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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:39:38 AM EDT
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There's no fucking way nearly 1/2 of Hawaii owns firearms And there's no way only 19% of the people in Ohio own guns either.  If that was the case, we'd never have the fairly decent gun laws that we have now.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:40:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And those people are really honest with a random person asking them personal questions over the phone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-ownership-by-state-2015-7 Study of 4000 people.. So they called 80 people in each state and think those results are accurate?  And those people are really honest with a random person asking them personal questions over the phone. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:57:11 AM EDT
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Doesn't seem right. I'm willing to bet Alaskan gun ownership is in the mid to high 80% range. Even the liberals own guns up here.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:58:18 AM EDT
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lol bullshit Truth from the 13er. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:59:23 AM EDT
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Well, I am going to assume this graph is 100% accurate, because I read it on the interwebs. Let's take this walk down logic lane... Gun ownership is an indicator of conservatism. California has more guns than Nebraska. Hence, Nebraska is more liberal than LA. GO! Hawaii and New Mexico. Bastions of democratic voters. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:59:48 AM EDT
[#6]
I call bullshit. Montana should be 110%.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:01:13 AM EDT
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I'd be interested to see their data sources
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:08:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Percent that they know about anyway. Yep. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:09:19 AM EDT
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Guys...........the Business Insider is a known RABID LEFT WING ORGANIZATION.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:12:08 AM EDT
[#10]
Ohio needs to do some catching up.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:13:14 AM EDT
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I'm not sure how much trust I'd place in that. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:14:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF Nebraska?! |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:16:41 AM EDT
[#13]
That map is crap.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:21:08 AM EDT
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WTF Nebraska?! x2 |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:22:50 AM EDT
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Which only proves we have better OPSEC and PERSEC Quote HistoryQuoted:
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35% of Texas? Really? Which only proves we have better OPSEC and PERSEC Texans - world famous for keeping their mouths shut.  
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:38:33 AM EDT
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I'd be interested to see their data sources I'm thinking this is as made up as global warming data. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:40:29 AM EDT
[#17]
What percentage of the population, in general, are children?
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:42:56 AM EDT
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Why would anybody think that there was any accuracy to this what so ever ?
How did they arrive at these numbers ? Where did the information come from ? |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:47:39 AM EDT
[#19]
Ok now they should do a graph on who's more accurate.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:47:53 AM EDT
[#20]
80 people from each state is clearly enough to extrapolate to the whole population of the state.
What a shit fucking study. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:48:45 AM EDT
[#21]
The researchers used data from a 2013 online survey of 4,000 people over age 18 from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Participants were selected to be representative of the U.S. population as a whole. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-nearly-one-in-three-americans-owns-a-gun-2015-6#ixzz3f7BZ4FZy EL-OH-EL |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:50:09 AM EDT
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I'd like to see a study of IL without chitcago. I live downstate and know very few people who do not own a gun.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:50:52 AM EDT
[#23]
Come on Missouri, get your act together!
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:52:11 AM EDT
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Here's the link to the article: http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-ownership-by-state-2015-7
Here's the link to where they got their information: http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2015/06/09/injuryprev-2015-041586.full.pdf?keytype=ref&ijkey=doj6vx0laFZMsQ2 Notice this part: The prevalence of national gun ownership was 29.1% among the 4000 survey participants, varying from 5.2% in Delaware to 61.7% in Alaska (figure 3). Gun ownership was the lowest in Northeast states, while south US census-defined states had highest rates. The person who did the survey: Bindu Kalesan. She does papers and statistics for anti-gun sources. What she says about the survey here. (copied in caps, sorry) ANYONE FROM THE AGE OF 18 AND WE ASKED THEM GOOD GUN OWNERSHIP SO THEY ANSWERED THAT THEY OWN AT LEAST ONE GUN. YOU GOT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A QUESTION FOR EACH PERSON, NOT THE HOUSEHOLD SURVEY. SO THEY SAID YES TO GUN OWNERSHIP THAT THEY OWN AT LEAST ONE GUN THEN THEY WERE CLASSIFIED OR CATEGORIZED AS A GUN OWNER ETA: oops I see someone already touched on that. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:53:39 AM EDT
[#25]
I would like to know how they arrived at these percentages.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:55:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The map is from a very short article by Andy Kiersz and Brett LoGiurato, a couple of anti-gun leftists at the click-bait website, Business Insider . The data is from a study, Gun Ownership and Social Gun Culture, conducted by the equally anti-gun Bindu Kalesan and Marcos D Villarreal of the School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York and the School of Public Health, Boston University, Boston, MA. The full PDF of the "study" is here And FBHO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is that based on 4473`s or nicz or what? The map is from a very short article by Andy Kiersz and Brett LoGiurato, a couple of anti-gun leftists at the click-bait website, Business Insider . The researchers conducted the survey of 4,000 adults in an attempt to answer the question of how many Americans own a firearm — and why — amid a lack of overall data and statistics on gun ownership. They found a broad regional variation in gun ownership — from as low as near 5% in some areas to as much as 66% in others. In individual states, this ranged from 5.2% ownership in Delaware to 61.7% in Alaska. Here's a map illustrating their results: The data is from a study, Gun Ownership and Social Gun Culture, conducted by the equally anti-gun Bindu Kalesan and Marcos D Villarreal of the School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York and the School of Public Health, Boston University, Boston, MA. The full PDF of the "study" is here In their conclusion, the authors wrote that they found a "strong association between social gun culture and gun ownership. Gun cultures may need to be considered for public health strategies that aim to change gun ownership in the USA." And FBHO. IMHO, this is one of the ways they will end up attacking gun ownership in the US. Along with taxation of ammo and reloading components, onerous "safety" regulation of "hazardous materials" (lead and gunpowder) regarding reloading/ shooting and the required use of approved shooting ranges except for hunting, and changes to insurance and liability rules for insurance coverage associated with shooting ranges. This will drive up the costs of ownership for firearms owners, and run many (most?) shooting ranges out of business except for those who can attract those shooters who can afford to pay the outrageous membership fees. "Hey - we're just concerned with your safety, we aren't saying you can't own guns." |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:55:50 AM EDT
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I am proud of the 50% of Mountaineers' smart enough to tell them they don't own guns. Lots of boat wrecks in a state with no natural lakes.
I just need it for squirrels and sech. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:56:48 AM EDT
[#28]
Meh. I don't think it's accurate, but I'm not sweating it.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:57:51 AM EDT
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WTF Nebraska?! No shit. Looks like its on the wrong part of the map. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 8:58:24 AM EDT
[#30]
SC is a very gun friendly state. I seriously doubt we are under 50% ownership.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:01:15 AM EDT
[#31]
NH is definitely wrong.
Half the ownership rate as MA? No way. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:05:56 AM EDT
[#32]
Arizona has 239,259 CCW permits alone.
Population is 6.7million. How many are illegals? How many don't have a CCW in a state that doesn't require it? How many don't have one to start with? ETA: oh I see, it was a bullshit sample size |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:08:44 AM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:10:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think 87% of those percentages are bullshit. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:14:16 AM EDT
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I'd be interested to see their data sources A survey of 4000 people. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:15:24 AM EDT
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35% of Texas? Really? Texas is going liberal faster than any other state. For all the chest thumping, Texas is a coont hair from going blue. Take mexicans, and whorehouses out of the equation, and there wouldn't be much of a Texas. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:15:40 AM EDT
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WTF Nebraska?! x2 We are smart enough not to brag to a public health survey on about owning guns. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:16:46 AM EDT
[#38]
I'm 100% sure if you nuke NYC and the surrounding area, our numbers would vastly improve.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:17:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, something is fucked with those numbers... Nearly everyone I know has at least a shotgun or Fudd hunting rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For a landlocked state, it sure looks like Nebraska must have a lot of "boating" accidents. Yeah, something is fucked with those numbers... Nearly everyone I know has at least a shotgun or Fudd hunting rifle. Neb. and KS. I'm smelling something fishy. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:18:34 AM EDT
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Percent that they know about anyway. This. From my experience, someone in Arizona is not telling the truth!
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:19:15 AM EDT
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Every single gun owner I know would never provide that information to a poll taker.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:19:30 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And those people are really honest with a random person asking them personal questions over the phone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-ownership-by-state-2015-7 Study of 4000 people.. So they called 80 people in each state and think those results are accurate? And those people are really honest with a random person asking them personal questions over the phone. Especially about firearms! |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:20:43 AM EDT
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22% in MA while only 14% in NH?
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:22:45 AM EDT
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Is that based on 4473`s or nicz or what? I would assume it was a survey and a very small sampling. I would also assume most people when asked if they "own" a gun they probably only indicated they have a small amount or they didn't own any at all. I would bet that the percentages are much higher including in highly restrictive states. I for one would say I do not own guns simply because I don't know the person on the other side of the phone, you know social engineering and all. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:23:16 AM EDT
[#45]
NY......
No wonder. 
ETA: yeah.....Big lies, White lies, and statistics.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:26:37 AM EDT
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Who the fuck answers the phone if you don't know the number? Obviously not very many Nebraska gun owners.
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:28:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF Nebraska?! |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:28:46 AM EDT
[#48]
double that at minimum for okla...
everyone i know has at least one EVERYONE |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:29:04 AM EDT
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Texas is going liberal faster than any other state. For all the chest thumping, Texas is a coont hair from going blue. Take mexicans, and whorehouses out of the equation, and there wouldn't be much of a Texas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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35% of Texas? Really? Texas is going liberal faster than any other state. For all the chest thumping, Texas is a coont hair from going blue. Take mexicans, and whorehouses out of the equation, and there wouldn't be much of a Texas. Huh? Texas is going further to the right. Maybe in 20 years when Cali has finally emptied into Austin and Dallas. Texas is still very rural and they vote overwhelmingly republican, now that being said republican really doesn't mean what it ment 20 or so years ago. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:31:25 AM EDT
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If that poll excluded Hi Points, many states would plummet.
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