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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:15:16 AM EDT
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It's all fun and games until someone throws down a prayer rug....
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:28:28 AM EDT
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Is it that hard to just not pray?
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:30:38 AM EDT
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Students can sue their own school now? Man this society is so litigious.
Can't wait to see that schools enrollment papers next year with arbitration and anti-lawsuit statements in it somewhere. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:31:22 AM EDT
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:32:09 AM EDT
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22 is a "high achiever"?
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:35:58 AM EDT
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One of these days a lot of people and angles of the devil himself will be happy when we are at the point in time people in southern France were telling Rick Burgess a couple of weeks ago, "Church, all the churches here are museums. I remember my grandparents talking about going to church but now days no one has the thought of church things." To those who don't know Rick, he is half of the Rick and Bubba show broadcast on tv and radio nation wide. I feel so sad for my grans and the country they will grow up in. THE ONLY HOPE IS GOD WILL PREVAIL AT THE END
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:51:48 AM EDT
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I am confident this thread will be full of reasoned discourse on both sides of the argument. It will cover much new ground and many minds will be changed.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:52:00 AM EDT
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22 is a "high achiever"?
What was your ACT score? |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:58:42 AM EDT
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22 is a "high achiever"?
Well...it is Mississippi. 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:02:42 AM EDT
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Good.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:09:29 AM EDT
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And some rich Christian will just come up with $10k and pay it to
Keep the prayer in every year. Better yet they will just establish a go fundme to pay for it. I would donate just so we can tell the judge to fuck off |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:13:08 AM EDT
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How much has the House of Representatives been fined for opening with a prayer since like 1789?
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:21:11 AM EDT
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And some rich Christian will just come up with $10k and pay it toKeep the prayer in every year. Better yet they will just establish a go fundme to pay for it. I would donate just so we can tell the judge to fuck off I guess they'll have to get more creative like firing people. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:25:51 AM EDT
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Rankin County is chock full of derp.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:33:39 AM EDT
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22 is a "high achiever"?
embarrassing. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:37:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: Never ever piss off a judge. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/28/mississippi-school-district-fined-7500-for-opening-assembly-with-prayer/ Allowing a school assembly honoring high-achievers to open with a prayer made one Mississippi school district $7,500 poorer - and a student who sued $2,500 richer. The Rankin, Miss., public school district was hit with the fine after U.S. District Judge Carlton Reeves said it defied his prior order barring prayers school events. According to the judge, the prayer violated a 2013 court settlement that ordered the district to stop "proselytizing Christianity." The alleged violation, which came at an assembly last year for students who scored above 22 on their ACT college admissions test, prompted the judge to apply fines for that and another incident, in which Gideons International was permitted to hand out Bibles to elementary school students. "The district's breach did not take very long and it occurred in a very bold way," Reeves wrote in his judgment. "Its conduct displays that the district did not make any effort to adhere to the agreed judgment." Reeves also ordered the district to pay the student's legal fees, an amount that will be determined at a later date, and threatened a $10,000 fine for any future infractions of the order. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:41:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much has the House of Representatives been fined for opening with a prayer since like 1789? We are a mostly Christian Nation Not a Muslim nation, not a gay or tranny nation(not yet) Just look at what the current anti Christian government has got us. Maybe they can start firing teachers because the believe in God and have Confederate flags. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:44:49 AM EDT
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violating settlement agreements usually have consequences....
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:59:46 AM EDT
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Judges can be impeached. Too bad Conservatives are not better organized.
Liberals are much better organized. That is how we end up with nonsense like this. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:00:02 AM EDT
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Rankin Co = Jackson East
Obamas kids and trailer trash, not shocked. There's a lot of the "Black Muslims" around here, and their numbers seem to be growing. They stand on the corner on Friday and Saturday and hand out Farrakahn pamphlets.  Wonder if it was one of them?
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:44:01 AM EDT
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? I agree with this gentleman. I am not a believer but I will never be offended by someone who is no matter what the circumstances happen to be. I see their right to pray as equal to my right not to. Special snowflake syndrome is a sign of insanity and should be treated as such. I was in school when prayer was outlawed. The whole damn Country has been on a down hill run since then. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:55:44 AM EDT
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:29:19 PM EDT
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It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. Are you going to sue if I pray at a school with a group of willing participants? 
If you don't want to pray, dont. If you feel like that entitles you to a payday... wow, you're a special snowflake. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:31:59 PM EDT
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If you don't want to pray, dont. If you feel like that entitles you to a payday... wow, you're a special snowflake. I agree, and I think a lot of people are failing to read the entire first amendment. I'm not religious, and it doesn't bother me to sit quietly through a group prayer. I've done it many times. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:33:19 PM EDT
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Are you going to sue if I pray at a school with a group of willing participants?
If you don't want to pray, dont. If you feel like that entitles you to a payday... wow, you're a special snowflake. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. Are you going to sue if I pray at a school with a group of willing participants?
If you don't want to pray, dont. If you feel like that entitles you to a payday... wow, you're a special snowflake. Are the students required to attend the assembly? If they are it has no place in a public school. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:35:43 PM EDT
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Be a shame if that kid received purple nurples every day until he's expelled.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:36:42 PM EDT
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Are the students required to attend the assembly? If they are it has no place in a public school. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. Are you going to sue if I pray at a school with a group of willing participants?
If you don't want to pray, dont. If you feel like that entitles you to a payday... wow, you're a special snowflake. Are the students required to attend the assembly? If they are it has no place in a public school. No one is forcing you to pray. This isn't fucking China. If you don't want to, don't. Sit quietly for the 20 seconds it takes and let's hope it doesn't traumatize you for life. ETA: I didnt want to sit through all the Black History Assembly bullshit when I was in school, does that mean I should sue to get my time back? Come the fuck on. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:41:35 PM EDT
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It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. The free exercise of religion in the constitution does not mean that we have to leave our Christianity inside the confines of the church building or our homes. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:41:40 PM EDT
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer?
Keep religion out of schools |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:43:17 PM EDT
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No one is forcing you to pray. This isn't fucking China. If you don't want to, don't. Sit quietly for the 20 seconds it takes and let's hope it doesn't traumatize you for life. Why the fuck should I sit quietly? Is it just Christianity? That's bullshit. Kids go to school to learn anyway not to pray. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:43:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one is forcing you to pray. This isn't fucking China. If you don't want to, don't. Sit quietly for the 20 seconds it takes and let's hope it doesn't traumatize you for life. ETA: I didnt want to sit through all the Black History Assembly bullshit when I was in school, does that mean I should sue to get my time back? Come the fuck on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. Are you going to sue if I pray at a school with a group of willing participants? If you don't want to pray, dont. If you feel like that entitles you to a payday... wow, you're a special snowflake. Are the students required to attend the assembly? If they are it has no place in a public school. No one is forcing you to pray. This isn't fucking China. If you don't want to, don't. Sit quietly for the 20 seconds it takes and let's hope it doesn't traumatize you for life. ETA: I didnt want to sit through all the Black History Assembly bullshit when I was in school, does that mean I should sue to get my time back? Come the fuck on. Why is it I don't think GD would feel the same way if someone opened a school assembly with a prayer to Allah and Muhammad? Then it would be all pitchforks and butthurt instead of "just sit thru it" |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:44:28 PM EDT
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The free exercise of religion in the constitution does not mean that we have to leave our Christianity inside the confines of the church building or our homes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. The free exercise of religion in the constitution does not mean that we have to leave our Christianity inside the confines of the church building or our homes. Of course. So its safe to assume that this school is supporting other religions in this assembly? |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:45:29 PM EDT
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools I've sat through such plenty of times. I didn't explode. My hair didn't catch on fire and no one died. Out of politeness, which I think is becoming a foreign concept in American culture, I sat through the prayers prayed by people of other religions even if I thought their prayers were to a god that doesn't exist. Does no harm to me, and there's no downside to exercising some common decency towards others. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:45:50 PM EDT
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The free exercise of religion in the constitution does not mean that we have to leave our Christianity inside the confines of the church building or our homes. The judge doesn't see it that way. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:47:03 PM EDT
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I've sat through such plenty of times. I didn't explode. My hair didn't catch on fire and no one died. Out of politeness, which I think is becoming a foreign concept in American culture, I sat through the prayers prayed by people of other religions even if I thought their prayers were to a god that doesn't exist. Does no harm to me, and there's no downside to exercising some common decency towards others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools I've sat through such plenty of times. I didn't explode. My hair didn't catch on fire and no one died. Out of politeness, which I think is becoming a foreign concept in American culture, I sat through the prayers prayed by people of other religions even if I thought their prayers were to a god that doesn't exist. Does no harm to me, and there's no downside to exercising some common decency towards others. You sat through such in a public school? But good on you for not being a prick to people of other religions |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:47:59 PM EDT
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My kids school opens all events with the pledge of allegiance and a small prayer.
Public school.... In the heart of Georgia. Dems a liberals can fuck off.... |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:48:16 PM EDT
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This We are a mostly Christian Nation Not a Muslim nation, not a gay or tranny nation(not yet) Just look at what the current anti Christian government has got us. Maybe they can start firing teachers because the believe in God and have Confederate flags. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How much has the House of Representatives been fined for opening with a prayer since like 1789? We are a mostly Christian Nation Not a Muslim nation, not a gay or tranny nation(not yet) Just look at what the current anti Christian government has got us. Maybe they can start firing teachers because the believe in God and have Confederate flags. I am sure the left and .fed are working on that right now. 
Get ready. There will be an army of posters in this thread that will rant and rave just like a 2 year old to tell you how this is not a Christian nation. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:50:52 PM EDT
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"There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death." Proverbs 14:12
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:50:55 PM EDT
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools Why - do their prayers hurt you more? |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:51:43 PM EDT
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Of course. So its safe to assume that this school is supporting other religions in this assembly? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it that hard not to participate? It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. The free exercise of religion in the constitution does not mean that we have to leave our Christianity inside the confines of the church building or our homes. Of course. So its safe to assume that this school is supporting other religions in this assembly? Let's reference the article. The Article said: The assembly at Brandon High School in May 2014 began with a prayer led by local Methodist pastor Rev. Rob Gill. Although not mandatory, the assembly honored the district's students who scored higher than a 22 on their ACT college tests I think the phrase in bold is kind of important. It was not a mandatory assembly. The anti-religionists claim that all they want is for the schools to not make Christian prayers a sort of requirement or part of a required activity. That would be well and good if that's all they really wanted, but it's increasingly clear to me that anti-religionists will not be happy until every public mention of anything religious is stamped out. I'm going to guess that I'm not the only one who has noticed this. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:52:34 PM EDT
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools Why - do their prayers hurt you more? Nope. I don't care at all who people pray to or what they pray about. But I'm sure if they led a muslim prayer in school. People would not be saying "just sit there and not participate" |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:52:42 PM EDT
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The free exercise of religion in the constitution does not mean that we have to leave our Christianity inside the confines of the church building or our homes. The judge doesn't see it that way. The judge is a fucking moron who should be disbarred and publicly shamed. And whoever taught him constitutional law in law school should also be disbarred and publicly shamed. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:53:53 PM EDT
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools Than repeal the laws that make it mandatory for a child to attend. Better yet disband "free public" school systems and allow the market to decide. At least then parents have a choice and can use thier money to decide where to send their children. That way no one will be forced to attend any school that may hurt thier feelings. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:54:51 PM EDT
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Why is it I don't think GD would feel the same way if someone opened a school assembly with a prayer to Allah and Muhammad? Then it would be all pitchforks and butthurt instead of "just sit thru it" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a school, you go there to receive an education. Churches or homes are for praying. Are you going to sue if I pray at a school with a group of willing participants?
If you don't want to pray, dont. If you feel like that entitles you to a payday... wow, you're a special snowflake. Are the students required to attend the assembly? If they are it has no place in a public school. No one is forcing you to pray. This isn't fucking China. If you don't want to, don't. Sit quietly for the 20 seconds it takes and let's hope it doesn't traumatize you for life. ETA: I didnt want to sit through all the Black History Assembly bullshit when I was in school, does that mean I should sue to get my time back? Come the fuck on. Why is it I don't think GD would feel the same way if someone opened a school assembly with a prayer to Allah and Muhammad? Then it would be all pitchforks and butthurt instead of "just sit thru it" If it's a Muslim school, you chose to be there. What folks fail to realize is Christians make up the majority of religious people in this country, and the country was founded by Christian men, not Muslim or anything else, they said so themselves. Especially in this area(story is local to me), even the blacks and Latinos are Christians here and have their own churches. Don't bring your retarded ass to the "Bible Belt" then get offended and sue when a group prays. No one forced this special snowflake to participate, if you are that offended, just walk out. This reeks of that liberal pussy who called the cops and was "shaking violently" at the sight of a flea market vendor selling Confed and Nazi memorabilia. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:56:20 PM EDT
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools I've sat through such plenty of times. I didn't explode. My hair didn't catch on fire and no one died. Out of politeness, which I think is becoming a foreign concept in American culture, I sat through the prayers prayed by people of other religions even if I thought their prayers were to a god that doesn't exist. Does no harm to me, and there's no downside to exercising some common decency towards others. You sat through such in a public school? But good on you for not being a prick to people of other religions It was not a mandatory assembly. How about that. IIRC, the prayer was offered by some kind of Universalist type who more or less believed in everything. Not being a prick is a minimal level of behavior I expect from everyone who is not brain damaged. It is fucking ridiculous that the idea that I sat through such without being a prick is especially polite. I consider that to be part of the minimum standard of social decency. My dumbass cat could achieve that level of decency. It doesn't say much about our society when normal behavior becomes noteworthy. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it that hard not to participate? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it that hard to just not pray? Is it that hard not to participate? Is that hard to save your religion until it's on your own time or among fellow believers? We can play retard table tennis all day - school is for education, church is for religion. Why must Christians demand your time is devoted to their beliefs? I don't do that, I don't expect a portion of school to be devoted to dismantling the Christian belief system. Use the appropriate venue, and everyone can get along. It's mutual respect. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:58:07 PM EDT
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Nope. I don't care at all who people pray to or what they pray about. But I'm sure if they led a muslim prayer in school. People would not be saying "just sit there and not participate" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools Why - do their prayers hurt you more? Nope. I don't care at all who people pray to or what they pray about. But I'm sure if they led a muslim prayer in school. People would not be saying "just sit there and not participate" Oh so you are making an assumption to prove others are not as tolerant as you. Ok, carry on then. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 1:00:56 PM EDT
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Oh so you are making an assumption to prove others are not as tolerant as you. Ok, carry on then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But what if the prayer was a jewish prayer? Or a muslim prayer? Keep religion out of schools Why - do their prayers hurt you more? Nope. I don't care at all who people pray to or what they pray about. But I'm sure if they led a muslim prayer in school. People would not be saying "just sit there and not participate" Oh so you are making an assumption to prove others are not as tolerant as you. Ok, carry on then. oh it's not an assumption. When people say fuck islam and fuck muslims. That shows all of us that they hate islam and muslims. How many times have you seen "religion of piece" posted? It is just funny to me that people say it's ok to pray in school and it happens to be a christain prayer. If everyone would be fine with a muslim prayer as well, then I am 100% wrong and I'm sorry. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 1:04:09 PM EDT
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And some rich Christian will just come up with $10k and pay it toKeep the prayer in every year. Better yet they will just establish a go fundme to pay for it. I would donate just so we can tell the judge to fuck off Just waht I was thinking..... I'm in. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 1:05:51 PM EDT
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Stupids gonna stupid.
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