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Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:27:11 PM EDT
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  How does it fuck up your life?
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It's attitudes. Most men THINK they would have loved it (and to be honest most probably would have) but it fucks up your life. That is the point I am trying to make

  How does it fuck up your life?
I have a hard time wrapping that one around my head.


While it in no way fucked up my life what happened was still wrong.
It is wrong for a woman in a position of authority to have sex with those she is responsible for.
What I and OP are trying to say is that banging a teacher is not what it is cracked up to be.
It's not like in porn where you dump your load on her face and never see her again, you're usually stuck with her for a while.
The women that do this are mental they seek young boys out because they have problems and are trying to solve them.
They think that having sex with these boys and pressuring them will fix what ever issues they have.
They do it to young boys and not men their age because they are much more easier to manipulate.
They are indeed predators. Being manipulated and abused that way could mess up those that are weaker minded.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:27:20 PM EDT
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I don't understand the porn addiction thing either. I don't think this episode "made" him a porn addict all on its own.

I agree with sdboy that his religion may have made things worse. I'm not putting down his religion, I'm just saying. They should have nipped the guilt in the bud. I think the guilt is what messed him up most of all.

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Hard to say.  Over-sexualize a young man and when the source is cut off he'll likely turn to other outlets.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:34:53 PM EDT
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OP, I'd love to weigh in with you on equal punishment for female sex offenders, but I've spent all day in discussion with the ethically handicapped who thing there's nothing wrong with female teachers banging their underage students, and I need to get started on dinner.  Maybe next time.  Good luck.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:47:12 PM EDT
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Eyes can rape too. Get with the program.

Sorry for your friend OP.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:49:31 PM EDT
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Tragic story.

Sorry for you and your friend...
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:51:48 PM EDT
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Bullshit , maybe if "he" was being tied up choked and strange things being crammed up his ass it was abuse but other than than it was just sex !

ETA: 99.9% of normal red blooed young boys would love to be in that situation she just picked the .01% that didn't.
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Look , I banged many "much" older women when I was between 14 and 18 !  Maybe they thought it was a predator/pray thing for them but I didn't care one freaking bit , I was getting my freak on and loved every second of it.



yea, but there's a difference between banging an older lady and being abused by an older lady.



Bullshit , maybe if "he" was being tied up choked and strange things being crammed up his ass it was abuse but other than than it was just sex !

ETA: 99.9% of normal red blooed young boys would love to be in that situation she just picked the .01% that didn't.



that's my point. there's a difference between just banging a woman when you're a teen, and being abused by one.  the main part where you are wrong is numbers. a lot of boys who are assaulted dont tell people, or if its found out, they lie to their friends and claim consensual to show a sense of manliness or to convey that they conquered the woman, spinning the assault into a conquest that their peers could only dream of.

running to police, crying rape, even going to a therapist is seen as being weak, and the disparity of treatment between women and male abusers just reinforce the ideas of talking to police just not worth it. tie it in with thoughts of, "well i got hard, and i ejaculated, so I must have liked it" slowly eating away at their mind victims can block out the trauma as a defense mechanism.

just look at the numbers of men and boys who do come forward after being tied up, sodomized, etc. they wait sometimes their lives before telling someone because of the shame they fear if someone found out. you really think that an assault with out that level of depravity wouldn't have the same effect?  

lump all of this social stigma into religious beliefs and its a much harder world for men who are victims. there are no support groups, society laughs at them, the legal system doesn't take them seriously. it makes the entire situation much harder to handle.




Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:52:46 PM EDT
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Eyes can rape too. Get with the program.

Sorry for your friend OP.
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Eyes can rape too. Get with the program.

Sorry for your friend OP.



the eyes are just an extension of the penis duh.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:54:02 PM EDT
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Interesting read.
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No shit. I tried to read it but had to default to OPs, TL;DR. Then I feel guilt for not being more compassionate then that turns to anger. Now I have to drink. Fuck.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 4:58:31 PM EDT
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I skimmed through the text. I need cliff notes.

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It's not cool when a woman in a position of authority fucks those she is responsible for.
It can fuck some people's lives up. GD needs to get over their hot teacher fantasy.
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friend gets abused by friends mom, what she did should have been a felony, got off with a misd and a month in jail. friend is all fucked up from it because of the usual issues that arise from being raped.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:15:08 PM EDT
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In the Mormon world, you look at a sports illustrated once, you have a porn addiction.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:16:59 PM EDT
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Where the fuck was all this " Women/Female Teachers taking advantage of boys" shit when i was young?
 
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Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:19:52 PM EDT
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Where the fuck was all this " Women/Female Teachers taking advantage of boys" shit when i was young?  
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It happened it just wasn't as easy to hear about.
It happens a lot more than it is reported also.
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Agree completely

Hell i was only friends with one kid growing up cause his mom was hot...just saying
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:20:51 PM EDT
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This thread is relatively easy to masturbate to.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:22:36 PM EDT
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That's what the headline would have read. But, thankfully there was no story.

TL;DR: My best friend growing up was abused by our mutual friends mother. It has totally screwed up his life. We were all around 16-17 yrs old. Most of our peers who knew said he must have been consenting.

What follows is a paper I wrote for a college class. Hopefully this may shed a different perspective on these kind of situations. To those who say, "Man why couldn't I have had a teacher come on to me?" and are serious, I would ask you take some time to explore the consequences in the real world.

Few disclaimers - names have been changed, certain details as well.




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Why does that matter?
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:30:06 PM EDT
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In the Mormon world, you look at a sports illustrated once, you have a porn addiction.
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A bit of an exaggeration, but it is true that in the LDS community there is a very low tolerance for pornography usage.  My wife has had multiple cousins who divorced their husbands for what they viewed as a, "pornography problem."
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:40:17 PM EDT
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It's attitudes. Most men THINK they would have loved it (and to be honest most probably would have) but it fucks up your life. That is the point I am trying to make

  How does it fuck up your life?
I have a hard time wrapping that one around my head.



This.  Whatever happened between your friend and a middle aged woman, was a long time ago.  She isn't showing up on his doorstep today, is she?

Every day has the potential to be a step down a better path than that which we trod yesterday, all that needs to be done is to take responsibility for yourself and your behavior, make good decisions, and have the fortitude to roll with the punches.  Every day spent eschewing that in favor of wallowing in your own past shit and blaming others is a day wasted.  

Just my opinion.

ETA: Why does shit like this always have a religious component?
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:43:47 PM EDT
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You're absolutely right. Problem is, most 16-17 year old's in that moment are probably going to think with their penis and not resist. But, those women are just as predatory and sick as the men who prey on girls.



Just sad.

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I think it has a lot to do with sexual parts...



It is a lot easier for a man to hold a woman down and force sex as opposed to the other way around which is usually accomplished by taking advantage physiologically. Which has more disgust factor in society's eyes?





I am not saying it's right







You're absolutely right. Problem is, most 16-17 year old's in that moment are probably going to think with their penis and not resist. But, those women are just as predatory and sick as the men who prey on girls.



Just sad.

I'm almost 40 and still think with my penis

 
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This.  Whatever happened between your friend and a middle aged woman, was a long time ago.  She isn't showing up on his doorstep today, is she?

Every day has the potential to be a step down a better path than that which we trod yesterday, all that needs to be done is to take responsibility for yourself and your behavior, make good decisions, and have the fortitude to roll with the punches.  Every day spent eschewing that in favor of wallowing in your own past shit and blaming others is a day wasted.  

Just my opinion.

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It's attitudes. Most men THINK they would have loved it (and to be honest most probably would have) but it fucks up your life. That is the point I am trying to make

  How does it fuck up your life?
I have a hard time wrapping that one around my head.



This.  Whatever happened between your friend and a middle aged woman, was a long time ago.  She isn't showing up on his doorstep today, is she?

Every day has the potential to be a step down a better path than that which we trod yesterday, all that needs to be done is to take responsibility for yourself and your behavior, make good decisions, and have the fortitude to roll with the punches.  Every day spent eschewing that in favor of wallowing in your own past shit and blaming others is a day wasted.  

Just my opinion.

ETA: Why does shit like this always have a religious component?


Maybe because most Americans are religious.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:45:11 PM EDT
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Not my circus, not my monkey.
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:45:32 PM EDT
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That's what the headline would have read. But, thankfully there was no story.

TL;DR: My best friend growing up was abused by our mutual friends mother. It has totally screwed up his life. We were all around 16-17 yrs old. Most of our peers who knew said he must have been consenting.

What follows is a paper I wrote for a college class. Hopefully this may shed a different perspective on these kind of situations. To those who say, "Man why couldn't I have had a teacher come on to me?" and are serious, I would ask you take some time to explore the consequences in the real world.

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Did the original paper have an abundance of random carriage returns as well or was it a WOT?  Why you hate your TA?
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 5:48:19 PM EDT
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This.

We need pics to decide if guilty or not.

BTW, your friend is a homo, and in before my abused friend turned out to be homo and made a move on me thread
Link Posted: 7/5/2015 6:04:05 PM EDT
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Hmmm your friend was fcked long before this apparently. The strong survive Darwin etc. etc. etc. Not that I disagree about the sentence disparities but seriously? And before you give me shit your friend ain't got nothing on me as far as abuse but I'm not a total pussy and I put that shit behind me where it belongs. Your post sux and you should feel bad
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The problem for this kid is that -even though he knew it was wrong, and she was the adult and could have ended it- it probably did feel impossible to tell her "no."

It is the psychological element that hurts him today. He probably initially did not want to tell her no because she was a friends mom, and he liked his friend.

Then when he was into it, he did not want to hurt her, or tell the Police and get her into trouble.

That is psychologically tough.

Then there is the element that even though he knew it was wrong, and he was manipulated, he was "wanting" the parts of the relationship that felt good.

It was probably very psychologically devastating to him...

And... For most well-adjusted adults, they don't just jump in the deep end, sexually. Most well-adjusted adults in productive relationships start a relationship, become friends, establish boundaries, fall into more than friendship, get married (or not) then have sex. Those steps might go quicker in some cases... But well-adjusted adults *usually* have a relationship, establish boundaries, feel each other out emotionally, then have sex...

That is how it goes for most people who are appropriately adjusted, emotionally...

Their pathway to a sexual relationship in a successful long-term relationship more-often-than-not took a path to get to the sex...

Yeah, there are exceptions to the rule. But generally speaking, sex on the first date is not super-common in successful marriages and relationships... The truth is that well-adjusted adults do not have sex with everything that walks-by, and their sexual relationships are usually mutually satisfying, and mutually beneficial to both parties... And in most cases, there was an established positive relationship prior to the relationship becoming sexual.

In this kids case, he jumped in the deep end with no life preserver.

That is what happened here.

He jumped in the deep end having no prior experience, and an un-equal relationship with his partner.

That is jacked-up psychologically... No matter how you look at it, that is jacked-up...

As for the pornography aspect. He probably did like some aspects of jumping in the deep end. It was probably hard for him to reconcile, in his head... But she jacked with this kids head. No other way to look at it.

Pornography is bad, in LDS theology... In LDS theology, pornography can lead to bad habits and behaviors... In the case of this kid... He was jacked-up psychologically, sexually speaking, from his first encounter with sex... I imagine they are not referring to gals in swimming trunks from the story...
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Lol. I get it can cause issues with some. Life sucks. And then you die.
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Look , I banged many "much" older women when I was between 14 and 18 !  Maybe they thought it was a predator/pray thing for them but I didn't care one freaking bit , I was getting my freak on and loved every second of it.
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yea, but there's a difference between banging an older lady and being abused by an older lady.
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Why is it more abuse happens at the hands of ugly old women and it's more likely to be consensual at the hands of a "not guilty" 22 year old?

This makes no sense. At all.

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It's attitudes. Most men THINK they would have loved it (and to be honest most probably would have) but it fucks up your life. That is the point I am trying to make
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Not always man.  OP's story is nothing more then a case of two mentally ill people engaging in a fucked up relationship and second mentally ill person (The Juvenile male) now has an excuse/crutch for his continuing mental illness.  Lets be real here. Humans are nothing more then animals. We are the most intelligent animals, but we still have the same basic primal instincts. The whole argument over whats right and wrong, religion, etc. is whats screwing with people who feel guilty over sexual encounters


The reality of the situation is woman makes penis erect. You place said penis in mouth, vagina, or even anus. Continue till orgasm. Then you clean up.  Having some kind of BS lifelong commitment (I think marriage is BS), emotional connection, or anything else is just extra. We have a sex drive (be thankful if its a high one). We are designed to have sex. Think on the rights/wrongs too much and your just adding unnecessary stress/tension in your life on whats supposed to be a pleasurable experience. People/society places entirely too high of an emphasis on the emotional/spiritual side of it when in reality its just base instinct.




I was raised in an extremely religious house-hold (and all my friends were as well) and just lol if you don't think at 10 years old I wasn't fooling around with my female friends who were around the same age (and parents thought we were super innocent). For as long as I can remember I wanted to bang my buddies mom. Never happened but I wish it would have.   Also doesn't mean I didn't fool around with older teenage girls when I was relatively young.

Another thing I've learned is the more religious someone is raised/ the more sexually repressed. The more likely they are going to turn into an absolute freak once they get older/get a little bit of freedom.





So yes I think an older female who bangs a younger guy is probably jacked up in the head. But I also don't think it causes some kind of mental illness or anything with the male. (I can speak from firsthand experience). Some people are going to be jacked up regardless. Some people are going to be fine regardless.  Almost everyone of my friends growing up had a thing for 'milfs'. If I could have chosen a women in her 30s VS a female my own age I'd have went with the older women every friggin time.


Link Posted: 7/5/2015 6:51:06 PM EDT
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An interesting read and I suppose it points out some things I'd never really thought about. You should re-post in Team for some honest dialogue and to weed out the mouth-breathers. Thanks for posting!
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Agree OP interesting read. I hope we can all get out of the juvenile "wish I coulda banged her shit" and stop allowing this feminist bullshit to persist.
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Sorry I didn't read past the thread title.  But can't fathom a teen male being traumatized by a sexual encounter with a female.
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If we are all equal we should be equal in sentencing, divorce, etc. If we are not equal we should celebrate the differences and appreciate them.
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Yeah, not reading that shit. Punctuation, the OP does not has it.
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Women r crazy.
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I attempted to read....but damn.....space the shit out a little..


That gave me a head ache.

 
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OP didn't post anything I didn't already know.

And, as usual, GD never fails to disappoint.

It seems that at lest 50% of ARFCOM is incapable of thinking with anything other than their penis.  And they wonder why we think they're all liberals.  
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Huge bunch of GodDamned hypocrites.
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You like several others here proved you are incapable of not thinking with your dick in a situation like this.
You failed to realize the point and what makes encounters like this wrong.
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