers went from thug union guys to scabs in a heartbeat. You wanna know what they did all day? Cried, "We're getting fucked" and "It ain't right what they're doing", They even went so far as to complain to the union because we wouldn't let them go to drinking at lunch. Fuck that, I wouldn't let those "thugs turned scabs" do jack shit. They sabotaged everything they touched, I preferred letting them spend a loooong 8 hours sitting on their asses doing nothing. Well, that's what this CEO is seeing. He offered a guy a $29,000 raise and all that guy does in return is whine, "I'm getting fucked". How long have you worked at your job? How would you feel if some kid fresh out of high school starts on Monday and got the exact same wages, benefits and conditions you do? Even assuming that was true and happened exactly as you suggest, how is the new guy getting the same benefits reducing or impacting your benefits at all? How long should said noob need to 'pay his dues' before you'd be happy? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:19:26 AM EDT
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Not to mention - Guy 1 has a tough job with responsibilities that requires skills. Guy 2 hands out staples and pens for the same pay. Yeah, it sounds noble on the face.....but I'm not bringing expertise, skills, education and busting my ass for the same pay as the janitor. I'm also not going to be making $70k after 10 years of getting there, when the kid next to me walks in the door and makes that. He essentially got paid MORE than I did, because I had to work my way up, while he's getting $70k for all those 10 years of his service......vs 40K. 40k * 10 = 400K. 70K * 10 = 700k. He is going to get paid almost double what I did for those 10 years. That's fucked for me as the guy who worked there, gave the company my time.....and the newb gets a 300k raise? Yeah, I'd be bitter. That 300k would have been added to my retirement, invested. Could have been $500k by the time I was done with it. But the newb gets what I had to work for, for nothing. And he gets to collect it, as a minimum, for a decade longer than I? They'd have to compensate me for that, give me a raise to reflect my status above the newb, and we'd be good. But I'm not going to manage people who make as much or more than I. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:25:12 AM EDT
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I think its stupid that I'm paid at the end of the work week. The owner should give me that paycheck on Monday.... that would motivate me to do my job much better than the current system. Just like my parents giving me rewards for all the chores I was going to do later. Doesn't anybody understand how motivation works anymore?
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:28:23 AM EDT
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I think its stupid that I'm paid at the end of the work week. The owner should give me that paycheck on Monday.... that would motivate me to do my job much better than the current system. Just like my parents giving me rewards for all the chores I was going to do later. Doesn't anybody understand how motivation works anymore? Not sure if sarcasm, or if you are 12. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:33:25 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! So in your opinion - because Henry Ford couldn't build a Model T from the ground up, he wasn't necessary to the company? Just because all you see a CEO do is shake hands, that doesn't mean that's all there is to the job. I guarantee Henry Ford's assistant didn't need to remind him of anything. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:35:10 AM EDT
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I'm sure most high performers will demand more money or leave. A high performer doesn't want to work at a company that pays everyone equally. a high performer should work at a company that pays for performance so they can maximize their hard work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I feel like I need in on this dogpile - Bernie/Spitcup '16! All PFCs immediately considered for battalion command! What could go wrong? As to OP's point, yeah, it's bullshit. "Salary compression" is a concept that's sure to upset your high performers. I'm sure most high performers will demand more money or leave. A high performer doesn't want to work at a company that pays everyone equally. a high performer should work at a company that pays for performance so they can maximize their hard work. I don't understand why this is such a hard concept. Part of the reason why I left my firm and started my own is because there was a serious disconnect between performance (revenue generation and quality of work) and compensation. Even at the partner level, their formula was very attenuated in terms of rewarding performance. I was the highest-paid and highest-bonused associate, but it wasn't by a margin that reflected my performance. I left, took 85% of my work with me, and life is good now because I see direct consequences - positive and negative - for my performance. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:35:29 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Lol. Sure you could. Go get back in your tent, don't you have an Occupy rally to attend? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:38:14 AM EDT
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Not sure if sarcasm, or if you are 12. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think its stupid that I'm paid at the end of the work week. The owner should give me that paycheck on Monday.... that would motivate me to do my job much better than the current system. Just like my parents giving me rewards for all the chores I was going to do later. Doesn't anybody understand how motivation works anymore? Not sure if sarcasm, or if you are 12. Well, I can't be 12 because I have a 16 year old daughter. We had a discussion with her that related to this topic when it came to the "birds and the bees". Her mother and I explained to her that at the end of her dates, most especially the first, she should have sex if her date so desired. This would give them proper motivation to be a good boyfriend to her and certainly guarantee a lasting relationship. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:45:52 AM EDT
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Well, I can't be 12 because I have a 16 year old daughter. We had a discussion with her that related to this topic when it came to the "birds and the bees". Her mother and I explained to her that at the end of her dates, most especially the first, she should have sex if her date so desired. This would give them proper motivation to be a good boyfriend to her and certainly guarantee a lasting relationship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think its stupid that I'm paid at the end of the work week. The owner should give me that paycheck on Monday.... that would motivate me to do my job much better than the current system. Just like my parents giving me rewards for all the chores I was going to do later. Doesn't anybody understand how motivation works anymore? Not sure if sarcasm, or if you are 12. Well, I can't be 12 because I have a 16 year old daughter. We had a discussion with her that related to this topic when it came to the "birds and the bees". Her mother and I explained to her that at the end of her dates, most especially the first, she should have sex if her date so desired. This would give them proper motivation to be a good boyfriend to her and certainly guarantee a lasting relationship. 
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:47:20 AM EDT
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Give me his job right now. Appoint me to be in charge. I will listen to my people under me, slap them on the back say good job. Head back to the head quarters and blow smoke up other peoples ass. THEY dont do shit! Figure heads and hand shakers. Just like YOUR politicians are. They dont deserve. 500 or 1000 percent more than the workers. Serioisly, give you his job. Lol, Dude you probably couldn't even read a balance sheet and you think you could run a company? Your description of a CEOs job is so laughably ignorant its outrageous. Ask me how I know you have never had to b a leader and have no clue how demanding it is. I've never been a CEO but I have been a leader. I know what it's like to be responsible for the performanc e of a team. When I imagine what it takes to be a CEO and scale up that level of responsibility to something the size of a huge corporation the demands of the job seem staggering. They make so much because so few people are capable of doing the job and there is serious demand for people with those skills. You think some board of a major corporation is going to waste millions on some back slapper and hand shaker? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:55:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Spitcup thought he was revealing the ignorance of CEOs, but really, he only revealed his own ignorance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Off you go then. Start your own company and be CEO. This. Spitcup thought he was revealing the ignorance of CEOs, but really, he only revealed his own ignorance. Your username is quite applicable to this thread... |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:56:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I can't be 12 because I have a 16 year old daughter. We had a discussion with her that related to this topic when it came to the "birds and the bees". Her mother and I explained to her that at the end of her dates, most especially the first, she should have sex if her date so desired. This would give them proper motivation to be a good boyfriend to her and certainly guarantee a lasting relationship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think its stupid that I'm paid at the end of the work week. The owner should give me that paycheck on Monday.... that would motivate me to do my job much better than the current system. Just like my parents giving me rewards for all the chores I was going to do later. Doesn't anybody understand how motivation works anymore? Not sure if sarcasm, or if you are 12. Well, I can't be 12 because I have a 16 year old daughter. We had a discussion with her that related to this topic when it came to the "birds and the bees". Her mother and I explained to her that at the end of her dates, most especially the first, she should have sex if her date so desired. This would give them proper motivation to be a good boyfriend to her and certainly guarantee a lasting relationship. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:59:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:59:22 AM EDT
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! 
Occupy Wall Street much? |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 8:59:47 AM EDT
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From my experience they dont start a company. So and so is brought on board and the stock goes up because his record has been pumped up. What did he do? Graduated from harvard, maybe the wharton school? Fuck him. I will give props for the guys that have stated his company and tends to it. The corporate guys who come in and the stock rises because he has been appointed, NO!! Fuck that. You will NEVER convince me he deserves the money or even cares. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Off you go then. Start your own company and be CEO. From my experience they dont start a company. So and so is brought on board and the stock goes up because his record has been pumped up. What did he do? Graduated from harvard, maybe the wharton school? Fuck him. I will give props for the guys that have stated his company and tends to it. The corporate guys who come in and the stock rises because he has been appointed, NO!! Fuck that. You will NEVER convince me he deserves the money or even cares. You'll never convince me that you have a clue... So I guess we're even.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:00:23 AM EDT
[#36]
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We need CEO's That way they can designate jobs that need to be done under him. Executive Secretary to remind him what needs to be done! FUCK NO. They are just figure heads. Most any worker that knows how the company works to produce product can do his job. Can he come out of the office and do production jobs. Dont think so. I can do his job, fly in, have the underlings kiss my ass. Say good job then fly out. Meet with big stockholders on an island resort and tell them everything looks good. Fuck those guys!!!!!! Have you ever actually *been* a CEO? If not, then how can you possibly know what there is to the job? Tell us more about how easy the job is. And how easy replaceable CEO's are. When you're ready, I can explain all the things the CEO does that you don't see while passing him in the hall. Many CEOs don't have an ivy league education, either. So tell us what it is that makes them so special they sit in that chair. And by the way, don't envy the position too much; waking up at 3am to take a shit and feeling compelled to grab your phone and answer a few emails while sitting on the toilet isn't the easy, carefree life you've envisioned. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:03:19 AM EDT
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Some people just need to be miserable. One of the employees that quit got a $9,000 raise as part of the first phase, which means he has more coming. He only makes $41,000 so was just told he's getting a $29,000 raise so quits? Fuck that useless piece of ungrateful shit. Reminds me of when I was IBEW. Four or five coffee breaks a day, liquid lunches, didn't pay a penny for health insurance, unlimited paid sick days, unlimited overtime....and all the old guys did was complain they were getting fucked. "It ain't right what they're doing". Man did I get sick of hearing that. Day in and day out, "We're getting fucked" and "It ain't right what they're doing". The company started offering retirement packages. Two years pay and two years added to their pension for retirement eligible techs to leave (80% were retirement eligible). They all responded with a nonstop flurry of, "We're getting fucked". Then the company wanted to bring them all back as union-busters to break the union. They paid them $5,000 each with 20% pay raises to work on a week by week basis while they simultaneously collected their pensions (we also had 401k's along with pensions). Fuckers went from thug union guys to scabs in a heartbeat. You wanna know what they did all day? Cried, "We're getting fucked" and "It ain't right what they're doing", They even went so far as to complain to the union because we wouldn't let them go to drinking at lunch. Fuck that, I wouldn't let those "thugs turned scabs" do jack shit. They sabotaged everything they touched, I preferred letting them spend a loooong 8 hours sitting on their asses doing nothing. Well, that's what this CEO is seeing. He offered a guy a $29,000 raise and all that guy does in return is whine, "I'm getting fucked". Holy shit. I'm absolutely amazed that there are people that fucking worthless in the world. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:04:32 AM EDT
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Anyone who quit sounds like the same dumbasses at work I hear blabbing about trivial shit that should have no impact upon them. Why isn't Larry at his desk? Hey what time did Larry come in this morning? Just shut the fuck and worry about yourselves. The CEO was making life better for everyone, but instead of looking at how it improved their well being, lets bitch about it because some dumb broad with a "I need to talk to a manager" haircut can't stfu and be content that things IMPROVED. Its never enough for some. So fuck them. This isn't socialism or economics at work, this is a guy making life better for his employees PERIOD. Get the political bullshit out of here. Actually no, it de-incentives productive behavior because you're going to get rewarded regardless. It's very bad for the company. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:04:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Give me his job right now. Appoint me to be in charge. I will listen to my people under me, slap them on the back say good job. Head back to the head quarters and blow smoke up other peoples ass. THEY dont do shit! Figure heads and hand shakers. Just like YOUR politicians are. They dont deserve. 500 or 1000 percent more than the workers. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:07:52 AM EDT
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Serioisly, give you his job. Lol, Dude you probably couldn't even read a balance sheet and you think you could run a company? Fuck, half the Controllers I've met can't read a damn balance sheet. I mean really read it, as in "divine from the tea leaves" read it. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:10:29 AM EDT
[#41]
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Anyone who quit sounds like the same dumbasses at work I hear blabbing about trivial shit that should have no impact upon them. Why isn't Larry at his desk? Hey what time did Larry come in this morning? Just shut the fuck and worry about yourselves. The CEO was making life better for everyone, but instead of looking at how it improved their well being, lets bitch about it because some dumb broad with a "I need to talk to a manager" haircut can't stfu and be content that things IMPROVED. Its never enough for some. So fuck them. This isn't socialism or economics at work, this is a guy making life better for his employees PERIOD. Get the political bullshit out of here. actually this is quite a good case study on economics. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:30:03 AM EDT
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? Being responsible. The CEO has several layers under him to get the job done. If the company goes tits up, he leaves and is appointed to another job. He is cushioned from the fuck up. How many CEO's have lost their life savings because of their fuck ups? Thousands of people worked their whole lives believing in THEIR company. Next thing you know, everything is gone. FUCK the CEO's and everyone else that takes the advantage of loyal workers that go to work everyday. You will NEVER convince me that CEO deserves the money they get. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Give me his job right now. Appoint me to be in charge. I will listen to my people under me, slap them on the back say good job. Head back to the head quarters and blow smoke up other peoples ass. THEY dont do shit! Figure heads and hand shakers. Just like YOUR politicians are. They dont deserve. 500 or 1000 percent more than the workers. Just curious, what is the largest number of employees you've been responsible for and what percentage of the company was that? Being responsible. The CEO has several layers under him to get the job done. If the company goes tits up, he leaves and is appointed to another job. He is cushioned from the fuck up. How many CEO's have lost their life savings because of their fuck ups? Thousands of people worked their whole lives believing in THEIR company. Next thing you know, everything is gone. FUCK the CEO's and everyone else that takes the advantage of loyal workers that go to work everyday. You will NEVER convince me that CEO deserves the money they get. So.......... Back to the number of employees.... |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:35:02 AM EDT
[#43]
Isn't this what they want. Equality in compensation but not workload?
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:39:24 AM EDT
[#44]
Ha! proof that socialism doesn't work, proof that spreading the wealth around doesn't work, and proof that lazy people are going to be lazy. Hope his company goes tits up.
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:41:56 AM EDT
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Anyone who quit sounds like the same dumbasses at work I hear blabbing about trivial shit that should have no impact upon them. Why isn't Larry at his desk? Hey what time did Larry come in this morning? Just shut the fuck and worry about yourselves. The CEO was making life better for everyone, but instead of looking at how it improved their well being, lets bitch about it because some dumb broad with a "I need to talk to a manager" haircut can't stfu and be content that things IMPROVED. Its never enough for some. So fuck them. This isn't socialism or economics at work, this is a guy making life better for his employees PERIOD. Get the political bullshit out of here. Yeah, 'cause fuck meritocracy.  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:44:42 AM EDT
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? Being responsible. The CEO has several layers under him to get the job done. If the company goes tits up, he leaves and is appointed to another job. He is cushioned from the fuck up. How many CEO's have lost their life savings because of their fuck ups? Thousands of people worked their whole lives believing in THEIR company. Next thing you know, everything is gone. FUCK the CEO's and everyone else that takes the advantage of loyal workers that go to work everyday. You will NEVER convince me that CEO deserves the money they get. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Give me his job right now. Appoint me to be in charge. I will listen to my people under me, slap them on the back say good job. Head back to the head quarters and blow smoke up other peoples ass. THEY dont do shit! Figure heads and hand shakers. Just like YOUR politicians are. They dont deserve. 500 or 1000 percent more than the workers. Just curious, what is the largest number of employees you've been responsible for and what percentage of the company was that? Being responsible. The CEO has several layers under him to get the job done. If the company goes tits up, he leaves and is appointed to another job. He is cushioned from the fuck up. How many CEO's have lost their life savings because of their fuck ups? Thousands of people worked their whole lives believing in THEIR company. Next thing you know, everything is gone. FUCK the CEO's and everyone else that takes the advantage of loyal workers that go to work everyday. You will NEVER convince me that CEO deserves the money they get. Did you ever spend any time with a CEO? Ever see the 80 hours weeks and the constant decisions and responsibilities? The pressure is enormous. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:49:08 AM EDT
[#47]
Equality, for all! |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:51:49 AM EDT
[#48]
I've said it all along. If you raise minimum wage to $15/hour or whatever, what about the people who already made $15/hour. They instantly get lumped in with people who made $6/hour less than they did and haven't worked to get there.
Lots of pissed off people. It never ends. |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:54:26 AM EDT
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Unicorn farts and rainbow dust.
Liberals should push for $70K to be the new minimum wage for EVERYONE! |
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Posted: 8/1/2015 9:55:04 AM EDT
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part of the problem is you agree to do a job for set pay. then they keep adding stuff for you to do. Some days I do 5-6 peoples job but I get paid less than just about all of them. People that brown nose and continuously screw the company by not doing shit seem to get the rewards of more pay, and sitting on their ass doing nothing or very little. Then when it comes time for a raise,, they make all kinds of excuses after they tell you what a great job you are doing. It gets real old when its the same story every year. So keeping my out for a better opportunity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do the job you agreed to do for the price you agreed. It doesn't matter what the next guy is making. part of the problem is you agree to do a job for set pay. then they keep adding stuff for you to do. Some days I do 5-6 peoples job but I get paid less than just about all of them. People that brown nose and continuously screw the company by not doing shit seem to get the rewards of more pay, and sitting on their ass doing nothing or very little. Then when it comes time for a raise,, they make all kinds of excuses after they tell you what a great job you are doing. It gets real old when its the same story every year. So keeping my out for a better opportunity. Always keep an out for a better opportunity but no matter where the boss is always an asshole, you'll never get paid enough, and you'll always have more work than you can handle. We all have been there or are there, it sucks. But it is what it is. Not worth being upset over all day every day like some people. |
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