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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:18:49 PM EDT
We like to make fun of each others brand preferences and talk shit, but it's a good thing people are watching these assholes.
Ford apparently decided to only put steel reinforcement( wheel blockers) in its super crews for 2015, the regular cab and super cab just received a marginal safety rating from the IIHS. IIHS Crash testing only typically gets done on the highest volume seller in this case it was the screw. Now that they've been caught they will add the wheel blockers for all models stating next year, and they won't be doing any recalls for 2015 regular and supercabs. http://www.autonews.com/article/20150729/OEM11/150729843?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1 |
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Because this has never happened before? This was a problem for them ten years ago on the f150 model.
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I'd buy/drive an F-150, pavement princess and all
A lot of new technologies sometimes get a bad rap for reasons that range from legitimate concerns to hokey (plastic glock frames comes to mind) BUT. My god. If it folds up like an accordion in crash tests, with support not in every model, count me out ETA: http://www.autonews.com/article/20150729/OEM11/150729843?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1 |
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They keep charging more and more and the quality goes down and down.
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They keep charging more and more and the quality goes down and down. View Quote I hate everything about the U.S. automotive market, especially trucks. I don't care if it can haul or tow some outrageous weight. For the prices they charge today they should put a diesel in everything and warranty that shit for a half million miles. Then I might be interested. |
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Does it have the pop-a-top option, and is there a 10c deposit?
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At what speed was the test conducted? How do Chevy and dodge compare? With the screw being the top dog in safety apparently, is it real that big of a deal if something is not as safe as it? How do the last generations of trucks do in this test? It seems like the super crew is just incredibly safe from a forward collision. Making a truck that isn't that safe seem dangerous. It's also a 100% guarantee that this was made out to be a much bigger problem than it is. I'd like to know what everybody crying about safety in this thread drives, and whether or not it has "wheel protectors"
But then again why didn't ford just use the same "protectors" on the other models? I find it funny how today a crew cab 4x4 is the most common model, where as in the 70's it was the rarest model by far. Ok, maybe the 4x4 f350 models are rarer, but they are close. |
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Checked for taco and ram. They still haven't been tested for front collision.
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FWIW: The four-door Super Crew version of the 2015 F-150 got top ratings in all five of the crash tests performed by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. For now, it is the only full-size truck on the market with the institute’s “Top Safety Pick” rating. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ I guess I'll take my chances. |
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"Be not the first by whom the new are tried, nor yet the last to lay the old aside."
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FWIW: http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ . I guess I'll take my chances. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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65k death trap FWIW: The four-door Super Crew version of the 2015 F-150 got top ratings in all five of the crash tests performed by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. For now, it is the only full-size truck on the market with the institute’s “Top Safety Pick” rating. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ . I guess I'll take my chances. Full size trucks definitely aren't as safe as people feel in them. Fairly high death rates actually in a lot of cases |
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Quoted: FWIW: http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ I guess I'll take my chances. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: 65k death trap FWIW: The four-door Super Crew version of the 2015 F-150 got top ratings in all five of the crash tests performed by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. For now, it is the only full-size truck on the market with the institute’s "Top Safety Pick” rating. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ I guess I'll take my chances. |
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Full size trucks definitely aren't as safe as people feel in them. Fairly high death rates actually in a lot of cases View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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65k death trap FWIW: The four-door Super Crew version of the 2015 F-150 got top ratings in all five of the crash tests performed by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. For now, it is the only full-size truck on the market with the institute’s “Top Safety Pick” rating. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ . I guess I'll take my chances. Full size trucks definitely aren't as safe as people feel in them. Fairly high death rates actually in a lot of cases I guess that's tangential to the point but I'm curious to know your source anyway. I'm looking at IIHS data and it does not show this. For 2013, deaths per million registered vehicles 1 to 3 years old: Cars -> 58 DPM Trucks -> 52 DPM SUVs -> 26 DPM That's a fairly solid statistic since it measure the performance of late model vehicles. |
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Y'all understand that its not a unibody, right. Thin steel would fold just like aluminum. This would ne a problem even with traditional steel.
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Only the super crew, the one Ford knew was going to be tested. Pretty sad that they omitted two $58 pieces of steel for the people not buying the super crew. Did you read that without those steel tubes the floor comes in 13 inches and your head ends up on the dashboard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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65k death trap FWIW: The four-door Super Crew version of the 2015 F-150 got top ratings in all five of the crash tests performed by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. For now, it is the only full-size truck on the market with the institute’s "Top Safety Pick” rating. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ I guess I'll take my chances. I'm aware. It's in the text I quoted. I wouldn't get a regular or a super cab until they fix it. |
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Why don't you ask the EPA why this is happening? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They keep charging more and more and the quality goes down and down. UAW labor doesn't pay for itself comrade Why don't you ask the EPA why this is happening? How about i blame both of them, and i think both of them should be sent out to sea and then the boat sunk. |
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The CrewCab models have the highest safety rating and it stomps Chevy and Dodge.
For what ever reason Ford didn't put the wheel deflectors on the SuperCab models. The super cab is probably harder to strengthen as well with the suicide doors. |
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They all are. Trucks are the new dick measuring device and have forgotten their place. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Overpriced POS. They all are. Trucks are the new dick measuring device and have forgotten their place. The world doesn't need to see the latest truck but the "old" version of a MAN makes all this garbage fall by the wayside... |
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This is the small off set crash test that has everyone but Volvo scrambling to overcome. A lot of vehicles failed to this fairly new test.
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That is how energy is dissipated, bruh. If the structure did not give way, the same kinetic energy would be causing trauma to your body. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My god. If it folds up like an accordion in crash tests, with support not in every model, count me out If the structure did not give way, the same kinetic energy would be causing trauma to your body. I came to post this. |
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The small-overlap front crash test has proved particularly vexing to automakers since it was introduced in 2012. The test crashes a front corner of the vehicle against a stationary barrier at 40 mph, simulating the vehicle striking an object such as a tree. Many automakers have had difficulty passing the test. The two diverging 2015 F-150 crash test results show why. Not really a fair criticism by OP. |
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Quoted: Only the super crew, the one Ford knew was going to be tested. Pretty sad that they omitted two $58 pieces of steel for the people not buying the super crew. Did you read that without those steel tubes the floor comes in 13 inches and your head ends up on the dashboard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 65k death trap FWIW: The four-door Super Crew version of the 2015 F-150 got top ratings in all five of the crash tests performed by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. For now, it is the only full-size truck on the market with the institute’s "Top Safety Pick” rating. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/07/29/crash-tests/30855977/ I guess I'll take my chances. If that was true they would simply add the steel bars. Article says they are looking into separate measures for each frame. Article was updated. |
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Quoted: The small-overlap front crash test has proved particularly vexing to automakers since it was introduced in 2012. The test crashes a front corner of the vehicle against a stationary barrier at 40 mph, simulating the vehicle striking an object such as a tree. Many automakers have had difficulty passing the test. The two diverging 2015 F-150 crash test results show why. View Quote Not really a fair criticism by OP. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2015/07/29/mixed-crash-test-results-versions-ford/30854467/ IIHS ran crash tests at 10 mph with the 2015 F-150 crew cab and the 2014 steel version. The group crashed the front left corner of the aluminum pickup into the right rear corner of the steel pickup at a 15 percent overlap, and then flipped the test and ran the steel pickup into the back of the aluminum one. In both scenarios, the aluminum F-150 had more extensive damage than the steel model. Total repair costs for the front and rear damage combined were 26 percent higher for the aluminum F-150. "Extra time to repair the aluminum body accounted for the higher price to fix frontal damage, while higher parts costs pushed up the repair bill for the rear damage,” IIHS said. "From a simple bolt-on parts replacement to a more-involved removal and installation of entire body panels, fixing the aluminum F-150 is more expensive than repairing a steel-body F-150,” Zuby says. |
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Y'all understand that its not a unibody, right. Thin steel would fold just like aluminum. This would ne a problem even with traditional steel. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote No it wouldn't! This new truck is a soda can death trap, instead of a traditional soup can death trap! HERPY DERP DERP! |
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Quoted: I'd buy/drive an F-150, pavement princess and all A lot of new technologies sometimes get a bad rap for reasons that range from legitimate concerns to hokey (plastic glock frames comes to mind) BUT. My god. If it folds up like an accordion in crash tests, with support not in every model, count me out ETA: http://www.autonews.com/article/20150729/OEM11/150729843?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1 http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CA/20150729/OEM11/150729843/AR/0/1.jpg&cci_ts=20150729212334 View Quote Go look one up if you're not familiar. I say this because I am fine with the results of your pic. My goal in to not wreck. No matter what I drive. |
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