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Posted: 6/26/2015 3:55:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:34:02 AM EDT
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I doubt his brains would have been blown out without the assault towel. as I said, this happened because of a towel, and some scarey foot work. It takes some fancy reasoning to turn that into a justified kill. Walking agressively isnt a crime, carrying a towel isnt a crime, Failing to Drop the gun that you dont have isnt a crime but you put those things together with some lax use of force law and some good PR and you got a dead guy with his brains blown out over a towel. Shit happens... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he was walking agressively with a towel... And he was killed.... got his brains blown out, over a towel.. And I should feel bad about saying that PR will insure nothing happens? to me atleast, this is just as fucked up as it was before the PR release. a guy got his brains blown out over a towel. You got it man, he was shot for carrying a towel. What is fucked up is your total lack of any reasoning. I doubt his brains would have been blown out without the assault towel. as I said, this happened because of a towel, and some scarey foot work. It takes some fancy reasoning to turn that into a justified kill. Walking agressively isnt a crime, carrying a towel isnt a crime, Failing to Drop the gun that you dont have isnt a crime but you put those things together with some lax use of force law and some good PR and you got a dead guy with his brains blown out over a towel. Shit happens... Have you ever had a nice long civil conversation with someone who committed a crime with the specific intent of causing you to show up, so that you would be forced to kill that person? Who desperately desired that you be forced into a gunfight over the matter? It's a hell of a thing. Until you've been there, I don't think you know what you're talking about. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:54:19 AM EDT
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The story was a fast and dynamically evolving situation. I was fprced to act on the information I had at the time. You were in the arena, dude. You only had mere minutes, perhaps thirty, to consider the inaccurate conclusions to jump to. It was in good faith I guess you could say that.
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Posted: 6/26/2015 10:13:45 AM EDT
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This should be a lesson that yet again do NOT listen to the media's initial narrative on any shootings. It will be full of lies and misinformation. Folks really should know better by now as it's happened dozens of times, every time. There is an extremely strong push to make any defensive shooting, especially police, to look egregious and immediately shape the narrative in one's mind. Don't let their lies deceive you. It's being done on purpose. LALALALALALALALA...I can't hear you...LALALALALALALALA...You will not change the narrative I have about all cops...LALALALALALALALA...Everything the media says is true about cops... Racist, Ticket Quota writing, trigger happy, dream destroying killer of innocents who were only trying to better their lives! 
Did I miss any of the media's hot points? --ETA: in the event it wasn't blatantly obvious enough...You for got pensions, militarization, and paid leave. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT BENGHAZI!!!! |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 10:15:41 AM EDT
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This should be a lesson that yet again do NOT listen to the media's initial narrative on any shootings. It will be full of lies and misinformation. Folks really should know better by now as it's happened dozens of times, every time. There is an extremely strong push to make any defensive shooting, especially police, to look egregious and immediately shape the narrative in one's mind. Don't let their lies deceive you. It's being done on purpose. LALALALALALALALA...I can't hear you...LALALALALALALALA...You will not change the narrative I have about all cops...LALALALALALALALA...Everything the media says is true about cops... Racist, Ticket Quota writing, trigger happy, dream destroying killer of innocents who were only trying to better their lives!
Did I miss any of the media's hot points? --ETA: in the event it wasn't blatantly obvious enough...You for got pensions, militarization, and paid leave. And cargo pants. WALL STREET!!!!! |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 10:15:50 AM EDT
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Experiment time.
Take your hand, point your finger like you are going to go "bang" with your finger and cover it with a small cloth. Now put your unloaded small hand gun (S&W Shield for example) in your hand and cover it and your hand with a small cloth. From the side I don't think anyone more than 10' away could tell one from the other. From the front, same thing. Now pose like you are in an isosceles hold and point your covered hand at someone. Could someone more than a few feet away really tell the difference? |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 8:26:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2015 8:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySomeone turn the tumbleweed into towels |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 8:31:59 PM EDT
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Experiment time. Take your hand, point your finger like you are going to go "bang" with your finger and cover it with a small cloth. Now put your unloaded small hand gun (S&W Shield for example) in your hand and cover it and your hand with a small cloth. From the side I don't think anyone more than 10' away could tell one from the other. From the front, same thing. Now pose like you are in an isosceles hold and point your covered hand at someone. Could someone more than a few feet away really tell the difference? I've got a better idea: Take your fingers, stick them in your ears. Then close your eyes. Now walk around in circles going, "WAH-WAH-WAH-WAH" at the top of your lungs. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 8:40:39 PM EDT
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I've got a better idea: Take your fingers, stick them in your ears. Then close your eyes. Now walk around in circles going, "WAH-WAH-WAH-WAH" at the top of your lungs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Experiment time. Take your hand, point your finger like you are going to go "bang" with your finger and cover it with a small cloth. Now put your unloaded small hand gun (S&W Shield for example) in your hand and cover it and your hand with a small cloth. From the side I don't think anyone more than 10' away could tell one from the other. From the front, same thing. Now pose like you are in an isosceles hold and point your covered hand at someone. Could someone more than a few feet away really tell the difference? I've got a better idea: Take your fingers, stick them in your ears. Then close your eyes. Now walk around in circles going, "WAH-WAH-WAH-WAH" at the top of your lungs. I don't get your point. Please explain. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 8:46:45 PM EDT
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Witnesses, who the police refuse to name, back up police accounts that.... get back to me when we see the witness statements
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Posted: 6/26/2015 8:47:04 PM EDT
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I don't get your point. Please explain. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Experiment time. Take your hand, point your finger like you are going to go "bang" with your finger and cover it with a small cloth. Now put your unloaded small hand gun (S&W Shield for example) in your hand and cover it and your hand with a small cloth. From the side I don't think anyone more than 10' away could tell one from the other. From the front, same thing. Now pose like you are in an isosceles hold and point your covered hand at someone. Could someone more than a few feet away really tell the difference? I've got a better idea: Take your fingers, stick them in your ears. Then close your eyes. Now walk around in circles going, "WAH-WAH-WAH-WAH" at the top of your lungs. I don't get your point. Please explain. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 3:47:44 AM EDT
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In related news... Walter William DeLeon is still in Critical Condition at an unnamed hospital.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 9:24:57 AM EDT
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In related news... Walter William DeLeon is still in Critical Condition at an unnamed hospital. they REFUSE to name the hospital? 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 7:44:41 PM EDT
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Family Calling For Justice 1 Week After Unarmed Man Is Shot By Police In Los Feliz
LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The family of an East Los Angeles man shot in the head by Los Angeles police is speaking out and calling for justice.
“I cannot put into words,” said Walter William DeLeon’s sister, Yovanna DeLeon. She could barely talk about her brother as she sat next to her sobbing mother in their apartment on Friday night. DeLeon, a father of two, remains in critical condition after last Friday’s shooting in Los Feliz by LAPD officer Cairo Palacios, a nine-year law enforcement veteran with the LAPD since 2013. DeLeon’s family says he was out on a walk. Family members, perplexed over the police account that DeLeon had somehow provoked his own death, say that on the day he was shot, DeLeon had gone out for a walk in Griffith Park, where he liked to exercise, often carrying a towel to wipe away perspiration.
No charges have been filed in the case, but investigations are underway. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/06/26/family-calling-for-justice-after-unarmed-man-is-shot-by-police-in-los-feliz/ |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 7:50:16 PM EDT
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LAPD identifies officer who shot unarmed man in Los Feliz
The LAPD identified Cairo Palacios as the officer who shot Walter William DeLeon, 48, along Los Feliz Boulevard. An attorney representing Palacios said his client thought DeLeon had a gun and was going to shoot the officers, saying there were no indications DeLeon was trying to get their help. Attorney Gary Fullerton acknowledged it can be difficult for the public to grapple with police shootings of unarmed people, but said officers have the right to protect their own lives. "The officer, when he went up to handcuff the man, was shocked to find just the cloth there and nothing under the cloth," Fullerton said. "It's unfortunate, but you can't expect officers to be clairvoyant and wait until they get shot at to actually know what this person is doing or thinking." So shoot them first. 
But, he added, the officers "were obviously traumatized by what happened because nobody likes shooting what ends up being an unarmed man." So, should we hold a fundraiser or do a 5k for traumatized officers? http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-officer-los-feliz-20150626-story.html |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 7:58:51 PM EDT
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LAPD identifies officer who shot unarmed man in Los Feliz So shoot them first.
So, should we hold a fundraiser or do a 5k for traumatized officers? http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-officer-los-feliz-20150626-story.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
LAPD identifies officer who shot unarmed man in Los Feliz The LAPD identified Cairo Palacios as the officer who shot Walter William DeLeon, 48, along Los Feliz Boulevard. An attorney representing Palacios said his client thought DeLeon had a gun and was going to shoot the officers, saying there were no indications DeLeon was trying to get their help. Attorney Gary Fullerton acknowledged it can be difficult for the public to grapple with police shootings of unarmed people, but said officers have the right to protect their own lives. "The officer, when he went up to handcuff the man, was shocked to find just the cloth there and nothing under the cloth," Fullerton said. "It's unfortunate, but you can't expect officers to be clairvoyant and wait until they get shot at to actually know what this person is doing or thinking." So shoot them first.
But, he added, the officers "were obviously traumatized by what happened because nobody likes shooting what ends up being an unarmed man." So, should we hold a fundraiser or do a 5k for traumatized officers? http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-officer-los-feliz-20150626-story.html Wow. That's really pretty incredible. What a load of crap. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 8:11:05 PM EDT
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LAPD identifies officer who shot unarmed man in Los Feliz So shoot them first.
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LAPD identifies officer who shot unarmed man in Los Feliz The LAPD identified Cairo Palacios as the officer who shot Walter William DeLeon, 48, along Los Feliz Boulevard. An attorney representing Palacios said his client thought DeLeon had a gun and was going to shoot the officers, saying there were no indications DeLeon was trying to get their help. Attorney Gary Fullerton acknowledged it can be difficult for the public to grapple with police shootings of unarmed people, but said officers have the right to protect their own lives. "The officer, when he went up to handcuff the man, was shocked to find just the cloth there and nothing under the cloth," Fullerton said. "It's unfortunate, but you can't expect officers to be clairvoyant and wait until they get shot at to actually know what this person is doing or thinking." So shoot them first.
But, he added, the officers "were obviously traumatized by what happened because nobody likes shooting what ends up being an unarmed man." So, should we hold a fundraiser or do a 5k for traumatized officers? http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-officer-los-feliz-20150626-story.html Its the least you could do 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 8:16:30 PM EDT
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Its the least you could do How about I buy you a beer instead? 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 8:25:43 PM EDT
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Family Calling For Justice 1 Week After Unarmed Man Is Shot By Police In Los Feliz http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/06/26/family-calling-for-justice-after-unarmed-man-is-shot-by-police-in-los-feliz/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
Family Calling For Justice 1 Week After Unarmed Man Is Shot By Police In Los Feliz LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The family of an East Los Angeles man shot in the head by Los Angeles police is speaking out and calling for justice.
“I cannot put into words,” said Walter William DeLeon’s sister, Yovanna DeLeon. She could barely talk about her brother as she sat next to her sobbing mother in their apartment on Friday night. DeLeon, a father of two, remains in critical condition after last Friday’s shooting in Los Feliz by LAPD officer Cairo Palacios, a nine-year law enforcement veteran with the LAPD since 2013. DeLeon’s family says he was out on a walk. Family members, perplexed over the police account that DeLeon had somehow provoked his own death, say that on the day he was shot, DeLeon had gone out for a walk in Griffith Park, where he liked to exercise, often carrying a towel to wipe away perspiration.
No charges have been filed in the case, but investigations are underway. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/06/26/family-calling-for-justice-after-unarmed-man-is-shot-by-police-in-los-feliz/ So the family says he didndo nuffin. Surprise. Notice the narrative. Shot Because of a towel. Sounds an awful lot like shot because of skittles and tea. We've seen it before. Don't buy it. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 8:51:32 PM EDT
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In other words, a knee-jerk reaction. There wasn't enough information for any self-respecting person to make a judgement call. Thought I'd go back and do a recap but got tired after page 10. These comments were some of the more colorful ones. ... Antero- He's right. You simply never know with a police interaction if you, your spouse, your kid or your dog is going to end up dead. ... Every one of those posters ought to be ashamed of themselves and come back and apologize. I apologize for nothing. My comment wasn't about this specific incident, please refer back to the comment I was replying to, about inviting the man into one's life. There have been ample cases of innocent people and pets being shot by jumpy or trigger happy cops. It's rare, but it does happen. I'm not losing sleep over it, but I'm not going looking for police interaction either. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 9:43:33 PM EDT
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Before you yell, "DropTheGun!" You better know what the fuck you're talking about.
On the cop's side- My partner just introduced a gun into the equation. I have 1.5 seconds (make up a number, you hardasses.) To shoot or not shoot. On the citizens side (yeah, I said citizen) He has 1.3 seconds to realize that he is talkin' about his T-shirt, not the gun he doesn't have. POW! POW! POW! Fault? I can't assign any. Wait, yes I can. "Drop the gun!" when there was no gun puts the dept. and that officer specifically, in the wrong. Pay the vegetable and his family and stay the fuck away from me on any subsequent calls. A good man can make a bad call. Doesn't make it any less of a bad call. 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 9:49:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would the names of witnesses be released this early in the investigation? Or at all? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Witnesses, who the police refuse to name, back up police accounts that.... get back to me when we see the witness statements Refuse to name? Why would the names of witnesses be released this early in the investigation? Or at all? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Exactly. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 9:54:17 PM EDT
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Before you yell, "DropTheGun!" You better know what the fuck you're talking about. On the cop's side- My partner just introduced a gun into the equation. I have 1.5 seconds (make up a number, you hardasses.) To shoot or not shoot. On the citizens side (yeah, I said citizen) He has 1.3 seconds to realize that he is talkin' about his T-shirt, not the gun he doesn't have. POW! POW! POW! Fault? I can't assign any. Wait, yes I can. "Drop the gun!" when there was no gun puts the dept. and that officer specifically, in the wrong. Pay the vegetable and his family and stay the fuck away from me on any subsequent calls. A good man can make a bad call. Doesn't make it any less of a bad call.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:03:06 PM EDT
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Before you yell, "DropTheGun!" You better know what the fuck you're talking about. On the cop's side- My partner just introduced a gun into the equation. I have 1.5 seconds (make up a number, you hardasses.) To shoot or not shoot. On the citizens side (yeah, I said citizen) He has 1.3 seconds to realize that he is talkin' about his T-shirt, not the gun he doesn't have. POW! POW! POW! Fault? I can't assign any. Wait, yes I can. "Drop the gun!" when there was no gun puts the dept. and that officer specifically, in the wrong. Pay the vegetable and his family and stay the fuck away from me on any subsequent calls. A good man can make a bad call. Doesn't make it any less of a bad call.
So don't tell them to drop the gun if you think they have one? Fine by me. "Hands up!" "STOP!" You don't see the difference? Really? I'd still drink multiple beverages with you but I value your opinion.  For me. if my partner yelled "Gun" & I drilled an unarmed man I'd be beyond pissed. By the same token, if he didn't say anything & the dude shot me... We all see the shit-sandwich. Well, those without blinders on.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:09:54 PM EDT
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Balista bails on his own thread when things don't go his way, comes back a week later after finding an article with statements from the families lawyer.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:18:19 PM EDT
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"Hands up!" "STOP!" You don't see the difference? Really? I'd still drink multiple beverages with you but I value your opinion. For me. if my partner yelled "Gun" & I drilled an unarmed man I'd be beyond pissed. By the same token, if he didn't say anything & the dude shot me... We all see the shit-sandwich. Well, those without blinders on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Before you yell, "DropTheGun!" You better know what the fuck you're talking about. On the cop's side- My partner just introduced a gun into the equation. I have 1.5 seconds (make up a number, you hardasses.) To shoot or not shoot. On the citizens side (yeah, I said citizen) He has 1.3 seconds to realize that he is talkin' about his T-shirt, not the gun he doesn't have. POW! POW! POW! Fault? I can't assign any. Wait, yes I can. "Drop the gun!" when there was no gun puts the dept. and that officer specifically, in the wrong. Pay the vegetable and his family and stay the fuck away from me on any subsequent calls. A good man can make a bad call. Doesn't make it any less of a bad call.
So don't tell them to drop the gun if you think they have one? Fine by me. "Hands up!" "STOP!" You don't see the difference? Really? I'd still drink multiple beverages with you but I value your opinion. For me. if my partner yelled "Gun" & I drilled an unarmed man I'd be beyond pissed. By the same token, if he didn't say anything & the dude shot me... We all see the shit-sandwich. Well, those without blinders on. For sure bro, we're good. I can post up several videos though, of guys getting killed holding something that isn't a gun, and you'd probably say "good shoot".
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:44:08 PM EDT
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For sure bro, we're good. I can post up several videos though, of guys getting killed holding something that isn't a gun, and you'd probably say "good shoot".
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Before you yell, "DropTheGun!" You better know what the fuck you're talking about. On the cop's side- My partner just introduced a gun into the equation. I have 1.5 seconds (make up a number, you hardasses.) To shoot or not shoot. On the citizens side (yeah, I said citizen) He has 1.3 seconds to realize that he is talkin' about his T-shirt, not the gun he doesn't have. POW! POW! POW! Fault? I can't assign any. Wait, yes I can. "Drop the gun!" when there was no gun puts the dept. and that officer specifically, in the wrong. Pay the vegetable and his family and stay the fuck away from me on any subsequent calls. A good man can make a bad call. Doesn't make it any less of a bad call.
So don't tell them to drop the gun if you think they have one? Fine by me. "Hands up!" "STOP!" You don't see the difference? Really? I'd still drink multiple beverages with you but I value your opinion. For me. if my partner yelled "Gun" & I drilled an unarmed man I'd be beyond pissed. By the same token, if he didn't say anything & the dude shot me... We all see the shit-sandwich. Well, those without blinders on. For sure bro, we're good. I can post up several videos though, of guys getting killed holding something that isn't a gun, and you'd probably say "good shoot".
The only difference here is that we don't have video. Agreed. My point is that "Hands Up!" alleviates a shitload of confusion. I'll shoot the shit out of something from an Isoscoles stance or hip-retention but hands-up? I don't practice that. Words mean things and when those words mean life & death we better be on the same page. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:52:53 PM EDT
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Thin blue line wins again.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:54:03 PM EDT
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Agreed. My point is that "Hands Up!" alleviates a shitload of confusion. I'll shoot the shit out of something from an Isoscoles stance or hip-retention but hands-up? I don't practice that. Words mean things and when those words mean life & death we better be on the same page. Oh! I get you now. My fault. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:05:09 AM EDT
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Damn I missed a good thread......sounds like suicide by cop.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:03:03 PM EDT
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Balista bails on his own thread when things don't go his way, comes back a week later after finding an article with statements from the families lawyer. AND THE COPS LAWYER, guess you missed that part. On vacation, bro. Police are now apologizing for their 'mistake' in shooting the man. Their is no defense for the shooting, even the cop's lawyer admits it was a screw up. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:10:48 PM EDT
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Cops a little jumpy lately? Protect and Serve or I kill you for imaginary guns. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:13:53 PM EDT
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Friends, family show support for unarmed man shot by police in Los Feliz
Dozens of people gathered in Los Feliz on Saturday evening for a walk to show support for an unarmed man who was shot and critically wounded by Los Angeles police a week ago.
About 60 of Walter DeLeon's relatives, friends and co-workers slowly walked along Los Feliz Boulevard to the grassy patch where he was shot, carrying gray towels to represent what he was holding when an officer opened fire. A photograph of Walter DeLeon is displayed at a gathering of friends and family in Los Feliz. DeLeon, 48, remains in critical condition An attorney representing DeLeon's mother and sister said they had found dozens of witnesses who also contradicted the LAPD's account, but declined to detail what they said. http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-deleon-walk-20150628-story.html |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:45:43 PM EDT
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They're doing it again - putting out the lie and inventing a false symbol.
Towel = skittles and tea. Don't fall for the bullshit again. They do this same shit every time in a well planned and timed manner to falsely form first impressions and thoughts in peoples minds. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:04:18 PM EDT
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They're doing it again - putting out the lie and inventing a false symbol. Towel = skittles and tea. Don't fall for the bullshit again. They do this same shit every time in a well planned and timed manner to falsely form first impressions and thoughts in peoples minds. Just to be clear, which "they" shouldn't we believe? The LAPD that was the source in the original article, the shot guy's family that hasn't really said much, or the the officers' attorneys? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:12:04 PM EDT
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They're doing it again - putting out the lie and inventing a false symbol. Towel = skittles and tea. Don't fall for the bullshit again. They do this same shit every time in a well planned and timed manner to falsely form first impressions and thoughts in peoples minds. Just to be clear, which "they" shouldn't we believe? The LAPD that was the source in the original article, the shot guy's family that hasn't really said much, or the the officers' attorneys? The "victims" family and their attorney. It's the same scripted playbook over and over again that's why you know it's false. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:15:04 PM EDT
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Now everyone demanding apologies has to apologize!!!
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:18:07 PM EDT
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Now everyone demanding apologies has to apologize!!! Shhhhhhhh......the gloating will turn into butthurt. Murdoc's little post hunt was for naught. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:19:55 PM EDT
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The "victims" family and their attorney. It's the same scripted playbook over and over again that's why you know it's false. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They're doing it again - putting out the lie and inventing a false symbol. Towel = skittles and tea. Don't fall for the bullshit again. They do this same shit every time in a well planned and timed manner to falsely form first impressions and thoughts in peoples minds. Just to be clear, which "they" shouldn't we believe? The LAPD that was the source in the original article, the shot guy's family that hasn't really said much, or the the officers' attorneys? The "victims" family and their attorney. It's the same scripted playbook over and over again that's why you know it's false. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:58:25 PM EDT
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They're doing it again - putting out the lie and inventing a false symbol. Towel = skittles and tea. Don't fall for the bullshit again. They do this same shit every time in a well planned and timed manner to falsely form first impressions and thoughts in peoples minds. Just to be clear, which "they" shouldn't we believe? The LAPD that was the source in the original article, the shot guy's family that hasn't really said much, or the the officers' attorneys? The "victims" family and their attorney. It's the same scripted playbook over and over again that's why you know it's false. So the "Towel" isn't actually true? "This person extended an arm wrapped in a towel. The officer exited the vehicle and said, 'Drop the gun, drop the gun'" |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:07:14 PM EDT
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They're doing it again - putting out the lie and inventing a false symbol. Towel = skittles and tea. Don't fall for the bullshit again. They do this same shit every time in a well planned and timed manner to falsely form first impressions and thoughts in peoples minds. Just to be clear, which "they" shouldn't we believe? The LAPD that was the source in the original article, the shot guy's family that hasn't really said much, or the the officers' attorneys? The "victims" family and their attorney. It's the same scripted playbook over and over again that's why you know it's false. So the "Towel" isn't actually true? "This person extended an arm wrapped in a towel. The officer exited the vehicle and said, 'Drop the gun, drop the gun'" All part of the playbook |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:12:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:15:39 PM EDT
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In other words, a knee-jerk reaction. There wasn't enough information for any self-respecting person to make a judgement call. Thought I'd go back and do a recap but got tired after page 10. These comments were some of the more colorful ones. steveba4- Well, now the prosecution needs to do what they have to do...make sure those assholes spend the rest of their lives in prison. Kennyo1- In a situation like this the cops need to be jailed as criminals. Antero- He's right. You simply never know with a police interaction if you, your spouse, your kid or your dog is going to end up dead. FlyingIllini- The fucks need to prosecuted. We all know they won't be, however. ffcol- Too bad they did not follow the department protocol of not shooting an unarmed guy in the head. FiremanFrank- Holy shit. What a mess. LAPD sure has some high standards in their officers. Tohbii- dude was fucking murdered POLYTHENEPAM- American law enforcement: Building community support, one isolated incident at a time. Z_0- The cops were probably bullied on high school. The towel brought back old, disturbing memories of being snapped in the butt by towels in gym class. Who can blame them? verticalgain- Protecting innocents is lame, killing "bad guys" is awesome. mean_sartin- They fight a different war. Only men in the arena can ever understand it. Headless_T_Gunner- Edited...VA-gunnut sdboy- You could start by condemning them. I see plenty of leos here throwing out the wait for facts bullshit and then rolling into outright defending the bad ones but if the facts don't show in the officers favor then crickets. <--- This one I thought was funny. NWhiker- I wonder what would happen if I went around town with my ccw shooting people who I "thought" had a gun gotigers- One more thing.....this cop should do time. This was attempted murder. gotigers- If you think what these cops did is right, then you are what is wrong with cops. gotigers- The dead innocent civilian might try to stay alive. Yep. Cuff him he isnt a cop. He might hurt us. Dustrod- Man waves down cop for help Cop kills man Arfcops rejoice Dustrod- Used to have standards. Now i guess just throw on a polo, some oakleys and find the closest moving towel Every one of those posters ought to be ashamed of themselves and come back and apologize. Then why shouldn't you? You don't know what happened exactly either. ETA - I thought witness statements were worthless bs? Who took the witness statements, and wouldn't the PD have a vested interest in taking statements that back their officers? I guess they are OK when they work in your favor 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:19:16 PM EDT
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If I was in law enforcement, I'd seriously think about a career change. This shit isn't going to last, sooner or later the average Joe is going to want to stomp the JBT, and when that day happens it will be like the French Revolution.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was in law enforcement, I'd seriously think about a career change. This shit isn't going to last, sooner or later the average Joe is going to want to stomp the JBT, and when that day happens it will be like the French Revolution. Wishful thinking. The Average Joe has too much to lose. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:19:25 PM EDT
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If I was in law enforcement, I'd seriously think about a career change. This shit isn't going to last, sooner or later the average Joe is going to want to stomp the JBT, and when that day happens it will be like the French Revolution. Wishful thinking.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:31:55 PM EDT
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They're doing it again - putting out the lie and inventing a false symbol. Towel = skittles and tea. Don't fall for the bullshit again. They do this same shit every time in a well planned and timed manner to falsely form first impressions and thoughts in peoples minds. Just to be clear, which "they" shouldn't we believe? The LAPD that was the source in the original article, the shot guy's family that hasn't really said much, or the the officers' attorneys? The "victims" family and their attorney. It's the same scripted playbook over and over again that's why you know it's false. So the "Towel" isn't actually true? "This person extended an arm wrapped in a towel. The officer exited the vehicle and said, 'Drop the gun, drop the gun'" All part of the playbook Actually it is. Make you focus on an inanimate object instead of what the perp was actually doing. Advancing aggressively on police who have drawn Their weapons, with your clasped outstretched hands that are covered will get you shot. But no. The playbook is to repeat the lie that he was shot because he had a towel. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:21:18 PM EDT
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Actually it is. Make you focus on an inanimate object instead of what the perp was actually doing. Advancing aggressively on police who have drawn Their weapons, with your clasped outstretched hands that are covered will get you shot. But no. The playbook is to repeat the lie that he was shot because he had a towel. You better go correct the LAPD PAO and tell him to stop advancing the anti-police narrative. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:40:39 PM EDT
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Actually it is. Make you focus on an inanimate object instead of what the perp was actually doing. Advancing aggressively on police who have drawn Their weapons, with your clasped outstretched hands that are covered will get you shot. But no. The playbook is to repeat the lie that he was shot because he had a towel. You better go correct the LAPD PAO and tell him to stop advancing the anti-police narrative. I also know not to believe any of the initial information no matter where it comes from. Because now that statement is their skittles and tea. Whenever somebody says no justice no peace I know they are full of shit. It's a good way to sniff it out. Or we just want justice. Anytime you hear that bullshit alarms should be going off. |
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