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So he was out of line for taking control of the things she was evidently willing to use to hurt him before she got a chance to hurt him? Fuck that. Chick or dude, you bow up like you want to fight, you'd better be ready when someone accepts your invitation. Posturing for a fight should be met with immediate violence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Full video is worse IMO. He grabs her first. Yes she had raised her fist, but she never throws a punch until after he grabs her. He initiates the contact, he is therefore the aggressor. Even setting aside that fact you should never hit a woman unless you're seriously in danger of harm, he's wrong all the way around regardless. So he was out of line for taking control of the things she was evidently willing to use to hurt him before she got a chance to hurt him? Fuck that. Chick or dude, you bow up like you want to fight, you'd better be ready when someone accepts your invitation. Posturing for a fight should be met with immediate violence. Yup. |
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Plenty of captain save-a-hoes in this thread will tell you that you are not a man now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most of you basement dwellers have probably never been in a crowded bar/club. It is elbow to elbow and lightly moving someone out of your way is the norm. People squeezing past people to get from one place to the next. It is actually pretty amazing more fights don't break out. I will defend myself against a threat, be it man or women. After all the Ronda Rhousey threads you would think some of you would get the hint that women can harm you, and harm you fast. I just don't get the old adage of never hit a women. I will walk away from anything I can but I don't care what sex, color, or size is of the person assaulting me. Plenty of captain save-a-hoes in this thread will tell you that you are not a man now. It's not really white knighting or being a captain save-a-ho, it's about knowing that I have fuckall to prove to a man in a bar, let alone a woman. If someone wants to be lippy, I'll just leave and head back to my table or go elsewhere. What good comes out of proving my manhood to them by pushing my fist down their throat? Nothing. I didn't prove shit to myself, and I am probably taking a ride in a cop car. It's idiotic. ETA it is even more idiotic when I KNOW the other person doesn't stand a chance. That broad was nothing compared to him, and he knew it. Hell, just by the way she raised her fist, you knew she was no Rhonda Rousey. Am I going to grab her and plant a punch on her jaw? No. That just would make me a docuhebag. |
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He kept shoving her, she turned around and told him to stop. He grabbed her and started moving her back and forth and then when she slapped out (kitten punch) he pulled her hand down and struck her in the jaw. I would say he will be charged. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They need to show the whole video. It only shows where he is hitting her, not the lead in. He kept shoving her, she turned around and told him to stop. He grabbed her and started moving her back and forth and then when she slapped out (kitten punch) he pulled her hand down and struck her in the jaw. I would say he will be charged. He only grabbed her fist when she raised it at him to threaten him, and then she hit him in response to him grabbing her harm to prevent her from using that arm to swing at him. Had she been a guy, there would be NO question at all that he had earned getting decked. You don't get to raise your fist at somebody because you were slighted, and then wonder why they hit you when you tried to hit them first. She could've just let him slide by, but no, that was too hard, she had to raise her fist and (allegedly) started talking shit. He grabbed her raised fist to prevent her from hitting him with that fist, and she swung on him with the other. Oh well. |
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It's not really white knighting or being a captain save-a-ho, it's about knowing that I have fuckall to prove to a man in a bar, let alone a woman. If someone wants to be lippy, I'll just leave and head back to my table or go elsewhere. What good comes out of proving my manhood to them by pushing my fist down their throat? Nothing. I didn't prove shit to myself, and I am probably taking a ride in a cop car. It's idiotic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most of you basement dwellers have probably never been in a crowded bar/club. It is elbow to elbow and lightly moving someone out of your way is the norm. People squeezing past people to get from one place to the next. It is actually pretty amazing more fights don't break out. I will defend myself against a threat, be it man or women. After all the Ronda Rhousey threads you would think some of you would get the hint that women can harm you, and harm you fast. I just don't get the old adage of never hit a women. I will walk away from anything I can but I don't care what sex, color, or size is of the person assaulting me. Plenty of captain save-a-hoes in this thread will tell you that you are not a man now. It's not really white knighting or being a captain save-a-ho, it's about knowing that I have fuckall to prove to a man in a bar, let alone a woman. If someone wants to be lippy, I'll just leave and head back to my table or go elsewhere. What good comes out of proving my manhood to them by pushing my fist down their throat? Nothing. I didn't prove shit to myself, and I am probably taking a ride in a cop car. It's idiotic. That's a lesson of life and perspective....something an 19yr old likely doesn't possess much of. |
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Lol he didnt shove her. He was trying to slide by her and get to the bar. She stuck her fat ass out intentionally blocking him from doing so. Both assholes should have taken a ride. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They need to show the whole video. It only shows where he is hitting her, not the lead in. He kept shoving her, she turned around and told him to stop. He grabbed her and started moving her back and forth and then when she slapped out (kitten punch) he pulled her hand down and struck her in the jaw. I would say he will be charged. Lol he didnt shove her. He was trying to slide by her and get to the bar. She stuck her fat ass out intentionally blocking him from doing so. Both assholes should have taken a ride. He did shove her to get to the bar, whether she was blocking him or not does not matter. He did grab her first, so in both instances he initiated contact. Hell her mouth may have got her the punch more than anything else, I am just telling you in Florida when the jury made up old white woman retirees from Ohio decides this case he is f'ed. You may not like it but it's truth he is in trouble. Edit: You also may not like this but due to disparity of force she could literally have shot him and walked on the charge. |
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Can't believe how many ARFCOMERS are all for punching a chick in the face
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It's not really white knighting or being a captain save-a-ho, it's about knowing that I have fuckall to prove to a man in a bar, let alone a woman. If someone wants to be lippy, I'll just leave and head back to my table or go elsewhere. What good comes out of proving my manhood to them by pushing my fist down their throat? Nothing. I didn't prove shit to myself, and I am probably taking a ride in a cop car. It's idiotic. ETA it is even more idiotic when I KNOW the other person doesn't stand a chance. That broad was nothing compared to him, and he knew it. Hell, just by the way she raised her fist, you knew she was no Rhonda Rousey. Am I going to grab her and plant a punch on her jaw? No. That just would make me a docuhebag. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most of you basement dwellers have probably never been in a crowded bar/club. It is elbow to elbow and lightly moving someone out of your way is the norm. People squeezing past people to get from one place to the next. It is actually pretty amazing more fights don't break out. I will defend myself against a threat, be it man or women. After all the Ronda Rhousey threads you would think some of you would get the hint that women can harm you, and harm you fast. I just don't get the old adage of never hit a women. I will walk away from anything I can but I don't care what sex, color, or size is of the person assaulting me. Plenty of captain save-a-hoes in this thread will tell you that you are not a man now. It's not really white knighting or being a captain save-a-ho, it's about knowing that I have fuckall to prove to a man in a bar, let alone a woman. If someone wants to be lippy, I'll just leave and head back to my table or go elsewhere. What good comes out of proving my manhood to them by pushing my fist down their throat? Nothing. I didn't prove shit to myself, and I am probably taking a ride in a cop car. It's idiotic. ETA it is even more idiotic when I KNOW the other person doesn't stand a chance. That broad was nothing compared to him, and he knew it. Hell, just by the way she raised her fist, you knew she was no Rhonda Rousey. Am I going to grab her and plant a punch on her jaw? No. That just would make me a docuhebag. Not disagreeing with you at all. I would never have responded that way, but I believe she was just as much at fault for escalating the incident as he was and both should have been charged. |
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She was definitely blocking him from trying to get to the bar. He puts his hand on the back of the girl to the left to try and squeeze in. The girl on the right is clearly blocking him. He grabs the bar and tries to pull himself past her but she keeps moving left to box him out.
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Can't believe how many ARFCOMERS are all for punching a chick in the face I wonder how dude got his over 21 bracelet. View Quote Probably how all the other underage people in Tally and every other college campus in America get theirs... And it's not that people are for punching a chick in the face, it's that if a chick wants to throw first then she's earned what gets thrown back her way. If that was a dude at the bar, most people wouldn't be all rabble rabbling. |
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Can't believe how many ARFCOMERS are all for punching a chick in the face I wonder how dude got his over 21 bracelet. View Quote I cant believe all the people here who think the drunken special snowflake should be allowed to get away with her part in escalating the incident simply because she has tits. |
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dumb ass should have just walked away. Hitting a chick in a bar will never go well for a guy. View Quote This. I'm not saying I would NEVER hit a woman, but it would take a whole hell of a lot for me to do so (like the woman had one of my children hostage or something). Other than that, walk away and if you can't just restrain her. Bad punch. |
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Full Video looks pretty bad for him. Regardless of what led up to words being exchanged, it appears he went hands on first.
She did have a clenched fist, but we do not know what was being said. All she has to say was she felt threatened and was preparing to defend herself. If he had simply raised his hands in a defensive posture and she took a swing at him, then he punched her maybe justified. But I don't see that. |
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Quoted: Say bye...bye....to his football career, even if she hit first. The libtards will be all up in arms over this one. View Quote You do know that there is pretty credible evidence that Jameis Winston raped at least woman while QB at FSU, right? Thanks to the "thoroughness" of the Tallahassee Police Department, those charges just seemed to melt away. |
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Quoted: He's been arrested, charged with a misdemeanor and suspended indefinitely from the team. He'll never play a down of football for FSU until after everything dies down and he tears up the JUCO league for a couple of seasons, most likely JUCO transfer eventually after everything plays out in court. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Side note - Judging from the treatment the Jameis accuser got, if the QB does end up somehow facing discipline that girl is going to have a fun rest of her college career at FSU. He's been arrested, charged with a misdemeanor and suspended indefinitely from the team. He'll never play a down of football for FSU until after everything dies down and he tears up the JUCO league for a couple of seasons, most likely JUCO transfer eventually after everything plays out in court. Fixt. |
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I cant believe all the people here who think the drunken special snowflake should be allowed to get away with her part in escalating the incident simply because she has tits. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can't believe how many ARFCOMERS are all for punching a chick in the face I wonder how dude got his over 21 bracelet. I cant believe all the people here who think the drunken special snowflake should be allowed to get away with her part in escalating the incident simply because she has tits. Get away with what? Being rude? "Get away with"? There a big difference between being a rude bitch and responding with misdemeanor battery. The law certainly sees it that way. And, unless you've got $5000 you don't mind parting with, it's best not to throw punches out of some feeling of being "disrespected". And, God forbid the person is KO'd and gets a head injury when dropping to the floor ... that would not be a good thing for one's bank account. |
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Fuck that guy...notice how the metrosexual next to girl is like WTF happened??
I don't go for that shit. Even if the girl is a DB just walk away from the stupidity. Now you are part of the stupidity. |
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Naw man, that shit is unacceptable.You don't ever hit a woman. Just walk the fuck away... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He's a fucking pussy. And so is the bartender for acting like nothing even happened. Big guy for punching a woman in the face with a closed fist.. And i can't even believe people here are condoning it. Wtf over? I wouldn't punch a woman, but if you think you are bad ass enough to throw a punch, you had better be ready to take one, woman or not. I have no sympathy. Naw man, that shit is unacceptable.You don't ever hit a woman. Just walk the fuck away... What if a woman was attacking your wife? Let's say 2 so you can't claim "my woman can handle herself!" |
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A pair of breasts doesn't exempt you from being put in your place if you throw the first punch. Too many men think that women are somehow precious objects, and aren't subject to the rules of decent behavior. I thought the punch was a bit heavy handed, a bitch slap would have been more appropriate ( a bitch slap is not defined by gender, men can be bitch slapped). I think he'll be disciplined harshly though.
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If in fact she actually punched him first, then good punch......fuck that bitch. You start hitting men like another man does, you need to be able to defend yourself or expect the consequences. Keep your self entitled cunt hands to yourself.
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Get away with what? Being rude? "Get away with"? There a big difference between being a rude bitch and responding with misdemeanor battery. The law certainly sees it that way. And, unless you've got $5000 you don't mind parting with, it's best not to throw punches out of some feeling of being "disrespected". And, God forbid the person is KO'd and gets a head injury when dropping to the floor ... that would not be a good thing for one's bank account. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can't believe how many ARFCOMERS are all for punching a chick in the face I wonder how dude got his over 21 bracelet. I cant believe all the people here who think the drunken special snowflake should be allowed to get away with her part in escalating the incident simply because she has tits. Get away with what? Being rude? "Get away with"? There a big difference between being a rude bitch and responding with misdemeanor battery. The law certainly sees it that way. And, unless you've got $5000 you don't mind parting with, it's best not to throw punches out of some feeling of being "disrespected". And, God forbid the person is KO'd and gets a head injury when dropping to the floor ... that would not be a good thing for one's bank account. Must have missed that part where she took the first swing. Watch the full vid at the link. |
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A pair of breasts doesn't exempt you from being put in your place if you throw the first punch. Too many men think that women are somehow precious objects, and aren't subject to the rules of decent behavior. I thought the punch was a bit heavy handed, a bitch slap would have been more appropriate ( a bitch slap is not defined by gender, men can be bitch slapped). I think he'll be disciplined harshly though. View Quote I agree, he overreacted and deserves what he gets. She should have been charged as well IMO. |
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You hit me when I did nothing wrong, you're getting hit back.
She started it, even if he was being pushy to get to the bar. Just tell him to back off, but she took it to violence first. |
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I can think of plenty of things dumber - like being an underage scholarship athlete and doing this shit in a bar, that's throwing away your whole career level of dumbness. My dumbness might be a night of jail and throwing some money at my lawyer - I can live with that, been there, done that and probably will again at some point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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De'Andre is a vile piece of shit (judging from the video). Do that in front of me or my friends and he wouldn't need play books anymore, just coloring books. There is nothing dumber than playing White Knight for a girl who found the trouble she sought. She won't do your jail time for you, or take your felony. Never defend the honor of a woman who has none. Nothing good can come of it. I can think of plenty of things dumber - like being an underage scholarship athlete and doing this shit in a bar, that's throwing away your whole career level of dumbness. My dumbness might be a night of jail and throwing some money at my lawyer - I can live with that, been there, done that and probably will again at some point. If you're talking about causing permanent injury (coloring books reference) in my state it is a ten-year felony, not a night in jail. (Assault w intent to do great bodily harm/less than murder.) The one guy I knew personally who did that served an actual seven of the ten years, and he was a "model prisoner". To the athlete's behavior, a football star at my son's high school with EXCELLENT grades took a rape plea for banging a girl on school property. Everyone knew it was "buyer's remorse" but it was his word against hers and he figured he couldn't win. That guy was an awesome player and had scholarships like crazy. Life is tough when you fail to consider the consequences. |
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She tried to block him out, then shoulder checked him, then got in his face, then raised her hand like she was going to hit him. He grabbed her hand to get from being punched. Then she punched him with her other hand.
Yep... I wouldnt convict the Seminole after seeing that. She escalated every single stage. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Too bad he didnt knock her out. I dont think the lesson was harsh enough for that fat chick. -edit- after watching it again, it looks like she was trying to kick him as well. She better have charges pressed against her. |
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He grabbed her arm, she says "let go of me", then hits him. I think hitting him in the face is a bad move for her, but he started it by grabbing her arm.
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He's a fucking pussy. And so is the bartender for acting like nothing even happened. Big guy for punching a woman in the face with a closed fist.. And i can't even believe people here are condoning it. Wtf over? View Quote Meh. Zero fucks given about a woman who wants to play punching games with a man. Hopefully she learned her lesson and will refrain from assaulting people in the future. |
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Can't believe how many ARFCOMERS are all for punching a chick in the face I wonder how dude got his over 21 bracelet. I cant believe all the people here who think the drunken special snowflake should be allowed to get away with her part in escalating the incident simply because she has tits. Get away with what? Being rude? "Get away with"? There a big difference between being a rude bitch and responding with misdemeanor battery. The law certainly sees it that way. And, unless you've got $5000 you don't mind parting with, it's best not to throw punches out of some feeling of being "disrespected". And, God forbid the person is KO'd and gets a head injury when dropping to the floor ... that would not be a good thing for one's bank account. Must have missed that part where she took the first swing. Watch the full vid at the link. He was grabbing her before she took the first swing. |
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He grabbed her arm, she says "let go of me", then hits him. I think hitting him in the face is a bad move for her, but he started it by grabbing her arm. View Quote He grabbed the arm of a clenched fist that was about to get used. If a dude raises his fist back, I'm not going to stand there and wait to see if he means it or not. |
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She tried to block him out, then shoulder checked him, then got in his face, then raised her hand like she was going to hit him. He grabbed her hand to get from being punched. Then she punched him with her other hand. Yep... I wouldnt convict the Seminole after seeing that. She escalated every single stage. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Too bad he didnt knock her out. I dont think the lesson was harsh enough for that fat chick. -edit- after watching it again, it looks like she was trying to kick him as well. She better have charges pressed against her. View Quote Plus, for an athlete that wasn't exactly a haymaker. He looked to be putting about half effort into it. |
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Florida State - check Douchebag cap, replete with stickers and price tag, worn backwards - check Name with an apostrophe in it - check Bar with plastic cups - check Florida Thread free square - check BINGO! View Quote Lol I think I win the pool in the Huskers memorial college football thread!! Eta Perception is reality. FSU can't wash this away after the Winston thing. No matter tho. Buckeyes are gonna win it again. |
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Can't believe how many ARFCOMERS are all for punching a chick in the face I wonder how dude got his over 21 bracelet. I cant believe all the people here who think the drunken special snowflake should be allowed to get away with her part in escalating the incident simply because she has tits. Get away with what? Being rude? "Get away with"? There a big difference between being a rude bitch and responding with misdemeanor battery. The law certainly sees it that way. And, unless you've got $5000 you don't mind parting with, it's best not to throw punches out of some feeling of being "disrespected". And, God forbid the person is KO'd and gets a head injury when dropping to the floor ... that would not be a good thing for one's bank account. Must have missed that part where she took the first swing. Watch the full vid at the link. He was grabbing her before she took the first swing. He grabbed an arm with a clenched fist that was about to be swung at him. |
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Worked at a bouncer at a number of bars years back... Not excusing his punch, but I can't tell you how many drunk self important cunts will go straight to violence when they feel slighted, relying on the old I'm just a girl, no one will hit me back mentality. Can't say Id deck one, but I'm not heartbroken to see it happen occasionally. View Quote Yep. I've never punched a woman (cuz she damn sure wasn't acting like a "lady"), but I'm not going to get all choked up that she ran into someone who didn't care about her bullshit |
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He handled it a lot better than I would have. If someone punches me I'm going to hit them back and keep hitting them until they are no longer a threat, and preferably on the ground and unconscious. All the 'don't hit girls' guys should try bouncing at a really rowdy bar for a month or two. That's as long as I made it anyway.
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Watch the entire video, he started the contact. I wonder what he was saying happened before he found out there was video.
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I don't agree with him hitting her because she didn't pose a serious threat to him. Having said that, I feel no sympathy for her getting punched in the face.
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You can take the hood rat out of the hood............ Hope the next several years he sits around thinking how his dumb ass threw away millions of dollars and never finds a job over min. wage. I'll bet he has a thick juvi felony record.
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Watch the entire video, he started the contact. I wonder what he was saying happened before he found out there was video. View Quote Fuck he did. She was intentionally blocking him from making his way to the bar and became indignant when he did, probably because she wasn't getting the attention she craved. She then started a confrontation that didn't work out in her favor. |
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He grabbed an arm with a clenched fist that was about to be swung at him. View Quote She was getting pushed around prior to that, and looks like he grabbed her left arm/elbow before she raised her right arm up. And how much do you think his family has had to shell out in legal fees so far in a desperate attempt to salvage his football career? I sure wouldn't want to go to trial with my hopes hinging on that video. Very costly foolishness. |
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