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THIS is a mothafreakin' TAG.
I may want to do that. I'd wonder if one could just rig the directional antenna into the camera itself... although the output may be a bit low. Maybe some sort of amplifier in-line with it? Then you can just have the camera and the directional antenna rigged up on the tripod. I've already got a couple USB batteries... I recommend the Anker brand. |
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THIS is a mothafreakin' TAG. I may want to do that. I'd wonder if one could just rig the directional antenna into the camera itself... although the output may be a bit low. Maybe some sort of amplifier in-line with it? Then you can just have the camera and the directional antenna rigged up on the tripod. I've already got a couple USB batteries... I recommend the Anker brand. View Quote This was another thought that I had. What I was thinking of doing was to buy another camera, put a high gain antenna on both of them. Placing the router between them so I can run a cam at both the 300 yard target and the 500 yard target at the same time. I believe you can run up to 9 cams at the same time. |
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Build ideas are welcome. I am always looking for ways to improve my setup. Some of you posted pics/comments about your own. Please share the wealth.
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Build ideas are welcome. I am always looking for ways to improve my setup. Some of you posted pics/comments about your own. Please share the wealth. View Quote How about some in depth details about all of the parts used and their individual and specific interconnections? I would really appreciate that. |
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How about some in depth details about all of the parts used and their individual and specific interconnections? I would really appreciate that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Build ideas are welcome. I am always looking for ways to improve my setup. Some of you posted pics/comments about your own. Please share the wealth. How about some in depth details about all of the parts used and their individual and specific interconnections? I would really appreciate that. A step by step? Give me a few. |
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Thanks for posting that up, OP...great work.
I'll have to dig through this whole thread when I get back, maybe start ordering some things..... |
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Quoted: I have been doing lots of longer range shooting in the last couple of years, and normally shoot on steel. Recently I got on a range that goes to 700 yards but does not allow steel targets. After the very first day shooting this range, I knew there had to be a better way. We must have walked 10 miles in all back and forth to check our targets. The mirage was terrible, and even with a 60x spotting scope we couldnt really see any bullet holes past 200 yards reliably. The property owner offered to rent us his target cam system for $20 the next time we were out there, and we gladly took him up on the offer. Not money well spent. His was a low-res 900mhz RF model with cheese grade 7 inch VGA monitor. When we actually did get enough signal, and the wind was blowing just right, we could make out our targets in all their blurry detail. When we left that day, the property owner asked me how I liked the camera setup, and wanted to know if I would like to purchase one. I was cordial and told him that it saved us from walking, and I appreciated it. Thats when he told me I could have my very own for $1050 OTD.. Thats right....Over 1k for a hack job cam system. Again, I told myself that there had to be a better, cheaper way. Watching Youtube videos, I ran across Bullseye target cam systems. To me, it looked very straight forward and used all off the shelf parts. Im pretty handy, and had a few drinks in me, so I headed to Amazon.com and ordered a bunch of shit, knowing that I would have regrets the next day. Total Amazon order was $189.31 Almost every single part that you need for under $200 bucks. Now, to be honest, I was really skeptical that it was going to actually work. Also, I really didnt have any place to test it other than the range, and I didnt want to waste a range trip testing it, so I located a road close to home via google maps that was 455 yards according to my GPS. IT FUCKING WORKED. I was stoked, and immediately called a couple of skeptical shooting buddies and told them the news. Again, they were skeptical and doubted that it would actually work as well as a commercial system. Over and over I explained that what I had built was almost identical to the commercial system selling for $700 dollars, even down to the same battery pack. Both of them said "We will see this weekend'. Yeah, we would. Honestly, I was worried too, but here are the results. This was the setup at 500 yards. Everything stayed in the homer box but the antenna on my custom bed slat mount. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/20150627_151836_zpszayzrvwd.jpg This was the Range from the firing line, AKA bed of my truck. The barely visible blue arrow is pointing to the antenna. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/range%20snip_zpsldcug5dd.jpg Strong signal back at the laptop http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/20150627_161245_zpseu2sdss3.jpg And a live view from the camera in real time. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/20150627_161202_zps97t26bsb.jpg And this is a screen snip from the laptop of what you actually see. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Cam%20screenshot_zpsgwkmloyv.jpg This is a Youtube video of me shooting with the target cam cropped and zoomed in. The targets are still very very clear after editing, cropping and zooming. The only thing I noticed was there seemed to be a delay sometimes back at the laptop. I will revisit this later in the writeup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u865qlw-mPo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeJWAd9BTI And my buddy Russ with his GAP. Notice even on the small targets cropped and zoomed bullet holes are still easily visible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1p37IRRGB0 So, How do you do it you ask? Well, you might do something different, but I will tell you what I did. Start out with buying these. I snipped these today, so the prices should be accurate. The antenna. We will re-visit this one http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Capture7_zpsfl8vwbuk.jpg Extended antenna cable. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Capture4_zpselff0qe2.jpg Camera. The commercial version uses the VGA version. The HD version was 10 bucks more, so I went for it instead. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Capture5_zps6qjopttj.jpg The router. You need the detachable antenna version http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Capture6_zps1qhzqu0z.jpg This is your high gain wifi adapter for computer. I will revisit this as well. Lets just say that you have a few options here, including a repeater. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Capture2_zpshkffnine.jpg Big ass battery pack with 4 outputs. Not needed really, as most of you have several laying around. I actually used 3 different ones prior to purchasing this one. More on that later. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Capture3_zps4vmguowq.jpg And this little jewel. You could use 1 or 2 and I will tell you why later. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Capture_zpsmgfmu0aw.jpg View Quote Bookmarked for later reading , thanks for this project, as I have the same issue and with a bum knee, cant handle the walking . Very much appreciated . |
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Relevant to my interests. I'd like to look into modifying a rig to give me a solar powered camera on my gate as well.
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Range setup walkthrough. Start with your kit. You will be taking this to your target. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_145917_zpsqhqommhp.jpg Unpacked http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150133_zpszuboeprw.jpg Plug router power cord into the battery pack.. This is a wire that I spliced into a USB cable. Couldnt be any more straightforward. Red to red and black to black. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150204_zpsb1zqdoco.jpg Router has powered up immediately http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150213_zpsskxjjhqm.jpg Screw in the panel antenna. For this demo I did not use the extension cable, but you get the point. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150233_zpsxspc39lu.jpg Router showing power as well as wifi broadcast. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150250_zpstnsut9nv.jpg Camera connections. You will only be using 2 of these unless you want to run a downrange mic, in which you can use the 1/8 mic jack. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150330_zps2jzs9zqp.jpg Ethernet connection in the LAN slot, not the WAN. Any slot will work as long as its not the WAN port. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150347_zpsmrjrbqns.jpg Other end of ethernet goes in the cam http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150409_zps9rebmdcw.jpg Plug in voltage booster into battery pack. Notice red status light. Make sure you have adjusted the trim pot to a minimum of 9VDC to run the HD cam. I run mine at 12. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150427_zps1itn3y2i.jpg Plug in power jumper into cam and voltage booster. The booster I linked in my first post comes with the correct cable for both the router and the camera. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150503_zpsnljhjlna.jpg Notice on the router it shows a link on port 2 as well as wifi broadcast. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150512_zpsljwoo94q.jpg Connect to the router. In this case, I named mine TGT. The only configuration I did to this router out of the box was to change the broadcast ID to TGT. There is no security enabled. I dont see a need to for my purposes, but you may want to run yours with WEP or WPA encryption. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150534_zpsbfhtbz4i.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150907_zpsiyueokfs.jpg Once you are connected to your network, click the Foscam icon labeled IPcamera http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150641_zpszjiovmgz.jpg This is the first thing you will see. It shows you any camera that it sees connected to the router. Click the camera shown. Notice that I labeled mine Targetcam. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150650_zpss1hrvlw5.jpg The next screen you get is the camera login screen. Initially, when you first connect your cam, you will have a real quick setup screen. That is where you can name your camera, set up passwords, set up in-cam wifi, etc. All I did was re-name it and set up a password. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150701_zpsivsd8qab.jpg After you type in your password, you will get a live feed. Thats my nutty dog Jackson laying under my desk http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150724_zpsmjrrvfoj.jpg With the stock Foscam software you get lots of control. Shown in this pic is the fullscreen, record, and snapshot modes. There are other settings in the pic above such as color adjustment, NV mode, Framerate settings, and multiple cam layouts. I generally dont mess with that crap and just use the record and snapshot modes. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/clindav/Mobile%20Uploads/20150630_150737_zpsd7rfwjgl.jpg Thats all there really is to it. Its almost so simple you wouldnt expect it to work, but it does, and most excellent at that. View Quote I think you earn a few geek points for this, man! Thanks for making it extremely clear, so simple even I can do it! Now it's off to Amazon and eBay... |
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Sorry if this is dumb, but can this run off an iPad or similar?
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Sorry if this is dumb, but can this run off an iPad or similar? View Quote Yes. I ran it on my Andriod tablet, Android phone, and my buddy ran it on his Iphone simultaneously as well as the laptop. The hand held devices could benefit from using a repeater versus a hi gain usb adapter directly connected to the computer. That is my next Amazon order. |
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Relevant to my interests. I'd like to look into modifying a rig to give me a solar powered camera on my gate as well. View Quote I believe it would work perfect for that. I have a similar sized battery pack with a built in solar charger that would probably be perfect for that application. They can be found on Amazon or ebay. Just remember, if you are going to use it for that application you would want to set up wifi password (encryption) |
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Still looking for other builds as well. Im not set on mine. Curious to the owner of the bullseye cam system how that cam actually runs on 5 volts. Would there be a power requirement difference between the HD cam and SD cam versions? This might explain why Bullseye hasnt upgraded their cams yet.
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Still looking for other builds as well. Im not set on mine. Curious to the owner of the bullseye cam system how that cam actually runs on 5 volts. Would there be a power requirement difference between the HD cam and SD cam versions? This might explain why Bullseye hasnt upgraded their cams yet. View Quote I can snap a pic of the setup later. |
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To really fancy things up you can add automated group size analysis: On Target Software
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View Quote I actually already have the standard OnTarget ($12 I think). First ive heard of the TDS stuff. Ill have to give it a shot....literally |
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TAG, been wanting to do this for the many places you can shoot 1000 yards around here... Was thinking of a Cantenna setup for a long range point to point 802.11. There's all kinds of options these days and those Chinese outdoor HD cameras are pretty good.
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This should be moved to the diy section and sticky How do I move it to the DIY section? A site moderator or site staff would have to move it, if they like the subject and think it should remain out of the archives. I hope they will because this has thread potential. |
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First thing posted in GD in a while that hasn't made me roll my eyes or downright piss me off. Good job OP.
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Tagging for future opportunities to spend money and connect shit together
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So, Olympus is about to release this: http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/air-a01.html
It's basically a Micro 4/3 camera all built into a little lens-shaped body. I already have a nice Olympus u4/3 camera and a couple lenses. I'm wondering if I could get this thing, mount it on a tripod and point it at a target, then access it over WiFi as a remote camera. Sure, it's more expensive at $300 for the device, but I'd be able to keep it much more mobile, and probably easier for me to use. I may explore this option. Of course, I have a 40-150mm lens (and a very expensive 12-40mm lens I wouldn't use for target spotting) that is equivalent to 80-300mm on a full frame, so I could probably set it quite a ways in front of the target if I needed to. Reviews so far say battery life isn't that great, but it does have a micro USB charging port, so I could just plug an external battery into it. The questions I have about it are - What is the WiFi range? (I could use a range extender to get around this. I'd need something external in order to use a directional antenna... this will require a little research) Does it go into a standby mode and can it be woke up remotely? Don't want to have to go down range just to hit a button on it to wake it up. |
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So, Olympus is about to release this: http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/air-a01.html http://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Olympus-Air-A01-Smartphone-Camera-Lens-4.jpg It's basically a Micro 4/3 camera all built into a little lens-shaped body. I already have a nice Olympus u4/3 camera and a couple lenses. I'm wondering if I could get this thing, mount it on a tripod and point it at a target, then access it over WiFi as a remote camera. Sure, it's more expensive at $300 for the device, but I'd be able to keep it much more mobile, and probably easier for me to use. I may explore this option. Of course, I have a 40-150mm lens (and a very expensive 12-40mm lens I wouldn't use for target spotting) that is equivalent to 80-300mm on a full frame, so I could probably set it quite a ways in front of the target if I needed to. Reviews so far say battery life isn't that great, but it does have a micro USB charging port, so I could just plug an external battery into it. The questions I have about it are - What is the WiFi range? (I could use a range extender to get around this. I'd need something external in order to use a directional antenna... this will require a little research) Does it go into a standby mode and can it be woke up remotely? Don't want to have to go down range just to hit a button on it to wake it up. View Quote While I know nothing about that camera, it seems like a cool concept. After skimming over the article, I assume you could get it to work the same as using the Foscam wirelessly. As long as the wifi router is close to the camera, you shouldnt have a problem using it the same as a wireless security cam. |
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I've love to see what kind of cheap system could be put together for shorter ranges. 100-200 yards?
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Anyone mention looking into FPV hardware from a drone? The video transmitting equipment could definitely work well at most of the ranges we'd be shooting in (inside of 1000 yards) I have a SYMA drone. It is one of the low-end drones. Wifi range is 300'. Video quality is 2Mp. Wifi camera will run for an hour or more if you are not flying the drone, just watching the live feed. It still retails at 80 bucks though for the drone. I'm watching this thread looking for options though. Maybe a Wifi repeater would be enough to snag the wifi from the cam on the Syma drone and toss it back to me at 300-1000 yards? Dunno. TRG |
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I am retired and on a fixed income. This article put a target camera in my price range. Thanks.
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I've love to see what kind of cheap system could be put together for shorter ranges. 100-200 yards? View Quote http://www.amazon.com/Syma-Headless-Support-360-degree-Quadcopter/dp/B00X7D1MR2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435888547&sr=8-1&keywords=syma+x5sw I'll test mine tomorrow and see if it does 300 feet linear. TRG |
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http://www.amazon.com/Syma-Headless-Support-360-degree-Quadcopter/dp/B00X7D1MR2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435888547&sr=8-1&keywords=syma+x5sw I'll test mine tomorrow and see if it does 300 feet linear. TRG View Quote I hope it works. I've wanted a quad copter and a target camera system for a while. Now I can kill two geeky birds with one $60 stone. :) |
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I hope it works. I've wanted a quad copter and a target camera system for a while. Now I can kill two geeky birds with one $60 stone. :) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://www.amazon.com/Syma-Headless-Support-360-degree-Quadcopter/dp/B00X7D1MR2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435888547&sr=8-1&keywords=syma+x5sw I'll test mine tomorrow and see if it does 300 feet linear. TRG I hope it works. I've wanted a quad copter and a target camera system for a while. Now I can kill two geeky birds with one $60 stone. :) I wanted a drone as well. I had a Syma that only took pic and video to a microUSB. It tried to catch on fire. Full refund from Amazon and bought the FPV (above). Uses Syma video software, (sometimes glitchy) buy the drone is fun. Get the extra battery packs for it. The battery lasts about 5-10 minutes for flying. TRG |
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Couldn't you put the panel antenna right to the foscam and skip the router?
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While I know nothing about that camera, it seems like a cool concept. After skimming over the article, I assume you could get it to work the same as using the Foscam wirelessly. As long as the wifi router is close to the camera, you shouldnt have a problem using it the same as a wireless security cam. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, Olympus is about to release this: http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/air-a01.html http://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Olympus-Air-A01-Smartphone-Camera-Lens-4.jpg It's basically a Micro 4/3 camera all built into a little lens-shaped body. I already have a nice Olympus u4/3 camera and a couple lenses. I'm wondering if I could get this thing, mount it on a tripod and point it at a target, then access it over WiFi as a remote camera. Sure, it's more expensive at $300 for the device, but I'd be able to keep it much more mobile, and probably easier for me to use. I may explore this option. Of course, I have a 40-150mm lens (and a very expensive 12-40mm lens I wouldn't use for target spotting) that is equivalent to 80-300mm on a full frame, so I could probably set it quite a ways in front of the target if I needed to. Reviews so far say battery life isn't that great, but it does have a micro USB charging port, so I could just plug an external battery into it. The questions I have about it are - What is the WiFi range? (I could use a range extender to get around this. I'd need something external in order to use a directional antenna... this will require a little research) Does it go into a standby mode and can it be woke up remotely? Don't want to have to go down range just to hit a button on it to wake it up. While I know nothing about that camera, it seems like a cool concept. After skimming over the article, I assume you could get it to work the same as using the Foscam wirelessly. As long as the wifi router is close to the camera, you shouldnt have a problem using it the same as a wireless security cam. Well, the one thing is that it doesn't join a WiFi network, it sets up its own that you connect your device to... so it should eliminate the router. I'd bet the range of the camera's WiFi is probably pretty weak, since it's not really meant to be used at great range. It also more than likely doesn't have an external antenna jack. I'd think a good repeater might bridge the gap. Maybe set up a repeater on its own stand about 2/3 of the way down toward the camera? I dunno, maybe later this year I'll check it out more seriously. It does all depend on whether or not the camera can stay ON and feed live video continuously, or if it can be turned off and on remotely. If it can, I'd probably get one of those, slap my longer lens on it and set it up probably 25 yards in front of the target. Should I eventually get one, I'll post about it. |
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Couldn't you put the panel antenna right to the foscam and skip the router? View Quote I'm sure it's possible, but not sure of the power output of the on board wifi. For 20 bucks I skipped the guessing game with the router. Also gained a little flexibility along the way. With a second cam set up at the 300 or 700 or both I can view all three at the same time. On another note, the second booster came in yesterday. Will be testing again at the range this saturday. If anyone has any requests just let me know. |
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