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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:14:01 AM EDT
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:16:56 AM EDT
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impaired digestion? lol I call BS on all this. They just wanted to sue.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:17:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:19:12 AM EDT
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Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:21:52 AM EDT
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Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again. They'll fucking sue you for that too. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:21:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:22:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again. Who could guarantee there would not be litigation alleging intentional sabotage of their special moment? |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:22:56 AM EDT
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Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again. Winner Edit: maybe not 
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:23:20 AM EDT
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impaired digestion? lol I call BS on all this. They just wanted to sue. Probably something they ate... |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:25:31 AM EDT
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Winner Edit: maybe not
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Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again. Winner Edit: maybe not
As the others have mentioned, they would still be sued for discrimination and lose. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:26:36 AM EDT
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. Uh, no. That right (and the Tenth Amendment) went away in 1964: ----------------------------------- The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88–352, 78 Stat. 241, enacted July 2, 1964) is a landmark piece of civil rights legislation in the United States[5] that outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.[6] It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at the workplace and by facilities that served the general public (known as "public accommodations"). Powers given to enforce the act were initially weak, but were supplemented during later years. Congress asserted its authority to legislate under several different parts of the United States Constitution, principally its power to regulate interstate commerce under Article One (section 8), its duty to guarantee all citizens equal protection of the laws under the Fourteenth Amendment and its duty to protect voting rights under the Fifteenth Amendment. The Act was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 2, 1964, at the White House. The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963,[7] in which he asked for legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments" ---------------------------- What could possibly go wrong with such a noble intent? |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:29:07 AM EDT
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. Exactly, WTF is tell em' there more shops out there! And if they all say the same, one of the "couple" needs to learn Betty Fu@$ing Crocker! |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:30:12 AM EDT
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impaired digestion? lol I call BS on all this. They just wanted to sue. Yep, SCOTUS opened this Pandora box. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:33:00 AM EDT
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This ruling by Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian would appear to violate article 1 sections 3 and 8 of the Oregon constitution as well as both the freedom of speech (artistic expression in making the cake) and their freeedom to exercise their religious rights in the 1st amendment of the US Constitution.
Perhaps it's time for religious people everywhere to petition the Oregon and US the departments of justice. Probably nothing will be done but it might let someone know they have pissed off a majority of the people. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:34:29 AM EDT
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Probably something they ate... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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impaired digestion? lol I call BS on all this. They just wanted to sue. Probably something they ate... My guess would be the fish... |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:35:15 AM EDT
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Yet the homos here say it will be different when churches refuse to let them marry in the church, they will never sue
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:35:47 AM EDT
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Just make the cake, spit in the batter out back where they cant see you and keep your mouth shut! The new AMERIKA
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:39:16 AM EDT
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This quest for inclusion will lead to more division. Some businesses will necessarily choose to curtail their services or close altogether. It's a communist wet dream. And the fools in this case are just puppets looking to cash in.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:43:23 AM EDT
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They'll fucking sue you for that too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again. They'll fucking sue you for that too. just forget the sugar |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:44:27 AM EDT
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Uh, no. That right (and the Tenth Amendment) went away in 1964: ----------------------------------- The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88–352, 78 Stat. 241, enacted July 2, 1964) is a landmark piece of civil rights legislation in the United States[5] that outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.[6] It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at the workplace and by facilities that served the general public (known as "public accommodations"). Powers given to enforce the act were initially weak, but were supplemented during later years. Congress asserted its authority to legislate under several different parts of the United States Constitution, principally its power to regulate interstate commerce under Article One (section 8), its duty to guarantee all citizens equal protection of the laws under the Fourteenth Amendment and its duty to protect voting rights under the Fifteenth Amendment. The Act was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 2, 1964, at the White House. The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963,[7] in which he asked for legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments" ---------------------------- What could possibly go wrong with such a noble intent? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. Uh, no. That right (and the Tenth Amendment) went away in 1964: ----------------------------------- The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88–352, 78 Stat. 241, enacted July 2, 1964) is a landmark piece of civil rights legislation in the United States[5] that outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.[6] It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at the workplace and by facilities that served the general public (known as "public accommodations"). Powers given to enforce the act were initially weak, but were supplemented during later years. Congress asserted its authority to legislate under several different parts of the United States Constitution, principally its power to regulate interstate commerce under Article One (section 8), its duty to guarantee all citizens equal protection of the laws under the Fourteenth Amendment and its duty to protect voting rights under the Fifteenth Amendment. The Act was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 2, 1964, at the White House. The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963,[7] in which he asked for legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments" ---------------------------- What could possibly go wrong with such a noble intent? A good balance would be to have the above apply to standard goods that are available to anyone who shops in a retail establishment. Custom items like wedding cakes require individual artistry and expression, and the maker should be able to decide what projects he takes and who he works for. I forsee bakers eliminating custom cakes and providing several standard designs. Want a custom cake and they will sell you a decorating kit. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:47:12 AM EDT
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Yet the homos here say it will be different when churches refuse to let them marry in the church, they will never sue Truth |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:49:33 AM EDT
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And there are those who will tell you that it will never happen...............until it happens and they search for an excuse to explain why it happened
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Yet the homos here say it will be different when churches refuse to let them marry in the church, they will never sue |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:49:38 AM EDT
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gay mafia strikes again.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:51:36 AM EDT
[#24]
"Excessive sleep, weight gain, lack of motivation"
Sweetheart, you're just a fat lazy fuck.....it wasn't the lack of cupcakes that did that to you. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 8:54:14 AM EDT
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why does OP hate freedom?
this is freedom, embrace it!!!! Just think of the alternatives, christians out there baking cup cakes, with no decent restraint. I am going to donate to the rand paul campaign just to calm down my freedom boner. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:02:04 AM EDT
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To make myself feel good about this, I just remember the wisdom of Arfcom's freedom-loving (edit: for those with whom they agree), self-mislabeled "libertarian" set:
Gay marriage does not affect ANYONE who is not gay. Gay marriage neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket. Gay couples just want acceptance, they do not want anyone to change the way they live. Gay marriage does not have any impact on anyone's religious beliefs. There. All better. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:05:39 AM EDT
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I must love gay marriage
not loving gay marriage is the mind-killer. not loving gay marriage is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my not loving gay marriage. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the not loving gay marriage has gone there will be nothing. Only I (and some lawsuits) will remain. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:06:07 AM EDT
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How were the lesbos damaged? Are these folks the only cake makers in Oregon? Why would the lesbo couple want to spend their money at a business that doesn't support their gay beliefs? This is BS, in your face, vindictive action on the part of the gay community!!
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:07:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: just forget the sugar Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Any more, make the product. But make it so horribly done they'll never ask you to do it again. They'll fucking sue you for that too. just forget the sugar Yup.. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:12:40 AM EDT
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Their list of "ailments" is such bull shit.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:15:33 AM EDT
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That bakery must be federally funded.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:17:21 AM EDT
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Yet the advocates here say it will be different when churches refuse to let them marry in the church, they will never sue Just like if Civil Unions are approved, they'll never ask for marriage. 
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:18:37 AM EDT
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That bakery must be federally funded. Or maybe they just have tax-exempt status. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:21:40 AM EDT
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I'm hazy on the details. Did they refuse to bake anything for homosexuals, or did they refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding?
I have no illusions that I or anyone else is perfect. As a baker, I know that some of my customers may be cheating on their spouses. so be it. Doing business with that knowledge is one thing. But I would refuse the request of anyone who asked me to bake a cake that said "Adultery is great!" which to me is immoral on religious grounds, yet to others may not be. I would refuse to make something stating "Alcohol is great!" on religious grounds even though I know many of my customers may drink. It's one thing to do business knowing that people are sinners. It's another to do business that asks me to approve of any given sin. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:23:05 AM EDT
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I have products that cost $5 but are priced at $10,000.00. .Gov says I have to sell it but not what I have to price it at.
But there are coupons available that bring the price down to $10. I can direct you to the Pastor that holds the coupon book. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:23:06 AM EDT
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Looks like they need to build a Killdozer disguised as a giant cake.
That list of "hurt feels" is a great example of fucked our "justice" system is. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:23:40 AM EDT
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Nope, Not paying. Would be making the news in a way I cant explain here.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:23:48 AM EDT
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. Show me a law that says they do. I don't agree with the ruling, but, there has never been a law that said you can refuse to serve someone. You might get away with it.........but only until they enforce the law on you. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:24:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: Oregon has demanded them to pay $135,000 fine to the lesbian couple...and also to shut the fuck up and never talk about the case..... I |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:25:05 AM EDT
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I'm hazy on the details. Did they refuse to bake anything for homosexuals, or did they refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding? I have no illusions that I or anyone else is perfect. As a baker, I know that some of my customers may be cheating on their spouses. so be it. Doing business with that knowledge is one thing. But I would refuse the request of anyone who asked me to bake a cake that said "Adultery is great!" which to me is immoral on religious grounds, yet to others may not be. I would refuse to make something stating "Alcohol is great!" on religious grounds even though I know many of my customers may drink. It's one thing to do business knowing that people are sinners. It's another to do business that asks me to approve of any given sin. Look, this is New Amerika m you will not only accept abhorrent behavior, you will celebrate it. It has been ordered by your masters. STFU slave and kneel at the alter of government. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:26:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:26:23 AM EDT
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I'm hazy on the details. Did they refuse to bake anything for homosexuals, or did they refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding? I have no illusions that I or anyone else is perfect. As a baker, I know that some of my customers may be cheating on their spouses. so be it. Doing business with that knowledge is one thing. But I would refuse the request of anyone who asked me to bake a cake that said "Adultery is great!" which to me is immoral on religious grounds, yet to others may not be. I would refuse to make something stating "Alcohol is great!" on religious grounds even though I know many of my customers may drink. It's one thing to do business knowing that people are sinners. It's another to do business that asks me to approve of any given sin. Well, now the government will ensure you no longer have a business to worry about that conundrum.......... Ain't freedom great?
Welcome to the new America.
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:26:30 AM EDT
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Show me a law that says they do. I don't agree with the ruling, but, there has never been a law that said you can refuse to serve someone. You might get away with it.........but only until they enforce the law on you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. Show me a law that says they do. I don't agree with the ruling, but, there has never been a law that said you can refuse to serve someone. You might get away with it.........but only until they enforce the law on you. Yea, i get that...just stupid, the gays are pushing their beliefs and winning, where the shop owners arent allowed to follow their convictions and are fined because of it. Cant the shop counter sue for the exact same reasons, the gays pushed their agenda based on religion and caused undo stress and "mental rape" of the shop owners? Quoted:
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. Yea, I live under a rock, didnt know they couldnt do that in their own shop, figured their shop , their rules. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:26:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:30:20 AM EDT
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I doubt that has been true at any time in your lifetime. The Federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 made that illegal. Thanks segregation! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. soooooooooo freedom IS scary |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:33:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, I live under a rock, didnt know they couldnt do that in their own shop, figured their shop , their rules. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I dont understand it, really. its their shop, they have right to refuse service to anyone. Yea, I live under a rock, didnt know they couldnt do that in their own shop, figured their shop , their rules. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:38:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:38:23 AM EDT
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Find islamic bakery
Ask to bake gay muhammad cake ?????? Profit! |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:41:18 AM EDT
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I'm hazy on the details. Did they refuse to bake anything for homosexuals, or did they refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding? I have no illusions that I or anyone else is perfect. As a baker, I know that some of my customers may be cheating on their spouses. so be it. Doing business with that knowledge is one thing. But I would refuse the request of anyone who asked me to bake a cake that said "Adultery is great!" which to me is immoral on religious grounds, yet to others may not be. I would refuse to make something stating "Alcohol is great!" on religious grounds even though I know many of my customers may drink. It's one thing to do business knowing that people are sinners. It's another to do business that asks me to approve of any given sin. The bakery had previously made baked goods for one of the two lesbians in the story. When they went back for a gay wedding cake, they were told the bakery couldn't make those. So, the lesbians weren't denied service, they were trying to order a product that the bakery doesn't produce. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 9:45:31 AM EDT
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The homos ain't ever gonna be happy. Ever.
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