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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:00:56 PM EDT
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I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer. Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable. I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed That would all be consumed by foundation mitigation/repair depending on how bad it is. I agree with others, run from it fast. If you really must have this house, have them do warrantied foundation replacement as part of the closing (on their dime). That said, they wouldn't do that because the house would come down anyway. 
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:01:16 PM EDT
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Run. Screaming.
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:01:22 PM EDT
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Nope. You dont need an OVERPRICED engineer to tell you what GD just told you...
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:02:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:03:05 PM EDT
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This. Not worth the gamble. ETA Is this home in an area that has flooded in the past? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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buy a different house This. Not worth the gamble. ETA Is this home in an area that has flooded in the past? No but we do have the occasional earthquakes. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:03:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:03:32 PM EDT
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How old is the house? Where is the house (state)?
The tile has issues underneath. Is there a joint there? If so, they could have not used any paper under the mud and this will allow the separation to show. The location of each cracked area may matter too. Inner or outer walls. Load bearing or not. When I re-roofed my house, it created some cracks. They really didn't show until we had some snow though. The extra weight created some issues. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:04:58 PM EDT
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I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer. Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable. I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed Shit, man. Do you really want this house that bad? "This house will give you severe financial troubles" "It's alright! I've got an extra $50k I don't care about!" |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:05:39 PM EDT
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Your house was built on a pile of old stumps dumped into a hole and filled over...
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:05:49 PM EDT
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That would all be consumed by foundation mitigation/repair depending on how bad it is. I agree with others, run from it fast. If you really must have this house, have them do warrantied foundation replacement as part of the closing (on their dime). That said, they wouldn't do that because the house would come down anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer. Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable. I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed That would all be consumed by foundation mitigation/repair depending on how bad it is. I agree with others, run from it fast. If you really must have this house, have them do warrantied foundation replacement as part of the closing (on their dime). That said, they wouldn't do that because the house would come down anyway. OP, let me know what lender would agree to that. I've got a bridge I want to buy |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:06:12 PM EDT
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That looks like poor drywall work.The cracking tiles are probably from dropping things on them or not enough thin set. Or the floor is flexing. OP, what state or region is this home in? Earthquake country? Or was it used as an elephant sanctuary or something? This house has some definite issues, if you do not have good home inspector to tell you whether these cracks are indicative of simply a minor problem or a major issue, you might want to cut your losses on this one. There are always more houses to choose from. ETA saw where you said the house is on a slab. I would not buy a house on a slab ever again...did it once and it is my "no-go" for all future homes. But this house has has tile that is cracked that bad ON A CONCRETE SLAB?! That is crazy. I would not touch that house with a 10 ft pole. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:06:15 PM EDT
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not fixable without first demolishing the house... run Nah. It's fixable with lots and lots of piers, replacing all the floors affected because many will be internal, then re-drywalling and painting everything. But you're right about the "run" part. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:06:49 PM EDT
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on a slab, no foundation you can easily look at and area of earthquakes,
can you get out of it without a home inspection report? |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:07:38 PM EDT
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That looks like poor drywall work.The cracking tiles are probably from dropping things on them or not enough thin set. I don't know shit about building a house but it sure looks a lot worse than what you're suggesting. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:07:52 PM EDT
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That house is a movin |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:08:17 PM EDT
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if you decide to investigate this further, I would use a structural engineer, not a home inspector
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:08:38 PM EDT
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Find another house, one without $40k to $50k in risk. Really. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer. Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable. I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed Find another house, one without $40k to $50k in risk. Really. This. I am going out on a limb and say your inspector is going to say it foundation. As others have said you will be spending money worse than if you were hiring whores with kilos of coke in vegas on a yacht. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:08:45 PM EDT
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OP, let me know what lender would agree to that. I've got a bridge I want to buy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer. Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable. I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed That would all be consumed by foundation mitigation/repair depending on how bad it is. I agree with others, run from it fast. If you really must have this house, have them do warrantied foundation replacement as part of the closing (on their dime). That said, they wouldn't do that because the house would come down anyway. OP, let me know what lender would agree to that. I've got a bridge I want to buy Fresh out of bridges, but I have some swamp land that's real prime... 
/reread my first post, I failed to clearly deliver on the implied sarcasm. I'll strive to do better next time. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:08:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How old is the house? Where is the house (state)? The location of each cracked area may matter too. Inner or outer walls. Load bearing or not. How thick is the slab? How good of a deal? Approx. value in good condition? |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:09:10 PM EDT
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That house has foundation or slab issues
Run Forest RUN !! |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:09:52 PM EDT
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How old is the house? Where is the house (state)? The tile has issues underneath. Is there a joint there? If so, they could have not used any paper under the mud and this will allow the separation to show. The location of each cracked area may matter too. Inner or outer walls. Load bearing or not. When I re-roofed my house, it created some cracks. They really didn't show until we had some snow though. The extra weight created some issues. House was only built in 2004 |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:09:53 PM EDT
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The walls and what not look like settling and shitty drywallers...not that uncommon.
The biggest concern I saw was the cracked tile that is separating. Cracks happen, when they separate that is a way larger foundation issue. Houses can be raised and new foundations poured but the costs are insane. I'd pass. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:09:56 PM EDT
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I love all the comments about ejecting. No comments about price.
Buy a ~$250k house for ~$100k? I'll take 100 of those houses with cracks like those. Call the most expensive place you can find, and qet a quote/proposal on foundation repairs. For example, if they ask whether you want either 5 or 8 helical piers, tell them to give you a quote for 10. Then toss that written proposal into the deal. After you buy the house you can get it done cheaper. Never, ever, say no to a house deal. Make it worth your while, and then let the seller say no. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:10:41 PM EDT
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We had United Dynamics(foundation repair co.) come in and fix our office here at work. I got to talking to the project manager about residential foundation repair as my house may need a little nip and tuck.
He said a typical residential job costs about $6,000.00. You could use that in your negotiations OP. EDIT: United Dynamics runs anchors down to bed rock and jacks the foundation back up to where it's supposed to be. Pretty slick really. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:12:23 PM EDT
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Plaster, paint, flip it.
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:12:37 PM EDT
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Built in 2004, has to be Bush's fault.
Do not buy, house has structural issues. Back away fast. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:14:44 PM EDT
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first off, buy some new shoes, ya homeless bum!
secondly, I'd be awful concerned about the tile crack first.. looks like there's some trouble underneath. I've seen cracks from shitty drywalling, but that is an awful lot of cracks to attribute to that. I'd pass. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:15:12 PM EDT
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Nice PINK shoes!
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:16:17 PM EDT
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It's literally impossible to judge this without knowing where these are in relation to each other.
Hire a professional or give us better information. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:16:44 PM EDT
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[b]snip
So should I pay an inspector to look or run and hide? I would hire an inspector even if it didn't have cracks. some people will fix the cracks and not mention them. I am currently in the market for my first house and have a foundation company and a reputable inspection company look at every house I am interested in. the general inspection will run about 500.00 but a lot of foundation companies will do free estimates. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:16:47 PM EDT
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Is the tile grouted all the way to the wall (no gap left for expansion)? If so, the tile damage could be from shrinkage of the slab due to temperature and humidity fluctuations. I had the tile floor in my kitchen explode in my last house. There was a loud rumbling sound and the whole floor was literally lifting up under my feet. Scared the crap out of me. I figured that a sinkhole just ate my foundation. I immediately started ripping the tile off to see the carnage. Slab was perfectly fine. Turns out to be a fairly common problem in FL when builders do not leave room around the perimeter for the tile to "float" on the slab.
Coupled with the wall cracks though, I'd guess that there is a more serious problem. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:17:57 PM EDT
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I love all the comments about ejecting. No comments about price. Buy a ~$250k house for ~$100k? I'll take 100 of those houses with cracks like those. Call the most expensive place you can find, and qet a quote/proposal on foundation repairs. For example, if they ask whether you want either 5 or 8 helical piers, tell them to give you a quote for 10. Then toss that written proposal into the deal. After you buy the house you can get it done cheaper. Never, ever, say no to a house deal. Make it worth your while, and then let the seller say no. House deal is $190 houses just like it in area are about $250-$270 |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:19:31 PM EDT
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Nice PINK shoes! They are red Nike's with Sheetrock dust all over |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:20:16 PM EDT
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sink hole +1 |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:23:56 PM EDT
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mobile home..literally.
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:24:27 PM EDT
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My house was built in the '70s and went through the Sorta-Great-ish Virginia Earthquake and had less cracks than that.
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:24:40 PM EDT
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House deal is $190 houses just like it in area are about $250-$270 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love all the comments about ejecting. No comments about price. Buy a ~$250k house for ~$100k? I'll take 100 of those houses with cracks like those. Call the most expensive place you can find, and qet a quote/proposal on foundation repairs. For example, if they ask whether you want either 5 or 8 helical piers, tell them to give you a quote for 10. Then toss that written proposal into the deal. After you buy the house you can get it done cheaper. Never, ever, say no to a house deal. Make it worth your while, and then let the seller say no. House deal is $190 houses just like it in area are about $250-$270 190K deal +50K slab jacking / repair / stabilization + a lot of frustration and worry = $240k.... $10k PROFIT!!!! Fuck that shit, just buy a nice $250k home and call it a day. Edited for emphasis. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:26:26 PM EDT
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Walk away now.....
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:26:58 PM EDT
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House deal is $190 houses just like it in area are about $250-$270 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love all the comments about ejecting. No comments about price. Buy a ~$250k house for ~$100k? I'll take 100 of those houses with cracks like those. Call the most expensive place you can find, and qet a quote/proposal on foundation repairs. For example, if they ask whether you want either 5 or 8 helical piers, tell them to give you a quote for 10. Then toss that written proposal into the deal. After you buy the house you can get it done cheaper. Never, ever, say no to a house deal. Make it worth your while, and then let the seller say no. House deal is $190 houses just like it in area are about $250-$270 I had cracks/foundation issues in my first house......RUN the fuck away! To really find out what the issue is, you are going to need a soil analysis. There is probably a lot of clay in the soil under the slab, seeing those cracks in the tile told me immediately it was on a slab and has major movement issues. The only fix for my old house was to dig out ALL of the soil under the foundation and in the areas around it. Good luck removing the soil from under the slab. And there is no way in Hell that I would ever be talked into piers. A home inspector is only going to be able to guess what is under that slab, I think it would be a waste of money to pay for one with all of that movement. Good luck. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:27:27 PM EDT
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Anything can be fixed. It just depends on how much you are willing to spend. You don't need advice on "buy" or "don't buy". You need professional advice on what the actual problem is and what it'll cost to fix it.
Then you can decide if the price + the fix + the headaches is worth it compared to your alternatives. It's also worth considering what kind of arrows you have in your quiver. The last place I bought needed lots of work but the price was right and I had the cash at the ready to address both known and unknown issues. If you are working almost entirely with debt to buy the house, then you should stick with move in ready homes. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:27:50 PM EDT
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House was only built in 2004 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How old is the house? Where is the house (state)? The tile has issues underneath. Is there a joint there? If so, they could have not used any paper under the mud and this will allow the separation to show. The location of each cracked area may matter too. Inner or outer walls. Load bearing or not. When I re-roofed my house, it created some cracks. They really didn't show until we had some snow though. The extra weight created some issues. House was only built in 2004 So it was a spec house built by a builder who was on the verge of bankruptcy. The builder took every shortcut they could including not prepping the ground under the house and laid the slab on un-disturbed top soil to save money. If you could by it for $50K it might be worth the expense of fixing but probably not. ETA- Built just as the housing bubble collapsed I might add. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:28:41 PM EDT
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Looks like a foundation issue, the house is moving. +1 Fuck that shit. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:28:54 PM EDT
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I would have guessed TX due to the cracks, but the ceiling texture doesn't look right for TX.
If you really want the home, then hire a structural engineer. No sense asking GD for advice on that. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:30:46 PM EDT
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Shit, man. Do you really want this house that bad? "This house will give you severe financial troubles" "It's alright! I've got an extra $50k I don't care about!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer. Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable. I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed Shit, man. Do you really want this house that bad? "This house will give you severe financial troubles" "It's alright! I've got an extra $50k I don't care about!" I ended up spending $100k in major repairs and remodeling on the place I bought last year for $160k. It's MINT now and I have absolutely zero regrets. It's rare that this makes sense, but sometimes it does. It'll all depends if the price is right and the final product justifies the effort. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: House deal is $190 houses just like it in area are about $250-$270 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love all the comments about ejecting. No comments about price. Buy a ~$250k house for ~$100k? I'll take 100 of those houses with cracks like those. Call the most expensive place you can find, and qet a quote/proposal on foundation repairs. For example, if they ask whether you want either 5 or 8 helical piers, tell them to give you a quote for 10. Then toss that written proposal into the deal. After you buy the house you can get it done cheaper. Never, ever, say no to a house deal. Make it worth your while, and then let the seller say no. House deal is $190 houses just like it in area are about $250-$270 You can get a lot of foundation work done for $60k. I'd certainly get an expert out there to look at it, and put some numbers on it. Make certain you are physically there onsite with the inspector/estimator. Be nice and discuss it with them. They usually fix foundations with helical piers. Each pier is around ~$1200. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzrxvWHKMUg |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:33:04 PM EDT
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We had United Dynamics(foundation repair co.) come in and fix our office here at work. I got to talking to the project manager about residential foundation repair as my house may need a little nip and tuck. He said a typical residential job costs about $6,000.00. You could use that in your negotiations OP. EDIT: United Dynamics runs anchors down to bed rock and jacks the foundation back up to where it's supposed to be. Pretty slick really. Are you certain you didn't miss a zero when you typed that figure? |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:35:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No basement. House is built in slab Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: what do the basement walls and floor look like? are the basement walls cracked. the tile cracks look like impact damage to me and the wall cracks look like settling. you need to see the basement walls and floor but I am not a home inspecter or structural engineer No basement. House is built in slab 2004. Reading |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:36:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2015 4:38:12 PM EDT
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I agree with the poor sheetrock work and maybe not enough wood behind it but that tile tells a different story.
Cracked slab In the coastal area of Texas There are three kinds of house Houses built on piers up off the ground Houses with cracked slabs Houses that will have cracked slabs. The difference is how far they move, all slabs have cracks but do they crack all the way across and do they come apart. A lot of slab problems can be cured making sure air is not getting under the slab and keeping it damp so that cracks in the soil cannot let air dry out under the slab. I banked soil around my garage slab and started watering the grass around the garage and it lifted the slab enough to close a 5/8 gap in the brick between the garage and workshop. it is cracked all to hell but it is not moving anymore. A foundation repair company owner told me to do this , that I did not need the piers. He would do them for me but said watering the grass and trees would lift it and damn if he was not right. It lifted the slab at the back of the shop at least 1.5 " shop and garage have no sheetrock if it did it would look like hell. I would avoid that house anyway |
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