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Posted: 7/28/2015 5:30:47 AM EDT
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looked like nasty wind--check out the trees at the beginning---its gotta come down one way or the other. I would say he nailed it for what he had to work with.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 5:36:44 AM EDT
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A general rule of thumb is that if you weren't there and nothing is bent and no one is injured then you STFU with your critiques.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 5:45:55 AM EDT
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I'd like to know the line number, see if I put the wings on that one or not
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:17:04 AM EDT
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I'd like to know the line number, see if I put the wings on that one or not this help? the video has this reg in the title. 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:21:13 AM EDT
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If I knew it was going to land safely, I'd go for that ride
Otherwise, that would seriously cause my butt hole to pucker up tight 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:25:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNOPE NOPE NOPE |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:25:56 AM EDT
[#7]
Lift the flaps, she'll land.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:46:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDid that pilot confuse V1 with V2? |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 6:59:26 AM EDT
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He should have caught the wire
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Posted: 7/28/2015 7:32:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat looked like the wings were trying to decide which one was going to quit flying first. 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 7:41:51 AM EDT
[#11]
AMS can have some very shitty weather for flying. That landing was crazy.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 8:02:45 AM EDT
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Landed dead sideways before in a much smaller plane
It happens. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 8:14:41 AM EDT
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El Paso makes that look like amature hour. I have been on more than one aborted landing in a 737 there.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 9:15:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Down is easy.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dude, go around... He may have already. No telling how much fuel the guy has. Gotta come down eventually. Down is easy. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 6:21:21 AM EDT
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I'd like to know the line number, see if I put the wings on that one or not this help? the video has this reg in the title. http://www.njrod.com/images/hf/ph-BVB.jpg I started doing the join on 1007 so that wasn't me, but anything from then on more than likely I ran the join that day. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:00:06 AM EDT
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75mph wind or cross wind? Hard to believe they could not pick a different runway to drop that 75mph crosswind a little. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the KLM had a 75 mph cross wind, what is the limit for a passenger plane? Fuck that, I would have been puking. 75mph wind or cross wind? Hard to believe they could not pick a different runway to drop that 75mph crosswind a little. When I saw it on the news they said 75 mph crosswind. But the news does get shit wrong. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:28:53 AM EDT
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I don't understand all the people, complimenting his skill. He shouldn't have been in that position. And I have my commercial, Multi, instrument, and sea ratings, not a cub pilot Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude, go around... I don't understand all the people, complimenting his skill. He shouldn't have been in that position. And I have my commercial, Multi, instrument, and sea ratings, not a cub pilot What would you have done different, considering there may not be a runway where your crosswind is now a headwind? In looking at the airport layout, you would have had a crosswind. And, being a pilot, you know that winds change. Especially during a summer storm. 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:49:20 AM EDT
[#18]
Damn.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 4:55:36 AM EDT
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Why you can't just put a fighter pilot at the controls of a heavy, no one teaches them to line up with the runway first.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 5:02:07 AM EDT
[#20]
Looks similar to a Saturday night pulling into my driveway.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 5:08:43 AM EDT
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<oops replied to wrong thread, N/M>
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Posted: 7/30/2015 5:20:49 AM EDT
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Another hotdog that just needs to go around.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 6:46:01 AM EDT
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Google reveals the demonstrated crosswind component for <most> 777s is 40kts! Damn. Higher than I would have guessed.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 6:56:18 AM EDT
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My first wife was tarded.....she's a pilot now.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:27:33 AM EDT
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I forgot what I voted for in the poll.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:29:04 AM EDT
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It was the worst summer storm since 1901 so needless to say it caused some problems with airtravel.
Dont know anything about piloting but as far as the reports go it was difficult but generally withing the safety margins |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:38:41 AM EDT
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That's like every landing in Denver. Or below 500' in the summer on 12R in San Antonio.
People don't realize how much wind it takes to make a 600,000 lb. plane move around like that.
Great job by the pilot. Oh, and thanks to Boeing for building an airplane you can still "fly". Hate to see what an Airbus was like that day.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:43:39 AM EDT
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I don't understand all the people, complimenting his skill. He shouldn't have been in that position. And I have my commercial, Multi, instrument, and sea ratings, not a cub pilot Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude, go around... I don't understand all the people, complimenting his skill. He shouldn't have been in that position. And I have my commercial, Multi, instrument, and sea ratings, not a cub pilot Um, that wasn't horrible. His pitch really didn't change, he was just getting rolled around. There wasn't that much of a crosswind. Just gusty. It looked bad at the end because he (or she) dipped the right wing right before touchdown but it wasn't as much as it looked in the still video. Airline pilots have to go in a lot of conditions others would choose not to fly in. 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:49:37 AM EDT
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75mph wind or cross wind? Hard to believe they could not pick a different runway to drop that 75mph crosswind a little. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the KLM had a 75 mph cross wind, what is the limit for a passenger plane? Fuck that, I would have been puking. 75mph wind or cross wind? Hard to believe they could not pick a different runway to drop that 75mph crosswind a little. You can't land in a 75 kt. crosswind. The 75 kt figure is probably the max wind. My airline has a max wind of 50 kts. and the airplanes are generally limited to 30 kt crosswinds (max DEMONSTRATED by the test pilots). So, any wind over 50 kts closes the airport for our purposes. KLM may not have that limitation. When you have that kind of wind, you get so much mechanical turbulence (caused by hi wind stirred up by ground objects) that it's more than dicey. But, if you have to land, you declare an emergency and do what you have to do. Not saying this was an emergency but it's there if you need it. TC |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:51:35 AM EDT
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I thought the most impressive thing about this video was the control response the 777 has. It looked like a C172 trying to land, no something that can weigh 700,000lbs.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:53:10 AM EDT
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Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
Any landing where you can use the aircraft again is an excellent landing. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:54:14 AM EDT
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That airline pilot needs to be sent to Pensacola to begin his career with the USN. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:10:25 AM EDT
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https://johnnycat.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/f-14-tomcat-49.jpg That airline pilot needs to be sent to Pensacola to begin his career with the USN. Looks like he snagged the ace too. Too much Hornet DLC. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:25:03 AM EDT
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I know that wind would rarely knock a 777 out of the sky. It may never happen. I know that airplanes land successfully in way worse weather.
I have jumped out of airplanes multiple times. It's not my favorite thrill but its in the 7/10 category for scary I've been on all sorts of helicopters and all sorts of airplanes. I don't have a fear of heights nor am i claustrophobic. Bad Turbulence and shaking in airplanes still gets my heart rate up and makes me nervous as hell every single time. That would have scared the fuck out of me. Hell i freaked out when landing in atlanta and saw another airplane seemingly heading towards the same runway. we couldnt have been more than 500 meters from it. Heart almost exploded. If i was on an airplane that was doing this in the rain, i would probably have an anxiety attack. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:36:45 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or below 500' in the summer on 12R in San Antonio. People don't realize how much wind it takes to make a 600,000 lb. plane move around like that. Great job by the pilot. Oh, and thanks to Boeing for building an airplane you can still "fly". Hate to see what an Airbus was like that day. TC Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's like every landing in Denver. Or below 500' in the summer on 12R in San Antonio. People don't realize how much wind it takes to make a 600,000 lb. plane move around like that. Great job by the pilot. Oh, and thanks to Boeing for building an airplane you can still "fly". Hate to see what an Airbus was like that day. TC  |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:39:50 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryThat plane was not going fast enough to take off... ... it just kind of floated on up there
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Posted: 7/30/2015 10:51:20 AM EDT
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Looks similar to a Saturday night pulling into my driveway. Lol |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:04:36 AM EDT
[#38]
Had it much worse. Near ground contact, several aborts and then finally on the last attempt he got it to stick with near wing contact.
I would have bet money that day the wing was going to strike, I may or may not have required new underwear along with everyone else. All I could think about is how bad I didn't want to die on some Mexican runway. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:11:27 AM EDT
[#39]
When I watched that(private pilot) this was my reaction:
That crosswind really screwed him up man, I didn't think he was gonna make it back. 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:25:35 AM EDT
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El Paso makes that look like amature hour. I have been on more than one aborted landing in a 737 there. During the summer here landings can be pretty bad. I too have been in planes that had to go around several times. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:32:21 AM EDT
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You can't land in a 75 kt. crosswind. The 75 kt figure is probably the max wind. My airline has a max wind of 50 kts. and the airplanes are generally limited to 30 kt crosswinds (max DEMONSTRATED by the test pilots). So, any wind over 50 kts closes the airport for our purposes. KLM may not have that limitation. When you have that kind of wind, you get so much mechanical turbulence (caused by hi wind stirred up by ground objects) that it's more than dicey. But, if you have to land, you declare an emergency and do what you have to do. Not saying this was an emergency but it's there if you need it. TC Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the KLM had a 75 mph cross wind, what is the limit for a passenger plane? Fuck that, I would have been puking. 75mph wind or cross wind? Hard to believe they could not pick a different runway to drop that 75mph crosswind a little. You can't land in a 75 kt. crosswind. The 75 kt figure is probably the max wind. My airline has a max wind of 50 kts. and the airplanes are generally limited to 30 kt crosswinds (max DEMONSTRATED by the test pilots). So, any wind over 50 kts closes the airport for our purposes. KLM may not have that limitation. When you have that kind of wind, you get so much mechanical turbulence (caused by hi wind stirred up by ground objects) that it's more than dicey. But, if you have to land, you declare an emergency and do what you have to do. Not saying this was an emergency but it's there if you need it. TC thats what I was thinking. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:40:15 AM EDT
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Looks similar to a Saturday night pulling into my driveway. 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:42:34 AM EDT
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Looked fun to me
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:19:56 PM EDT
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Heard a good exchange the other day during a storm
ATC: Could you give me a PIREP (pilot report) on the wind shear Pilot: Uh negative on that PIREP, the cockpit was shaking too much for us to read the numbers This was after two go arounds. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:29:47 PM EDT
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Lots of landings like that in Albuquerque. I have been on several planes that do that after coming over the mountains. I was once on a plane where I could see the runway out of the right window because we were coming in so sideways. Pilot straightened out right before touch down. Not a pleasant landing. I hate landing in Albuquerque. Its always really windy at the airport.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:34:13 PM EDT
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Um, that wasn't horrible. His pitch really didn't change, he was just getting rolled around. There wasn't that much of a crosswind. Just gusty. It looked bad at the end because he (or she) dipped the right wing right before touchdown but it wasn't as much as it looked in the still video. Airline pilots have to go in a lot of conditions others would choose not to fly in.
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Dude, go around... I don't understand all the people, complimenting his skill. He shouldn't have been in that position. And I have my commercial, Multi, instrument, and sea ratings, not a cub pilot Um, that wasn't horrible. His pitch really didn't change, he was just getting rolled around. There wasn't that much of a crosswind. Just gusty. It looked bad at the end because he (or she) dipped the right wing right before touchdown but it wasn't as much as it looked in the still video. Airline pilots have to go in a lot of conditions others would choose not to fly in.
TC As stated before, this may not have been the first approach. Everyone walked away, the plane was not damaged......good landing, hell might have been the best landing possible given the conditions. But what do I know, I wasn't sitting left seat. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:51:31 PM EDT
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the KLM had a 75 mph cross wind, what is the limit for a passenger plane? Fuck that, I would have been puking. Those numbers might be a little exaggerated! Anything more than 25 or 30kt direct crosswind and you start getting into the "are you fucking crazy" category! |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:09:33 PM EDT
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A few years ago I was on the company shuttle, a Dornier 328. We were trying to beat an approaching T'storm as we were flying to a local field vs. a regular commercial airport. Back then the pilots could still leave the cockpit door open, and as a front row passenger, I could see right out.
A little buffeting and cross wind on the approach, but not bad. The pilot did a pretty decent job keeping the nose in line with the runway but there were several gusts that deflected us several degrees off of the center line. The wings stayed more or less level in the approach and yaw was taken care of with rudder. We get the call for minimums and as he starts to flare a pretty good gust comes from left to right and we had the EXACT same left to right role that 777 did. Right main gear touched down and he put a bunch of yoke into it to get the left main on the ground. It was enough to get my heart pounding pretty good seeing what the actual horizon looked like and how much control input it took to keep that right wingtip off the ground. After we arrived at the hanger, the co-pilot welcomed us home and opened the door. The pilot got up and turned and looked at us and was white as a sheet and let out a huge sigh, and said "That was interesting." |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:10:26 PM EDT
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As stated before, this may not have been the first approach. Everyone walked away, the plane was not damaged......good landing, hell might have been the best landing possible given the conditions. But what do I know, I wasn't sitting left seat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude, go around... I don't understand all the people, complimenting his skill. He shouldn't have been in that position. And I have my commercial, Multi, instrument, and sea ratings, not a cub pilot Um, that wasn't horrible. His pitch really didn't change, he was just getting rolled around. There wasn't that much of a crosswind. Just gusty. It looked bad at the end because he (or she) dipped the right wing right before touchdown but it wasn't as much as it looked in the still video. Airline pilots have to go in a lot of conditions others would choose not to fly in.
TC As stated before, this may not have been the first approach. Everyone walked away, the plane was not damaged......good landing, hell might have been the best landing possible given the conditions. But what do I know, I wasn't sitting left seat. Exactly. Lots of failed landings happen in "Severe Clear" conditions. SFO comes to mind a few years ago when that 777 landed short.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:22:14 PM EDT
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Damn. Did ATC tell him to expedite his departure from the sky? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pfft... nothing, check this 737 that had no flaps and had to land
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nio38kxye-I
Damn. Did ATC tell him to expedite his departure from the sky? Holy fucking ground effect. He timed the trust and nose up just perfectly to keep from being pile driven into the deck. Yikes. |
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