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Posted: 7/18/2015 6:30:55 AM EDT
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well done Ruger
its really neat to see what Ruger is doing these days, while Bill created some great designs ( The Single Six, Blackhawk, .22 Mark I/ II, 10-22) in later years he didn't innovate and the "no honest man needs more than 10rds" really pissed people off. In the past ten years Ruger has changed very much, I'm glad to see them branch out with no ideas and the fact that they are actually listening to their customers is outstanding not really in the market for a precision rifle but one of these in .308 does look interesting |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 6:45:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: southpaw in 6.5 CM and I'm a buyer. ditto |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 8:46:39 AM EDT
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Its a bolt gun, what point is there in taking ar barrels? Barrels- particularly the throat- get shot out, at least relative to the point that acceptable accuracy is no longer attainable. Someone who only shoots their bolt action around hunting season won't ever see the need, but any serious precision shooter will be wanting to replace a barrel eventually. AR barrels are everywhere. I'm highly interested in this vs. the custom build I have priced out. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 8:47:40 AM EDT
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Thanks for the link..  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good video at snipers hide about it. Thanks for the link.. My bad snipers hide article and video |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 8:55:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/18/2015 9:20:07 AM EDT
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What action is this ruler action based on? Highly modified American push feed Is that a Mauser style lineage? Sorry for the basic question. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 9:21:13 AM EDT
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Barrels- particularly the throat- get shot out, at least relative to the point that acceptable accuracy is no longer attainable. Someone who only shoots their bolt action around hunting season won't ever see the need, but any serious precision shooter will be wanting to replace a barrel eventually. AR barrels are everywhere. I'm highly interested in this vs. the custom build I have priced out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its a bolt gun, what point is there in taking ar barrels? Barrels- particularly the throat- get shot out, at least relative to the point that acceptable accuracy is no longer attainable. Someone who only shoots their bolt action around hunting season won't ever see the need, but any serious precision shooter will be wanting to replace a barrel eventually. AR barrels are everywhere. I'm highly interested in this vs. the custom build I have priced out. This is interesting. An easy change barrel |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:06:56 AM EDT
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Is that a Mauser style lineage? Sorry for the basic question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What action is this ruler action based on? Highly modified American push feed Is that a Mauser style lineage? Sorry for the basic question. The model 77 is a Mauser lineage controlled feed The American is a push feed. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:26:24 AM EDT
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If it really does all that, I'm in. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:51:25 AM EDT
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I'm very interested in one in 6.5. Looks like ruger has really hit one of out of the park with this rifle.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:54:48 AM EDT
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I'd be interested in getting one eventually!
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Posted: 7/18/2015 11:10:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm very interested in one in 6.5. Looks like ruger has really hit one of out of the park with this rifle. x2 |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:14:12 PM EDT
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One of the engineers for this is a member of the snipers hide. Someone did their homework. As soon as I find one in 6.5 I'm buying it. I'm just deciding whether to keep my new Rem long range 300 win mag or sell it due to its future lack of use.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:24:19 PM EDT
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Not sure if discussed yet but...AR stock exchanges?
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd take one in 6.5. Yeah, either that or .308. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:27:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like it uses a lock nut like a savage (17) that has AR reciever threads on the OD that lets you attach any AR barrel nut (88) to secure the handguard. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:31:22 PM EDT
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Not sure if discussed yet but...AR stock exchanges? You can use ar15 stocks. this is a copy paste from frank at snipershides review. "If you wanted to change the stock, use any AR15 capable stock, Magpul PRS, no problem. Want to change the fore-end, same thing, you can add any AR15 fore-end. It has a barrel nut making it that much easier. The only feature you cannot change is the trigger." |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:38:52 PM EDT
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Left handed, 300min mag pls..
Pls ruger? Ruger pls... |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:41:27 PM EDT
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I disagree. Tactical precision rifles is still a relatively niche part of the gun market. If this rifle can be competitive with what's out there in accuracy, I think it will be very successful for Ruger. For what this rifle has, and to be able to get it for under $1k could be big if it turns out to be a decent gun. A Remington 700 barreled action and an aftermarket chassis is going to cost you more than this rifle out of the box. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a game changer by any means for Ruger or the industry. I applaud their tenacity and like the Company but, why does it always seem they get in the game late? I agree. I think a lot of people don't understand who this is marketed to. In that game a 1000$ rifle that is actually capable is a game changer. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:49:37 PM EDT
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Left handed, 300min mag pls.. Pls ruger? Ruger pls... x2 |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:51:12 PM EDT
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Lot of interest in this here for the 6.5G. Is that better than the .260remington?
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Posted: 7/18/2015 12:53:08 PM EDT
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I want one 6.5. Will have to sell my savage in 308.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 1:10:23 PM EDT
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6.5cm is super nice also. plus hornady makes great bullets
somebody really did their homework with this one. if i did not already own a Remington 5r i would be all over this like asap. use any mag you want, and rail, and stock and @ 1k. they are going to sell a ton of these. and they use the proper rifling. i am really impressed |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 1:29:25 PM EDT
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Lot of interest in this here for the 6.5G. Is that better than the .260remington? They are the same but you can get match grade ammo for the 6.5 for about a buck a round so dont have to reload. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 1:35:04 PM EDT
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Right now I wouldn't trade that level of accuracy (which is impressive, assuming it performs - and I'll assume it does) and the extra weight for saving ~1300 over a semi .308.
But I could certainly change my mind at some point. This looks like it could be a good showing by Ruger. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 1:37:49 PM EDT
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Lot of interest in this here for the 6.5G. Is that better than the .260remington? Better options for factory ammo. But I would want one in 260, should be simple to swap calibers though. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 1:45:37 PM EDT
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made by ruger mags that no one else makes? Are you illiterate or <Removed - play nice - T7> . Read the article. Takes multiple mags. Ai magpul etc. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 1:54:13 PM EDT
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Not a game changer by any means for Ruger or the industry. I applaud their tenacity and like the Company but, why does it always seem they get in the game late? Who else makes a 3/4-MOA bolt gun that takes AR grips, AR stocks, and AR handguards and accepts SR-25/DPMS/AICS mags, and can be rebarreled using typical AR armorer's tools for a ~$1,000 street price? |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 1:56:59 PM EDT
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Lot of interest in this here for the 6.5G. Is that better than the .260remington? Should note that the 6.5 is a Creedmoor not the Grendel (in reference to the "G" you posted). ETA: Unless the "G" denoted something else... |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 2:01:07 PM EDT
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Who else makes a 3/4-MOA bolt gun that takes AR grips, AR stocks, and AR handguards and accepts SR-25/DPMS/AICS mags, and can be rebarreled using typical AR armorer's tools for a ~$1,000 street price? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a game changer by any means for Ruger or the industry. I applaud their tenacity and like the Company but, why does it always seem they get in the game late? Who else makes a 3/4-MOA bolt gun that takes AR grips, AR stocks, and AR handguards and accepts SR-25/DPMS/AICS mags, and can be rebarreled using typical AR armorer's tools for a ~$1,000 street price? The magazine feature is something subtle that I don't think most people on here quite understand. You can't get a 700 to feed from a double-stack magazine without some serious gunsmithing, or buying some very specific 700-based aftermarket receivers. It's by no means a quick and simple proposition to use those mags...but assuming the Ruger fits and feeds them reliably, that opens up a world of magazine availability. In competition that's going to enable 20 or 25 round mags, and there are some stages where that might actually be quite rewarding for shooters (cue bitching and inevitable rules changes in 3, 2, 1...). Building cross-compatability with AR grips, selector levers, and handguards is another stroke of genius. There's so much selection available in the selector lever market these days, and Ruger just opened up all of for their platform. My only question at this point that I haven't seen addressed is whether the buttstock adjustment levers can be swapped over from the right to the left side. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 3:17:37 PM EDT
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Should note that the 6.5 is a Creedmoor not the Grendel (in reference to the "G" you posted). ETA: Unless the "G" denoted something else... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lot of interest in this here for the 6.5G. Is that better than the .260remington? Should note that the 6.5 is a Creedmoor not the Grendel (in reference to the "G" you posted). ETA: Unless the "G" denoted something else... Yes. Sorry. Reading is fundamental.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 3:31:07 PM EDT
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I want one 6.5. Will have to sell my savage in 308. What type of Savage do you have? |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 3:59:00 PM EDT
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Well hot damn diggidy I've found my host to build one of these 
http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2012/05/mcmillan-cs5-suitcase-sniper-b.jpg What the hell is that, and why do I want one? 
McMillan Alias, formerly Tubb 2000 aka T2K which dominates in NRA High Power. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/soundplay/gifs/5xyl5.gif Specifically that's the CS5 but whose that worried about it  12" of .308 tubegun goodness for under $1400 sounds good to me
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:13:35 PM EDT
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I want one 6.5. Will have to sell my savage in 308. What type of Savage do you have? I've got a brand new Savage Hog Hunter in .308 I'll sell to fund one of these. I just bought it to put it in a XLR chassis. This new Ruger offering negates that need completely. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:17:01 PM EDT
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Well, since I already have a bunch of P-Mags that will fit it...and a whole bunch of 7.62/308 ammo and brass and dies and such-like... ...be kinda silly of me not to buy one. I mean, right? Seems like a perfectly good reason to me. 
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:36:59 PM EDT
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The magazine feature is something subtle that I don't think most people on here quite understand. You can't get a 700 to feed from a double-stack magazine without some serious gunsmithing, or buying some very specific 700-based aftermarket receivers. It's by no means a quick and simple proposition to use those mags...but assuming the Ruger fits and feeds them reliably, that opens up a world of magazine availability. In competition that's going to enable 20 or 25 round mags, and there are some stages where that might actually be quite rewarding for shooters (cue bitching and inevitable rules changes in 3, 2, 1...). Building cross-compatability with AR grips, selector levers, and handguards is another stroke of genius. There's so much selection available in the selector lever market these days, and Ruger just opened up all of for their platform. My only question at this point that I haven't seen addressed is whether the buttstock adjustment levers can be swapped over from the right to the left side. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a game changer by any means for Ruger or the industry. I applaud their tenacity and like the Company but, why does it always seem they get in the game late? Who else makes a 3/4-MOA bolt gun that takes AR grips, AR stocks, and AR handguards and accepts SR-25/DPMS/AICS mags, and can be rebarreled using typical AR armorer's tools for a ~$1,000 street price? The magazine feature is something subtle that I don't think most people on here quite understand. You can't get a 700 to feed from a double-stack magazine without some serious gunsmithing, or buying some very specific 700-based aftermarket receivers. It's by no means a quick and simple proposition to use those mags...but assuming the Ruger fits and feeds them reliably, that opens up a world of magazine availability. In competition that's going to enable 20 or 25 round mags, and there are some stages where that might actually be quite rewarding for shooters (cue bitching and inevitable rules changes in 3, 2, 1...). Building cross-compatability with AR grips, selector levers, and handguards is another stroke of genius. There's so much selection available in the selector lever market these days, and Ruger just opened up all of for their platform. My only question at this point that I haven't seen addressed is whether the buttstock adjustment levers can be swapped over from the right to the left side. I'm paraphrasing here, but in regards to feeding from double stack mags, someone at Ruger realized the 3rd bolt lug would fit right between the feed lips of the mag when opening/closing the bolt. No goofy Mossberg style 'flapper' needed. Considering the adjustments are tension lever and screw adjust, I can't see why they wouldn't be. Even if they aren't someone will knock out an aftermarket part pretty fast I'd imagine. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:40:31 PM EDT
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It's interesting that the economies of scale involved in the AR-15/AR-10 world have become so huge that the parts are seeping over into other rifle applications. AR barrels are so widespread that it starts to make sense to use them in a precision rifle, AR stocks, AR handguards, etc.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:55:47 PM EDT
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It's interesting that the economies of scale involved in the AR-15/AR-10 world have become so huge that the parts are seeping over into other rifle applications. AR barrels are so widespread that it starts to make sense to use them in a precision rifle, AR stocks, AR handguards, etc. What needs to be replaced for a normal AR10 barrel to fit in one of these RPR? Just the extension? |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:55:57 PM EDT
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I need this. I didn't know I needed it before, but now I do.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 4:59:08 PM EDT
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What needs to be replaced for a normal AR10 barrel to fit in one of these RPR? Just the extension? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's interesting that the economies of scale involved in the AR-15/AR-10 world have become so huge that the parts are seeping over into other rifle applications. AR barrels are so widespread that it starts to make sense to use them in a precision rifle, AR stocks, AR handguards, etc. What needs to be replaced for a normal AR10 barrel to fit in one of these RPR? Just the extension? Well for one, you'd need a barrel without a gas port. 
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Posted: 7/18/2015 5:16:17 PM EDT
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It's interesting that the economies of scale involved in the AR-15/AR-10 world have become so huge that the parts are seeping over into other rifle applications. AR barrels are so widespread that it starts to make sense to use them in a precision rifle, AR stocks, AR handguards, etc. What needs to be replaced for a normal AR10 barrel to fit in one of these RPR? Just the extension? Well for one, you'd need a barrel without a gas port. I feel like that's easily fixed by the market if these rifles catch on. Either barrel makers will offer AR10 barrels without gas ports, or someone will make a lo-pro gas block with just a plug and no hole for the gas tube. With the gas block plug, you can use any caliber and brand of barrel on the market. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 5:33:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel like that's easily fixed by the market if these rifles catch on. Either barrel makers will offer AR10 barrels without gas ports, or someone will make a lo-pro gas block with just a plug and no hole for the gas tube. With the gas block plug, you can use any caliber and brand of barrel on the market. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's interesting that the economies of scale involved in the AR-15/AR-10 world have become so huge that the parts are seeping over into other rifle applications. AR barrels are so widespread that it starts to make sense to use them in a precision rifle, AR stocks, AR handguards, etc. What needs to be replaced for a normal AR10 barrel to fit in one of these RPR? Just the extension? Well for one, you'd need a barrel without a gas port. I feel like that's easily fixed by the market if these rifles catch on. Either barrel makers will offer AR10 barrels without gas ports, or someone will make a lo-pro gas block with just a plug and no hole for the gas tube. With the gas block plug, you can use any caliber and brand of barrel on the market. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 5:34:13 PM EDT
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I've got one ordered in 243 it will be interesting to see if it lives up to the hype. I'm going to use it as a "budget" long range rig. Time will tell how it plays out, but it would be cool to see something be able to get people into long range more affordably. Not everyone can go out and spend 3k+ on a gun and The same on an optic.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 5:35:25 PM EDT
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Who will be the first Arfcom'er to buy one and post a review?
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Posted: 7/18/2015 5:40:30 PM EDT
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That is a fucking winner folks!
Takes common mags, precision rifle with a great design, AR hand guards, and possibly sub $1000? Big win. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 6:14:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:18:23 PM EDT
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The more I read about this rifle, the more I want one. GAS
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:25:03 PM EDT
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There's going to be a lot of "oh fuck!" Meetings at rifle companies Monday if they did not already know about this
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:37:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's going to be a lot of "oh fuck!" Meetings at rifle companies Monday if they did not already know about this |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 10:39:46 PM EDT
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