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Posted: 7/24/2015 3:40:18 PM EDT
Offer was accepted on this house and before I pay for an expected or appraiser I want some more input.
To me it looks like a whole wall shifted. Everyone outside and in the attic looks good. but these are all over the house. Foundation issue or settling?
House is bank owned and is a screaming deal for the area. Might be too good to be true though....


crack in ceiling
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crack in kicken. It goes all the way over and down the wall.
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door to one bedroom sticks bad. This is both sides of door.
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Tiles cracking in kitchen floor.
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So should I pay an inspector to look or run and hide?
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:41:40 PM EDT
[#1]
buy a different house
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:41:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Eject


Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:41:56 PM EDT
[#3]
run away
 





Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:42:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Personally I'd run.

But then again I'm not an engineer, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:42:39 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm no expert but that looks like more than just settling cracks.  I'd pass.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:42:47 PM EDT
[#6]





lol





Someone built a house over a sinkhole.


 



eta Seriously, I suspect that there are issues that require further investigation. By a professional.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:42:51 PM EDT
[#7]
That's a NO-GO...walk away.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:42:55 PM EDT
[#8]
always have it inspected.

depending on what he says you may want to keep looking.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:43:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:43:15 PM EDT
[#10]
I wouldn't  purchase that.  

Issues.

That House has em'
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:43:21 PM EDT
[#11]
Home inspector, here. Those cracks could be due to any of several causes. Need to look deeper to tell if it's a real problem, but it certainly looks like it could be.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:43:34 PM EDT
[#12]
Looks like a foundation issue, the house is moving.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:43:39 PM EDT
[#13]
sink hole
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:43:51 PM EDT
[#14]
That ain't just settling.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:43:57 PM EDT
[#15]

That's foundation

<<<<<<homebuilder

Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:44:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer.
Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:44:29 PM EDT
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this

did you not see this when you made the offer ?
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:44:30 PM EDT
[#18]
Do you really want to get into chasing down the cause of all those cracks?

Next.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:44:59 PM EDT
[#19]
walk away
the house we rent looks similar
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:45:34 PM EDT
[#20]
If the tile isn't cracked from impact damage, run.   If the tile is impact damage, cut and mud the walls and call it a day.

Edit - looked closer, fuck that place.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:46:27 PM EDT
[#21]
Where is that house OP?  I've seen earthquake damage that looks like that before.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:46:59 PM EDT
[#22]


Fuck that!!!



RUN!

Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:47:05 PM EDT
[#23]
There's a reason why the price is so low as you can see.

Run very far away.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:48:12 PM EDT
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THis ^^^^^^^^^^^
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:48:24 PM EDT
[#25]
not fixable without first demolishing the house... run
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:48:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:49:20 PM EDT
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Did a walk though but have 15 days of due diligence left to back out
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:50:20 PM EDT
[#28]
As an engineer, run and run away fast.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:50:22 PM EDT
[#29]
To me that looks like an opportunity to get an inspector, find problems, and get a much better price
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:50:29 PM EDT
[#30]
That looks like poor drywall work.The cracking tiles are probably from dropping things on them or not enough thin set.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:50:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Is it in Florida?
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:51:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:51:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Even if you have it "Inspected" make sure your state holds inspectors liable for there word. Here in NC, they are not.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:52:04 PM EDT
[#34]
What type of soil is that house built on?

Is it in an earthquake area?

Is there a track nearby so you can run away from this deal?
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:52:41 PM EDT
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lol



 
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:53:00 PM EDT
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Sure, maybe, kinda if one issue or the other... all together it's a bad foundation and I would run away.


 
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:53:22 PM EDT
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer.
Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable.
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I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:54:24 PM EDT
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This.  Just pay the $100 or so dollars to have the house inspected and have them focus on the foundation.  It could only be one pier that sank, it could be a whole section of the foundation.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:55:43 PM EDT
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OP, as an engineer who had designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, you need to walk.  You're looking at foundation failure.

It will never improve.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:56:21 PM EDT
[#40]
what do the basement walls and floor look like?

are the basement walls cracked.

the tile cracks look like impact damage to me and the wall cracks look like settling.  

you need to see the basement walls and floor

but I am not a home inspecter or structural  engineer
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:56:29 PM EDT
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Who are you?
The listing agent?



Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:56:43 PM EDT
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OP, as an engineer who had designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, you need to walk.  You're looking at foundation failure.

It will never improve.
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Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:57:03 PM EDT
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I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed
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Unless you got more money to tear down and rebuild I would pull the offer.
Looks like you got some pretty serious foundation issues that are not going to be patchable.

I can throw about $40k to $50k in repairs into my loan if needed



Find another house, one without $40k to $50k in risk.

Really.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:57:10 PM EDT
[#44]
Money Pit

Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:57:13 PM EDT
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that is more cracking than I have in my house, which is 110 years old and a fieldstone foundation. Run!
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:57:31 PM EDT
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OP, as an engineer who had designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, you need to walk.  You're looking at foundation failure.

It will never improve.
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Listen to this man.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:57:55 PM EDT
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OP, as an engineer who had designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, you need to walk.  You're looking at foundation failure.

It will never improve.
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dont you think he should actually look at the foundation first?

it should be obvious
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:58:49 PM EDT
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This.

Not worth the gamble.


ETA

Is this home in an area that has flooded in the past?
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 3:59:59 PM EDT
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dont you think he should actually look at the foundation first?

it should be obvious
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OP, as an engineer who had designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, you need to walk.  You're looking at foundation failure.

It will never improve.


dont you think he should actually look at the foundation first?

it should be obvious



As an engineer who has designed literally hundreds of conventional residential structures, I don't need to see anything more.

It's already obvious.
Link Posted: 7/24/2015 4:00:24 PM EDT
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what do the basement walls and floor look like?

are the basement walls cracked.

the tile cracks look like impact damage to me and the wall cracks look like settling.  

you need to see the basement walls and floor

but I am not a home inspecter or structural  engineer
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No basement. House is built in slab
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