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Excuse my ignorance, but.. NIRP?

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Now I know Queevox is right, because his answer to this was the exact opposite of what you said

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Excuse my ignorance, but.. NIRP?

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Good question!
I'm married to mine

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PPT at work...


Had to get them sobered up to get to going...


BUT--- watch what happens at the close...  

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This would be extremely hard to justify, almost bordering on tinfoil territory, but sadly, nothing would surprise me going forward.

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Oh KNOW!!!!

Sooo, that's who your SUPER broker is!!!!


You know the rules...

Pix...

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in general, are you interested in buying when the market is higher, or when the market is lower?

ar-jedi

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Bad news is good!

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Why would it be hard to justify?Just some kind of maintenance fee every month on your account.

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How much has ZIRP stimulated the economy?

How much more have people spent that they wouldn't have if interest rates were higher?

As a saver and someone that saves up to buy what they can afford,I'm all for higher interest rates.I just wonder if it will tighten peoples spending if it starts going up (I know it wouldn't go up by much).


Either way,we have a front row seat to this mess.

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The market is addicted to the morphine of monetary policy.  I'm going to go out on a limb and stand by what I said before the last Fed meeting.  The Fed needs to go ahead and raise rates.  

As crazy as it sounds, I believe the Fed, and perhaps all central banks and planners, are afraid of losing the "faith" of the market.  They're afraid people will lose their "belief", and realize central banks really aren't in control.  At least not to the degree most believe.  

ZIRP is a bad policy that has caused all kinds of economic distortions and malinvestment.  It also leads to a kind of market "addiction", all of which must end.  We must endure the painful withdrawal of this toxic policy.  The longer we put it off the harder it will be.  

Just my 2 cents.  

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I agree.  The fed has said the economy has recovered and there is no need to keep in the emergency actions from 2008.  Yet ZIRP is the emergency rate.


We moved last year for my job, which has more options if one company goes under.  We are renting currently and I have been watching the housing market.  I hear stories of multiple offers above asking in a day or two of listing and a lack of inspections or appraisals during the sale process.  Our plan now is to hold steady, accumulate more capital, and wait for the deflationary wave that is bound to come.  The cracks are starting to show more frequently.

I don't recall where I read it, but there was a very nice article talking about deflationary prices even in a hyper inflationary environment.

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What's dt Q?

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I made an editing mistake, deleted the post, and didn't feel like retyping it.  That's all.

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Which ever way it goes...

You're a wise man...



It seems getting on disability is a Major career path for many...



"I agree. The fed has said the economy has recovered and there is no need to keep in the emergency actions from 2008. Yet ZIRP is the emergency rate."


I have NO IDEA why ANYONE pays any attention to what they say.

They prove to be a pack of liars who have helped destroy our country... ----taking their marching orders from the financial/political classes.


They sure have made a lot of Elite rich though...

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I love how you (and some others) now want to pretend that this thread was somehow about something completely different than it actually was.

. It was not.  It was a thread about a specific prediction you made - namely that markets were going to collapse (on thupcoming Monday) specifically as a result of a default in Greece and subsequent problems in the EU.  That has not happened, and you were completely wrong.  Sorry you have trouble admitting that, but it is painfully obvious to anyone who can read.

You trying to pretend that the thread was some kind of general discussion about market trends is pretty disingenuous, but not surprising, I guess.  It is consistent with the "Six Months" (TM) mindset of Doomers, in which the goalposts are constantly moved, topics changed, and ridiculously accusations made.  All of those have been evident in this thread.

As an example, you and others set up a strawman and pretend that anyone that disagrees with you must be a "pumper" and must be long in the markets.  That's as silly as claiming that anyone who doesn't like Trump is a Jeb supporter - which everyone knows isn't true, yet Trump supporters often vigorously make the argument all the time, arguing against a fake strawman instead of what people are actually saying.  For example, the fact that I am laughing at your inept and incorrect predictions doesn't tell you ANYTHING about my investment strategies, and the fact that you'd label me a "pumper" or some silly thing only demonstrates how weak you are at arguing.

Same for the constant changing of topics and trying to re-focus the discussion on new things, when it becomes obvious that you are wrong about your initial point. For some reason, Doomers seem unable to ever admit a mistake, and constantly just move the goalposts, and try to convince people they were "really" talking about something else.  Some of the usual suspects have seriously been claiming that the economy is just about to collapse since around 2009 - and it's always just around the corner - and they don't even seem to comprehend how ludicrous they've come to appear, standing on their street corner year after year, yelling to everyone how the end is nigh, and just about to happen.  If we enter a bear market for the next few years, it will NOT have validated them, or "proved them right" because they've been claiming that the markets are going to TOTALLY  COLLAPSE - for whatever ever-changing reasons they pull out of their ass.  In the on-going threads, that have been going since around 2009 - that pretty much nobody other than Doomers post in now, because everyone else got tired of the same ol bullshit over and over - nobody said "I predict we'll get a bear market for a few years" . It was always things like "The economy is going to totally collapse in the next few months because we have too much unsustainable debt" or "The economy is going to totally collapse in the next few months because the commercial real estate markets are too heavily leveraged" or "The economy is going to totally collapse in the next few months because global trade is screeching to a halt" or "The economy is going to totally collapse in the next few months because the Fed is talking about stopping QE" or "The economy is going to totally collapse in the next few months because mortgage standards are being lowered by Fannie/Freddie" and so on and so on and so on - patting themselves on the back for how clever and insightful they are, and sneering the stupid steeple that just don't understand the economy like they do.  For years and years and years.  Always a new reason for why the collapse is going to happen, yet no collapse.  

And nobody willing to ever admit they were wrong.  The funniest example is that of QE (as I may have mentioned earlier).  Lots of Doomers  confidently predicted that everything would collapse if the Fed ever even announced that they were going to start tapering the asset purchase program.  Then the Fed did exactly that, and suddenly the goalposts were moved, and the confident prediction was that if the asset purchase plan was actually ended, economy would totally collapse - without any acknowledgement that they previous prediction had been 100% wrong.  Then the Fed did exactly that, and then suddenly all of the Doomers stopped talking about QE. Any mentioned of it completely disappeared from their dire predictions of economic collapse, and if asked about it, they'd either claim a secret conspiracy, claiming that asset purchases were still somehow secretly ongoing withany anyone knowing (presumably orchestrated by the Illuminati and lizard people), or they'd move the goalposts again, and claim that what they "really meant" by QE (which was the asset purchase program that injected money into the system) was actually something completely different, namely the Fed balance sheet - which nobody had mentioned before QE ended.

So the fact that you are now trying to claim that you said something different from what you actually said, and are trying to claim that you were "really" talking about something different, and that you (and other Doomers) are now not really interested in talking about how a default in Greece is going to cause a collapse (which was your original prediction) is hilarious, and 100% predictable.  

What will be even funnier is that IF the migrant crisis causes a serious problem in the EU - undermining the EU treaties and governance structure, which it easily could - and somehow managed to pitch the EU into a deep(er) and serous recession, which will obviously hurt global markets, your will undoubtedly claim that you predicted it, because the word "EU" was in your original post.  That would be par for the course, and even more hilarious.

So please continue with your transparent rationalization and constant moving of goalposts.  It is VERY entertaining.  . That's ultimately what I am in this thread for - entertainment.  You have made it clear that you are not actually interested in really developing a more sophisticated understanding of the issue, and nor are you interested in an actual rational discussion - so laughing at you is pretty much the only reason I am in this thread.  

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Man, if I were a Buy and Holder and studied that chart...

My ass would be sooo puckering right now...

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Man, if I were a Buy and Holder and studied that chart...

My ass would be sooo puckering right now...