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I'm betting he torched that round off accidently, sympathetic reflex.  He was grabbing inside the vehicle at the time, and at one point it looks like his grip on the gun is way low.   Thinking he either grabbed at the interior and right hand also grabbed, or he adjusted the grip and it went off.  

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The cop could of been down the street from a moving car because the driver was dead and the  car rolling at the time.  Its really hard to tell how far the car moved before the driver was DOA.

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I used to live within walking distance of where it occurred, and am a UC graduate and current student so I am quite familiar with the area  There is no reason for campus police to be that far off campus, and almost all students living off campus to the south are on streets further west. There are also a lot better things for police in the area to be dealing with in the first place besides front license plates.   A few years ago I got pulled over by UCPD (on probasco, which never even enters into campus) for my jeep's 100% legal window tint "being too dark," and had my vehicle searched and let go.  I actually asked the officer if he was even in his jurisdiction and he kind of laughed as he replied that he was.  I do agree with Joe Deters that it was a "chicken shit stop" and think the reciprocity agreement UCPD has with CPD needs to be reviewed.  

I'm not a cop, but if i was I don't think I would be reaching into a car like that out of self preservation, but I guess shooting them works in that aspect too.  

I have watched the video a bunch of times now and I am just not seeing where "he was dragged way down the street," and I am certainly not seeing his arm stuck in the steering wheel which is what he reported.  To me looks like he may have stepped along with the car a couple times, just as long as it took to get his gun out.    I wish there was dashcam, and would like to see the other officer's bodycam as well if it was on.  From what I understand that officer will likely be facing charges as well over his report.

I normally side with the cops on these things, but in this one I don't think that shooting him in the head was justified.  Since I actually have to go to this area, I really won't mind if the the cop gets convicted as long as the city doesn't burn.  Anyone that lived here in 2001 remembers how bad it was and how much progress has happened in this city since then.  One thing that is for certain is the collaborative agreement that happened because of the 2001 riots is going to get a test now.

Also, I've never used front license plates in Ohio, some of my cars don't even have a bracket for them, and I see many other Ohio motorists without them.  I hope maybe this somehow causes the bill to get rid of FLP requirement to get passed, especially since most other states have already done so including our neighboring KY and IA.   I've been pulled over for them a few times, but never cited.  The front license plate thing is just a random way to pull someone over to give them a sobreity test or search their car, which is what I suspect was the case here.

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I hate the unarmed lie. He was armed with a 4000 pound weapon and was using it to seriously harm or kill the officer.

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13 kids and 60 arrests?
This dude bred himself a fucking sympathetic jury. Ingenious!

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I hate the unarmed lie. He was armed with a 4000 pound weapon and was using it to seriously harm or kill the officer.

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Note to self...don't close the door and turn the ignition while pulled over.

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Refused to produce his drivers licence and exit the car,
Again bit complying with LEO.

"I am pleased we will get some kind of justice," she said. "My brother was about to be just another stereotype and that didn't happen."

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when does cincinnati start burning?

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when does cincinnati start burning?

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Well, I think I may have possibly figured out why he pulled his handgun.

Here are a couple video clips from a couple frames before the officer's pistol came into view.  As the officer was putting his hand inside the vehicle, the driver reached up towards it.  It appears from the second clip, while the driver was revving the engine, he had grabbed onto the cops arm:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3801/20132292241_ca30c6d175_b.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3775/20132035901_76d36fba2b_b.jpg

As soon as the gun is within view of the driver, his hand releases the officer's arm and starts moving up towards the side of his head.  About 6-7 frames after the clip above, the fatal shot is fired.  Here is a clip from the time of the shot:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3694/19938499450_fafc7226ff_b.jpg

The officer does not appear to be caught on anything (and in fact almost appears to be grabbing onto the driver's shirt or seatbelt).  It seems he probably made the decision to fire as the guy was holding onto his arm.  He drew (most likely, IMO) with the intention of stopping the driver, but by the time the shot was fired he was no longer being held on to.  

Make of all this what you will, but if the guy was actually grabbing onto him, I'm having a tough time calling this a 100% bad shoot.

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I read through as much as I could,  about 10 pages. This is what I got from the video.


Horrible shoot. A. No front license plate is a stupid law.   The officer doesn't have to stop someone for that. Yeah I know it's the law and he broke it.  Big deal. Pulling anyone over for that is just fishing.   B. He reached into the car which looked to be an attempt to stop the guy from driving.   C. When he couldn't stop him,  he decided his life was in danger from someone trying to drive away from him. Then proceeded to shoot him.  


The guys life history has nothing to do with this stop.

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No front plates on 2 of my 3 Ohio vehicles.

I'm not worried about being pulled over and getting shot.  It might be my white privilege, though....