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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:34:27 AM EDT
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China bans many things and doesn't care about the complaints.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:46:06 AM EDT
[#2]
I'm OK with this.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:48:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: prohibiting alcohol and smoking and eating halal food is considered radical behavior and is also banned. Now thats a ban I support. A ban on bans of awesome things. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:59:00 AM EDT
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:01:40 AM EDT
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China has never really been shy about the whole "banning religion" thing. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:02:23 AM EDT
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Now thats a ban I support. A ban on bans of awesome things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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prohibiting alcohol and smoking and eating halal food is considered radical behavior and is also banned. Now thats a ban I support. A ban on bans of awesome things. Sometimes, a strong, centralized government is your friend. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:08:52 AM EDT
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Not much of ban....
"Food safety officials in Jinghe county near the Kazakh border "guide and encourage" halal restaurants to have normal opening hours during Ramadan, as said on the government's official site. Restaurants that stay open will be rewarded with fewer food inspection checks." " Party officials (ie. civil servants) in Maralbexi county were reportedly required to give written and verbal promises "guaranteeing they have no faith, will not attend religious activities and will lead the way in not fasting over Ramadan."' http://shanghaiist.com/2015/06/17/china_bans_fasting_for_muslims_in_x.php But as said above, China bans all kinds of things with no fucks given Ban of Rooftop crosses barbecues Cheese |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:15:21 AM EDT
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Despots being despots. If you aren't a member of the Maoist branch of Atheism they slap all sorts of rules on you. Not exactly something to aspire to even if I am not a fan of the religion of submission to their take on the will of Allah.
Also if I recall correctly the area in question is populated by people who are neither ethnically or culturally Chinese. This isn't much different than the crap china pulls in Tibet. Fuck the PDRC. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:15:22 AM EDT
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Sometimes I wish that "We the People" in our own country would be governed more like the people are governed in China.........................not really.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:15:41 AM EDT
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Sometimes, a strong, centralized government is your friend. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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prohibiting alcohol and smoking and eating halal food is considered radical behavior and is also banned. Now thats a ban I support. A ban on bans of awesome things. Sometimes, a strong, centralized government is your friend. Have you been watching what they are doing with the Christian church there? It's odd for me to see guy's on this site cheering a Communist, authoritarian government. Now, to chase this down the rabbit hole, I think that banning or strictly controlling/limiting Islam is a good thing. This is because when one starts studying the history and nature of it, you begin to understand that it is not "just another religion", like Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and Christianity. After the 9/11 attacks I started reading about Islam. The first book I chose was Paul Fregosi's Jihad in the West. On eof the main reasons for that selection is that it was published before 9/11 and I wanted to avoid any bias that might have resulted from that event. Also, it is pretty thoroughly researched and footnoted. Another book that has good information but is a lighter read that I recommend for an introduction to the subject is The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades. Islam is essentially a constitution unto itself. Islam, as a system, covers areas of government, social structure, taxation, military policy, and so forth. As such, it is subversive to any non-Muslim country it exists in. Is Islam subversive in the United States? The Center for Security Policy produced a video series on Muslim Brotherhood infiltration and operations in our country: www.muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com . |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:16:52 AM EDT
[#11]
China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:23:23 AM EDT
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming I think Muslims should do the peppering. Without crippling ROEs, ISIS/AQI/Al Shabab would have been literally exterminated by the West 15 years ago. China is not so big on restrictive ROEs, and they are also pretty tolerant on the whole 'genocide' thing when they're the ones doing it. There is a reason that, despite 70 years of Communist repression, the Muslim majority areas of China are still relatively quiet. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:24:21 AM EDT
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. Where? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:29:28 AM EDT
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there's some irony in China banning people from fasting. When they have had no qualms about starving people in the past
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:33:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:39:08 AM EDT
[#16]
Their country, their rules
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:40:12 AM EDT
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Have you been watching what they are doing with the Christian church there? It's odd for me to see guy's on this site cheering a Communist, authoritarian government. ...snip... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sometimes, a strong, centralized government is your friend. Have you been watching what they are doing with the Christian church there? It's odd for me to see guy's on this site cheering a Communist, authoritarian government. ...snip... <sigh> It's just a matter of fact bro. Islam is a definite threat--Christianity, probably not. In dealing with such a threat it's a benefit to the national security apparatus for the government to be free to ignore the hand-wringers. Pretty much in any other circumstance a strong, centralized is a very bad thing. With the decline of religious homogeneity in the US--homogeneity being prerequisite if/when religion is to have political/security value--Islam is a dire threat. What's neat about religion when it's homogeneous is that it's a self-running and self-maintaining security apparatus; the government needn't be involved in it. If/when/as is loses it's homogeneous state...I digress... Christianity used to be virtually our sole religious element, and as it departs most of those left in its wake are hand-wringing pukes. China doesn't have to cope with that; we do. Don't panic: I'll take the US over the Chinese any day of the week, on Sundays and Holy-days too. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:01:59 AM EDT
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Ironically leftists love the chinese model.
no messy democracy to ruin freedom. the worst thing in the world is democracy. It can lead to all kinds of bad anti-freedom bad stuff. we are getting rid of democracy here, too, for freedom. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:15:30 AM EDT
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That's racist.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:23:29 AM EDT
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Where? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good perhaps Isis will take there fight there. Where? I think he's trying to say they're going to take their fight there. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:28:52 AM EDT
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming ROP doesn't have the stomach for a REAL battle. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:31:58 AM EDT
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ROP doesn't have the stomach for a REAL battle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming ROP doesn't have the stomach for a REAL battle. Sure they have the stomach for it. But better in this regard they have the intelligence to fight where they can win and the patients to wait for China to be softened by its growing Materialism. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:34:35 AM EDT
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Hmmm, China does what it thinks is best for itself and gives not 1 fuck what anybody else thinks about it.
Imagine that. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:36:18 AM EDT
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I'm OK with this. Since Islam is the enemy around the planet I'm ok with this. There is no radical Islam, just Islam. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:36:25 AM EDT
[#25]
most People are unworthy of individual liberty and need to be governed.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:38:28 AM EDT
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Amazing what you can get done when you don't fetishize minority victimhood.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:43:25 AM EDT
[#27]
How many are OK with them arresting Christians because they too are seen as a security threat? This isn't a theoretical as raids on home churches happen all the time.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:45:00 AM EDT
[#28]
I'll have a Coke.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:45:30 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think Muslims should do the peppering. Without crippling ROEs, ISIS/AQI/Al Shabab would have been literally exterminated by the West 15 years ago. China is not so big on restrictive ROEs, and they are also pretty tolerant on the whole 'genocide' thing when they're the ones doing it. There is a reason that, despite 70 years of Communist repression, the Muslim majority areas of China are still relatively quiet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming I think Muslims should do the peppering. Without crippling ROEs, ISIS/AQI/Al Shabab would have been literally exterminated by the West 15 years ago. China is not so big on restrictive ROEs, and they are also pretty tolerant on the whole 'genocide' thing when they're the ones doing it. There is a reason that, despite 70 years of Communist repression, the Muslim majority areas of China are still relatively quiet. You can bet the US government would love to arm and use extremist muslims against china in the western part of the country like the Taliban in the 1970 and 80s against the russians. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:47:49 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I wish that "We the People" in our own country would be governed more like the people are governed in China.........................not really. There is no "We" if you're a kulak, comrade. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:49:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ironically leftists love the chinese model. no messy democracy to ruin freedom. the worst thing in the world is democracy. It can lead to all kinds of bad anti-freedom bad stuff. we are getting rid of democracy here, too, for freedom. Actually, to put a finer point, it isn't "freedom" they worship, but "equality". Freedom can be sacrificed, because isn't equality really better than freedom? (Unless you're an elite philosopher king holding the reigns of the party) |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:52:50 AM EDT
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China The US, Europe, Australia, Canada and remainder of the western world better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming FIFY 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:57:14 AM EDT
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming China vs Islam. I'd pay to watch that. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:59:24 AM EDT
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(Unless you're an elite philosopher king holding the reigns of the party) Ever met a libertarian or liberal who didn't think they were uniquely qualified for this role? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:00:29 AM EDT
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fake clickbait site
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:01:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Sure they have the stomach for it. But better in this regard they have the intelligence to fight where they can win and the patients to wait for China to be softened by its growing Materialism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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China better pepper their angus. The religion of peace is coming ROP doesn't have the stomach for a REAL battle. Sure they have the stomach for it. But better in this regard they have the intelligence to fight where they can win and the patients to wait for China to be softened by its growing Materialism. No. Oh there might be a virgin seeker or two. But WHEN the Chinese crack down? No. You give the ROP no room to maneuver and the world wins. Patiences.  There will be no real battle in China. And if there is, please pass the popcorn.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:09:30 AM EDT
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fake clickbait site No need to click on funky sites to comment in GD. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:12:50 AM EDT
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I wonder how China would deal with terrorist attacks.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:18:11 AM EDT
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I wonder how China would deal with terrorist attacks. Haven't they had what could be deemed terrorist attacks where groups of guys have showed up with knives and killed a bunch of folks? Didn't like 130 something people get slashed to death about a year ago? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:20:56 AM EDT
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There is not a lot of love in China for Islam.
Christians aren't running around attacking Police stations or killing people at train stations. ( Kumming) Muslims are. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:25:47 AM EDT
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I'm OK with this. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:26:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is not a lot of love in China for Islam. Christians aren't running around attacking Police stations or killing people at train stations. ( Kumming) Muslims are. Yet in the past year authorities have attacked and even destroyed official Protestant churches, as well as unofficial ones. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:29:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm, China does what it thinks is best for itself and gives not 1 fuck what anybody else thinks about it. Imagine that.  Course the Chinese claim they knocked over this church because of zoning or permit issues |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:30:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:31:36 AM EDT
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Chinese preacher jailed for singing hymns http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9852179/Chinese-preacher-arrested-for-hymn-session.html
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:35:26 AM EDT
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See, aimless. that is freedom. true freedom.
imagine all those rational atheists seeing those buildings of ignorance and oppression every day. subjecting them to jesus and shit. all those flat earth christian taliban trying to put good communist atheist in the shackles of fear and fairy tales. now the chinese are free from superstition. free from moral judgements. free from people knocking on their door trying to make them happy, (like such a thing could exist when chained to superstitions about heaven and hell and what not) that is face of libertarian freedom. Only instead of a Mao jacket. they wear a black robe. the black robe of our earthly gods. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:38:22 AM EDT
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Just because we're doing it wrong here, doesn't mean China is doing it right.
ETA: China isn't cracking down on Islam because of ISIS and the threat of terror. They're cracking down on it because it's a religion they can't control. They're assaulting the inherent freedoms of worship, religion, conscience, speech, and assembly, it just gets lots of cheers from the flag waving portion of Americans because it happens to affect an undesirable religion. Islam is evil. CAIR, ISIS, etc... are evil. But so is restricting the freedom of a Chinese Islamic to eat kosher. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:40:45 AM EDT
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Well that settles it. Muslim nations will now call China the Great Satan and the US will be off the hook.
I always find it funny how Muslim people bitch about the US (Great Satan) and Israel (Little Satan) while somebody like old Pol Pot killed more Muslims than both put together. The selective outrage is strong but I reckon the know the left wing liberals are seen as useful idiots, the Chinese/Russian etc. not so much. "The Muslim Cham minority, a community that has lived in Cambodia for a thousand years, was especially targeted for extermination. Whole villages of Chams were exterminated and only half of the Cham survived." |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:41:06 AM EDT
[#49]
I heard Japan banned it also. So it's probably not the first or last time a country bans Islam.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:50:15 AM EDT
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I'm OK with this. You're from NJ. You're used to not have having any rights or freedoms. |
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