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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:00:51 AM EDT
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I'm no fan of the Russians, but I can see where they'd be pissed. The Russians didn't liberate Poland. They invaded it in partnership with the Germans. How many German war memorials are there in France and Belgium? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:03:54 AM EDT
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So I guess the Russians believe the old Soviet lies about what a glorious day it was for Poland when they were liberated by wonderful Soviet Union army and became most beautiful comrades under best Soviet system in world. The Poles apparently did not. Russians refuse to acknowledge the Molotov Ribbentrop pact and will not admit that they too invaded Poland along with Germany,I am absolutely serious that most Russians do not know that it existed or claim it was propaganda. Their view is that they were protecting the Baltics from Germans (and then Western capitalists) and it's too bad that Finland didn't know what was good for them. They were taught history incredibly different to reality. In their version,local Soviets rose up against ts capitalists and fascists and Russians just came to help. They get offended at the term "Occupation" and still will not admit to deportations, murders and 45 years of Russification. This is aided by most Americans and Brits pretending that Europe stopped at the Elbe and that they had no earthly idea Stalin was actually not a nice guy. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:04:24 AM EDT
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#russianlivesmatter
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:04:51 AM EDT
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If the Russians want memorials, then they should build them inside Russia. Nobody else gives a fuck about Russia. A memorial for Russian soldiers inside Poland is a slap in the face to every Pole. I don't blame them for destroying it. They should have done it years ago.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:19:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess they didn't like living under the Soviet boot all those years. What a surprise.  |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:24:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:27:12 AM EDT
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Fuck em. You beat me to it |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:28:24 AM EDT
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Fuck Russia.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:43:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:50:17 AM EDT
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Do polish rednecks drive around with Soviet Battle Flags on their cars?
This sounds an awful lot like a parody news story. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:36:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's this memorial directly east of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. https://michaelrinehart.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/20140619-174920-64160096.jpg Frankly I don't think it's inappropriate and commemorates something that happened there. Remember lest we forget and all that... |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 12:41:25 PM EDT
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Cant or government be smart enough to trick Russia into hating and attacking Islam
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Posted: 7/5/2015 5:54:54 PM EDT
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Cant or government be smart enough to trick Russia into hating and attacking Islam In order to keep Chechnya calm,they're giving them more Islam. Search Google for pics of the government sponsored anti-Western Charlie Hebdo protests in Grozny. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell done. Buy the driver a beer. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:47:00 PM EDT
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I'm no fan of the Russians, but I can see where they'd be pissed. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:51:50 PM EDT
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There's this memorial directly east of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. https://michaelrinehart.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/20140619-174920-64160096.jpg Frankly I don't think it's inappropriate and commemorates something that happened there. Remember lest we forget and all that... I'm cool with scouring Soviet monuments |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:54:24 PM EDT
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I'm no fan of the Russians, but I can see where they'd be pissed. Ummmmm. No. Fuck the Russians. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:55:19 PM EDT
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I'm no fan of the Russians, but I can see where they'd be pissed. Everything the Soviet Union got was earned when the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed. The USSR helped to build Hitler. Too bad it cost the USSR a lot to help pull him down. It is not entitled to anybody's gratitude, least of all Poland's. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:56:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI like it even more. 
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:59:24 PM EDT
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Dear Russia,
Fuck you. -Poland PS: Also, Putin is a tiger-riding fag. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 6:59:53 PM EDT
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This is aided by most Americans and Brits pretending that Europe stopped at the Elbe and that they had no earthly idea Stalin was actually not a nice guy. There was little or nothing we could do. We weren't going to nuke the Soviet Union. We lost our chance in not strangling the Soviet child in its crib. The Democratic Party was also full of Soviet agents of influence and action, and continued to be until the end of the Soviet Union. That said, one of the few bright lights in the history of American diplomacy was the Welles Declaration. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:00:50 PM EDT
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Poles should agree to restore the Soviet monument when a Katyn Massacre monument is erected in the center of Red Square.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:00:56 PM EDT
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I'm no fan of the Russians, but I can see where they'd be pissed. Fuck those evil drunk bastards. No one would say shit about pulling down a Nazi war memorial. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:00:58 PM EDT
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sorry sir but your facts are a little bit wrong it was over 20,000 Polish officers and intellectuals that were murdered by the NKVD IN the katyin massacre. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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MOSCOW/WARSAW (Reuters) - Russia said on Saturday it was outraged by Poland's destruction of a Soviet war monument, warning Warsaw of the "most negative consequences" after what it said was a flagrant violation of an agreement between the two countries on protecting memorial sites. Poland has been one of the most vocal critics of Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula in 2014. Russia and Poland share a history of conflicts and the disagreement over war memorials is likely to add to tensions. "Warsaw must finally understand that the 'war of monuments' unleashed in Poland may have the most negative consequences, for which the responsibility lies squarely with its initiators," the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement. Authorities in the western Polish town of Nowa Sol took down the brotherhood-in-arms of Polish and Red Army soldiers memorial at the end of June, reducing it to a pile of rubble. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russia-outraged-polands-removal-soviet-war-memorial-130100672.html Fuck Russia. IIRC, the Russians killed a few thousand Polish officers at the start of WWII. Why would the Poles want to honor that? Good destruction. sorry sir but your facts are a little bit wrong it was over 20,000 Polish officers and intellectuals that were murdered by the NKVD IN the katyin massacre. And there were lots more people who were rounded up besides the Kaytn massacre. Then you have when the Soviets returned in 1944, the Red Army paused outside of Warsaw so the Polish insurrection could be crushed by the Germans (The Polish rebellion was a US/UK sponsored thing). |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:02:16 PM EDT
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Poles should agree to restore the Soviet monument when a Katyn Massacre monument is erected in the center of Red Square. This. Fuck those drunk commie fags. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:03:03 PM EDT
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The Soviet Union was complaisant with the Nazis in invading and destroying their country in 1939; not to mention the massacre a Katyn. I can understand Poland's lack of good will in regards to Russia. And Poland had previously been invaded by the Red Army. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:05:42 PM EDT
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I wonder how the Russians would react if the Poles erected the Appropriate Memorial at Katyn....say a 13 year old Officer Cadet kneeling with an NKVD thug holding a Makarov at the back of his neck? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile They want to really bring it home, they'll put Vlad's face on it. Have him stand on the back of a soldier so he gets the appropriate downward angle. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:09:55 PM EDT
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(Mind Blown) They have a nice piece of concrete shit for the local USSR sympathizers to visit here in Riga too. Crying shame the folks that attempted to blow it up a few years back failed to do so. This is not even in the same league as the confederate flag and is sadly very whitewashed in history books. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess they didn't like living under the Soviet boot all those years. What a surprise. (Mind Blown) They have a nice piece of concrete shit for the local USSR sympathizers to visit here in Riga too. Crying shame the folks that attempted to blow it up a few years back failed to do so. This is not even in the same league as the confederate flag and is sadly very whitewashed in history books. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile All the eastern European countries feel the same way about Russia. Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Czechs, Slovacs, the Baltics, Finland, Ukraine, all of them. And its not just he past - they are afraid of Russia now. The exceptions are only Serbia and Armenia and they are close to Russia partly because their neighbors are enemies. Russia will never be a great country until it first becomes a good country. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:12:11 PM EDT
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The Poles should be arming themselves absolutely to the teeth. 'Visiting her neighbor a Polish woman asks; "Where is you husband" "Oh he is busy oiling his garden" |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:15:01 PM EDT
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All the eastern European countries feel the same way about Russia. Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Czechs, Slovacs, the Baltics, Finland, Ukraine, all of them. And its not just he past - they are afraid of Russia now. The exceptions are only Serbia and Armenia and they are close to Russia partly because their neighbors are enemies. Russia will never be a great country until it first becomes a good country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess they didn't like living under the Soviet boot all those years. What a surprise. (Mind Blown) They have a nice piece of concrete shit for the local USSR sympathizers to visit here in Riga too. Crying shame the folks that attempted to blow it up a few years back failed to do so. This is not even in the same league as the confederate flag and is sadly very whitewashed in history books. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile All the eastern European countries feel the same way about Russia. Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Czechs, Slovacs, the Baltics, Finland, Ukraine, all of them. And its not just he past - they are afraid of Russia now. The exceptions are only Serbia and Armenia and they are close to Russia partly because their neighbors are enemies. Russia will never be a great country until it first becomes a good country. Russia is simply doing what it's always done. The only time Russians respect you is when you've got your boot on their neck. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:15:46 PM EDT
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A very astute observation, sir.... 
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I sense a theme or trend here regarding this subject. A very astute observation, sir....
I be very dum but, what trend did you sense, particularly after just one response? I may need you to let me know what some lottery numbers are...
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:25:47 PM EDT
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There's this memorial directly east of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. https://michaelrinehart.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/20140619-174920-64160096.jpg Frankly I don't think it's inappropriate and commemorates something that happened there. Remember lest we forget and all that... Merkel should have that thing dismantled piece by piece and shipped to Moscow. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:26:43 PM EDT
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Is this like the old south....Stone Mountain, Battle Flag, Robert E Lee High School, etc, etc. Nooooo, could never happen here.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:28:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there some big monument to the Polish in Russia that I don't know about that the Russians could destroy in retaliation? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:30:58 PM EDT
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Is this like the old south....Stone Mountain, Battle Flag, Robert E Lee High School, etc, etc. Nooooo, could never happen here. Not really. Poland is standing behind Ukraine, and generally pissing Russia off. I'd bet dollars to donuts that Poland destroyed that monument specifically to piss on the Russians. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:31:01 PM EDT
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Cant or government be smart enough to trick Russia into hating and attacking Islam Actually I think they do hate islam already. They are paranoid of all outside cultures.. They had like 50 wars with the Ottomans and the Caucuses are still a problem today (Chechnya etc.). But here's part of what is going on. Russia is very paranoid. (Angela Merkel even called it 'paranoid delusions' not too long ago). The Russian economy is always in bad shape. They only do oil and nat gas. And their population is shrinking. Its not a hopeful place historically. The Chinese are a big threat. China is right on the Siberian border. And Siberia has barely any Russians in it. And there is the ongoing Islamic 'problem'. Russia can act very belligerent with us and Europe with very low risk. It strengthens Russian Nationalism and indirectly tells the Chinese, Muslims and others that the Russians are fucking Nuts and not to fuck with them. But also they teach their kids that 'the West' is a different and very bad culture. That America is out to destroy Russia is taught and is a majority viewpoint with Russians. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:31:05 PM EDT
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The Soviet Union was complaisant with the Nazis in invading and destroying their country in 1939; not to mention the massacre a Katyn. I can understand Poland's lack of good will in regards to Russia. complicit? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:32:27 PM EDT
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lol fuck Russia. YOU invaded them, killed off as many as you could, then put them under a puppet regime. yea, fuck off and die you piece of shit assholes.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:32:49 PM EDT
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FUCK the RUSSIANS. As someone with Polish ancestry married to a first generation US born Pole, I can say that the hatred, distrust, disgust and anger runs very deep. Speaking with my wife and her family about what was experienced (even within the last decade) I am surprised they didn't level all that shit years ago.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:34:49 PM EDT
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Is this like the old south....Stone Mountain, Battle Flag, Robert E Lee High School, etc, etc. Nooooo, could never happen here. Uh,no,it would be more like if Stone Mountain was a giant relief of Sherman with an inscription of how he liberated the city. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:37:06 PM EDT
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Russia and every vestige and reminder of it should be wiped from planet earth. It is an evil that must be erased.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:39:45 PM EDT
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FUCK the RUSSIANS. As someone with Polish ancestry married to a first generation US born Pole, I can say that the hatred, distrust, disgust and anger runs very deep. Speaking with my wife and her family about what was experienced (even within the last decade) I am surprised they didn't level all that shit years ago. What they see the Russians doing in Ukraine and Georgia etc. must reinforce that. You know the Russians living in Ukraine (or the Baltics or anywhere) could move just 10 or 20 Kilometers and be back in the motherland. Its like being in Oklahoma but wanting to be in Texas and instead of moving, you want Texas to invade and carve out a piece of Oklahoma. I just don't think that way. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:42:32 PM EDT
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Fuck Russia
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:43:47 PM EDT
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Regarding Katyn read up on what happened to the naval officer who wrote a report for Roosevelt,sorry I can't recall his name.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there some big monument to the Polish in Russia that I don't know about that the Russians could destroy in retaliation? There is a bunch of graves of Polish officers in the woods. Is there a memorial for that? |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 8:02:54 PM EDT
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That could be the hill the Poles die on if they keep it up. They should tread lightly. The Soviets Russians don't care for the Poles anyway.
I really see it as no different than if Virginians took to destroying the memorials to Union units/men on the various Battlefields in our state. Not all memorials are on NPS lands you know. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 8:09:26 PM EDT
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That could be the hill the Poles die on if they keep it up. They should tread lightly. The Soviets Russians don't care for the Poles anyway. I really see it as no different than if Virginians took to destroying the memorials to Union units/men on the various Battlefields in our state. Not all memorials are on NPS lands you know. You say that like Poles ought to treat those memorials as if they're to their own countrymen, as Civil War memorials are to Amercans. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 8:19:47 PM EDT
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Russia is hardly going to invade Poland over monuments.
However,the reality is that this will be used as further propaganda proof that Europe is now run by neo-Nazi Russophobes in mainstream TV and print news. It certainly plays into Putin's game of making Russians look at Europe as the source of their problems rather than him robbing the country blind. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 8:29:55 PM EDT
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You say that like Poles ought to treat those memorials as if they're to their own countrymen, as Civil War memorials are to Amercans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That could be the hill the Poles die on if they keep it up. They should tread lightly. The Soviets Russians don't care for the Poles anyway. I really see it as no different than if Virginians took to destroying the memorials to Union units/men on the various Battlefields in our state. Not all memorials are on NPS lands you know. You say that like Poles ought to treat those memorials as if they're to their own countrymen, as Civil War memorials are to Amercans. In my eyes those Union memorials here in Virginia commemorate invaders. They look OK for the most part but in light of recent attacks on our southern heritage I would not be at all upset if they were all carefully uprooted and sent north on a flat-bed and replaced with a tasteful "so and so Yankee did something here" historical marker, cannon, or some such. Yankees that fought on Virginia soil mean absolutely nothing to me except to where they fit in a historical context. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 8:30:02 PM EDT
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And Poland had previously been invaded by the Red Army. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Soviet Union was complaisant with the Nazis in invading and destroying their country in 1939; not to mention the massacre a Katyn. I can understand Poland's lack of good will in regards to Russia. And Poland had previously been invaded by the Red Army. Poland routed them previously, IIRC. |
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