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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:05:04 PM EDT
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Probably had his hands full, worried about drunken boaters big ass great white sharks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before the guy ranting about "rich guys" and their "elitist toys" who should kill themselves by ditching in the water. 
IIRC that was quite a purse-swinging thread a while back. First thing I thought of seeing the thread title. But it's the democrat "them" who practice class warfare. I never practiced class warfare, I said that this dude's hobby, which it is, shouldn't cost other people's lives. He should have bitten the bullet and augured in. But, the dude was a pussy and decided to roll the dice with other people's lives. It came up craps for these two: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4142ff6b2a4903ce5712e72dd5bf2e49dcb1cae6/c=0-387-960-1110&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WTSP/WTSP/2014/07/29/1406644329000-irizarry.JPG So again, fuck that dude. Probably had his hands full, worried about drunken boaters big ass great white sharks.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:05:49 PM EDT
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Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel.  Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Proving once again that education is no substitute for experience. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? OK, you tell me the main causes of an engine power out. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:06:08 PM EDT
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You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? Well he's right sort of. Keeping clean fuel in your tanks probably would cut out 50% or more piston aircraft engine stoppages. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:06:33 PM EDT
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I never practiced class warfare, I said that this dude's hobby, which it is, shouldn't cost other people's lives. He should have bitten the bullet and augured in. But, the dude was a pussy and decided to roll the dice with other people's lives. It came up craps for these two: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4142ff6b2a4903ce5712e72dd5bf2e49dcb1cae6/c=0-387-960-1110&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WTSP/WTSP/2014/07/29/1406644329000-irizarry.JPG So again, fuck that dude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before the guy ranting about "rich guys" and their "elitist toys" who should kill themselves by ditching in the water.
IIRC that was quite a purse-swinging thread a while back. First thing I thought of seeing the thread title. But it's the democrat "them" who practice class warfare. I never practiced class warfare, I said that this dude's hobby, which it is, shouldn't cost other people's lives. He should have bitten the bullet and augured in. But, the dude was a pussy and decided to roll the dice with other people's lives. It came up craps for these two: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4142ff6b2a4903ce5712e72dd5bf2e49dcb1cae6/c=0-387-960-1110&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WTSP/WTSP/2014/07/29/1406644329000-irizarry.JPG So again, fuck that dude. You should remember this when you're driving your car, or fly, or when you do anything. I hope you do. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:08:24 PM EDT
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Proving once again that education is no substitute for experience. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Proving once again that education is no substitute for experience. "An education doesn't mean that you're smart." |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:09:49 PM EDT
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OK, you tell me the main causes of an engine power out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? OK, you tell me the main causes of an engine power out. That's not what you said. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:10:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Proving once again that education is no substitute for experience. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Proving once again that education is no substitute for experience. While I don't have a pilots license I have over 10,000 hours as a crewman in Military aircraft. In addition to that I also have countless hours of working on military aircraft. With that, I have a degree in Aviation Maintenance Management and my A&P. You tell me based on your experience of how many times you have lost power while in flight and crashed what the cause of the loss of power was. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Thrown piston, Bent rod Fouled plugs Fcu/carborator failure Magneto/harness failure Catastrofic oil loss Should I go on? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:11:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:13:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not what you said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? OK, you tell me the main causes of an engine power out. That's not what you said. Really? Really? You want to try that again? What I wrote: "Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel." What do you think I wrote? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:15:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "An education doesn't mean that you're smart." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By Proving once again that education is no substitute for experience. "An education doesn't mean that you're smart." |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:16:36 PM EDT
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The reason I was pissed because I can see myself and my daughter playing the surf, so I can relate. The other reason I was pissed is the pilot thought he could thread the needle between groups of people on the beach instead of ditching. Why didn't he ditch in the water? He was scared the plane would flip and his life would be in danger. So, he decided to put other people's lives in danger. Which is bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First, I'm not hunting shit down on my phone, second, the initial report put them in the water third, let's find the actual ntsb report and not a news blurb. Now if all the initial info was wrong, I am big enough to admit I was wrong. However, 2 things remain, first, shit happens and once physics take over your just along for the ride. Second, why should I be emotionally wrapped up in the 2 that died and why are you? People die every day, I don't have the time, energy or desire to care past a simple "Huh, that suck but whatever." About 2 people, 3000 miles away, that I have never met (fuck, I don't even put any thought into family I never met). Like I said, in just going off memory and am willing to admit I'm wrong beach vs. water, but shit still happens and I still don't care. More importantly, I'm not going to turn an offhand comment into another multi page fight. The reason I was pissed because I can see myself and my daughter playing the surf, so I can relate. The other reason I was pissed is the pilot thought he could thread the needle between groups of people on the beach instead of ditching. Why didn't he ditch in the water? He was scared the plane would flip and his life would be in danger. So, he decided to put other people's lives in danger. Which is bullshit. I like swimming and boating in the water. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:17:35 PM EDT
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Am I the only one that caught the guy yelling "allah akbar" at 1:36 in the yahoo.com video????
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:20:31 PM EDT
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? OK, you tell me the main causes of an engine power out. That's not what you said. Some people hate it when you quote exactly what they said, as it makes it hard for them to deny ever saying it. KA3B (who's usually really good at aircraft threads) stated that there is only two reasons for engines to stop: 1) Contaminated fuel. 2) Fuel Exhaustion (no fuel). ske714 then insinuates that KA3B's statement is incorrect. Alluding that there is any manner of mechanical and electrical faults and failures that could cause an engine to stop. KA3B reply insinuates that he believes this isn't true. ske714, is the aircraft type in your avatar the same as that in the video accident? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:22:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Proving once again that education is no substitute for experience. "An education doesn't mean that you're smart." I derp all the time. I will unabashedly admit that. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:22:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative. Thrown piston, Bent rod Fouled plugs Fcu/carborator failure Magneto/harness failure Catastrofic oil loss Should I go on? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Thrown piston, Bent rod Fouled plugs Fcu/carborator failure Magneto/harness failure Catastrofic oil loss Should I go on? Small aviation aircraft engines are very reliable these days. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:22:47 PM EDT
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Really? Really? You want to try that again? What I wrote: "Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel." What do you think I wrote?
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? OK, you tell me the main causes of an engine power out. That's not what you said. Really? Really? You want to try that again? What I wrote: "Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel." What do you think I wrote?
There is a significant difference between "Really only two reasons", and "the main causes". There are many reasons, not only two. Without knowing the facts, each is as likely as the next. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:23:29 PM EDT
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Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Then speak accurately. Those are the two most common causes. Far from the only causes. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:23:55 PM EDT
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While I don't have a pilots license; I have over 10,000 hours as a crewman in Military aircraft. You tell me based on your experience of how many times you have lost power while in flight and crashed what the cause of the loss of power was. How many times have you? Based on your experience. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:26:58 PM EDT
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Source I can't see the video but I have to question landing on a beach with lots of people around. Mayhaps you should watch |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:27:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Small aviation aircraft engines are very reliable these days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Thrown piston, Bent rod Fouled plugs Fcu/carborator failure Magneto/harness failure Catastrofic oil loss Should I go on? Small aviation aircraft engines are very reliable these days. I almost had to put down in a swamp about a month ago because my 71 Cardinal got a fouled plug in cruise and felt like it was shaking the plane apart. Luckily it cleared itself up and I continued the flight. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:28:35 PM EDT
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ske714, is the aircraft type in your avatar the same as that in the video accident? I thought so at first, but when it flipped over, it looked like bungee landing gear, and it has flaps. Super Cub, maybe. Mine's a Champ. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:29:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:29:52 PM EDT
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How many times have you? Based on your experience. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While I don't have a pilots license; I have over 10,000 hours as a crewman in Military aircraft. You tell me based on your experience of how many times you have lost power while in flight and crashed what the cause of the loss of power was. How many times have you? Based on your experience. You're not asking the right question. More accurately we should specify that he should only include experience in light GA aircraft. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:32:24 PM EDT
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Negative. Thrown piston, Bent rod Fouled plugs Fcu/carborator failure Magneto/harness failure Catastrofic oil loss Should I go on? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Thrown piston, Bent rod Fouled plugs Fcu/carborator failure Magneto/harness failure Catastrofic oil loss Should I go on? Pilot error. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:33:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some people hate it when you quote exactly what they said, as it makes it hard for them to deny ever saying it. KA3B (who's usually really good at aircraft threads) stated that there is only two reasons for engines to stop: 1) Contaminated fuel. 2) Fuel Exhaustion (no fuel). ske714 then insinuates that KA3B's statement is incorrect. Alluding that there is any manner of mechanical and electrical faults and failures that could cause an engine to stop. KA3B reply insinuates that he believes this isn't true. ske714, is the aircraft type in your avatar the same as that in the video accident? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. You want to stick with that, or would you like to double down and add some more derp? OK, you tell me the main causes of an engine power out. That's not what you said. Some people hate it when you quote exactly what they said, as it makes it hard for them to deny ever saying it. KA3B (who's usually really good at aircraft threads) stated that there is only two reasons for engines to stop: 1) Contaminated fuel. 2) Fuel Exhaustion (no fuel). ske714 then insinuates that KA3B's statement is incorrect. Alluding that there is any manner of mechanical and electrical faults and failures that could cause an engine to stop. KA3B reply insinuates that he believes this isn't true. ske714, is the aircraft type in your avatar the same as that in the video accident? I used the word "really" as in there really isn't a better rifle than an AR15 or there really isn't a connection between Bush and the weather machine. Of course there are other causes of small light civil aircraft crashes or mishaps, pilot error, pilot error, pilot error, cheap-assed pilots, shoddy / shady FBO maintenance, the list goes on. Sometimes there's no real apparent cause in the preliminary stateg of the accident investigation (like that plane that crashed in Florida on top of the father and daughter). http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20140727X14613&key=1 I'll be glad to own any derp when I am wrong, I have no problem with it. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:34:44 PM EDT
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Thrown piston, Bent rod Fouled plugs Fcu/carborator failure Magneto/harness failure Catastrofic oil loss Should I go on? Small aviation aircraft engines are very reliable these days. The basic designs have not changed in about 70 years. There is no difference between "these days" and any others. Most are fuel injected now, but that's about it. As I said, that looks like a Super Cup. It's engine may well be 65 years old. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:34:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many times have you? Based on your experience. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While I don't have a pilots license; I have over 10,000 hours as a crewman in Military aircraft. You tell me based on your experience of how many times you have lost power while in flight and crashed what the cause of the loss of power was. How many times have you? Based on your experience. None, I already said that.  |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:34:56 PM EDT
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While I don't have a pilots license; I have over 10,000 hours as a crewman in Military aircraft. You tell me based on your experience of how many times you have lost power while in flight and crashed what the cause of the loss of power was. How many times have you? Based on your experience. You're not asking the right question. More accurately we should specify that he should only include experience in light GA aircraft. I can search the military aircraft accident database. ETA: We had a member here who posted his story of piloting an F-4 which landed wheels-up on the runway. The official military account is actually pretty good. At least what was included in the accident report. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:37:06 PM EDT
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It's like some kind of fucked up sewing circle up in here. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:40:20 PM EDT
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Sometimes there's no real apparent cause in the preliminary stateg of the accident investigation (like that plane that crashed in Florida on top of the father and daughter). http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20140727X14613&key=1 I'll be glad to own any derp when I am wrong, I have no problem with it. Carb Ice. The conditions were perfect in the Fl. case, and I would bet the same in this one. ETA: "Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel." Since there was fuel in the Florida plane, and no contamination found, you are the proud owner of derp. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:41:32 PM EDT
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Since I missed the last thread on this subject I would like to know which one of GD's bright lights insinuated that flying was only for elitists.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:41:49 PM EDT
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Snip As I said, that looks like a Super Cup. It's engine may well be 65 years old. And the pilot may well be too.
Jeeze- this was no "tragedy". Injuries were minor. If half the people on the beach had been shouting warnings instead of screaming like little bitches, there might have been no injuries at all. And if the guy had ditched a cub in the ocean, he's probably be dead. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:42:34 PM EDT
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If that was my son , I would dragged that pilot out of the plane and punch him in his face. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:51:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:26:20 PM EDT
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IIRC that was quite a purse-swinging thread a while back. First thing I thought of seeing the thread title. But it's the democrat "them" who practice class warfare. I never practiced class warfare, I said that this dude's hobby, which it is, shouldn't cost other people's lives. He should have bitten the bullet and augured in. But, the dude was a pussy and decided to roll the dice with other people's lives. It came up craps for these two: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4142ff6b2a4903ce5712e72dd5bf2e49dcb1cae6/c=0-387-960-1110&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WTSP/WTSP/2014/07/29/1406644329000-irizarry.JPG So again, fuck that dude. You going to address the inconvenient truth posted by ske a few posts up? What, that they were in the water? When have I ever disputed that? He told investigators that he thought a water landing might cause the plane to flip due to its heavy landing gear, so he headed for the beach. He saw groups of people and tried to navigate around them, he said, aiming for a spot he thought was empty. http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/ntsb-releases-initial-report-on-plane-crash-near-venice-that-killed-two/2192985 So the pilot saw people on the beach and still thought it'd be a good idea to set down there. Right? Because if he ditched he'd be in trouble. Can't have that. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:34:44 PM EDT
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He told investigators that he thought a water landing might cause the plane to flip due to its heavy landing gear, so he headed for the beach. He saw groups of people and tried to navigate around them, he said, aiming for a spot he thought was empty. http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/ntsb-releases-initial-report-on-plane-crash-near-venice-that-killed-two/2192985 So the pilot saw people on the beach and still thought it'd be a good idea to set down there. Right? Because if he ditched he'd be in trouble. Can't have that. You should quit relying on news media interpretations of the NTSB report and actually read it. This is wat it says... "The pilot declared an emergency on the radio and began the forced landing descent. The airplane was over the water at the time, and the pilot was concerned that if he landed in deep water, the fixed landing gear airplane would flip over. The pilot saw groups of people along the beach, and attempted navigated around them. He then aimed for a spot where he thought there were no people, and landed in the water near the shoreline." |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:42:19 PM EDT
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What, that they were in the water? When have I ever disputed that? http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/ntsb-releases-initial-report-on-plane-crash-near-venice-that-killed-two/2192985 So the pilot saw people on the beach and still thought it'd be a good idea to set down there. Right? Because if he ditched he'd be in trouble. Can't have that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never practiced class warfare, I said that this dude's hobby, which it is, shouldn't cost other people's lives. He should have bitten the bullet and augured in. But, the dude was a pussy and decided to roll the dice with other people's lives. It came up craps for these two: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4142ff6b2a4903ce5712e72dd5bf2e49dcb1cae6/c=0-387-960-1110&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WTSP/WTSP/2014/07/29/1406644329000-irizarry.JPG So again, fuck that dude. You going to address the inconvenient truth posted by ske a few posts up? What, that they were in the water? When have I ever disputed that? He told investigators that he thought a water landing might cause the plane to flip due to its heavy landing gear, so he headed for the beach. He saw groups of people and tried to navigate around them, he said, aiming for a spot he thought was empty. http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/ntsb-releases-initial-report-on-plane-crash-near-venice-that-killed-two/2192985 So the pilot saw people on the beach and still thought it'd be a good idea to set down there. Right? Because if he ditched he'd be in trouble. Can't have that. "The pilot saw groups of people along the beach, and attempted navigated around them. He then aimed for a spot where he thought there were no people, and landed in the water near the shoreline." |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:43:12 PM EDT
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You should quit relying on news media interpretations of the NTSB report and actually read it. This is wat it says... "The pilot declared an emergency on the radio and began the forced landing descent. The airplane was over the water at the time, and the pilot was concerned that if he landed in deep water, the fixed landing gear airplane would flip over. The pilot saw groups of people along the beach, and attempted navigated around them. He then aimed for a spot where he thought there were no people, and landed in the water near the shoreline." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He told investigators that he thought a water landing might cause the plane to flip due to its heavy landing gear, so he headed for the beach. He saw groups of people and tried to navigate around them, he said, aiming for a spot he thought was empty. http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/ntsb-releases-initial-report-on-plane-crash-near-venice-that-killed-two/2192985 So the pilot saw people on the beach and still thought it'd be a good idea to set down there. Right? Because if he ditched he'd be in trouble. Can't have that. You should quit relying on news media interpretations of the NTSB report and actually read it. This is wat it says... "The pilot declared an emergency on the radio and began the forced landing descent. The airplane was over the water at the time, and the pilot was concerned that if he landed in deep water, the fixed landing gear airplane would flip over. The pilot saw groups of people along the beach, and attempted navigated around them. He then aimed for a spot where he thought there were no people, and landed in the water near the shoreline." Uh, that proves my point? Deep water would put his precious life at risk, but instead, with a crowded beach he'd just have to risk it. I when I say risk it, it means the lives of the poor schmucks on the ground. Too bad, so sad. As long as he goes home safe, amirite? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:54:25 PM EDT
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If that was my son , I would dragged that pilot out of the plane and punch him in his face.
Tough guy. The pilot doesn't have much of a choice at that point. In case you didn't notice that heavy bounce he took, that was because he had no more lift. He wasn't steering away from shit. A konk on the head for the child sucks, But shit happens and it damn sure beats the alternative. I'm sure the pilot meant to do it. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:00:27 PM EDT
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I never practiced class warfare, I said that this dude's hobby, which it is, shouldn't cost other people's lives. He should have bitten the bullet and augured in. But, the dude was a pussy and decided to roll the dice with other people's lives. It came up craps for these two: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4142ff6b2a4903ce5712e72dd5bf2e49dcb1cae6/c=0-387-960-1110&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WTSP/WTSP/2014/07/29/1406644329000-irizarry.JPG So again, fuck that dude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before the guy ranting about "rich guys" and their "elitist toys" who should kill themselves by ditching in the water.
IIRC that was quite a purse-swinging thread a while back. First thing I thought of seeing the thread title. But it's the democrat "them" who practice class warfare. I never practiced class warfare, I said that this dude's hobby, which it is, shouldn't cost other people's lives. He should have bitten the bullet and augured in. But, the dude was a pussy and decided to roll the dice with other people's lives. It came up craps for these two: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4142ff6b2a4903ce5712e72dd5bf2e49dcb1cae6/c=0-387-960-1110&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WTSP/WTSP/2014/07/29/1406644329000-irizarry.JPG So again, fuck that dude. Do you fly? I agree, The thought would cross my mind "IF" I knew that there was someone in my path to put it in the drink. Every thing happens fast, You look around for a safe spot, sometimes you have less than a second or two, sometimes more. Combine that with the fact you have little to no visibility below and ahead of the plane once you are committed to the landing. He may have never saw them. Sad as it is, Life is not fair. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:01:46 PM EDT
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Wow, really? YEAH! Cause there are NEVER any mechanical problems with a machine that uses thousands of individual pieces! You should know that! |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:04:14 PM EDT
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Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Yes, really. You should look at the statistics of aircraft crashes, especially light civil aircraft crashes. It was covered in the light civil portion of my aviation management classes. I know it doesn't apply in this case, but in most cases when a plane crashes and there's no fire then it was out of gas. Yes, A majority of GA crashes are fuel or fuel system crashes, Probably followed by pilot inexperience or incompetence. And then you have mechanical problems. That make more than just those two issues. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:11:19 PM EDT
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http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/ntsb-releases-initial-report-on-plane-crash-near-venice-that-killed-two/2192985 So the pilot saw people on the beach and still thought it'd be a good idea to set down there. Right? Because if he ditched he'd be in trouble. Can't have that. You are still quoting news articles. Read the NTSB report. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:12:02 PM EDT
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YEAH! Cause there are NEVER any mechanical problems with a machine that uses thousands of individual pieces! You should know that! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really only two reasons why an engine "loses power", contaminated fuel or no fuel. Wow, really? YEAH! Cause there are NEVER any mechanical problems with a machine that uses thousands of individual pieces! You should know that! Yeah, I knew that oil analysis was a scam. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:19:00 PM EDT
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Pilots are assholes and non pilots are morons.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:22:06 PM EDT
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Thread summery.... Pilots are assholes and non pilots are morons.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:22:54 PM EDT
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Thread summery.... Pilots are assholes and non pilots are morons.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:23:26 PM EDT
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Yeah, look how deep the water is! http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_fl_plane_crash_140727_16x9_992.jpg
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In before the guy ranting about "rich guys" and their "elitist toys" who should kill themselves by ditching in the water.
IIRC that was quite a purse-swinging thread a while back. It's a no win with GD, in that thread he ditched in the water and killed someone. Yeah, look how deep the water is! http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_fl_plane_crash_140727_16x9_992.jpg
Fuck Kokomoor and RIP to Ommy and Oceana. Yep, last year not far from here. Tragic. IIRC the FAA eventually cleared him. I think they stated he did follow proper emergency procedures and he never saw the victims walking on the beach. I have no idea what really happened but it was tragic indeed. At the very least I hope the pilot never flies again. |
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